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NRieh

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Has it been established in ME lore that the Local Cluster has been totally explored?

There is a huge unexplored parts, yes. But it's just so...unlikely form my pow that some so good for living and really close planet nearby could be unknown...yeah, I know, I'm being...uhm.. pissimistic. Glad for anyone who is not.

ps: looking at some of those "evac" shots and vids (in case I missed something yesterday at 3+ am)... he has a look of a beaten kitten. Even if take Normand Landing as canon (which is hard to, in ME2 it was stated that SR2 does not even maneuver on low altitudes)... Doesn't feel right. He should not. He's self-controlled, he HAS to know that such kind of look in the eyes won't make Shep's journey easyer..."Night before" and in London he did and looked right...here...like my Shep used to say "I...don't know".

pps: oh my, looks like I'm in the middle of huge denial burst and fighting back my "old" headcanon. No offence, if anything. And I'm also forgeting spelling in all known languages. Probably, morning will bring some more hope?

#52252
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txmn1016 wrote...
Lol, playing in front of your kids was brave.  My husband stumbled in the room a time or two, only for me to be like "OMFG GET OUT OF HERE!"  He thinks I'm a nutter but I'm sure he'll understand once he plays through it on his Talimance. 

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He will.

#52253
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leborum wrote...

Actually I've decided that moving on story from Tumblr we all read a few months ago is now my head cannon.  The one that's Kaidan's journal entries.  Somebody post a link to it.  I can't find it again and everyone should read it.

Here you go!

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Nrieh wrote...

By the way, I'd love to know...how're your existing(existed?) headcanons doing, fellow Kaidanites? Did you have to fix it, did you discard something? Were there perfect matches? I feel like I'm stuck with mine. I did not like the way they forced him leaving both me and planet. And I could not care less for BW comments about " reunion someday somehow". I did not need them to show me their reunion. I needed them not to break mine. Which they, unfortunately, did. And i'm not guilty of that. We held this universe with our hearts and souls (and, probably, some duct tape) before they released EC. We were holding that line, preventing armageddons and other evil things...

Sorry, looks like I'm still too emotional, and, probably. somewhat pathetic.


You're not pathetic. This is stuff that's dear to us. It means a lot. 

The EC actually worked perfectly with mine. I'm really happy with it. More than happy. It's like when the default femshep face came out and she looked almost just like mine. Same level of giddiness.

Short version:

Shepard destroyed the reapers, and is found by the Alliance some time later in a hospital. She's gonna be out for a while though. The Normandy wasn't damaged too badly and they're able to get her up and running in about a month and make their way back to Earth in another month.  I seriously don't care where they crashed. That's my story and I'm sticking to it.

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leborum wrote...

I got Thane, EDI, Legion and Kaidan I believe. And I didn't use Legion very much in 2. Would've rather had Mordin. That slide made me tear up a little. The seashells!

txmn1016 wrote...

The look that Kaidan gave me in this scene when I had moved on with Garrus was equally heartbreaking. All I could think at that moment was, ****, I love you both.

QFT. I've gotta run my Garrusmancing Shepard through the EC. Sounds like I will be bawling like you and Kaidan fan. She's going for Synthesis too. She's way too goody-goody to kill off the Geth & EDI, so that one will be extra sad. But I guess if Keiji can come back, why not Shep? Right?


Hm.  Be sure to at least watch the shep lives video of Garrus at the memorial wall.  The face he makes when he decides not to put the plaque on is nice.  <3

And I don't think I can get on board with Synthesis being a good ending.  I swear I almost let the startbrat talk me into it.  But then after watching the video...the possible sentient husk.  WTF.  And then to top it off EDI mentions something about them conquering mortality and I was like, okay...hell no.  This is offcially too ethically ambiguous for me to get behind. 

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VintageUtti wrote...

leborum wrote...

Actually I've decided that moving on story from Tumblr we all read a few months ago is now my head cannon.  The one that's Kaidan's journal entries.  Somebody post a link to it.  I can't find it again and everyone should read it.

Here you go!


