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[Phoenix NL]

Aslanasadi wrote...

legbamel wrote...

?I knew BioWare I expected Shepard to die, because wanted to end her story. I was fine with that but I never expected her to die alone. As much as I love Anderson, it should have been Kaidan up on the Citadel with her. How much more wrenching would it have been to have TIM force you to shoot your LI?

For me, Shep has filfilled her purpose. As Garrus said, she was born. To do this. I never saw her retiring or having babies. She's too young to quit and, really, everything else would be so anticlimactic. But to tear away every good thing in her life and then shove the best of them onto some random planet smacks us right in the face after the investment we've all made in our Shepards.

What do I want to see in the ending? Shepard and Kaidan (or LI of your choice) deciding the fate of the galaxy together. Whether they live or die is up to BioWare.

To be honest I never have expected that Shepard has to die. I always thought it might be one of the options you will get. But no, that she/he has to die never crossed my mind. I wanted her to do the job and I admit I was thinking that she might retire, maybe would stay with the Alliance. Why not?
I would have liked one ending my Shepard surviving and reunited with Kaidan. That would have been my personal happy end.

Do we know what will happen in their future? That's the part we can use our imagination ...In my imagination or head canon she survived anyways (that's also what my guide says) and is reunited with Kaidan and in my dream they have a maybe not always easy but a happy future together.

Same here, I always thought that there would be a number of different outcomes ranging from Shep dying to s/he living and reuniting with their LI and crew. I don't think I ever saw Shepard fully retiring, at least not my one, but maybe taking a break from active duty or maybe taking on more of a leadership/mentoring role within the Alliance. They managed it for DA:O so I don't see why it couldn't be done for ME3.

[leighzard]

@Kolotosa, Aslanasadi & Madlily - Agreed. I thought there was a possibility Shepard would die, and that to live Shepard would have to make some kind of a sacrifice. I figured there would be a cost to living happily ever after with Kaidan, but not that the option wouldn't exist. Because it should.

Also I *love* Kaidan's expression in ME1 when he discovers Shepard is alive. Melt.

[Ainyan42]

Phoenix NL wrote...

Aslanasadi wrote...

legbamel wrote...

?I knew BioWare I expected Shepard to die, because wanted to end her story. I was fine with that but I never expected her to die alone. As much as I love Anderson, it should have been Kaidan up on the Citadel with her. How much more wrenching would it have been to have TIM force you to shoot your LI?

For me, Shep has filfilled her purpose. As Garrus said, she was born. To do this. I never saw her retiring or having babies. She's too young to quit and, really, everything else would be so anticlimactic. But to tear away every good thing in her life and then shove the best of them onto some random planet smacks us right in the face after the investment we've all made in our Shepards.

What do I want to see in the ending? Shepard and Kaidan (or LI of your choice) deciding the fate of the galaxy together. Whether they live or die is up to BioWare.

To be honest I never have expected that Shepard has to die. I always thought it might be one of the options you will get. But no, that she/he has to die never crossed my mind. I wanted her to do the job and I admit I was thinking that she might retire, maybe would stay with the Alliance. Why not?
I would have liked one ending my Shepard surviving and reunited with Kaidan. That would have been my personal happy end.

Do we know what will happen in their future? That's the part we can use our imagination ...In my imagination or head canon she survived anyways (that's also what my guide says) and is reunited with Kaidan and in my dream they have a maybe not always easy but a happy future together.

Same here, I always thought that there would be a number of different outcomes ranging from Shep dying to s/he living and reuniting with their LI and crew. I don't think I ever saw Shepard fully retiring, at least not my one, but maybe taking a break from active duty or maybe taking on more of a leadership/mentoring role within the Alliance. They managed it for DA:O so I don't see why it couldn't be done for ME3.

'Had to die' is stupid, no offense. There was never any reason why she 'had to die'. Could die - yes, that should always be an option. But given that three of the main themes of Mass Effect are 'Hope', 'Persevering against impossible odds', and 'Choice', there is absolutely no reason why players who completed the maximum amount of objectives and made the right choices (Paragon or Renegade) couldn't see an ending where Shepard lived (WITH his/her LI), the Reaper threat was eliminated (even if it was just long enough that the galaxy could rebuild and prepare for their return), and the galaxy was united in the effort to rebuild.

