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[leighzard]

Satanicponies wrote...

They could get married, since they are both officers, but they could never serve on the same ship. They would have different postings, and both be in the military, but not together. 

@: Military discussion: Whats also interesting is that all the nations on earth still maintain their own militaries. You can think of the Alliance Military as... a Space United Nations Military, that actually gets things done

I thought it would be something like that.  Maybe if they played the magical Spectre card they could still be on the same ship.  Of course if they ever had kids *shudder*, it would kinda suck if mommy and daddy went down in the same firefight.

Aren't there only, like, 3 countries on future Earth anyway?  And they've all stopped fighting each other since the Turians showed up anyway.  Joining the interglactic community really shifts perspective on "us" and "them".  I imagine that anyone who's any good goes to the Alliance Millitary and the national militaries are like my local cops.

[Satanicponies]

leborum wrote...

Satanicponies wrote...

They could get married, since they are both officers, but they could never serve on the same ship. They would have different postings, and both be in the military, but not together. 

@: Military discussion: Whats also interesting is that all the nations on earth still maintain their own militaries. You can think of the Alliance Military as... a Space United Nations Military, that actually gets things done

I thought it would be something like that.  Maybe if they played the magical Spectre card they could still be on the same ship.  Of course if they ever had kids *shudder*, it would kinda suck if mommy and daddy went down in the same firefight.

Aren't there only, like, 3 countries on future Earth anyway?  And they've all stopped fighting each other since the Turians showed up anyway.  Joining the interglactic community really shifts perspective on "us" and "them".  I imagine that anyone who's any good goes to the Alliance Millitary and the national militaries are like my local cops.

Acutally, the n7 school recruits officers from all the branches of  militaries on earth to the program. So they have to be good.

http://masseffect.wikia.com/wiki/N7 

Of course, we know theres only 1 military and nation in the future, and thats 'Murica. 

edit: plus im sure...certain countries that shall not be named....still hate each other, and certain ideals still clash. and theres probably a large "terrorism" threat due to everyone and their moms can now go to earth. BATARIANS im looking at you!

Modifié par Satanicponies, 01 juin 2012 - 02:51 .

[xenacrocker]

haven't posted in a while but I just wanted to say thanks for all the yummy art and the military discussion is interesting b/c I always wondered about that.

Modifié par xenacrocker, 01 juin 2012 - 03:01 .

[NRieh]

They could get married, since they are both officers, but they could never serve on the same ship. They would have different postings, and both be in the military, but not together.

So, marriage (while on shore leave, lol) does not "fix" subordinance problems, huh? 

Returning to our Sheps and Kaidans then. Does it all mean, that in surviving scenario any happy everafters may still "officially" considered problematic? I'm trying to figure out to myself, how could it be, and whether it is possible for both to keep each other and their service at same time. Without applying their spectreness (which means not so much on Earth anyway, imo) and "Shepard is a special case" factor. I don't feel like they could both just retire to mom's house for gardening. And occasional shore leave nights (if serving in different places) do not seem to fit as well.

...I hate BW, they left one big plot hole where ME Universe used to be not long ago. Looks like it's first time I'm trying to build head-canon in the middle of nowhere and out of nothing. I'm totally ok with imagining things, but having no "real" context does not feel nice, if you know what I mean. Like trying to play in a sandbox with no sand. 

[Sialater]

Nrieh wrote...

They could get married, since they are both officers, but they could never serve on the same ship. They would have different postings, and both be in the military, but not together.

So, marriage (while on shore leave, lol) does not "fix" subordinance problems, huh? 

Returning to our Sheps and Kaidans then. Does it all mean, that in surviving scenario any happy everafters may still "officially" considered problematic? I'm trying to figure out to myself, how could it be, and whether it is possible for both to keep each other and their service at same time. Without applying their spectreness (which means not so much on Earth anyway, imo) and "Shepard is a special case" factor. I don't feel like they could both just retire to mom's house for gardening. And occasional shore leave nights (if serving in different places) do not seem to fit as well.

