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[Lilaeth]

Not at all - at least I can easily see my Shep having a major meltdown after everything that's happened!

[acidqueen5426]

I think that Shepard is numb to it all at this point. When it's all over--finally over--and she and Kaidan are finally able to "just sit down", it will all come back to hit her.

[Aoibheann]

frylock23 wrote...

Uirebhiril wrote...

Maybe I just get into the roleplay aspect too much of a game, but the idea of "I left the VS behind because they were whiny, why are they in my dreams" is a bit silly. Shepard wouldn't be standing there thinking, "God, I hate Ashley, she can burn and die," or, "Kaidan spent too much time whining about some girl from his past, he can chew on fusion." At that moment I'd expect it to be the LEAST thing Shepard considers when deciding whom it is will be left behind.

Though at this point I'm glad I left Ashley on Virmire, I hate seeing what she becomes in ME3. I actually liked her in the first game.

Yeah, but take a cruise around the forums and you'll see what I mean. The VS, whether we're talking Ashley or Kaidan, takes a lot of hate - Ash for being racist and Kaidan for being whiny.

I don't get either criticism myself, but there it is.

I don't get it either, of course the majority of the forums are populated by males under the age of 18 ( or so it seems lol.) Mass Effect (series) is after all mainly an RP game that is more about content and depth than lets kill things all over the place.... most ( if not all) of that crowd are the VS haters.

[wildannie]

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[yoshibb]

Aoibheann wrote...

frylock23 wrote...

Uirebhiril wrote...

Maybe I just get into the roleplay aspect too much of a game, but the idea of "I left the VS behind because they were whiny, why are they in my dreams" is a bit silly. Shepard wouldn't be standing there thinking, "God, I hate Ashley, she can burn and die," or, "Kaidan spent too much time whining about some girl from his past, he can chew on fusion." At that moment I'd expect it to be the LEAST thing Shepard considers when deciding whom it is will be left behind.

Though at this point I'm glad I left Ashley on Virmire, I hate seeing what she becomes in ME3. I actually liked her in the first game.

Yeah, but take a cruise around the forums and you'll see what I mean. The VS, whether we're talking Ashley or Kaidan, takes a lot of hate - Ash for being racist and Kaidan for being whiny.

I don't get either criticism myself, but there it is.

I don't get it either, of course the majority of the forums are populated by males under the age of 18 ( or so it seems lol.) Mass Effect (series) is after all mainly an RP game that is more about content and depth than lets kill things all over the place.... most ( if not all) of that crowd are the VS haters.

They are simply playing out their fantasies in video games. If someone doesn't agree with you in real life, you are forced to deal with it. If someone doesn't agree with you in a game, you can blow them up. There are people who cannot see these characters as nothing more than a group of pixels that you can control and who are only there to boost your ego.

Me personally, I connect so much that I see them as actual people. I relate them to real life and when they do argue with me, it simply makes them feel more real. I remember when I redid a level in medal of honor like 4 or 5 times cause I wanted these two nameless NPC soldiers to make it through with me. To most people they are just cannon fodder in the game, but to me they were two real guys. But I can understand if people can't connect like that, I'm pretty weird. Still the thought that people want to blow guys up simply because someone complains about a headache is pretty sick, don't you think?

[Aoibheann]

yoshibb wrote...

Aoibheann wrote...

frylock23 wrote...

Uirebhiril wrote...

Maybe I just get into the roleplay aspect too much of a game, but the idea of "I left the VS behind because they were whiny, why are they in my dreams" is a bit silly. Shepard wouldn't be standing there thinking, "God, I hate Ashley, she can burn and die," or, "Kaidan spent too much time whining about some girl from his past, he can chew on fusion." At that moment I'd expect it to be the LEAST thing Shepard considers when deciding whom it is will be left behind.

Though at this point I'm glad I left Ashley on Virmire, I hate seeing what she becomes in ME3. I actually liked her in the first game.