I don't understand the hate for happy endings. Even DA:O - which was far darker in theme than Mass Effect - had the option for a happy ending. Not everything was sunshine and roses with it, either, considering the fact that to get that happy ending, you had to pretty much make a deal with the devil (and even worse, if you were the female Warden with Alistair as your LI, you basically got to w**** him out) that hints at having helped to create what is, in essence, an Anti-Christ for the future. Should Shepard have had to make a deeply personal sacrifice to ensure the future of herself and her companions? Sure. Should there have been an option for her to sacrifice herself for the greater good? Absolutely. 

But I think it's just sheer cruelty to build up not one, but three games in which your character develops intense relationships with certain characters only to have it all boil down to: Pick your poison, and whichever you pick, you'll die and your crew is stranded in the middle of nowhere. (Or worse, you'll live, trapped in rubble, with your crew and your LI stranded light-years away). And even worse, it's criminally asinine (and terminally lazy) to expect people to take a few short, disjointed cut-scenes and 'develop your own ending' based on 'speculation from everyone'. Why bother? In the most logical conclusion given the evidence of the previous games, everyone dies anyway. 

[Phoenix NL]

Ainyan42 wrote...

Phoenix NL wrote...

Aslanasadi wrote...

legbamel wrote...

?I knew BioWare I expected Shepard to die, because wanted to end her story. I was fine with that but I never expected her to die alone. As much as I love Anderson, it should have been Kaidan up on the Citadel with her. How much more wrenching would it have been to have TIM force you to shoot your LI?

For me, Shep has filfilled her purpose. As Garrus said, she was born. To do this. I never saw her retiring or having babies. She's too young to quit and, really, everything else would be so anticlimactic. But to tear away every good thing in her life and then shove the best of them onto some random planet smacks us right in the face after the investment we've all made in our Shepards.

What do I want to see in the ending? Shepard and Kaidan (or LI of your choice) deciding the fate of the galaxy together. Whether they live or die is up to BioWare.

To be honest I never have expected that Shepard has to die. I always thought it might be one of the options you will get. But no, that she/he has to die never crossed my mind. I wanted her to do the job and I admit I was thinking that she might retire, maybe would stay with the Alliance. Why not?
I would have liked one ending my Shepard surviving and reunited with Kaidan. That would have been my personal happy end.

Do we know what will happen in their future? That's the part we can use our imagination ...In my imagination or head canon she survived anyways (that's also what my guide says) and is reunited with Kaidan and in my dream they have a maybe not always easy but a happy future together.

Same here, I always thought that there would be a number of different outcomes ranging from Shep dying to s/he living and reuniting with their LI and crew. I don't think I ever saw Shepard fully retiring, at least not my one, but maybe taking a break from active duty or maybe taking on more of a leadership/mentoring role within the Alliance. They managed it for DA:O so I don't see why it couldn't be done for ME3.

'Had to die' is stupid, no offense. There was never any reason why she 'had to die'. Could die - yes, that should always be an option. But given that three of the main themes of Mass Effect are 'Hope', 'Persevering against impossible odds', and 'Choice', there is absolutely no reason why players who completed the maximum amount of objectives and made the right choices (Paragon or Renegade) couldn't see an ending where Shepard lived (WITH his/her LI), the Reaper threat was eliminated (even if it was just long enough that the galaxy could rebuild and prepare for their return), and the galaxy was united in the effort to rebuild.

I don't understand the hate for happy endings. Even DA:O - which was far darker in theme than Mass Effect - had the option for a happy ending. Not everything was sunshine and roses with it, either, considering the fact that to get that happy ending, you had to pretty much make a deal with the devil (and even worse, if you were the female Warden with Alistair as your LI, you basically got to w**** him out) that hints at having helped to create what is, in essence, an Anti-Christ for the future. Should Shepard have had to make a deeply personal sacrifice to ensure the future of herself and her companions? Sure. Should there have been an option for her to sacrifice herself for the greater good? Absolutely. 