...I hate BW, they left one big plot hole where ME Universe used to be not long ago. Looks like it's first time I'm trying to build head-canon in the middle of nowhere and out of nothing. I'm totally ok with imagining things, but having no "real" context does not feel nice, if you know what I mean. Like trying to play in a sandbox with no sand. 

Spectre-ness does count, even on Earth.  I don't honestly think the Alliance would gainsay Shepard and Kaidan getting married.  Not after everything. Even if Shepard wanted to remain active duty.  (Mine doesn't.  Mine wants to found a colony, honoring Mindoir.)

[chibievil]

My shepard retires somewhere warm with Kaidan, she has had enough of Saving the galaxy. and doesn't think anything more terrible could happen after Reaper invasion. Well she hopes not. they have a private wedding, only their closest friends are invited (the ones who served on normandy). They also help rebuild earth as much as they can, nothing stops them from been together as well, not the alliance and not the council. they live a comfortable life, has many children and dies a very old lady in Kaidan's arms. (THey both die in their sleep together)

Modifié par chibievil, 01 juin 2012 - 03:26 .

[Kunari801]

Nrieh wrote...
So, marriage (while on shore leave, lol) does not "fix" subordinance problems, huh? 

Returning to our Sheps and Kaidans then. Does it all mean, that in surviving scenario any happy everafters may still "officially" considered problematic?...  

Heroes of the galaxy, you think anyone is going to care?   

My Shepard and Kaidan get married.  Shepard and Kaidan want to help rebuild Earth and Galaxy but they want to do it together.   The Alliance and Council agreed since they are Spectres anyway and there is much work that needs to be done to worry about two guys getting married.  

They open an orphanage in North America (My Shep is an Earthborn) while helping rebuild Earth.  Kaidan's mother helps with the kids and Garrus, Tali, Liara, etc drop in now and then to entertain the kids too.   

The Citadel is now in Earth orbit since no one knows how to move it back yet.  The Relays were damaged not destroyed but take time to reactivate a single relay link, estimate is years or decades to get all the Relays working again.   Some are is worse shape than others too.  

Modifié par Kunari801, 01 juin 2012 - 03:28 .

[leighzard]

Nrieh wrote...

...I hate BW, they left one big plot hole where ME Universe used to be not long ago. Looks like it's first time I'm trying to build head-canon in the middle of nowhere and out of nothing. I'm totally ok with imagining things, but having no "real" context does not feel nice, if you know what I mean. Like trying to play in a sandbox with no sand. 

I feel your pain.  The EC better make some gorram sense out of this mess.  That was a very poetic analogy, btw.

And I agree that being a spectre counts for something, so they might be able to wrangle several tours of duty together.  But here's something to think about: would Shepard want to serve with Kaidan after the Reaper Invasion?  It's a lot easier to disobey your husband's orders than your commanding officer's, after all.  I should know, I ignore my husband all the time.  Plus, s/he's already been through one situation where she had to choose Kaidan over Ash on Virmire.  And it was the right choice at the time, sure, or rather, ther was no definitively right choice.  But what if the next time, saving Kaidan wasn't the right choice?  Would Shepard want to have to sacrifice her husband to save the lives of the crew, or worse, save Kaidan, and know that she'd failed the mission?  I'd choose save Kaidan every time, obvi, but is there a point where the price is too high?  And making that choice would inevitably tarnish her career as well.  In fact, she might get booted.  Anyway, I don't know the answer to this.  Part of me things Shep and Kaidan would never want to be apart, and another part thinks they'd both want to continue their careers and the best way to do that is separately.  They'd still have shore leave weekends and maybe they could arrange their rotations so they're both home for months at a time.  I don't know... just putting it out there.

[NRieh]

Spectre-ness does count, even on Earth.

