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Sorry for this being late but congrats to those who got a chance to meet Raphael at MCM! Great to hear about all the extra recording he did as well - I'll be starting another complete ME run-through soon so hopefully there will be some EC news by the time I get to ME3.

*crosses fingers*

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chibievil wrote...
hey why you change yer pic, now i don't recognize you aww.


to see how long it took until somebody noticed Posted Image...

and who wouldn't like their picture as chakwas Posted Image

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Forgive my ignorance. Again, I'm new to the Kaidan fandom. I thought most biotics that went to BAat Camp had issues with their families? or the instructors tried to makeout biotics as something to be feared?

Did Kaidan have issues with his parents, or were they always on good terms?

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Aurora313 wrote...

Forgive my ignorance. Again, I'm new to the Kaidan fandom. I thought most biotics that went to BAat Camp had issues with their families? or the instructors tried to makeout biotics as something to be feared?

Did Kaidan have issues with his parents, or were they always on good terms?


We don't have enough information on what went on with other Brain Camp members to speculate.  All that's mentioned of Rana's family is that they were wealthy, not how they felt about her being a biotic.  

I don't imagine a lot of the kids had it easy, though, considering the insanity rate and general prejudice biotics recieved.

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Aurora313 wrote...

Forgive my ignorance. Again, I'm new to the Kaidan fandom. I thought most biotics that went to BAat Camp had issues with their families? or the instructors tried to makeout biotics as something to be feared?

Did Kaidan have issues with his parents, or were they always on good terms?


well it doesn't quite explain that part, Kaidan does say things about his family, but he says good things about them. Never says he hates them for taking him to brain camp or anything

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Aurora313 wrote...

Forgive my ignorance. Again, I'm new to the Kaidan fandom. I thought most biotics that went to BAat Camp had issues with their families? or the instructors tried to makeout biotics as something to be feared?

Did Kaidan have issues with his parents, or were they always on good terms?

We don't really know.  There's a line in ME1 when Kaidan talks about his history and he says something like, "My father served.  It made him proud when I enlisted, eventually."  It can be interpreted either as it took a while for his father to come around, or that it took a while for him to join the Alliance.

As for the biotics in general having issues with their families, I think there is, or was (doesn't come up much in ME3), a general stigma.  The biotic extremists who abducted the politician illustrated that.  It's been a long time since I read the book, but I believe Hendel Mitre was at BAat too and he talks about his past a little bit.

And finally, I have no idea what that last post was about.

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all he ever said was that " a bunch off men in suits show up at your door after school and next thing you know, your on jump zero."
he never says anything about his parents in relation to that. [ as far as i know]

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I have a request. Could anyone help me test Udina's coup variables? I'm trying to figure out how much "friendship/trust" points you need during the stand-off with VS to achieve all outcomes. I just tested that the Paragon/Renegade interrupt adds one point and in my case (did everything right with Kaidan as mShep except for killing the old council) NOT taking the interrupt changed how much points I had and I had to take Charm/Indimidate option with Kaidan. When I did take the interrupt (both Paragon/Renegade, tested both), Kaidan automatically stood down.

What I need is to know whether romance points are taken into account for mShep with Kaidan (or FemShep with Ashley), even though they shouldn't be since you couldn't romance them.

So. Does anyone has a playthrough/saves like this? - FemShep, NO romance with Kaidan in ME1, killed the council, was nice to Kaidan on Mars (denied Cerberus involvement etc), visited Kaidan all times in hospital + Thane/Kirahee saves Salarian Councilour? Basically did everything right with Kaidan except killing the old Council AND didn't romance him (which means no +2 points bonus)?

If yes, could you test how the coup goes both when you take the Paragon/Renegade interrupt during the stand-off and when you don't take it?

Modifié par IsaacShep, 27 mai 2012 - 02:13 .


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Isaac, would that just be a default start up ME3 playthrough?

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AshTheBrave wrote...

Isaac, would that just be a default start up ME3 playthrough?

Unfortunately no :( Default ME3 has Thane & Kirahee dead so Kai Leng kills the Salarian councilor and it influences the points count. Plus, I'm not sure whether +2 romance bonus would count in default ME3. technically, you didn't even had a chance to romance him since there's no Genesis comic equivalent in ME3. So no, wouldn't be good :(

In any case, TAKE THE INTERUPT during the coup people :D Both Paragon AND Renegade (Paragon interrupt appears if you took Paragon line, Renegade if you took Renegade line) .It's the last chance to get some points with Kaidan and may save you if you messed up alot before that ;)

Modifié par IsaacShep, 27 mai 2012 - 02:21 .


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I LikeTo Doodle wrote...
... If it took 1 week to get from one mission to another how would you think the normandy crew will pass time (Mostly Kaidan Posted Image)?  