But I think it's just sheer cruelty to build up not one, but three games in which your character develops intense relationships with certain characters only to have it all boil down to: Pick your poison, and whichever you pick, you'll die and your crew is stranded in the middle of nowhere. (Or worse, you'll live, trapped in rubble, with your crew and your LI stranded light-years away). And even worse, it's criminally asinine (and terminally lazy) to expect people to take a few short, disjointed cut-scenes and 'develop your own ending' based on 'speculation from everyone'. Why bother? In the most logical conclusion given the evidence of the previous games, everyone dies anyway. 

Completely agree with you!

[Kaidan Fan]

I never felt that Shepard would have to die, but that it might be one outcome.  That our ems or being paragon/renegade would have some influence on the ending.  That there would be options.  I have always said that I think the ending of ME1 is the best ever.  You're made to think that you died, but then you come running up through the rubble and you're alive.  That was the best feeling ever.  THAT felt like a win.  Her crooked lil grin.  Kaidan smiling up at her coming out of the rubble.  Yeah, that's the end I wanted for my Shepard.

[ShallowlLife9871]

Ainyan42 wrote...

Phoenix NL wrote...

Aslanasadi wrote...

legbamel wrote...

?I knew BioWare I expected Shepard to die, because wanted to end her story. I was fine with that but I never expected her to die alone. As much as I love Anderson, it should have been Kaidan up on the Citadel with her. How much more wrenching would it have been to have TIM force you to shoot your LI?

For me, Shep has filfilled her purpose. As Garrus said, she was born. To do this. I never saw her retiring or having babies. She's too young to quit and, really, everything else would be so anticlimactic. But to tear away every good thing in her life and then shove the best of them onto some random planet smacks us right in the face after the investment we've all made in our Shepards.

What do I want to see in the ending? Shepard and Kaidan (or LI of your choice) deciding the fate of the galaxy together. Whether they live or die is up to BioWare.

snip a dey do da...

Same here, I always thought that there would be a number of different outcomes ranging from Shep dying to s/he living and reuniting with their LI and crew. I don't think I ever saw Shepard fully retiring, at least not my one, but maybe taking a break from active duty or maybe taking on more of a leadership/mentoring role within the Alliance. They managed it for DA:O so I don't see why it couldn't be done for ME3.

'Had to die' is stupid, no offense. There was never any reason why she 'had to die'. Could die - yes, that should always be an option. But given that three of the main themes of Mass Effect are 'Hope', 'Persevering against impossible odds', and 'Choice', there is absolutely no reason why players who completed the maximum amount of objectives and made the right choices (Paragon or Renegade) couldn't see an ending where Shepard lived (WITH his/her LI), the Reaper threat was eliminated (even if it was just long enough that the galaxy could rebuild and prepare for their return), and the galaxy was united in the effort to rebuild.

I don't understand the hate for happy endings. Even DA:O - which was far darker in theme than Mass Effect - had the option for a happy ending. Not everything was sunshine and roses with it, either, considering the fact that to get that happy ending, you had to pretty much make a deal with the devil (and even worse, if you were the female Warden with Alistair as your LI, you basically got to w**** him out) that hints at having helped to create what is, in essence, an Anti-Christ for the future. Should Shepard have had to make a deeply personal sacrifice to ensure the future of herself and her companions? Sure. Should there have been an option for her to sacrifice herself for the greater good? Absolutely. 

But I think it's just sheer cruelty to build up not one, but three games in which your character develops intense relationships with certain characters only to have it all boil down to: Pick your poison, and whichever you pick, you'll die and your crew is stranded in the middle of nowhere. (Or worse, you'll live, trapped in rubble, with your crew and your LI stranded light-years away). And even worse, it's criminally asinine (and terminally lazy) to expect people to take a few short, disjointed cut-scenes and 'develop your own ending' based on 'speculation from everyone'. Why bother? In the most logical conclusion given the evidence of the previous games, everyone dies anyway. 

