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#51976
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Yeah, I have to admit that I laughed at them retconning the whole relays getting utterly destroyed thing. I'm happy about it because headcannoning is now a lot easier, but I also found it amusing. If there was any kind of confession in there that they ****ed up (aside from the little message at the end) it was that.

#51977
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Well, I've got all my eggs placed in Dragon Age 3's basket now. Let's hope they don't try any funny business and kill off our Warden or any of the past companions.

... I swear, if they kill of Alistair or Cullen I'll start a bloody riot LOL!

Modifié par LolaLei, 26 juin 2012 - 11:09 .


#51978
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Not just the relays, but the Normandy.

At least in the good destroy ending, they totally retconned her getting damaged while trying to outrun the blast (which still makes no sense, of course).

It was the first time I looked and thought that maybe the ending wasn't going to suck. "I see what you did there! Don't deny it!"

#51979
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LolaLei wrote...

Well, I've got all my eggs placed in Dragon Age 3's basket now. Let's hope they don't try any funny business and kill off our Warden or any of the past companions.

... I swear, if they kill of Alistair or Cullen I'll start a bloody riot LOL!


I don't think they would dare.  I'm still hoping for a Nathaniel romance myself.  Boy is BW good at getting me to love pixelated men.  

SPOILER: 

Did anyone elses heart break when he said "Don't leave me behind"? Jesus, the look on his face tore me apart.  

#51980
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txmn1016 wrote...

SPOILER: 

Did anyone elses heart break when he said "Don't leave me behind"? Jesus, the look on his face tore me apart.  


Seen this?

note: it's a spoiler Image IPB

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txmn1016 wrote...

SPOILER: 

Did anyone elses heart break when he said "Don't leave me behind"? Jesus, the look on his face tore me apart.  

Oh I definitely started crying at this point, and then again when he held Shepard's nameplate in his hands. :crying:

#51982
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devSin wrote...

Actually, now that I think about it, they don't even need to reverse the sequence.

They still could have showed Kaidan walking to the wall from offscreen, taking Shepard's name off the wall with a shot of him gently holding it, cutting to a shot of his face as he's looking down at it, and then the subtle smile. Then cut to the exterior shot of the Normandy taking off from the jungle planet.

The player is left wondering "So Shepard didn't die?" And then you do the breath scene.

BAM! SHEPARD LIVES AND KAIDAN KNOWS IT! I WON THE GAME! TORE IT UP!

But no. We're left empty. Disjointed images and disconnected themes.

TOP: I guess we still just have head-canon Kaidan coming to the rescue, with visual assistance from Andrew, since apparently nobody else is going to bother to do it.

I'm definitely painting a happy reunion or Kaidan/Shepard future piece now.  Although I would have preferred to see them reunite in game I guess Bioware wants us to imagine our own futures for our characters and now that they've given us the possibility of a reunion it'll make painting that more enjoyable since it'll feel more valid.  Painting those images before felt more like a way to cope with depression heh.

#51983
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txmn1016 wrote...

SPOILER: 

Did anyone elses heart break when he said "Don't leave me behind"? Jesus, the look on his face tore me apart.  



That and the M!Shep/Kaidan "I love you" started the waterworks. Image IPB

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VintageUtti wrote...

txmn1016 wrote...

SPOILER: 

Did anyone elses heart break when he said "Don't leave me behind"? Jesus, the look on his face tore me apart.  

Oh I definitely started crying at this point, and then again when he held Shepard's nameplate in his hands. :crying:


When I saw Shepard's name on the plate and Kaidan walking to the wall I started screaming NO NO NO! Then luckily he put it down haha.

#51985
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I LikeTo Doodle wrote...

txmn1016 wrote...

SPOILER: 

Did anyone elses heart break when he said "Don't leave me behind"? Jesus, the look on his face tore me apart.  


Seen this?

note: it's a spoiler Image IPB


*sobs uncontrollably* :crying:

I'm so glad the s/s got the same treatment.  So tell me Doodle, are you happy with the EC? 

