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[txmn1016]

I LikeTo Doodle wrote...

blmlozz wrote...

I LikeTo Doodle wrote...

txmn1016 wrote...

Doodle you are evil, but in an awesome way.

omg why is everybody calling me evil?

oh did i mention the forum i post in has a thread strictly NSFW kaidan ?

LINK. NAOW! D=

kyriene.com/KAAS/viewforum.php

click the thread thats labled NSFW Kaidan

Frak me...

[LolaLei]

blmlozz wrote...

. I forgot how much I like this thread.

I was the same until one of the Dev's and the ME3 twitter confirmed that
it was done to imply a reunion. Still pissed off about it, but it's
more tolerable than the previous endings that gave us nothing and doom
everyone.

I'll have to look that up, but that makes me feel better. Thanks!

You're very welcome.

I'm just trying to track what thread it was in and post the link for you, I know it was posted by TullyAckland if that helps.

Modifié par LolaLei, 28 juin 2012 - 02:17 .

[txmn1016]

Yep. To quote one of the devs:

TullyAckland wrote...

One of the goals for the Extended Cut, as part of addressing player feedback, was to provide more time with the love interest, and more opportunity for players to say goodbye to them and provide additional moments of connection between them. We did this in several ways:

• • Shepard can now actually say goodbye to the love interest when they are split up at the conduit run.
• When Shepard sees flashbacks of important characters during the final decision, the flashbacks are now variable based on your playthrough – so your love interest can appear as one of the flashbacks,providing another moment of reflection between Shepard and that character.
• A memorial scene was added, partly to show a close bond between Shepard and the love interest. The scene is variable, and if Shepard has a love interest in a given playthrough, it will be that character who places Shepard’s name on the memorial wall.
• You maynotice that in the “Shepard lives” ending, the love interest hesitates to place Shepard’s name on the wall, and instead looks up as though deepin thought. This is meant to suggest that the love interest is not ready to believe Shepard is dead, and the final scene reveals they are correct. As the Normandy lifts off, there is hope that the love interestand Shepard will again be together.

I'm ok with this I think.

Source

Modifié par txmn1016, 28 juin 2012 - 02:23 .

[devSin]

The problem I have with that post is that we don't know how canon it is. For all we know, it could be "Jessica's Talking Points for How to Sell the Extended Cut", and I think we're all aware by now how Jessica can sometimes be creative with reality.

I'd be much more comfortable if the writers, or one of the designers (especially for that one scene) came out and simply said "Shepard is alive and will be rescued, and we assembled the scene this way specifically to nudge you in that direction".

I don't want to speculate. I just want them to say that it is what they intend and they simply decided not to show it more clearly (for whatever reason).

[LolaLei]

devSin wrote...

The problem I have with that post is that we don't know how canon it is. For all we know, it could be "Jessica's Talking Points for How to Sell the Extended Cut", and I think we're all aware by now how Jessica can sometimes be creative with reality.

I'd be much more comfortable if the writers, or one of the designers (especially for that one scene) came out and simply said "Shepard is alive and will be rescued, and we assembled the scene this way specifically to nudge you in that direction".

I don't want to speculate. I just want them to say that it is what they intend and they simply decided not to show it more clearly (for whatever reason).

I suspect Casey will confirm it eventually after everyone pesters the crap out of him by asking if they reunite 1000+ times lol.

Modifié par LolaLei, 28 juin 2012 - 02:36 .

[ShallowlLife9871]

I'm still haveing trouble decideing witch endding i perfure for my shep.. i'm leaning towards destroy beacuse it allready sort fits my Cannon...
humm i DID love that sence.. to me it was heart breaking....and i personaly think that even Harby was moved by the love Kaidan and Shepard share...

[Zebby98]

I somehow got myself into a drawing mood today

[Fault Girl]

txmn1016 wrote...

Nrieh wrote...

Actually I cant for the life of me remember if you see the Normnady go through a relay or if Joker is just going faster than light.

We see it FTLing, yes. But they messed it even more then before, imo. Before EC you could just say "never happened" and go after your chosen head canon. You stilll may do, if you wish, or build the new one, but nevertheless.