^^ this!

i have 2 enddings in my head  for my sheps baside on haveing the OPPTION to  have shep scarifce her self. 
one: Shep realise's  the stupid star child isn't the Catlistc.. it was the cyper she got on Feros. so she jumps into the beam, knowing it will kill her, so the catilisc is  now part of the crucible and POW no reapers...

my 2nd is a bit more far fetched. Shep and Liara both got mortly wonded in the run to beam. Javick was the one to go though and hit the all might reaper off switch. Liara, Barely awake, activevates a sos signal on her omi tool and dies, [ sorry liara fans]  a group,  the crew find Shep  just in time and get her medical help. she lives on to happy forfilled life with Kaidan.

i also had an idea about the Hertic Program form ME2. .. but that seamd stupid and unplauseable..

[madlily]

ShallowlLife9871 wrote...

Ainyan42 wrote...

Phoenix NL wrote...

Aslanasadi wrote...

legbamel wrote...

?I knew BioWare I expected Shepard to die, because wanted to end her story. I was fine with that but I never expected her to die alone. As much as I love Anderson, it should have been Kaidan up on the Citadel with her. How much more wrenching would it have been to have TIM force you to shoot your LI?

For me, Shep has filfilled her purpose. As Garrus said, she was born. To do this. I never saw her retiring or having babies. She's too young to quit and, really, everything else would be so anticlimactic. But to tear away every good thing in her life and then shove the best of them onto some random planet smacks us right in the face after the investment we've all made in our Shepards.

What do I want to see in the ending? Shepard and Kaidan (or LI of your choice) deciding the fate of the galaxy together. Whether they live or die is up to BioWare.

snip a dey do da...

Same here, I always thought that there would be a number of different outcomes ranging from Shep dying to s/he living and reuniting with their LI and crew. I don't think I ever saw Shepard fully retiring, at least not my one, but maybe taking a break from active duty or maybe taking on more of a leadership/mentoring role within the Alliance. They managed it for DA:O so I don't see why it couldn't be done for ME3.

'Had to die' is stupid, no offense. There was never any reason why she 'had to die'. Could die - yes, that should always be an option. But given that three of the main themes of Mass Effect are 'Hope', 'Persevering against impossible odds', and 'Choice', there is absolutely no reason why players who completed the maximum amount of objectives and made the right choices (Paragon or Renegade) couldn't see an ending where Shepard lived (WITH his/her LI), the Reaper threat was eliminated (even if it was just long enough that the galaxy could rebuild and prepare for their return), and the galaxy was united in the effort to rebuild.

I don't understand the hate for happy endings. Even DA:O - which was far darker in theme than Mass Effect - had the option for a happy ending. Not everything was sunshine and roses with it, either, considering the fact that to get that happy ending, you had to pretty much make a deal with the devil (and even worse, if you were the female Warden with Alistair as your LI, you basically got to w**** him out) that hints at having helped to create what is, in essence, an Anti-Christ for the future. Should Shepard have had to make a deeply personal sacrifice to ensure the future of herself and her companions? Sure. Should there have been an option for her to sacrifice herself for the greater good? Absolutely. 

But I think it's just sheer cruelty to build up not one, but three games in which your character develops intense relationships with certain characters only to have it all boil down to: Pick your poison, and whichever you pick, you'll die and your crew is stranded in the middle of nowhere. (Or worse, you'll live, trapped in rubble, with your crew and your LI stranded light-years away). And even worse, it's criminally asinine (and terminally lazy) to expect people to take a few short, disjointed cut-scenes and 'develop your own ending' based on 'speculation from everyone'. Why bother? In the most logical conclusion given the evidence of the previous games, everyone dies anyway. 

^^ this!

i have 2 enddings in my head  for my sheps baside on haveing the OPPTION to  have shep scarifce her self. 
one: Shep realise's  the stupid star child isn't the Catlistc.. it was the cyper she got on Feros. so she jumps into the beam, knowing it will kill her, so the catilisc is  now part of the crucible and POW no reapers...

my 2nd is a bit more far fetched. Shep and Liara both got mortly wonded in the run to beam. Javick was the one to go though and hit the all might reaper off switch. Liara, Barely awake, activevates a sos signal on her omi tool and dies, [ sorry liara fans]  a group,  the crew find Shep  just in time and get her medical help. she lives on to happy forfilled life with Kaidan.

i also had an idea about the Hertic Program form ME2. .. but that seamd stupid and unplauseable..