First, I did notice you changed your Avatar (we used to have the same one) but I didn't say anything.  

I think they wake up, exercise (which I need to get back into), eat breakfast, clean/repair/train their armor and weapons, flirt, lunch. plan mission strategy, flirt, dinner, flirt, sleep. ;)

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IsaacShep wrote...
... So. Does anyone has a playthrough/saves like this? - FemShep, NO romance with Kaidan in ME1, killed the council, was nice to Kaidan on Mars (denied Cerberus involvement etc), visited Kaidan all times in hospital + Thane/Kirahee saves Salarian Councilour? Basically did everything right with Kaidan except killing the old Council AND didn't romance him (which means no +2 points bonus)?

If yes, could you test how the coup goes both when you take the Paragon/Renegade interrupt during the stand-off and when you don't take it? 


http://www.masseffectsaves.com/  may have some if you're missing them.   My default mShep killed the council, did not romance Kaidan in ME1 (couldn't), was nice to Kaidan on Mars, etc of your list.   I'm not sure I have a save at the Coup though I can check.   But I don't want to kill Kaidan!!!   (I didn't know you coudl until I viewed it on YouTube :blink::crying:)

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Kunari801 wrote...

I LikeTo Doodle wrote...
... If it took 1 week to get from one mission to another how would you think the normandy crew will pass time (Mostly Kaidan Posted Image)?  


First, I did notice you changed your Avatar (we used to have the same one) but I didn't say anything.  

I think they wake up, exercise (which I need to get back into), eat breakfast, clean/repair/train their armor and weapons, flirt, lunch. plan mission strategy, flirt, dinner, flirt, sleep. ;)



Intresting... and why you no say anything


P.S lacking a Kaidan picture on this page

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He seems happy... but he no see future and how bad it is..Posted Image

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IsaacShep wrote...
Unfortunately no :( Default ME3 has Thane & Kirahee dead so Kai Leng kills the Salarian councilor and it influences the points count. Plus, I'm not sure whether +2 romance bonus would count in default ME3. technically, you didn't even had a chance to romance him since there's no Genesis comic equivalent in ME3. So no, wouldn't be good :(


So would this need to be a ME1 ME2 import? I've never used the comic. Does Kirahe live through Genesis? Could a Genesis ME2 quick game (no loyalty) work?

EDIT: Actually I guess you need two loyalty missions for that to have a chance anyway :lol:

Modifié par AshTheBrave, 27 mai 2012 - 02:39 .


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AshTheBrave wrote...

IsaacShep wrote...
Unfortunately no :( Default ME3 has Thane & Kirahee dead so Kai Leng kills the Salarian councilor and it influences the points count. Plus, I'm not sure whether +2 romance bonus would count in default ME3. technically, you didn't even had a chance to romance him since there's no Genesis comic equivalent in ME3. So no, wouldn't be good :(


So would this need to be a ME1 ME2 import? I've never used the comic. Does Kirahe live through Genesis? Could a Genesis ME2 quick game (no loyalty) work?

EDIT: Actually I guess you need two loyalty missions for that to have a chance anyway :lol:


hehe actually you don't need any loyalty missions.

I've just been through the death etc etc, without the upgrades, impossible.

however when you get to "hold the line" around 4 party members die (unless you use miranda as 2nd fire team leader the 2nd time, unless it's a glitch but meh)

if zaeed, grunt and garrus all live to hold the line

3 party members will die. so basicly you can survive with 0 loyalties.

(unless i'm doing my maths wrong Posted Image)

Edit: basicly the best people to die/take with you to boss is, Tali, kasumi, mordin and jack

i will edit this until i get it right!

Edit 2: do it in this order and you should be fine

All normandy upgrades

Vent specilist: Tali/kasumi

Fire arm leader: any

Death of vent specilist

biotic sphere: use samara/morinth

Bring jack and garrus with you

Death of jack

use miranda as 2nd fire team leader

if the guide is true then miranda lives, if not then she dies (oh well)

Escort: mordin

Mordin dies

Hold the line:

Bring Kasumi/Tali (for who didn't die at vent specilist) and one of these members:
Thane, legion, samara, jacob or miranda (they both die)

This leads

Grunt, zaeed and garrus alive with 3 or 4 members alive

Average is 2 so everyone survives (with 3 alive extra alive)

if 4 extra alive it will cause around 2 deaths max

there its done!

Modifié par I LikeTo Doodle, 27 mai 2012 - 02:56 .


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I LikeTo Doodle wrote...

Kunari801 wrote...
First, I did notice you changed your Avatar (we used to have the same one) but I didn't say anything.  

I think they wake up, exercise (which I need to get back into), eat breakfast, clean/repair/train their armor and weapons, flirt, lunch. plan mission strategy, flirt, dinner, flirt, sleep. ;)  


Intresting... and why you no say anything

P.S lacking a Kaidan picture on this page (snip)
He seems happy... but he no see future and how bad it is..Posted Image


I figured you did it as a favor to me so we didn't have teh same avatar anymore and could tell our posts apart!   I didn't want to dispell that nice thought by asking. 