The main thing is: no matter if they were FTLing or not, there is no such a planet in a local cluster/system. Aeia looks close (and has poison food), Zorya - same, probaly - overlord project planet (can't remember name). If we suppose they did not pass through relay to get to the mysterious "randevous point" - it means that they somehow managed to crashland on a planet perfectly suitable for living, nearby, with water and life, which no one ever known before. If they did jump before wave hit...*sad eyes*, no relays, remember? Not 100% destroyed, but highly damaged, considering post-war condition and fact that many resources were thrown to build crucible - I doubt it will be a matter of months, more like years. And without relays x-sector travel is far from instant. Same way - years, if not decades (on FTL, assuming enough fuel and food supply).

Honestly I have no idea what happened to the Normandy.  Maybe they got swallowed up in the beam and it carried them somewhere . I'm not going to assume that it's Aeia or Zorya.  I mean,  there are plenty of planets in the ME universe that we've never been to.  And just because the place they landed was remote doesn't mean the planet was uninhabited.  It just means that the place they landed was uninhabited.  So it might not have actually been out in the middle of bum**** nowhere and completely uncharted.  

I actually read an interesting comment on another thread. As we dont actually see the Normandy get completely flung, if the energy from the Crucible simply knocked them off course then it could be another system in the Local cluster that was either unknown/undiscovered/secret or another cluster near the Local that hadnt been discovered/same reasoning already mentioned. Maybe with an unacitvated Relay hanging about. 

Man, I cant express it well enough but it was along those lines.

But I just think we only see the power consume the Normandy, anything could have happened *shurgs*

[NRieh]

The conduit scene felt genuine, it felt like it was well done. It's exactly what I was lacking, or at least I that's what I tell myself. . Finally they come out and say it for us.

And this is what I don't like about this scene. It was done "for us"(fans), it has little to none inner spirit and in-game sense. It reminded me all their tweeter-policy - go tweet fans that everything's ok and citadel survived (could they dare to repeat it again?), go tweet fans there'll be a reunion, go tweet fans that Kaidan luvs Shep (as if someone here had any doubts)...

I understand why some love it (it has Alenko, hell yeah), I also find Sbarge acting perfect (as always), I'm myself a very sentimental person - reasons that may make me cry are many. But I don't feel this scene from the context of the game, characters and ongoing events. They..just put it there. And they also needed a plot bridge to jungle. Like "hmm, we got 30mins of play time left and we need to take squad away from Shep, where could we do that? Ah, that mako will do fine, radio Normandy." I could be much more pleased and less irritated if they just brought shuttle (with Steve probably? So that they could give broshep\\cortez LI-goodby too) that would take them away. But taking Normandy out of battle, landing it in the middle of battlefield (forgetting that SR2 can not fly low, that's why ME2 had no makos)...Forcing Shep to make an order, forcing Kaidan to do "that" face, making second "last" goodby in a raw within 30 mins...

. As we dont actually see the Normandy get completely flung, if the energy from the Crucible simply knocked them off course then it could be another system in the Local cluster that was either unknown/undiscovered/secret or another cluster near the Local that hadnt been discovered

Probability theory is on "good" side, yes. It's not impossible. It's just very-very hard to believe that proper unknown planets are always at hand when you need them to crash on, being knocked off the main course. And....and you don't actually want to be knocked out of FTL, I don't remember exact codex writings, but it did not sound good....

Modifié par Nrieh, 28 juin 2012 - 07:45 .

[Mimitochan]

Tekkrokk wrote...

During the confrontation with Udina, I accidentally shot poor Kaidan!

WHAT?? You... SHOT Kaidan???? And on top of that... ACCIDENTALLY???

[Mimitochan]

Nrieh wrote...

And this is what I don't like about this scene. It was done "for us"(fans), it has little to none inner spirit and in-game sense.

I agree with you, but you know, Bioware just wants to get this over with with as big as a potential consumer base as possible for the "next adventures in the ME universe". So the best way they thought to do this was to basically give the fans what they wanted. Don't forget that they originally wrapped ME3 up as it was, genuinely thinking it was good enough. EC makes ME3 an average game, something that is not so worth being all fiery and passionate about as before, so that's good, because it enables players to find closure. But that doesn't make it good.