I swear.. if Shepard hadve poked her head out of the Normandy at the end.. monster plot holes withstanding, people would have rejoiced... no one wouldve cared if it didnt make sense, regardless of what they said.. for the 'good/high ems/destroy' ending...

in some ways it restores my faith that there are others out there who are romantics

[ShallowlLife9871]

[quote]madlily wrote...

[quote]ShallowlLife9871 wrote...

[quote]Ainyan42 wrote...

[quote]Phoenix NL wrote...

[quote]Aslanasadi wrote...

[quote]legbamel wrote...

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snip a dey do da...

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I swear.. if Shepard hadve poked her head out of the Normandy at the end.. monster plot holes withstanding, people would have rejoiced... no one wouldve cared if it didnt make sense, regardless of what they said.. for the 'good/high ems/destroy' ending...

in some ways it restores my faith that there are others out there who are romantics

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 the moment i read that.. this popped into my head...

#normandy crash sight#

Garrus Kaidan and Joker look off into the sunset...suddenly

Shepard: HI GUYS!
Joker:AAAHHH [ falls over form shock}
Garrus :blink:
Kaidan : WTF!!!!

[madlily]

ShallowlLife9871 wrote...

madlily wrote...


I swear.. if Shepard hadve poked her head out of the Normandy at the end.. monster plot holes withstanding, people would have rejoiced... no one wouldve cared if it didnt make sense, regardless of what they said.. for the 'good/high ems/destroy' ending...

in some ways it restores my faith that there are others out there who are romantics

 the moment i read that.. this popped into my head...

#normandy crash sight#

Garrus Kaidan and Joker look off into the sunset...suddenly

Shepard: HI GUYS!
Joker:AAAHHH [ falls over form shock}
Garrus 
Kaidan : WTF!!!!

hehe but in all seriousness... half the community wouldve gone.. woot... even whilst scratching their heads as to how she made it onto the normandy and such... In my head cannon..she's in the sick bay which is why kaidan is smiling when they crash land.. well smirking cause he know's she's there

[ShallowlLife9871]

madlily wrote...

ShallowlLife9871 wrote...

madlily wrote...


I swear.. if Shepard hadve poked her head out of the Normandy at the end.. monster plot holes withstanding, people would have rejoiced... no one wouldve cared if it didnt make sense, regardless of what they said.. for the 'good/high ems/destroy' ending...

in some ways it restores my faith that there are others out there who are romantics

 the moment i read that.. this popped into my head...

#normandy crash sight#

Garrus Kaidan and Joker look off into the sunset...suddenly

Shepard: HI GUYS!
Joker:AAAHHH [ falls over form shock}
Garrus 
Kaidan : WTF!!!!

hehe but in all seriousness... half the community wouldve gone.. woot... even whilst scratching their heads as to how she made it onto the normandy and such... In my head cannon..she's in the sick bay which is why kaidan is smiling when they crash land.. well smirking cause he know's she's there

true. i would have done a chair dance if Shep lived... and i like your idea of Shep being in the sick bay. makes sense. 


 

[LadyofRivendell]

I've installed my own game-spanning headcanon into my brain already, which really helps with the bitterness of what we've got.

Right from the start, I knew I'd have to work my butt off to keep everyone alive, and, if need be, I was willing to sacrifice anyone and anything to keep Shepard and Kaidan alive and together. Even Earth. I went in to ME3 with three goals:
- Keep Shepard alive
- Keep Kaidan alive
- Don't let anything happen to the Normandy

...Ha. I was expecting there to be a multitude of endings, much like DA:O, which would include Shepard dying/living, sacrificing/saving Earth, completely failing/coming out the biggest damn heroes in the Galaxy, etc. I figured that, again, like Origins, the "happiest" ending would come at a price, and that was something I was willing to pay. But nope.

