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Nrieh wrote...

 8P Both are wrong anyway, not even close. I'm from Russia.


No, I actually thought that you might be from Eastern Europe, I know Bulgarian people (not that Bulgaria is the same as Russia of course) but well, there are some similarities in the way the sentences are built, the expressions. So no, I didn't think you were French, just giving a hint at the fact that I was.

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Charoleia wrote...

Mimitochan wrote...

Ironically enough, this - the absurd evac pick-up, the drama - is exactly what you may call lack of artistic integrity, but surely you can see from the posts on this thread for instance that basically, people are rather happy about it because of the extra LI loving (and the Puss-In-Boots look Image IPB).  Ah, but the flesh is weak. Image IPB


Exactly :blush:  


Emotions trump logic.   Yes it's weak and opens the "why didn't Harby shoot the Normandy?" but it's an emotional moment between Shepard and Kaidan so logic be damned:  I LOVE THAT SCENE. 

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dpMeggers wrote...

Charoleia wrote...

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Mimi I am french, so if you are too... je peux essayer de t'expliquer le concept comme je l'entends ;)


Salut, yes, why not, je crois que j'ai compris à peu près, que c'est genre, "la version que j'ai dans la tête" pour "headcanon". Et donc le Canon Shep, c'est "Shepard comme je l'imagine" ou quelque chose comme ça non ? 

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Hmmm sauf erreur le Canon Shep c'est celui de la version officielle, donc opposé au Headcanon (d'une personne/joueur/fan), qui lui est celui imaginé par cette personne.

Le canon, en français, a une connotation religieuse (je crois que c'est comme ça qu'on appelle le déroulement classique et officiel de la messe).

Edit : puisque'on parlait de Kotor precédemment, le personnage de Revan est dans le canon officiel Star Wars un homme côté lumineux qui a romancé Bastila. Bien que le joueur pouvait faire bien différemment.

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if I'm not mistaking, the Canon Shep is the official one, and is opposed to the Headcanon, who is the character imagined by a person/fan etc.

In French, "canon" has a religious meaning (I think the word is used to describe the christian mass).

We talked earlier about Kotor : Canon Revan in Star Wars lore is a man, light side, and in love with Bastila, though you could something totally different as a player in the video game.

Yup, sorry for the french talk, people ( edit :tried to translate the conversation so you could follow xD)

 


Mais, si je dis "My Canon Shep" c'est plus en ligne avec "J'ai joué avec plusieurs de Sheps, et 'My Canon Shep' c'est le Shep que je considere le plus 'vrais' "

Excuse la qualité de mon francais. Je suis anglophone.

Also Excuse my French


Oh you don't have to excuse yourself ! Mimi and I are sorry to bring french there.

But, no... not exactly.

I understand it this way : Canon means "what is officialy stated, what we know for sure via game, codex, etc".
Headcanoning is filling the blanks yourself, imagining what is not being actually told.

That's how I understand those words.

Modifié par Charoleia, 28 juin 2012 - 03:38 .


#52404
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New page, no Kaidan.

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#52405
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Charoleia wrote...

But, no... not exactly.


Hey guys, that's it, I'm lost, I'd better do some SERIOUS research about all this, but right now, that's too much pressure on my poor brain. What shall I do now, I wonder? I know! Kaidan flycamming! Image IPB

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Beep Il wrote...

New page, no Kaidan.


Hey, so THAT's what ToP means????
By the way, is there some sort of "rule", that i'm not aware of about posting pics here?

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I uploaded the vid so you can see Kaidan telling Joker to leave Earth space (Garrus/Liara beam run)

Modifié par Charoleia, 28 juin 2012 - 03:45 .


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Mimitochan wrote...

Beep Il wrote...

New page, no Kaidan.


Hey, so THAT's what ToP means????
By the way, is there some sort of "rule", that i'm not aware of about posting pics here?


No, but it's common habit to post pic when someone gets ToP in character support threads.

Kunari was probably so focused on those NSFW pics and thus forgot to post a pic of Kaidan here.:P

Modifié par Beep Il, 28 juin 2012 - 03:48 .


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Beep Il wrote...

Mimitochan wrote...

Beep Il wrote...

New page, no Kaidan.


Hey, so THAT's what ToP means????
By the way, is there some sort of "rule", that i'm not aware of about posting pics here?


No, but it's common habit to post pic when someone gets ToP in character support threads.

Kunari was probably so focused on those NSFW pics and thus forgot to post a pic of Kaidan here.:P


No I was catching up 5 pages back and didn't notice I got ToP.  It's fixed.  

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Kunari801 wrote...

Beep Il wrote...

Mimitochan wrote...

Beep Il wrote...

New page, no Kaidan.


Hey, so THAT's what ToP means????
By the way, is there some sort of "rule", that i'm not aware of about posting pics here?


