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[txmn1016]

I LikeTo Doodle wrote...

Kolotosa wrote...

I'm tired and somewhat cranky/fuzzy -- so trying to think about things usually ends up in something akin to a dog chasing its own tail -- but the more I do I have to wonder what even was the point of the Collectors if the Reapers were just going to attack everyone in full force anyway. Especially when you consider that the countdown in Arrival, before you blow the relay, assuming you do Arrival, is 2 days. So at any given point in ME2, the Reapers are potentially only 2 days away from entering the galaxy through the Alpha relay.

So WTF is Harbinger doing with the Collectors the the human reaper baby? Art project? Grad school architecture thesis? Drunken dare?

ME3: the perfect place to jump into the trilogy, 'cause the first two don't mean **** anymore anyway.

#cranky

appearently the first ending got leaked so they had to change it into the rubbish one now.
it had something to do with "Dark Energy" and apparently Humans are blah blah blah dark energy blah blah stuff is written here, if you are continuing to read this then you should know i forgot stuff and typing the ohso random stuff so yeah happy days.

I don't think the leak is the reason why they didn't use it. Drew Karpyshyn commented on this.

[Doodle]

txmn1016 wrote...

I don't think the leak is the reason why they didn't use it. Drew Karpyshyn commented on this.

oh thanks for pointing it out

oh did you see the youtube vid link i posted about Kaidan and the "reminds me of virmire" scene?

[ShallowlLife9871]

sooo i just found this on youtube.. not sure if it's been posted here.. but...

[txmn1016]

I LikeTo Doodle wrote...

txmn1016 wrote...
Aw, I took Garrus so that's why I didn't get it I guess.  Wish it was on youtube.  

www.youtube.com/watch Skip to 4:50

also this is Chibi's video

Found it! Thanks! Also, I guess I didn't get it because I chose the renegade option, "I get it."

[txmn1016]

ShallowlLife9871 wrote...

sooo i just found this on youtube.. not sure if it's been posted here.. but...

D'aaaawwww.  Missed this one too becuase I hadn't recruited Tali yet! 

[Doodle]

txmn1016 wrote...

I LikeTo Doodle wrote...

txmn1016 wrote...
Aw, I took Garrus so that's why I didn't get it I guess.  Wish it was on youtube.  

www.youtube.com/watch Skip to 4:50

also this is Chibi's video

Found it! Thanks! Also, I guess I didn't get it because I chose the renegade option, "I get it."

If you bring Garrus along his convo takes Kaidans place... which is EVIL.

In ME1 you go to Feros, Noveria and virmire

In ME3 you go to Noveria and have a reference to Feros (Zhu's hope)...

Wish they have a "Return to Virmire" dlc

[NRieh]

What do you guys think would've happened, Shep and Kaidan-wise, if Shepard hadn't died on the Normandy? Wouldn't it have been great to have a game there?

I think that it, actually, did them good. It's hard to tell which of two suffered more - Kaidan with his two years, or Shep which had none. I mean...you have your ship, your friends and you lover...and then you wake up, find out you missed two years so "that perfect night" happened NOT yesterday...at all, and you don't know how your man took it all. And you have to work with bad guys. And those bad guys are seem to be well informed about your private past and use it a lot. What I really don't like about horizon scene - is that shep's side of the story was not even slightly expressed. She does not even try to explain things, as if she really does not care.

As for Kaidan as squad member in ME2..I hell missed him, true, but still...it was nice to know he's somewhat safe. Having your man alive and away from trouble seem right thing to me. Also it was a damn good reason to beat those collectors and get back alive. I'd say in my own lore universe ows him personaly. Even more then once, probably.

[shepskisaac]

AndreasShepard wrote...

That's the old version of the image,  I cleaned it up more since, fixed a few anatomy issues, still not perfect but it never will be so I look forward to doing more (hopefully happier kaidan/shep art at some point in the future).  I actually had Raphael sign a copy of this piece too, he said he was so glad Bioware decided to finally make include s/s romance options, which was definitely cool to hear since most of his interviews are in regards to femshep (which makes perfect sense considering that's Kaidan's biggest fan base and he's straight). 

Haha, cool that you mentioned the s/s romance to him. You know that he totally leaked it back in June last year? And then tried to pretend he didn't, mentioning "female Shepard female Shepard female Shepard" 100 times in his audioblogs when talking how will Kaidan's romance in ME3 be like. I remember it was syllogi (I think) that mentioned how suspicious his constant mentions of 'female' sounded like and how she thought it's probably because of his earlier leak, she was so right xD Ohh Raphael

[Phoenix NL]

Kolotosa wrote...