#51986
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AndreasShepard wrote...

VintageUtti wrote...

txmn1016 wrote...

SPOILER: 

Did anyone elses heart break when he said "Don't leave me behind"? Jesus, the look on his face tore me apart.  

Oh I definitely started crying at this point, and then again when he held Shepard's nameplate in his hands. :crying:


When I saw Shepard's name on the plate and Kaidan walking to the wall I started screaming NO NO NO! Then luckily he put it down haha.


Honestly, my first reaction was rage.  I was sure that they had retconned the breathing scene when I saw him (Garrus the first time) fondling that name plate and I was furious.  Then came the next scene and I breathed a sigh of relief.  

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"Don't leave me behind ... again!"

AGAIN! AAASsjhsjdhfsdf...

I have very mixed feelings about the EC. I feel sort of manipulated. The ending is still a plothole-ridden mess, but these sneaky bastards are using my feelings for a freaking pixelated character against me.

#51988
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Kaidan made me cry again. That face when the Normandy had to take off...Christ.

#51989
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Jaleth wrote...

Kaidan made me cry again. That face when the Normandy had to take off...Christ.



BioWare is a f'n genius when it comes to goodbye scenes....I just wish they would give equal time to the hello ones, you know what I mean?

#51990
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Pulled this from the Extended Cut Spoiler Discussion thread regarding romances:

TullyAckland wrote...

One of the goals for the Extended Cut, as part of addressing player feedback, was to provide more time with the love interest, and more opportunity for players to say goodbye to them and provide additional moments of connection between them. We did this in several ways:

  • Shepard can now actually say goodbye to the love interest when they are split up at the conduit run.
  • When Shepard sees flashbacks of important characters during the final decision, the flashbacks are now variable based on your playthrough – so your love interest can appear as one of the flashbacks, providing another moment of reflection between Shepard and that character.
  • A memorial scene was added, partly to show a close bond between Shepard and the love interest. The scene is variable, and if Shepard has a love interest in a given playthrough, it will be that character who places  Shepard’s name on the memorial wall.
  • You may notice that in the “Shepard lives” ending, the love interest hesitates to place Shepard’s name on the wall, and instead looks up as though deep in thought. This is meant to suggest that the love interest is not ready to believe Shepard is dead, and the final scene reveals they are correct. As the Normandy lifts off, there is hope that the love interest and Shepard will again be together.

I think scenes with Kaidan were the dealbreaker for me with the EC and probably would not have been worth it otherwise.

Modifié par VintageUtti, 26 juin 2012 - 11:31 .


#51991
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txmn1016 wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

Well, I've got all my eggs placed in Dragon Age 3's basket now. Let's hope they don't try any funny business and kill off our Warden or any of the past companions.

... I swear, if they kill of Alistair or Cullen I'll start a bloody riot LOL!


I don't think they would dare.  I'm still hoping for a Nathaniel romance myself.  Boy is BW good at getting me to love pixelated men.  

SPOILER: 

Did anyone elses heart break when he said "Don't leave me behind"? Jesus, the look on his face tore me apart.  


I cried! I was having a hard time whether or not to pick the destroy or synthesis as my canon ending because I really didn't want to kill off EDI and the Geth, but when he said that, and his little face as Shepard told the Normandy to go I was like "****! Bioware, don't do this to me!" Hell, I couldn't bring myself to make Shepard leave Kaidan on his own again, not after dying once already in ME2 which clearly messed him up... so I'm running with destroy as my canon ending and just hoping that they do indeed reunite and that maybe we can rebuild EDI and the Geth again.

#51992
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LolaLei wrote...

Well, I've got all my eggs placed in Dragon Age 3's basket now. Let's hope they don't try any funny business and kill off our Warden or any of the past companions.

... I swear, if they kill of Alistair or Cullen I'll start a bloody riot LOL!


Omg. Don't give them ideas, please! Last thing I need is for Alistair to die...