No, but it's common habit to post pic when someone gets ToP in character support threads.

Kunari was probably so focused on those NSFW pics and thus forgot to post a pic of Kaidan here.:P


No I was catching up 5 pages back and didn't notice I got ToP.  It's fixed.  



Sure, whatever you say.:whistle:

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I uploaded the vid so you can see Kaidan telling Joker to leave Earth space (Garrus/Liara beam run)


Aw :crying:

You know, I'm actually really glad they have Joker that redeeming moment.  He was always one of my favorites so I'm glad he won't go down as one of the most hated video game characters of all time. 

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txmn1016 wrote...

I LikeTo Doodle wrote...

www.youtube.com/watch


aww Image IPB

i think i need to use up some of txmn feels..


Holy crap.  Steve and Vega looked freaking hot in those.  "fans self"

Edit:  I feel like that might have been a slightly innapropriate response.  It was very sad.  Yes.  :mellow:


I know this is 21 hours old.. but i'm playing catch up.  Haven't been feeling well and have had some bad rl drama going on.  I still haven't been able to play the EC, but have watched various youtube clips... and it does make the game/ending more hopeful with a bit of closure.  Could they have done better? Of course... they could have ordered things better and a bunch of other stuff, but it is better than nothing and the original.  I do wish they included all the crew flashbacks.

I've lost complete trust and faith in them and loathe Hudson (he def put is ego before all else.) Will I buy sp dlc? Yes but only after peer review and as others have said, probably no more preorders.  

Side note-  (and hopefull not tmi) I almost blew a snot bubble after catching the edit, I really needed a chuckle, thanks Txmn :)

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Beep Il wrote...

Kunari801 wrote...

No I was catching up 5 pages back and didn't notice I got ToP.  It's fixed.  


Sure, whatever you say.:whistle:


I'm keeping a log Beep... one of these days, just you wait.   :lol:

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Kunari801 wrote...

Beep Il wrote...

Kunari801 wrote...

No I was catching up 5 pages back and didn't notice I got ToP.  It's fixed.  


Sure, whatever you say.:whistle:


I'm keeping a log Beep... one of these days, just you wait.   :lol:


I'm looking forward to that day.;)

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I uploaded the vid so you can see Kaidan telling Joker to leave Earth space (Garrus/Liara beam run)


But that means you don't get the beam goodbye then, right?  :crying:  I want both
 

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dpMeggers, Mimitochan, Charoleia wrote...
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Oh you don't have to excuse yourself ! Mimi and I are sorry to bring french there.

But, no... not exactly.

I understand it this way : Canon means "what is officialy stated, what we know for sure via game, codex, etc".
Headcanoning is filling the blanks yourself, imagining what is not being actually told.

That's how I understand those words.


You're correct on both canon and headcanon.

But when someone says 'My Canon Shep' they mean that out of multiple Shepards they've played, this is the one they consider to be their 'True Shep.' 

Let us say that I have 5 Shepards. Shepard #1, I always play first. She romanced Kaidan and did other things. The other 4 were experiements. I wanted to see how the game looked if I did different things from the first Shepard. Then Shepard #1 is "My Canon Shep" and the other 4 are experiments.

It's the difference between "The/Le Canon Shep" (official shep) and "My/Mon Canon Shep" (my true shep). Indicatif et possesif right?

#52417
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dpMeggers wrote...

It's the difference between "The/Le Canon Shep" (official shep) and "My/Mon Canon Shep" (my true shep). Indicatif et possesif right?


Alright, thanks, crystal clear now.
MMh, that would be "définitif"  vs. "possessif".

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I understand it this way : Canon means "what is officialy stated, what we know for sure via game, codex, etc".

For Shep's part such definition fails (if we talk about 1-2 especially). There simply no such thing as predefined by someone else Shepard. Motives, feelings, choices are player-side (as much as videogame can allow this) Codex does not define Shep ( only chosen background presets are shown). No canons and codex may tell you whom to love or whom to hate or what to do. Untill ME3 comes 8P

No, I actually thought that you might be from Eastern Europe, I know Bulgarian people (not that Bulgaria is the same as Russia of course) but well, there are some similarities in the way the sentences are built, the expressions.

I'm 1\\2 ukrainian also, so that's close enough. There might be similarities, native languages (bulgarian, russian) are both belong to same group, and follow close patterns.

And to add some more linguistic ontopic to my post - I've already mentioned about month ago here, that Mr. Alenko has absolutely typical ukranian surname, that exists in a country, and his name also has ukrainian\\turk origins (and can be found as a surname around modern Ukraine as well, but not as first name). Not that I mean that he's a 100% ukrainian, but hу did have some ancestors from Eastern Europe, no doubt. 8P

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Aoibheann wrote...

txmn1016 wrote...