...how have I never heard of this before?  Cue fangirl squee! :o

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Hm.  Be sure to at least watch the shep lives video of Garrus at the memorial wall.  The face he makes when he decides not to put the plack on is nice.  <3

And I don't think I can get on board with Synthesis being a good ending.  I swear I almost let the startbrat talk me into it.  But then after watching the video...the possible sentient husk.  WTF.  And then to top it off EDI mentions something about them conquering mortality and I was like, okay...hell no.  This is offcially too ethically ambiguous for me to get behind. 



i said this like 12 pages back

just did synthesis cause i was bored.

she says

"As the line between organic and synthetic disappears, we may trancend mortaility itself"



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I seriously don't care where they crashed. That's my story and I'm sticking to it.

Lucky one (no sarcasm). On the other hand -I'm not working around holes, I just discard whole scene that I can't stomach.... Only thing I could use it for - one of my Shep's post-war nightmares. Where hell happens and Kaidan leaves (ooh, psychiatrist must be on his way already...both to my Shep and me.. 8P).

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txmn1016 wrote...

Hm.  Be sure to at least watch the shep lives video of Garrus at the memorial wall.  The face he makes when he decides not to put the plack on is nice.  <3

And I don't think I can get on board with Synthesis being a good ending.  I swear I almost let the startbrat talk me into it.  But then after watching the video...the possible sentient husk.  WTF.  And then to top it off EDI mentions something about them conquering mortality and I was like, okay...hell no.  This is offcially too ethically ambiguous for me to get behind. 



I'll have to see it for myself, when I play me Renegade Shep who romanced Garrus. It has been a hard playthrough, because I can't hit on Kaidan and I have to be mean most of the time. No Kaidan as LI = torture :crying: 


I can't do synthesis either. I almost got talked into it, but then I realized that everyone was in the war ready to sacrifice themselves. The geth and EDI can be rebuilt, while organics becoming something creepy like half android can't be fixed. My Shep is into remaining "human" and diverse, not being half android, so she will always go with destroy.
Keeping the races organic and unique/diverse is more important than saving one single race (especially if you killed them and saved the quarian...:whistle:), but that's just me. 
 I would do control, but it sounds too...god like and renegade (kind of like "I am the dictator of the galaxy") 

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I quite like Sythesis to be honest...

EDI talking actually made me cry... Image IPB

and i've watch the "flashback" vids and i'm fine with Ashley and Steve, but when it reaches EDI i get misty...

i never really cared about EDI until the EC...

She's now my 3rd fav

Modifié par I LikeTo Doodle, 27 juin 2012 - 09:08 .


#52261
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So wow. How do I feel about EC ? Would it have been the original ending, I guess I would have thought it was crappy too.

I mean, the Normandy showing up in the middle of the beam run was rather ridiculous, and then... okaayyyyy, the looooooong good bye scene was not credible at all.As it has been said earlier, I don't think Shep would have risked jeopardizing the final push just to say "I love you" to Kaidan. She knows he knows it already after all :wub:

But credibility aside, I was tear-eyed during that scene cause yeah, Kaidan's voice breaking from despair, his look as he reach with his hand to Shep.... My... to simply think about it as I am writing those lines, I feel my throat tightening.So reason tells me : these scene was ridiculous. My 10-years-old-heart (still dreaming of a Prince Charming on a unicorn to pick me up) tells me : you know you love cheesy and heartbreaking stuff (especially when Mr Alenko is involved).So yeah. I loved the scene, even if I know there was no sense in it.

And I chose Destroy. My Shep had been indoctrinated to choose the Synth ending the first time months back, but she broke free (yeah I reloaded :blush:) and always chose destroy ever since.

So the slideshows where a bit strange yeah. Already said before, but the chronology feels wrong (with Shep breath coming at the end) and why are you showing me Zaeed and not Miri and Jack ? :crying:

Oh, and yeah, like some people here, I got Thane before Kaidan. I really loved Thane, but if I had to choose, I would have prefered my bro Garrus. I already mourned Thane, already cried like a schoolgirl when he died. Just don't put me through that again :crying:
And with Destroy, EDI's name appeared on the memorial wall for me though. 