Yeah, but take a cruise around the forums and you'll see what I mean. The VS, whether we're talking Ashley or Kaidan, takes a lot of hate - Ash for being racist and Kaidan for being whiny.

I don't get either criticism myself, but there it is.

I don't get it either, of course the majority of the forums are populated by males under the age of 18 ( or so it seems lol.) Mass Effect (series) is after all mainly an RP game that is more about content and depth than lets kill things all over the place.... most ( if not all) of that crowd are the VS haters.

They are simply playing out their fantasies in video games. If someone doesn't agree with you in real life, you are forced to deal with it. If someone doesn't agree with you in a game, you can blow them up. There are people who cannot see these characters as nothing more than a group of pixels that you can control and who are only there to boost your ego.

Me personally, I connect so much that I see them as actual people. I relate them to real life and when they do argue with me, it simply makes them feel more real. I remember when I redid a level in medal of honor like 4 or 5 times cause I wanted these two nameless NPC soldiers to make it through with me. To most people they are just cannon fodder in the game, but to me they were two real guys. But I can understand if people can't connect like that, I'm pretty weird. Still the thought that people want to blow guys up simply because someone complains about a headache is pretty sick, don't you think?

Yeah i agree. To me though, the characters are more than just pixels and i do care about them ( maybe not as much as real people, but the care/investment is still there.) That's kind of why i can't go too renagade ... i tend to go how i'd act/react to them as if they were real and the choices really mattered.  

And it is sick.

[sesheta255]

frylock23 wrote...

Uirebhiril wrote...

Maybe I just get into the roleplay aspect too much of a game, but the idea of "I left the VS behind because they were whiny, why are they in my dreams" is a bit silly. Shepard wouldn't be standing there thinking, "God, I hate Ashley, she can burn and die," or, "Kaidan spent too much time whining about some girl from his past, he can chew on fusion." At that moment I'd expect it to be the LEAST thing Shepard considers when deciding whom it is will be left behind.

Though at this point I'm glad I left Ashley on Virmire, I hate seeing what she becomes in ME3. I actually liked her in the first game.

Yeah, but take a cruise around the forums and you'll see what I mean. The VS, whether we're talking Ashley or Kaidan, takes a lot of hate - Ash for being racist and Kaidan for being whiny.

I don't get either criticism myself, but there it is.

Not just for being whiny/Carth or racist.  Also because the VS is human and not a cool alien who didn't fall down and kiss Shepard's feet then throw off their responsibilities to follow Shep blindly. 

[Uilleand]

sesheta255 wrote...

Not just for being whiny/Carth or racist.  Also because the VS is human and not a cool alien who didn't fall down and kiss Shepard's feet then throw off their responsibilities to follow Shep blindly. 

**sheepish wave** ... ... I am so late to this discussion, considering I played ME1 on release date and don't have a single Shep  in six who isn't loyal to Kaidan >.>After ME2, my friend ranted about the Horizon encounter and effectively told Kaidan to 'pound sand' and leaped whole-heartedly into the Garrus romance. But for me, I totally understood it. My Shep loathes Cerberus and has done since that first encounter with the thresher maw bait in ME1. Working with them turned her stomach and Kaidan not trusting that made total sense to her. ...that he has his own agenda, his own set of morals and loyalties is what makes him so appealing to me...

[PhoenixDove1]

acidqueen5426 wrote...

I think that Shepard is numb to it all at this point. When it's all over--finally over--and she and Kaidan are finally able to "just sit down", it will all come back to hit her.

I think this, and I don't think it would be out of character, from the dreams shep has been having, it seems right to me.  Maybe just enough of a breakdown that Kaidan is the only thing that would help

Modifié par PhoenixDove1, 12 avril 2012 - 06:11 .

[Ainyan42]

PhoenixDove1 wrote...

acidqueen5426 wrote...

I think that Shepard is numb to it all at this point. When it's all over--finally over--and she and Kaidan are finally able to "just sit down", it will all come back to hit her.