After the end, what I wanted was just for Kaidan and Shepard to be together. In my headcanon, they're both continuing their Alliance and Spectre services together on the Normandy, doing what they can to help the Galaxy rebound and rebuild. They'll get married along the way, maybe popping out a kid and raising it on the Normandy (much like Spacer Shep).

Yes, Bioware, I reject your endings and substitute my own.

[LastFadingSmile]

LadyofRivendell wrote...

I've installed my own game-spanning headcanon into my brain already, which really helps with the bitterness of what we've got.

Right from the start, I knew I'd have to work my butt off to keep everyone alive, and, if need be, I was willing to sacrifice anyone and anything to keep Shepard and Kaidan alive and together. Even Earth. I went in to ME3 with three goals:
- Keep Shepard alive
- Keep Kaidan alive
- Don't let anything happen to the Normandy

...Ha. I was expecting there to be a multitude of endings, much like DA:O, which would include Shepard dying/living, sacrificing/saving Earth, completely failing/coming out the biggest damn heroes in the Galaxy, etc. I figured that, again, like Origins, the "happiest" ending would come at a price, and that was something I was willing to pay. But nope.

After the end, what I wanted was just for Kaidan and Shepard to be together. In my headcanon, they're both continuing their Alliance and Spectre services together on the Normandy, doing what they can to help the Galaxy rebound and rebuild. They'll get married along the way, maybe popping out a kid and raising it on the Normandy (much like Spacer Shep).

Yes, Bioware, I reject your endings and substitute my own.

Agree with you 100%, and I think that's what surprised me the most about how limited the endings are. They had a great template to draw from in DA:O in terms of dealing with multi-pathed gameplay to deliver satisfying endings based on choices. And hell, David Gaider makes no bones about his LOVE of tormenting the fanbase with truly bittersweet endings. Seems like such a wasted opportunity that they didn't draw on that for inspiration; or hell, within their own franchise, from ME2's suicide mission.


Although maybe it's a good thing they didn't go there, 'cause if the plot twist had been that I had to make Kaidan brainmeld with Liara to create a Reaper-slaying super baby... Well, she'd better duck, that's all I'm saying.  

Modifié par Kolotosa, 20 avril 2012 - 04:57 .

[Graceyn]

Next chapter is up!:  If It Meant Living-52: Not Today / Alt. DA Link.  No direct Kaidan this time (they do talk about him), but tons of Garrus and some fun Vega too.  Hope you enjoy .

But please, have some very serious Kaidan:

[leighzard]

LadyofRivendell wrote...

...Ha. I was expecting there to be a multitude of endings, much like DA:O, which would include Shepard dying/living, sacrificing/saving Earth, completely failing/coming out the biggest damn heroes in the Galaxy, etc. I figured that, again, like Origins, the "happiest" ending would come at a price, and that was something I was willing to pay. But nope.

Yes, Bioware, I reject your endings and substitute my own.

HA!  MythBusters.

And also that was exactly what I had expected too.   Would that really be so hard to do?!

[madlily]

LadyofRivendell wrote...

I've installed my own game-spanning headcanon into my brain already, which really helps with the bitterness of what we've got.

Right from the start, I knew I'd have to work my butt off to keep everyone alive, and, if need be, I was willing to sacrifice anyone and anything to keep Shepard and Kaidan alive and together. Even Earth. I went in to ME3 with three goals:
- Keep Shepard alive
- Keep Kaidan alive
- Don't let anything happen to the Normandy

...Ha. I was expecting there to be a multitude of endings, much like DA:O, which would include Shepard dying/living, sacrificing/saving Earth, completely failing/coming out the biggest damn heroes in the Galaxy, etc. I figured that, again, like Origins, the "happiest" ending would come at a price, and that was something I was willing to pay. But nope.

After the end, what I wanted was just for Kaidan and Shepard to be together. In my headcanon, they're both continuing their Alliance and Spectre services together on the Normandy, doing what they can to help the Galaxy rebound and rebuild. They'll get married along the way, maybe popping out a kid and raising it on the Normandy (much like Spacer Shep).