On devastated Earth, cut off from council races (excluding some fleet), isolated in own sector and (very likely) without any communications going outside system?.. Yeah, I know that is not 100% anything is possible, and that's a problem, but surviving is either IT or Red...just as I said - one huge Plot Hole.

I don't honestly think the Alliance would gainsay Shepard and Kaidan getting married. Not after everything. Even if Shepard wanted to remain active duty.

Tat's not how it works, direct threat and special circumstances where Shep could have fun on Normandy are gone(even if take escape cut as "never happened"). I doubt they may be granted with any kind of priveleges of that kind. If their regulations prohibit such relations - it can not happen. And I don't feel Kaidan would entirely support the way "me Shepard does what me want with Alenko Spectre, screw regulations".

ps: I'm also not sure about how two only human spectres got married looks from poitiical point of view, both for humans and aliens. Must be fun 8P

(Mine doesn't. Mine wants to found a colony

And mine looks like hesitating untill I replay with EC. 8P

[Sialater]

Nrieh wrote...

Spectre-ness does count, even on Earth.

On devastated Earth, cut off from council races (excluding some fleet), isolated in own sector and (very likely) without any communications going outside system?.. Yeah, I know that is not 100% anything is possible, and that's a problem, but surviving is either IT or Red...just as I said - one huge Plot Hole.

I don't honestly think the Alliance would gainsay Shepard and Kaidan getting married. Not after everything. Even if Shepard wanted to remain active duty.

Tat's not how it works, direct threat and special circumstances where Shep could have fun on Normandy are gone(even if take escape cut as "never happened"). I doubt they may be granted with any kind of priveleges of that kind. If their regulations prohibit such relations - it can not happen. And I don't feel Kaidan would entirely support the way "me Shepard does what me want with Alenko Spectre, screw regulations".

ps: I'm also not sure about how two only human spectres got married looks from poitiical point of view, both for humans and aliens. Must be fun 8P

(Mine doesn't. Mine wants to found a colony

And mine looks like hesitating untill I replay with EC. 8P

Since I apparently completely disagree with you entirely on the outcome of the endings, I'll just drop this.  I have no desire to debate headcanon.

[Kunari801]

I don't see Shepard and Kadian doing combat missions together. I think those days are behind them. For me they are helping rebuild and opened an orphanage on Earth. Not exactly safe as there is a ton of damage on Earth and unstable rubble around.

I agree, the EC better make some gorram sense (I loved Firefly!). What really makes me mad is: THEY HAD IT. Right in front of them.

A perfect bittersweet ending with the Anderson scene, it would have been just fine to let Shepard and Anderson watch the Reapers get defeated while bleeding out. If high enough EMS, Shepard lives if not he dies next to Anderson. Epilogue of LI reunion or a funeral for Shepard and show a scene or two of the crew & galaxy rebuilding. Perfect ending.

We won't get that with the EC, but it's the ending Mass Effect deserved.

[MonkeynKnot]

In my story of shepard, she retires after helping earth rebuild. I think Kaidan with getting spectre and teaching I think he would want to continue unlike shepard. If anything he would be teaching while shep is just tired from the years of the reapers this and reapers that. almost like all she knows is just save the world. my thing with this as a spacer kid she wouldnt retire for long cause she loves ships and space so she might do a mission or 2 or help tali with her home and meeting garrus' father.

[NRieh]

But here's something to think about: would Shepard want to serve with Kaidan after the Reaper Invasion?

I don't see why not. I mean...I do see some (a lot of, actually, more then I can imagine, probably) complications. But..I also would not like to put Kaidan before the choice Shep vs. duty, just because I know almost for certain what he will choose (bet not duty, huh). But he is a true alliace officer, and it all meant a lot for him, probably, much more then for [my]Shep.

[chibievil]

you know talking about this, my shep told garrus most of the time when he asked me. if i was going to reture after this, i said yes. Shepard said theres only so much war a person could take (or something along those lines)

[NRieh]

I have no desire to debate headcanon.