Kaidan is happy to *finally* start/rekindle a romance with Shepard and sad because he knows Star-brat is coming to take Shepard away from him. 

I LikeTo Doodle wrote...

hehe actually you don't need any loyalty missions. 

I've just been through the death etc etc, without the upgrades, impossible....



I like my squad too much to let them die in the SM, I've never been able to avoid the loyality missions. 


Edit: MShep + Kaidan music video

Modifié par Kunari801, 27 mai 2012 - 02:58 .


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Kunari801 wrote...

My default mShep killed the council, did not romance Kaidan in ME1 (couldn't), was nice to Kaidan on Mars, etc of your list.   I'm not sure I have a save at the Coup though I can check.   But I don't want to kill Kaidan!!!   (I didn't know you coudl until I viewed it on YouTube )

That's the same save I as had so no need to check, I already did :P I wanted to check FemShep with the same variables

AshTheBrave wrote...

So would this need to be a ME1 ME2
import? I've never used the comic. Does Kirahe live through Genesis?
Could a Genesis ME2 quick game (no loyalty) work?

No don't bother, I don't want anyone to go through the game just to check this. If anyone already has a save before the coup with such variables then I would ask to check it, but otherwise ain't worth it for such a small thing ;)

Modifié par IsaacShep, 27 mai 2012 - 02:53 .


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Kunari801 wrote...

I LikeTo Doodle wrote...

hehe actually you don't need any loyalty missions. 

I've just been through the death etc etc, without the upgrades, impossible....



I like my squad too much to let them die in the SM, I've never been able to avoid the loyality missions. 


well i just updated my post to show how you can survive the suicide mission Posted Image with no loyalties.

Modifié par I LikeTo Doodle, 27 mai 2012 - 03:01 .


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I am sure this has been asked before... y are male Shepards snubbed of a chance to say ILY to either Kaidan or Steve? could they fix it in the EC?

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Kunari801 wrote...

Edit: MShep + Kaidan music video

Ohh lol my old video xD

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IsaacShep wrote...

Kunari801 wrote...

Edit: MShep + Kaidan music video

Ohh lol my old video xD


humm... that was you?

intresting Posted Image

Edit: do you know what i find very rude on xbox...

ME1 gamer pics have ashley but no Kaidan...

waste of money (actually i got em for free xD)

Modifié par I LikeTo Doodle, 27 mai 2012 - 03:04 .


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I LikeTo Doodle wrote...

humm... that was you?
intresting :devil:

Lol yes, made it a year ago, after the announcement of s/s romances :P

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IsaacShep wrote...

I LikeTo Doodle wrote...

humm... that was you?
intresting :devil:

Lol yes, made it a year ago, after the announcement of s/s romances :P


double intresting (i have a intrest to read alot of comments)

So making a new one when EC comes out, remember, give us the link when its out Posted Image

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IsaacShep wrote...

Kunari801 wrote...

My default mShep killed the council, did not romance Kaidan in ME1 (couldn't), was nice to Kaidan on Mars, etc of your list.   I'm not sure I have a save at the Coup though I can check.   But I don't want to kill Kaidan!!!   (I didn't know you coudl until I viewed it on YouTube )

That's the same save I as had so no need to check, I already did :P I wanted to check FemShep with the same variables 


Why do you think it'd be different for a FemShep with the same variables? 


Vigilant111 wrote...

I am sure this has been asked before... y are male Shepards snubbed of a chance to say ILY to either Kaidan or Steve? could they fix it in the EC?


I think they have mShep still a little closeted.  The Kaidan & Shep "goodbye" hug & kiss in London was only because Kaidan pulled Shep in.   I was SO mad when I saw Shepard just getting ready to walk away from Kaidan, I said something like "Don't just walk away you bastard, you love him! Kiss him!"    Yes, I'd like to see Shepard say ILY in the EC but there is *SO* much else that needs "fixing" for the EC.  

Edit: Speaking of mShep+Kaidan NSFW NC-17 new art from Alishatorn (Don't look Doodles) 

Modifié par Kunari801, 27 mai 2012 - 03:10 .


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IsaacShep wrote...

Kunari801 wrote...

Edit: MShep + Kaidan music video

Ohh lol my old video xD  

 

I just seen it today for the first time, linked from Alishatorn's web site.  I love it!  Nice work and I can't wait for one with the EC.   



Edit: ToP... just a sec...  I want this bigger so I can use it as a wallpaper!  (reposted from page 151 another Isaac masterpiece) 

Posted Image 

Modifié par Kunari801, 27 mai 2012 - 03:22 .