I think this, and I don't think it would be out of character, from the dreams shep has been having, it seems right to me.  Maybe just enough of a breakdown that Kaidan is the only thing that would help

Well, this would take place before the end - This story is the one I'm working on. The breakdown fits the general story - and let's be honest, Shepard's under so much stress I'm shocked she doesn't actually break down in game more than just that brief scene after Thessia. But. I just hesitate.

[legbamel]

I think a locker scene would be completely appropriate. I have included such a breakdown in every ME2 plot after the dead Reaper mission because it seems to me she'd be utterly freaked out by the attempted indoctrination. Paragon or renegade or somewhere in between, Shepard's on top of things. I think the losss of control would make her crazy more than one particular event.

[*Rogue*]

I did feel a little let down that nobody, other than Joker, even attempted to make Shepard feel better when she was so obviously disturbed by Thessia.  This is why I love headcanon more than actual canon at times.  My Shep would have turned to Kaidan for support, to my mind he's the yin to her yang, always there as a dependable shoulder to lean on that's why I don't think she would ever break down, she'd always have a shoulder to lean on for support, even though they won't show us that in the game (too expensive?).

I've given in and gone into ME1, I'm justifying by telling myself it's for missing achievements, and not to see more of Kaidan

Also, I don't get the hate for either of the VS, I always save Kaidan, it's true but my Sheploo saved Ash on one playthrough and I don't find her annoying in the slightest, I actually like the character.  If there was a way to save both Ash and Kaidan I'd happily sacrifice Liara though

Modifié par sheena smith, 12 avril 2012 - 07:51 .

[Prismelf45]

So self-advertising and all, I know some people were looking for fanfics to read...I've started a fic based around random dabbles and thoughts.  It is femshep and Kaidan centric.  Helpful critiques are appreciated!  Happy Reading...oh, I do try and update on a regular basis.  I have at least three chapters ready to post.  : )

Mass Effect: Milieu

[frylock23]

sheena smith wrote...

I did feel a little let down that nobody, other than Joker, even attempted to make Shepard feel better when she was so obviously disturbed by Thessia.  This is why I love headcanon more than actual canon at times.  My Shep would have turned to Kaidan for support, to my mind he's the yin to her yang, always there as a dependable shoulder to lean on that's why I don't think she would ever break down, she'd always have a shoulder to lean on for support, even though they won't show us that in the game (too expensive?).

I've given in and gone into ME1, I'm justifying by telling myself it's for missing achievements, and not to see more of Kaidan

Also, I don't get the hate for either of the VS, I always save Kaidan, it's true but my Sheploo saved Ash on one playthrough and I don't find her annoying in the slightest, I actually like the character.  If there was a way to save both Ash and Kaidan I'd happily sacrifice Liara though

Yeah, this. My Sheps have Kaidan there supporting them even though we don't ever see it in game. It's the only thing that makes sense and explains how she makes it through without completely cracking up.

In my mind, she was awfully close to losing it in ME2, but Garrus did his level best to fill in which explains how close the are in ME3. It always annoyed me that we spend all that time chasing around solving everyone else's personal angsty problems in ME2, but everyone seems to ignore Shep's own personal state of mind. You'd think that if you were going to try to pull of a major suicide mission that's so tough that everyone has to be able to tackle it with absolute clarity of mind, the one person you'd want to make sure has a clear head and heart is your commander ... but NO, we just make sure she gets more personal problems heaped on her aside from the little issue of dying and coming back to life after two years ...

[PhoenixDove1]

Ainyan42 wrote...

PhoenixDove1 wrote...

acidqueen5426 wrote...

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Well, this would take place before the end - This story is the one I'm working on. The breakdown fits the general story - and let's be honest, Shepard's under so much stress I'm shocked she doesn't actually break down in game more than just that brief scene after Thessia. But. I just hesitate.