Yes, Bioware, I reject your endings and substitute my own.

heh.. if it had meant sacrifcing Earth to have Kaidan/Shepard and the Normandy live/survive.. i wouldve done it in a heartbeat with a song in my heart... but like you, what I saw at the end of ME3 just defied my wildest imaginings of bad... and I knew it was coming..I still cant believe what I saw, and to date.. even though ive got every class pretty much, ive only ever completed the game once... I stop before they head to Earth and go to my happy place in my head... like I cant even cope with the goodbye scenes again lol

[Ajna]

Don't you just hate those days when you wake up with a headache, then it almost disappears, then it comes later..I blame the rain...

Modifié par Ajna, 20 avril 2012 - 05:24 .

[chibievil]

 need more kaidan piccys, heres one i found, to me kaidan looks a bit creepy but cool lols

[dstrawberrygirl]

I guess I expected Bioware would either kill off Shepard "it's the end of Shepard's storyline" or force some diabolical choice on you. Never expected three crappy non-choices and a ghost kid. No, none of that made sense, I shall continue with the fanfic and just put it all to one side for a while and pretend that it's not all over yet. We got to Earth, said farewells just in case, then - surprise! They all live! Reapers destroyed, celebrations, dancing Ewoks.

Graceyn! Another awesome chapter!!

[AshTheBrave]

LadyofRivendell wrote...

...Ha. I was expecting there to be a multitude of endings, much like DA:O, which would include Shepard dying/living, sacrificing/saving Earth, completely failing/coming out the biggest damn heroes in the Galaxy, etc. I figured that, again, like Origins, the "happiest" ending would come at a price, and that was something I was willing to pay. But nope.

This is exactly what I went into the game thinking too. They did so well with the ending to DA:O I was expecting nothing less. Your choices made a difference or at least you could see the results. I really thought there would a range of endings and you could choose what ultimately happened to your Shepard.

I actually did go into this game knowing my Shepard would gladly sacrifice herself for the galaxy if need be. After Kaidan's goodbye I had to reasses things. She'd still sacrifice herself if need be but I needed to know everything was going to be Ok afterwards, that Kaidan would be ok. I'm not giving her up for anything less. I wouldn't accept that. I'd find another way.

Now I'm tired of it and I just want them together again.

[legbamel]

Woo! I really stirred the pot, didn't I. I never said that I thoug Shepard had to die, just that, knowing BioWare wanted this to literally be the end of the trilogy, that's what I expected. And that is okay with me. I don't hate the idea of a happy ending, I just think BioWare tried for the "epic" heroic move of Shep giving literally her all to save the rest of the galaxy.

But then they took it back with their nonsensical fleeing Normandy. If they require Shep to die it should not be alone. That was the point I meant to make. Happy, for my Shep, would be with Kaidan and back on the Normandy, working for the Council with her Spectre partner. No sitting back on her laurels and no babies, just back to work.

[LastFadingSmile]

chibievil wrote...

 need more kaidan piccys, heres one i found, to me kaidan looks a bit creepy but cool lols

<hilarious snip>

He looks like Buzz Lightyear.  

[Kyria Nyriese]

I agree with what most of you have said here. While I did expect that unless you worked your butt off, Shepard would die, and maybe his/her crew. However, I think that there should have also been the option to win the game and have the 'happily ever after' along with it and a variation of the options between, depending on how hard you worked.

While I believe in the bittersweet, the hero dies to save the day, that's not all there is to it, sometimes it's alright to have a happy ending, where the hero gets the guy/girl and rides off into the sunset.

[Aslanasadi]

madlily wrote...

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Ainyan42 wrote...

Phoenix NL wrote...

Aslanasadi wrote...

legbamel wrote...

?I knew BioWare I expected Shepard to die, because wanted to end her story. I was fine with that but I never expected her to die alone. As much as I love Anderson, it should have been Kaidan up on the Citadel with her. How much more wrenching would it have been to have TIM force you to shoot your LI?

For me, Shep has filfilled her purpose. As Garrus said, she was born. To do this. I never saw her retiring or having babies. She's too young to quit and, really, everything else would be so anticlimactic. But to tear away every good thing in her life and then shove the best of them onto some random planet smacks us right in the face after the investment we've all made in our Shepards.