About the Rachni glance :)
I felt like he was glancing to the crew beside him.Like "Yeah guys, I know you think she/he's dead, that I should put her/his nameplate on the wall, but I'm not sure... why do I feel differently ?" because yeaaaaah Kaidan knows better (so does some other LI like Steeve if I understood well).

All in all, I'm not *that* disapointed. Like Garrus, "I always expect the worse, so there's a small chance I'll be pleasantly surprised".
I knew they would not change the ending, so well... they tried to devellop the end while sticking to the original one. It's better. Not perfect, but definitely better.
I am a bit sad that Kaidan didn't have moaaaar lines... I don't know, maybe a little chat between him and Joker... always figured them to be pals... . And we still don't know what happens to Shep. I'm okay with open endings where you can imagine what you want, but this is just still too vague :?
But hey. Headcanon and fanfic are our friends.

Oh crap. Sad it is over. Really sad :crying:
So. Guess all is left for me now is to sit down and begin a new fanfic :whistle:

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There. Just have a Kaidan.

Modifié par Charoleia, 27 juin 2012 - 09:13 .


#52262
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Jack and Miranda do not show up on the slides if you did not romance them, and that is actually a bug. Michael Gamble just said on twitter that they are looking into it.

If you left Kaidan on Virmire, does he show up on the flashback? Because I don't think Ashley does..

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TamiBx wrote...

If you left Kaidan on Virmire, does he show up on the flashback? Because I don't think Ashley does..


no they don't...

truth be told they should be pictured in their ME1 looks in the part about all the people who didn't make it..

seems like the Virmired yet again gets nuked.

Modifié par I LikeTo Doodle, 27 juin 2012 - 09:26 .


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There. Just have a Kaidan.

was just heading to bed and you put it here...cant't be, is it just me, or they DID reuse "halfsmile" animation?

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Nrieh wrote...

Has it been established in ME lore that the Local Cluster has been totally explored?

There is a huge unexplored parts, yes. But it's just so...unlikely form my pow that some so good for living and really close planet nearby could be unknown...yeah, I know, I'm being...uhm.. pissimistic. Glad for anyone who is not.

ps: looking at some of those "evac" shots and vids (in case I missed something yesterday at 3+ am)... he has a look of a beaten kitten. Even if take Normand Landing as canon (which is hard to, in ME2 it was stated that SR2 does not even maneuver on low altitudes)... Doesn't feel right. He should not. He's self-controlled, he HAS to know that such kind of look in the eyes won't make Shep's journey easyer..."Night before" and in London he did and looked right...here...like my Shep used to say "I...don't know".

pps: oh my, looks like I'm in the middle of huge denial burst and fighting back my "old" headcanon. No offence, if anything. And I'm also forgeting spelling in all known languages. Probably, morning will bring some more hope?


The EC fits pretty well with my head-canan FanFic I'm writing (in my sig if you're interested) so that's why I think they're in the Local Cluster.  I hope tomorrow will bring you more hope.  

#52266
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Nrieh, it sure is the famous halfsmile. But God, how I love it on Kaidan's mouth *melts*

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I LikeTo Doodle wrote...

TamiBx wrote...

If you left Kaidan on Virmire, does he show up on the flashback? Because I don't think Ashley does..


no they don't...

truth be told they should be pictured in their ME1 looks in the part about all the people who didn't make it..

seems like the Virmired yet again gets nuked.


Actually, I was talking it over with a friend and we think that the helmet featured at the end of the 'dead people' flashbacks is for the Virmire death, not for Shepard (This especially makes sense since in high-EMS destroy, Shepard lives). Which isn't to say it's not lazy to just show a helmet instead of the actual Kaidan/Ashley, but... maybe they didn't want to go back to the (admittedly out of date) old models, but didn't feel the new models were appropriate for a flashback.

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Ainyan42 wrote...