Wait. So Kaidan says "again" if you romance him in ME1? I saw a video of saying "don't leave me behind" only...

Edit: played it, but I can't remember what he said to my Shepard...

Modifié par TamiBx, 26 juin 2012 - 11:32 .


#51993
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Wait...so if you choose Control or Synthesis your LI actually puts it on the wall?

#51994
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txmn1016 wrote...

I LikeTo Doodle wrote...

txmn1016 wrote...

SPOILER: 

Did anyone elses heart break when he said "Don't leave me behind"? Jesus, the look on his face tore me apart.  


Seen this?

note: it's a spoiler Image IPB


*sobs uncontrollably* :crying:

I'm so glad the s/s got the same treatment.  So tell me Doodle, are you happy with the EC? 


that is the only reason i like it...

aswel as Tali's one because AWW Image IPB

#51995
AndreasShepard

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Another reason not to pick synthesis is that EDI mentions something about them maybe reaching immortality (I think she did anyway) and Kaidan shouldn't be alone for all eternity, how dreadful.

Modifié par AndreasShepard, 26 juin 2012 - 11:34 .


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LolaLei wrote...


I cried! I was having a hard time whether or not to pick the destroy or synthesis as my canon ending because I really didn't want to kill off EDI and the Geth, but when he said that, and his little face as Shepard told the Normandy to go I was like "****! Bioware, don't do this to me!" Hell, I couldn't bring myself to make Shepard leave Kaidan on his own again, not after dying once already in ME2 which clearly messed him up... so I'm running with destroy as my canon ending and just hoping that they do indeed reunite and that maybe we can rebuild EDI and the Geth again.


Yeah, you know, the only thing that I remember irking me in the EC was that I felt like they were pushing Synthesis on me.  Like, hey it's the perfect solution so pick this one! Makes me wonder what they'll do if they choose to make future ME games.  

#51997
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I LikeTo Doodle wrote...

that is the only reason i like it...

aswel as Tali's one because AWW Image IPB


I haven't seen the Tali one.  Got a vid?  The Garrus one was to freaking die for.  I seriously cried like a little girl.  

#51998
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AndreasShepard wrote...

Another reason not to pick synthesis is that EDI mentions something about them maybe reaching immortality (I think she did anyway) and Kaidan shouldn't be alone for all eternity, how dreadful.


just did synthesis cause i was bored.

she says

"As the line between organic and synthetic disappears, we may trancend mortaility itself"

txmn1016 wrote...

I LikeTo Doodle wrote...

that is the only reason i like it...

aswel as Tali's one because AWW Image IPB


I haven't seen the Tali one. Got a vid? The Garrus one was to freaking die for. I seriously cried like a little girl.


no i don't but i can tell you what she says.

Modifié par I LikeTo Doodle, 26 juin 2012 - 11:39 .


#51999
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txmn1016 wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

Well, I've got all my eggs placed in Dragon Age 3's basket now. Let's hope they don't try any funny business and kill off our Warden or any of the past companions.

... I swear, if they kill of Alistair or Cullen I'll start a bloody riot LOL!


I don't think they would dare.  I'm still hoping for a Nathaniel romance myself.  Boy is BW good at getting me to love pixelated men.  

SPOILER: 

Did anyone elses heart break when he said "Don't leave me behind"? Jesus, the look on his face tore me apart.  


I wouldn't put it past them, DG 'n' co loved all the death scenes and tear jerker moments lol.

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I think any ending other than destroy is just heart breaking with Kaidan. How can we leave him? I cried with synthesis ending after doing Destroy first. (EDI voice over is my favourite though) Control is worse I think, it would be torture for 'godshep' to look over Kaidan.
I think I'll use synthesis for my Liara romance. She's the only romance that I would consider that with, with the whole lifespan issue, better for her to lose Shepard now rather than later down the road and she'd have to live like 800 years without him.

Edit: TOP

Image IPB

We need some EC gifs :P

Modifié par Commodore Q, 26 juin 2012 - 11:41 .