ShallowlLife9871 wrote...

yep, I am indeed Australian .

God, there are so many things I miss about home, but most of them involve food. I would pretty much kill a man for a Violet Crumble some days. And good Cadbury chocolate, with all of the flavours, not the piddly selection that we get here.

You know here they call honeycomb "seafoam"? wtf is that about. Crazy Canadians, you barely even know what the sea is!

Sorry catching up - The hubby is always complaining about missing Aussie foods until I managed to find a store in London that sells a lot of the goodies. He really misses the Allens lollies though.

[Phoenix NL]

Nrieh wrote...

What do you guys think would've happened, Shep and Kaidan-wise, if Shepard hadn't died on the Normandy? Wouldn't it have been great to have a game there?

I think that it, actually, did them good. It's hard to tell which of two suffered more - Kaidan with his two years, or Shep which had none. I mean...you have your ship, your friends and you lover...and then you wake up, find out you missed two years so "that perfect night" happened NOT yesterday...at all, and you don't know how your man took it all. And you have to work with bad guys. And those bad guys are seem to be well informed about your private past and use it a lot. What I really don't like about horizon scene - is that shep's side of the story was not even slightly expressed. She does not even try to explain things, as if she really does not care.

As for Kaidan as squad member in ME2..I hell missed him, true, but still...it was nice to know he's somewhat safe. Having your man alive and away from trouble seem right thing to me. Also it was a damn good reason to beat those collectors and get back alive. I'd say in my own lore universe ows him personaly. Even more then once, probably.

I think that Shepard's death as horrible as it was, made Kaidan stronger. I think if things hadn't happened the way that they did he wouldn't have become as "capable"  and would have probably stayed in Shepard's shadow more than focussing on himself so much if that makes sense?

[dstrawberrygirl]

Phoenix NL wrote...

Kolotosa wrote...

ShallowlLife9871 wrote...

yep, I am indeed Australian .

God, there are so many things I miss about home, but most of them involve food. I would pretty much kill a man for a Violet Crumble some days. And good Cadbury chocolate, with all of the flavours, not the piddly selection that we get here.

You know here they call honeycomb "seafoam"? wtf is that about. Crazy Canadians, you barely even know what the sea is!

Sorry catching up - The hubby is always complaining about missing Aussie foods until I managed to find a store in London that sells a lot of the goodies. He really misses the Allens lollies though.

Being a Brit in the US I miss a couple of things from the UK. Mainly, I miss jaffa cakes. And plain chocolate digestives. You can sometimes find an "irish" section in stores here that sells some of my old favourites. But I have to order jaffa cakes from specialist suppliers, and haven't had a plain chocolate digestive since last year

Kaidan cookies are an excellent substitute.

[Phoenix NL]

dstrawberrygirl wrote...

Phoenix NL wrote...

Kolotosa wrote...

ShallowlLife9871 wrote...

yep, I am indeed Australian .

God, there are so many things I miss about home, but most of them involve food. I would pretty much kill a man for a Violet Crumble some days. And good Cadbury chocolate, with all of the flavours, not the piddly selection that we get here.

You know here they call honeycomb "seafoam"? wtf is that about. Crazy Canadians, you barely even know what the sea is!

Sorry catching up - The hubby is always complaining about missing Aussie foods until I managed to find a store in London that sells a lot of the goodies. He really misses the Allens lollies though.

Being a Brit in the US I miss a couple of things from the UK. Mainly, I miss jaffa cakes. And plain chocolate digestives. You can sometimes find an "irish" section in stores here that sells some of my old favourites. But I have to order jaffa cakes from specialist suppliers, and haven't had a plain chocolate digestive since last year

Kaidan cookies are an excellent substitute.

Give me a shout if you ever want me to send some across. It's not hard to grab some next time I'm at Sainsburys.

[AshTheBrave]

Phoenix NL wrote...

Nrieh wrote...

What do you guys think would've happened, Shep and Kaidan-wise, if Shepard hadn't died on the Normandy? Wouldn't it have been great to have a game there?

I think that it, actually, did them good. It's hard to tell which of two suffered more - Kaidan with his two years, or Shep which had none. I mean...you have your ship, your friends and you lover...and then you wake up, find out you missed two years so "that perfect night" happened NOT yesterday...at all, and you don't know how your man took it all. And you have to work with bad guys. And those bad guys are seem to be well informed about your private past and use it a lot. What I really don't like about horizon scene - is that shep's side of the story was not even slightly expressed. She does not even try to explain things, as if she really does not care.