Actually, I was talking it over with a friend and we think that the helmet featured at the end of the 'dead people' flashbacks is for the Virmire death, not for Shepard (This especially makes sense since in high-EMS destroy, Shepard lives). Which isn't to say it's not lazy to just show a helmet instead of the actual Kaidan/Ashley, but... maybe they didn't want to go back to the (admittedly out of date) old models, but didn't feel the new models were appropriate for a flashback.


I thought that was a representation of all the soldiers who have passed away during this battle...? Because it is a standard alliance issued helmet...:huh:

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txmn1016 wrote...

leborum wrote...

I got Thane, EDI, Legion and Kaidan I believe. And I didn't use Legion very much in 2. Would've rather had Mordin. That slide made me tear up a little. The seashells!

txmn1016 wrote...

The look that Kaidan gave me in this scene when I had moved on with Garrus was equally heartbreaking. All I could think at that moment was, ****, I love you both.

QFT. I've gotta run my Garrusmancing Shepard through the EC. Sounds like I will be bawling like you and Kaidan fan. She's going for Synthesis too. She's way too goody-goody to kill off the Geth & EDI, so that one will be extra sad. But I guess if Keiji can come back, why not Shep? Right?


Hm.  Be sure to at least watch the shep lives video of Garrus at the memorial wall.  The face he makes when he decides not to put the plaque on is nice.  <3

And I don't think I can get on board with Synthesis being a good ending.  I swear I almost let the startbrat talk me into it.  But then after watching the video...the possible sentient husk.  WTF.  And then to top it off EDI mentions something about them conquering mortality and I was like, okay...hell no.  This is offcially too ethically ambiguous for me to get behind. 


Me too!  I just kept going  "....!...!..!.!.!"  It was just too morally...wrong.

#52270
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TamiBx wrote...

Ainyan42 wrote...

Actually, I was talking it over with a friend and we think that the helmet featured at the end of the 'dead people' flashbacks is for the Virmire death, not for Shepard (This especially makes sense since in high-EMS destroy, Shepard lives). Which isn't to say it's not lazy to just show a helmet instead of the actual Kaidan/Ashley, but... maybe they didn't want to go back to the (admittedly out of date) old models, but didn't feel the new models were appropriate for a flashback.


I thought that was a representation of all the soldiers who have passed away during this battle...? Because it is a standard alliance issued helmet...:huh:

Exactly. At first I got a little surprised because I thought it was Shepard's helmet (I was crying after the memorial wall scene), but then I noticed there's no N7 logo on it, just an Alliance one.

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txmn1016 wrote...

And I don't think I can get on board with Synthesis being a good ending.  I swear I almost let the startbrat talk me into it.  But then after watching the video...the possible sentient husk.  WTF.  And then to top it off EDI mentions something about them conquering mortality and I was like, okay...hell no.  This is offcially too ethically ambiguous for me to get behind. 




Absolutely this. I didn't buy it for a second. The thing to remember that even with all the bells and whistles and fancy pseudo-intellectual claptrap the StarBrat gives Shepard, the destroy option is still the only one that gives you the breathing scene! (provided your EMS score is high enough, natch.)

Maybe it's me but it took my Sheploo waaaaay too long to tell Kaidan that he loved him and I'll be damned if I'm going to give them that happiness and then take it away, pixelated characters or no. Image IPB

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Hello all! New to the forum, and relatively new to ME...

Spolier question:

Does Kaidan place Shepard's name-plate on the memorial wall for the "Control" and "Synthesis" endings?

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Tekkrokk wrote...

Hello all! New to the forum, and relatively new to ME...

Spolier question:

Does Kaidan place Shepard's name-plate on the memorial wall for the "Control" and "Synthesis" endings?



Yes ~ shepards name always goes on the wall if he/she die


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Welcome, Tekkrokk!

Quick question for you - did you import a saved game from Mass Effect or Mass Effect 2? Or is Mass Effect 3 your first game?

Modifié par MageTarot, 27 juin 2012 - 11:14 .


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seems fitting since we have a new person in the thread Image IPB

Edit: Seems fitting since we have 2 new members in the thread Image IPB

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