Ironically enough, this - the absurd evac pick-up, the drama - is exactly what you may call lack of artistic integrity, but surely you can see from the posts on this thread for instance that basically, people are rather happy about it because of the extra LI loving (and the Puss-In-Boots look ).  Ah, but the flesh is weak.

Modifié par Mimitochan, 28 juin 2012 - 09:37 .

[Charoleia]

Mimitochan wrote...

Ironically enough, this - the absurd evac pick-up, the drama - is exactly what you may call lack of artistic integrity, but surely you can see from the posts on this thread for instance that basically, people are rather happy about it because of the extra LI loving (and the Puss-In-Boots look ).  Ah, but the flesh is weak.

Exactly 

[NRieh]

but surely you can see from the posts on this thread for instance that basically, people are rather happy about it because of the extra LI loving

I see it, yes. But I see some other comments as well (a lot of those, actually). We should not forget another point. We were lucky about having Kaidan as LI. Some had Miranda, Jack, Steve or Samanta, you know. Kaidan, Ashley, Garrus and Liara are far from full romance options list. And those who romanced someone else - they still had this scene no matter what. "Your" (I'm not talking about anyone in person here) Shep could, possibly, radio Normandy down just to make sure Kaidan Alenko makes it out, ok..."So be it"©. But "THEIR" Shep was same way forced to call Normandy down for "saving", let's say, Javik or James or EDI, or any other [squadmember]. That could be friend - yes, but....but not one whom they'd call Normandy down for, I think you understand what I mean. Which means that 4 romances had strange scene and some benefits(if LI in squad)...other had just strange scene. Is it fair? Is it artistic?

[I-AM-KROGAN]

Since the ending has been "fixed" i just beat my Kaidan romance file and JESUS! That goodbye scene at the conduit. That was amazing.

[Charoleia]

Yup you're right about that Nrieh.
Now I'm having a difficult time figuring a Renegade Shep with no romance (or a ME2 romance not being Garrus or Tali) with Javik and Vega retreating to cuddle them in front of Harby.
Gaaaaah... It makes no sense

[DJepic112]

[JosieFrances]

[quote]txmn1016 wrote...

Yep. To quote one of the devs:

[quote]TullyAckland wrote...

One of the goals for the Extended Cut, as part of addressing player feedback, was to provide more time with the love interest, and more opportunity for players to say goodbye to them and provide additional moments of connection between them. We did this in several ways:

• • Shepard can now actually say goodbye to the love interest when they are split up at the conduit run.
• When Shepard sees flashbacks of important characters during the final decision, the flashbacks are now variable based on your playthrough – so your love interest can appear as one of the flashbacks,providing another moment of reflection between Shepard and that character.
  
• A memorial scene was added, partly to show a close bond between Shepard and the love interest. The scene is variable, and if Shepard has a love interest in a given playthrough, it will be that character who places Shepard’s name on the memorial wall.
  
• You maynotice that in the “Shepard lives” ending, the love interest hesitates to place Shepard’s name on the wall, and instead looks up as though deepin thought. This is meant to suggest that the love interest is not ready to believe Shepard is dead, and the final scene reveals they are correct. As the Normandy lifts off, there is hope that the love interestand Shepard will again be together.

[/quote]

Arw thanks for this, reading that espeically about the 'shepard lives' ending, makes me fell loads better, now I know what was on their minds when making that scene. So now in my mind Kaidan is going to find Shepard and live happily ever after . But yeah feel much happier now after reading that last point

Modifié par JosieFrances, 28 juin 2012 - 11:00 .

[NRieh]

Now I'm having a difficult time figuring a Renegade Shep with no romance (or a ME2 romance not being Garrus or Tali) with Javik and Vega retreating to cuddle them in front of Harby.
Gaaaaah... It makes no sense

Yea, that's what exactly I'm talking about. There were many examples of autodialogue in ME3, there were bw-side( instead of player-side) preset Shep's emotions and dreams... Renegades were crazy about Thessia and boy long ago... And they just topped it in EC with bw-side Shep action, and not just some random action at some random moment...*sigh*.