As for Kaidan as squad member in ME2..I hell missed him, true, but still...it was nice to know he's somewhat safe. Having your man alive and away from trouble seem right thing to me. Also it was a damn good reason to beat those collectors and get back alive. I'd say in my own lore universe ows him personaly. Even more then once, probably.

I think that Shepard's death as horrible as it was, made Kaidan stronger. I think if things hadn't happened the way that they did he wouldn't have become as "capable"  and would have probably stayed in Shepard's shadow more than focussing on himself so much if that makes sense?

I agree. I think it definitley brought him up faster, but you guys don't think he could have done it without Shepard dying? That's an interesting thing. Would he have been content to always be in Shepard's shadow? After He/She died, did Kaidan feel that way anyway? Is Shepard just so "larger than life" that he/she had to die for Kaidan to get anywhere?

If Shepard had lived would Kaidan have learned more? If the relationship lasts eventually they wouldn't be able to hide it anymore and one of them would get reassigned. I'm sure Kaidan would come into his own either way. Maybe better? Who knows? I know my Shepard would force him to make some decisions. Get him to do things himself. She wouldn't let him be stuck in her shadow.

EDIT: Also for dstrawberrygirl , my Kroger sells plain chocolate digestives in the "ethnic food section" lol.

Modifié par AshTheBrave, 11 mai 2012 - 01:55 .

[Phoenix NL]

AshTheBrave wrote...

Phoenix NL wrote...

I think that Shepard's death as horrible as it was, made Kaidan stronger. I think if things hadn't happened the way that they did he wouldn't have become as "capable"  and would have probably stayed in Shepard's shadow more than focussing on himself so much if that makes sense?

I agree. I think it definitley brought him up faster, but you guys don't think he could have done it without Shepard dying? That's an interesting thing. Would he have been content to always be in Shepard's shadow? After He/She died, did Kaidan feel that way anyway? Is Shepard just so "larger than life" that he/she had to die for Kaidan to get anywhere?

If Shepard had lived would Kaidan have learned more? If the relationship lasts eventually they wouldn't be able to hide it anymore and one of them would get reassigned. I'm sure Kaidan would come into his own either way. Maybe better? Who knows? I know my Shepard would force him to make some decisions. Get him to do things himself. She wouldn't let him be stuck in her shadow.

He might have eventually been able to but I think Shepard was very focussed on the Reaper threat. Without him/her there the Alliance focussed on other things whereas had she been that would have been her focus. Like Joker says, without him/her everything fell apart and the Alliance tried to sweep it under the rug. That's why I say he might have stayed in her shadow. I think in the longer term and if the relationship had continued you're right, one of them would have been reassigned and he could have grown that way.

Edit: I agree that my Shepard wouldn't have wanted him to be stuck in her shadow either but again with the Reaper threat how much would she have been able to force him to stand on his own when she needed her team?

Modifié par Phoenix NL, 11 mai 2012 - 01:59 .

[LastFadingSmile]

Phoenix NL wrote...


Sorry catching up - The hubby is always complaining about missing Aussie foods until I managed to find a store in London that sells a lot of the goodies. He really misses the Allens lollies though.

I will never be able to adequately express my joy when i found that stores here had begun to carry Tim Tams. They're expensive as **** but you know what... sometimes.... sometimes a Tim Tam Slam is worth a 5 dollar packet of cookies (biscuits, damn it).

[Phoenix NL]

Kolotosa wrote...

Phoenix NL wrote...


Sorry catching up - The hubby is always complaining about missing Aussie foods until I managed to find a store in London that sells a lot of the goodies. He really misses the Allens lollies though.

I will never be able to adequately express my joy when i found that stores here had begun to carry Tim Tams. They're expensive as **** but you know what... sometimes.... sometimes a Tim Tam Slam is worth a 5 dollar packet of cookies (biscuits, damn it).

Yep Dave looked like he was about to cry with joy when I brought him a few packets. The "cuppa" (I will never get used to that word sorry) came out immediately and I got precise instructions on the correct method of eating them.

[NRieh]

I think that Shepard's death as horrible as it was, made Kaidan stronger. I think if things hadn't happened the way that they did he wouldn't have become as "capable"

Just as I said - it actually did them good. Not saying it was easy  and nice, but the outcome seems to be...hmm..rewarding, yes. :innocent: 

Unless they screw it all even more in EC.
I have a strong feeling that we're going to have cut where VS would gather rest of the crew aboard...Wish to be wrong, really-really. But both Kaidan and Ash are recording, and not a word about any of Sheps.  That should mean something, Isuppose.