What do I want to see in the ending? Shepard and Kaidan (or LI of your choice) deciding the fate of the galaxy together. Whether they live or die is up to BioWare.

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Same here, I always thought that there would be a number of different outcomes ranging from Shep dying to s/he living and reuniting with their LI and crew. I don't think I ever saw Shepard fully retiring, at least not my one, but maybe taking a break from active duty or maybe taking on more of a leadership/mentoring role within the Alliance. They managed it for DA:O so I don't see why it couldn't be done for ME3.

'Had to die' is stupid, no offense. There was never any reason why she 'had to die'. Could die - yes, that should always be an option. But given that three of the main themes of Mass Effect are 'Hope', 'Persevering against impossible odds', and 'Choice', there is absolutely no reason why players who completed the maximum amount of objectives and made the right choices (Paragon or Renegade) couldn't see an ending where Shepard lived (WITH his/her LI), the Reaper threat was eliminated (even if it was just long enough that the galaxy could rebuild and prepare for their return), and the galaxy was united in the effort to rebuild.

I don't understand the hate for happy endings. Even DA:O - which was far darker in theme than Mass Effect - had the option for a happy ending. Not everything was sunshine and roses with it, either, considering the fact that to get that happy ending, you had to pretty much make a deal with the devil (and even worse, if you were the female Warden with Alistair as your LI, you basically got to w**** him out) that hints at having helped to create what is, in essence, an Anti-Christ for the future. Should Shepard have had to make a deeply personal sacrifice to ensure the future of herself and her companions? Sure. Should there have been an option for her to sacrifice herself for the greater good? Absolutely. 

But I think it's just sheer cruelty to build up not one, but three games in which your character develops intense relationships with certain characters only to have it all boil down to: Pick your poison, and whichever you pick, you'll die and your crew is stranded in the middle of nowhere. (Or worse, you'll live, trapped in rubble, with your crew and your LI stranded light-years away). And even worse, it's criminally asinine (and terminally lazy) to expect people to take a few short, disjointed cut-scenes and 'develop your own ending' based on 'speculation from everyone'. Why bother? In the most logical conclusion given the evidence of the previous games, everyone dies anyway. 

^^ this!

i have 2 enddings in my head  for my sheps baside on haveing the OPPTION to  have shep scarifce her self. 
one: Shep realise's  the stupid star child isn't the Catlistc.. it was the cyper she got on Feros. so she jumps into the beam, knowing it will kill her, so the catilisc is  now part of the crucible and POW no reapers...

my 2nd is a bit more far fetched. Shep and Liara both got mortly wonded in the run to beam. Javick was the one to go though and hit the all might reaper off switch. Liara, Barely awake, activevates a sos signal on her omi tool and dies, [ sorry liara fans]  a group,  the crew find Shep  just in time and get her medical help. she lives on to happy forfilled life with Kaidan.

i also had an idea about the Hertic Program form ME2. .. but that seamd stupid and unplauseable..

I swear.. if Shepard hadve poked her head out of the Normandy at the end.. monster plot holes withstanding, people would have rejoiced... no one wouldve cared if it didnt make sense, regardless of what they said.. for the 'good/high ems/destroy' ending...

in some ways it restores my faith that there are others out there who are romantics

I agree with what's said here  
And believe me I'm romantic and I have a lof of friends who feel this way, too.

[Ajna]

*raises hand* hopeless romantic here...

[Graceyn]

dstrawberrygirl wrote...

I guess I expected Bioware would either kill off Shepard "it's the end of Shepard's storyline" or force some diabolical choice on you. Never expected three crappy non-choices and a ghost kid. No, none of that made sense, I shall continue with the fanfic and just put it all to one side for a while and pretend that it's not all over yet. We got to Earth, said farewells just in case, then - surprise! They all live! Reapers destroyed, celebrations, dancing Ewoks.

Graceyn! Another awesome chapter!!

Thank you .

Have more Kaidan!  I love this picture so much:


LilliBP

[EDIT:  And I didn't even have to scramble for ToP!]

Modifié par Graceyn, 20 avril 2012 - 06:30 .