And also...Kaidan looked so good and healthy going out of Normandy in a jungle, you know, not even a scratch... I could think time gap between shot and crash is about hour or so. Probably more, if we suppose that after crashing he used some time to take a shower and shave before leaving the ship... Medigel does miracles, especially in Chalkwas hands, I know...but even after few days in a good hospital he looked much more hurt.

By the way, tell me, was it my lack-of-dream 4am brain glitch, or did he really stand on a bridge at some point (before crash, afair)? I can't remember even which part of ending scenes it was. Probably, after evac. Probably, after picking ending. There was no face shown, but someone walked from bridge towards Joker.

[JosieFrances]

I-AM-KROGAN wrote...

Since the ending has been "fixed" i just beat my Kaidan romance file and JESUS! That goodbye scene at the conduit. That was amazing.

Yeah I really liked that too, so emotional, I chose the destroy ending and had the 'Shepard lives' bit, Kaidan not putting my name on the wall was pretty cool, was a nice bit to add.  

[Doodle]

Nrieh wrote...
 
By the way, tell me, was it my lack-of-dream 4am brain glitch, or did he really stand on a bridge at some point (before crash, afair)? I can't remember even which part of ending scenes it was. Probably, after evac. Probably, after picking ending. There was no face shown, but someone walked from bridge towards Joker.

brain glitch

just checked via youtube and the only people on the bridge with joker is

Samantha and Garrus/Liara/somebody else.

[AndreasShepard]

DJepic112 wrote...

Oh dear, you've let the incest begin. Lol.  Seriously though you should record the extended cut scene with this Shepard, he really is perhaps the best looking custom face ever.  Though Sheploo will always be the best.

Modifié par AndreasShepard, 28 juin 2012 - 11:37 .

[Mimitochan]

Nrieh wrote...

And also...Kaidan looked so good and healthy going out of Normandy in a jungle, you know, not even a scratch... I could think time gap between shot and crash is about hour or so. Probably more, if we suppose that after crashing he used some time to take a shower and shave before leaving the ship... Medigel does miracles, especially in Chalkwas hands, I know...but even after few days in a good hospital he looked much more hurt.

By the way, tell me, was it my lack-of-dream 4am brain glitch, or did he really stand on a bridge at some point (before crash, afair)? I can't remember even which part of ending scenes it was. Probably, after evac. Probably, after picking ending. There was no face shown, but someone walked from bridge towards Joker.

Mmh, I don't see what you're talking about about the bridge thing...
I can see you're struggling to make sense out of this, but really, there is none! The original jungle planet thing was clearly intended as some sort of new Eden go-figure-it-out-yourself-metaphysical-crap metaphor. With the fan uproar, they changed the Destroy ending to make everything rebuildible, and the jungle planet is just a place where the Normandy gets to recover and then move on as soon as it's ready cause we actually see her fly away. Of course, the newborn expressions of the squadmates coming out of the Normandy and discovering this so virginal place doesn't compute now with the new ending, so don't try to find anything logical in the fact that Kaidan looks hotter than ever in there (and boy is he hot - but I disgress), without a single bruise.
You know, this is probably easier for me, I only met ME, Shepard and Kaidan about a month ago.
I feel sad, of course, but I'm done with the anger and the disbelief.

I liked the memorial scene, I liked the fact that Kaidan looked hopeful, it allowed me to be hopeful too.
Now, where in the Galaxy is Shepard in that breathing scene, when does it take place? Has she/he been feeding on radioactive weeds all along to stay alive? I don't know, and I sure know that Bioware doesn't know either, so why should I do their job?

In my imagination, Shepard & Kaidan are reunited, I can settle with that. 

PS: ah, forgot to say, i really agree with you, there can be only ONE goodbye scene.

Modifié par Mimitochan, 28 juin 2012 - 11:42 .

[syllogi]

LOL, I am happy to see that the Hottest Male Shep Ever is getting it on with Kaidan.

[JosieFrances]

I hope in whatever game Bioware has planned next, the Male Love Interest is as attractive and appealing as Kaidan