I LikeTo Doodle wrote...

www.youtube.com/watch


aww Image IPB

i think i need to use up some of txmn feels..


Holy crap.  Steve and Vega looked freaking hot in those.  "fans self"

Edit:  I feel like that might have been a slightly innapropriate response.  It was very sad.  Yes.  :mellow:


I know this is 21 hours old.. but i'm playing catch up.  Haven't been feeling well and have had some bad rl drama going on.  I still haven't been able to play the EC, but have watched various youtube clips... and it does make the game/ending more hopeful with a bit of closure.  Could they have done better? Of course... they could have ordered things better and a bunch of other stuff, but it is better than nothing and the original.  I do wish they included all the crew flashbacks.

I've lost complete trust and faith in them and loathe Hudson (he def put is ego before all else.) Will I buy sp dlc? Yes but only after peer review and as others have said, probably no more preorders.  

Side note-  (and hopefull not tmi) I almost blew a snot bubble after catching the edit, I really needed a chuckle, thanks Txmn :)


Happy to help :lol:

Good luck with the RL drama.  Going through a bit of that myself and the EC definitely helped so I hope you get to play it really soon!

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Mimitochan wrote...

dpMeggers wrote...

It's the difference between "The/Le Canon Shep" (official shep) and "My/Mon Canon Shep" (my true shep). Indicatif et possesif right?


Alright, thanks, crystal clear now.
MMh, that would be "définitif"  vs. "possessif".


You're welcome.

And thank you. I havn't spoken about grammar in a long time.

#52421
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Ah, double post.

Modifié par Mimitochan, 28 juin 2012 - 04:52 .


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I LikeTo Doodle wrote...

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@Graceyn

You totally made my day with that!



you see that idea we had a few pages back about somebody with video editting skills need to make a video of kaidan taking shepards name off the memorial wall

Here it is!!

Thanks Chibi Image IPB


That video is way cool :o.

@txmn1016, @AshTheBrave:  Thanks!  I was in appropriately gleeful when I realized that it seems they were going to try to rescue you.  It shouldn't, but it made even more of a difference.

To celebrate, I manip'd the "breath" scene.  Not Kaidan, but it IS relevant to him, so forgive me just this once:

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Alive

Modifié par Graceyn, 28 juin 2012 - 04:39 .


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Nrieh wrote...

And to add some more linguistic ontopic to my post - I've already mentioned about month ago here, that Mr. Alenko has absolutely typical ukranian surname, that exists in a country, and his name also has ukrainianturk origins (and can be found as a surname around modern Ukraine as well, but not as first name). Not that I mean that he's a 100% ukrainian, but hу did have some ancestors from Eastern Europe, no doubt. 8P


Eheh, now THAT's an interesting topic.
Yeah, I read that Alenko was Ukranian, and Kaidan is Japanese.
But to me, I don't know why, Alenko immediately stroke me as being mainly latin-american! Even Sbarge's voice acting sounds this way, actually that's the kind of accent my French ears imagine for a latin-american born in North America! I mean, yeah, not a 100% latino, probably mixed origins, but still.

So that's what so funny and really, huh, magical about Major Alenko, is that everybody sees something different in him, but ALWAYS hot ;) Really, whoever designed him, gave him Sbarge's voice, and that great character writing deserves some kind of medal for creating such a perfect combo, that appeals to so many different types of persons, men and women alike! It's somewhat creepy actually Image IPB.

I read very often that people thought he was definitely Asian, and when I see pictures of actors people would imagine him after, they often look totally white caucasian and so on... He's handsome enough that people can project any fantasies in him. 

As for me, I'm half Asian, half French, so maybe it seemed unconciously fit that I would imagine him as someone even more "exotic" than I, and of course, with mixed origins.

PS: plus he's very dark haired and with no hair whatsoever on the whole body, so that really narrows the ethnic possibilites Image IPB so yeah, definitely latino

Modifié par Mimitochan, 28 juin 2012 - 04:54 .


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Graceyn wrote...

To celebrate, I manip'd the "breath" scene.  Not Kaidan, but it IS relevant to him, so forgive me just this once:

Any chance you could take few more snaps of this scene (in such bright light)? Especially the rumble pieces at the beginning? Would love to see it in more detail like it is in your screen

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IsaacShep wrote...

Graceyn wrote...

To celebrate, I manip'd the "breath" scene.  Not Kaidan, but it IS relevant to him, so forgive me just this once:

Any chance you could take few more snaps of this scene (in such bright light)? Especially the rumble pieces at the beginning? Would love to see it in more detail like it is in your screen


Maybe not today, as I am already quite behind on work, but I have the whole scene Frapped, so I will take a look at it this weekend :)

[EDIT]:  Ack, ToP!

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Modifié par Graceyn, 28 juin 2012 - 04:46 .