I wouldn't even try to. But I'm not "debating headcanons" here, I'm just trying to figure out the context, the remaints of canon, which must exist somewhere, even if out а codex. Which is (supposed) to be same for all. Like, I can not tell you that "in my ME both Ash and Kaidan alive" or "we never met with Saren" - that's something same for each, things which happened, Anderson was Capitan, Alenko - Major, Shep was never promoted, and military had damn regulations. I highly respect all kind of fics, and I know what situation are we in - we are left with barely nothing, but headcanons, just as I mentioned couple of posts above.

[Kunari801]

Well, the Alliance probably would not let Shepard and Kaidan serve together again. In game my Shepard also told Garrus that he's tired of war and it seemed like he wanted to retire if he survived.

I don't think they'd do anything about Shepard and Kaidan getting it on while in the war. I think they'd just ignore it. If Kaidan stays in the military Shepard can follow as a retired spouse. If they do not let Shepard retire then maybe they'll pull the Spectre card.

Seemed like Hackett was the highest ranking officer left and I just don't see him pushing Shepard & Kaidan around about it. Not after what they've been through.

[Frozen83]

Ugh... Shepard, you can either become a human councilor or an admiral (we are short on both of them)...

OnT: My paragon Shep would start yelling at them and tell them to stuff their regulations somewhere, because he saved their asses and doesn't give a **** about some regulations any more. And he would live together with Kaidan. And he would have both Khalisa and the public opinion on his side. M.

Modifié par Frozen83, 01 juin 2012 - 04:46 .

[chibievil]

Frozen83 wrote...

Ugh... Shepard, you can either become a human councilor or an admiral (we are short on both of them)...
piccy
OnT: My paragon Shep would start yelling at them and tell them to stuff their regulations somewhere, because he saved their asses and doesn't give a **** about some regulations any more. And he would live together with Kaidan. And he would have both Khalisa and the public opinion on his side. M.

well my shepard would make a great Admiral, also think the universe will be on Shepard side, since Shep saved them all from annhilation. i know i said that shepard would like retirement, but if you thin kabout it, Shepard would miss the normandy and her crew and wouldn't be able to sit stilland would get withdrawl symptoms from not been in a fire fight or having any action from not been in combat.

[Kunari801]

I don't see Shepard retiring and sitting around doing nothing, there is a whole galaxy that needs to be rebuilt. My Shepard would be out there helping do just that with Kaidan by his side.

I can totally see them try to give Admiral or Councilor duties to Shepard and I can even see mine taking either of them if it helped the rebuilding effort move faster.

[chibievil]

i'm on tnychat tlaking to shenkofans and were just talking about raphael sbarge, something metnioned 'i want his hair' and someone said ' what you want his hair for, they just kept saying, voodoo doll, altar shrine. then the smae person said 'well i can't kidnap him or cut him'

Its just so funny i think i may die of laughter

[Ianthia]

chibievil wrote...

 here i uploaded it there, also added some of the mods i MAY have used, if it don't appear the way it should ingame , iam not sure what else i used.

i also gave default clothes, so if you want to change his outfit you can, you can also modify him in create a sim mode as long as you paste it into saved sims. in documents folder

I know, 8 hours late but thanks Chib!! *huugs*
Will work on downloading everything when its not 4am lol
*does a little happy dance and heads back to bed*

[Kunari801]

That's creepy Chibievil.

[Doodle]

Kunari801 wrote...

That's creepy Chibievil.

i laughed

[chibievil]

i know, and its funny hehe

now we all are talking

Modifié par chibievil, 01 juin 2012 - 07:57 .

[Doodle]

chibievil wrote...

now we all are talking

wouldn't be so sure

edit: urghh... because i'm not in a happy mood...



i'll make you lot happy

Modifié par I LikeTo Doodle, 01 juin 2012 - 08:24 .