[Phoenix NL]

Nrieh wrote...

I think that Shepard's death as horrible as it was, made Kaidan stronger. I think if things hadn't happened the way that they did he wouldn't have become as "capable"

Just as I said - it actually did them good. Not saying it was easy  and nice, but the outcome seems to be...hmm..rewarding, yes. :innocent: 

Unless they screw it all even more in EC.
I have a strong feeling that we're going to have cut where VS would gather rest of the crew aboard...Wish to be wrong, really-really. But both Kaidan and Ash are recording, and not a word about any of Sheps.  That should mean something, Isuppose.

I know there was an article saying that all the VAs including the Sheps were back recording but I didn't see any confirmation outside of that. Just Mike Gamble saying that they were recording a lot of voice work.

[LastFadingSmile]

Nrieh wrote...

Unless they screw it all even more in EC.
I have a strong feeling that we're going to have cut where VS would gather rest of the crew aboard...Wish to be wrong, really-really. But both Kaidan and Ash are recording, and not a word about any of Sheps.  That should mean something, Isuppose.

[NRieh]

I know there was an article saying that all the VAs including the Sheps were back recording but I didn't see any confirmation outside of that.

We do know about Kaidan, Ash, EDI, Garrus. Though, I could miss someone. Add Joker and we'll fill the gap between harb shot and crashlanding...

[AshTheBrave]

Nrieh wrote...
Unless they screw it all even more in EC.
I have a strong feeling that we're going to have cut where VS would gather rest of the crew aboard...Wish to be wrong, really-really. But both Kaidan and Ash are recording, and not a word about any of Sheps.  That should mean something, Isuppose.

Gather the crew to go get Shepard off the Citadel!

Hey, I can dream right?

[LastFadingSmile]

AshTheBrave wrote...

Gather the crew to go get Shepard off the Citadel!

Hey, I can dream right?

And there's no recording because the explosion has left Shepard mute!  

[Phoenix NL]

This hasn't inspired great hope in me for the EC though....

https://twitter.com/...995931851112448

Not sure what we were supposed to infer from what we got. I thought that to infer something you need clues to lead you towards a specific inference. We must have all missed what Joker running away inferred......

[NRieh]

Gather the crew to go get Shepard off the Citadel!


Hey, I can dream right?

Oh, are you still there?.. Me was back on Earth and fixed rather soon..   

Problem here is, that it  was one of "unofficial" explainations how and why were they flying away. To get you down. But you blew the relays... (something tells me most of us ended with  "perfect" red)...ad they did not make it, but landed hell knows where....just don't tell me BW reads those multiple threads  to pick up plots for DLC!!!! 

[leighzard]

Merilsell wrote...

Also I'm a wuss. I'm halfway through with my second Femshep and wanted to try the Garrus romance. I started it, but back in her cabin I couldn't bear the sight of Kaidan's picture turned down on her desk, so I chickened out. At this rate I will never get the Paramour achievement for ME2, lol. Ah well, I compared the loyal Shep version to the cheated and the loyal one is so much better, anyway and not only because faithful Shep get a view of DAT ASS xD

I think the Garrus romance is worth a playthrough. It's sweet, but awkward. And he totally makes up for it in ME3 by being a badass. The romance conclusion with Garrus is pretty amazing, it feels much more natural.

Kolotosa wrote...

Please, I'm no amateur. I have an expansive property. In the woods.

Your creepiness never ceases to make me laugh.

About Kaidan: I think not working under Shepard was instrumental in his becoming so capable. So Shepard's death facilitated his growth. However, I also think that if she hadn't died, the Alliance would've eventually caught on and they would've been separated anyways. Kaidan would've had to leave the Normandy. I mean, they could've still taken shore leave together I guess. But I think the relationship would've been totally different. Besides, the reunion in ME3 was sooo sweet after that nonsense on Horizon. Make up sex is always the best. *wink* I hope the EC does it justice. I think it sucks that Kaidan does, in fact, have to lose Shepard again.

Edit:  Ugh.... I take it back.  Phoenix, that tweet is just too depressing.  Of course she also said we'd have the potential to reunite with our crew earlier.  I guess it's all just speculation at this point.

And return to Virmire DLC?  That would be fun.  Except didn't we blow it up?

Also, ToP:

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Modifié par leborum, 11 mai 2012 - 02:19 .