I think it would be well in character for her to freak out a little, when she has down time, how can it not come rushing back that the galazy's survival rests on her shoulders?  I think you could flesh that out and make it believable.  In ME1 I can see not breaking down but ME2 and then the events between ME2 and then all the crap she has to do in ME3.  I think the level of the breakdown is where you'll want to worry about.  Definitely not just one line of how hard everything is, but not so much of  breakdown that Kaidan would have to do the traditional 'slap' out of it.  I also think this would be a great way for Shepard and Kaidan to start talking about more than the mission, having her be vulnerable like that would be good for both of them.  Maybe he would open up about something else in his past or be goofy funny to make her feel better.  Just thinking out loud   Will be reading what you've got so far!

[MissLiya]

I just saw it on devart... and run over here to show you all... now i can die 
in peace *squeeeeeee* *dead*
Thank you,  Gaddes!!! 

source

Modifié par MissLiya, 12 avril 2012 - 08:26 .

[acidqueen5426]

*happysigh*

[*Rogue*]

I'm just going to leave this page open for a while now, that pic is soooo good.

[acidqueen5426]

sheena smith wrote...

I'm just going to leave this page open for a while now, that pic is soooo good.

Me too! I'm having kind of a craptacular day, so I could use a handsome man smiling at me.

Modifié par acidqueen5426, 12 avril 2012 - 08:36 .

[Ainyan42]

PhoenixDove1 wrote...

Ainyan42 wrote...

PhoenixDove1 wrote...

acidqueen5426 wrote...

snip.

snip

Well, this would take place before the end - This story is the one I'm working on. The breakdown fits the general story - and let's be honest, Shepard's under so much stress I'm shocked she doesn't actually break down in game more than just that brief scene after Thessia. But. I just hesitate.

I think it would be well in character for her to freak out a little, when she has down time, how can it not come rushing back that the galazy's survival rests on her shoulders?  I think you could flesh that out and make it believable.  In ME1 I can see not breaking down but ME2 and then the events between ME2 and then all the crap she has to do in ME3.  I think the level of the breakdown is where you'll want to worry about.  Definitely not just one line of how hard everything is, but not so much of  breakdown that Kaidan would have to do the traditional 'slap' out of it.  I also think this would be a great way for Shepard and Kaidan to start talking about more than the mission, having her be vulnerable like that would be good for both of them.  Maybe he would open up about something else in his past or be goofy funny to make her feel better.  Just thinking out loud   Will be reading what you've got so far!

Well, I went ahead and finished that chapter and uploaded it. I know how it's going to end now - it actually made clear a lot of things I was still murky on. I just hope it's not too terribly depressing. XD

Also, smiling Kaidan pic lifts my spirits. Thank you for posting that, MissLiya!

[Gaddes]

MissLiya wrote...

I just saw it on devart... and run over here to show you all... now i can die 
in peace *squeeeeeee* *dead*
Thank you,  Gaddes!!! 

source

Haha that was fast!  I'm glad you liked it ^^

[PhoenixDove1]

Ainyan42 wrote...

Well, I went ahead and finished that chapter and uploaded it. I know how it's going to end now - it actually made clear a lot of things I was still murky on. I just hope it's not too terribly depressing. XD

Also, smiling Kaidan pic lifts my spirits. Thank you for posting that, MissLiya!

You're freaking good!  I'm dying to know what happens next

Edit:  Probably should have prefaced that with a 'I've just finished reading the 3 chapters you have, lol.  And yes am loving the pcitures, wish I could draw!  Has anyone posted a picture of Kaidan w/ femshep and kids? Adopted or their own. 

Modifié par PhoenixDove1, 12 avril 2012 - 08:54 .

[MissLiya]

Gaddes wrote...

Haha that was fast!  I'm glad you liked it ^^

You literally made my night:wub: 
I love you 

[PhoenixDove1]

Prismelf45 wrote...

So self-advertising and all, I know some people were looking for fanfics to read...I've started a fic based around random dabbles and thoughts.  It is femshep and Kaidan centric.  Helpful critiques are appreciated!  Happy Reading...oh, I do try and update on a regular basis.  I have at least three chapters ready to post.  : )

Mass Effect: Milieu

This is really good, do you have more?