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krukow wrote...

Was the S/S romance that different from the femshep romance with Kaidan? I've never played either, but I had always assumed they were roughly the same with maybe one different conversation, or some words and pronouns changed here or there. Are there major differences?

And I'm not insulting S/S romances or Kaidan, I just assumed bioware wouldn't make them that different.


femsheps get a lot of different dialogue and scenes are somewhat different. s/s is nice, but we get such a short time with it. 

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Shepard: Hold on! This could get interesting!
Kaidan: Define 'interesting'!
Shepard: 'Oh, God. Oh God, we're going to die'!
Kaidan: Why in hell do I even let you drive?!
Shepard: 'Cause I'm so damned pretty!
Kaidan: How does that even make sense?!!


how is this even possible? Hax?!?

 By future dlc he explicitly said even though he is already romanced by fem shep she might not get any new content with him, only male shep will, this will mean less work for Bioware when making romance content only for male shep.  


at the risk of letting the femshep <3 Kadian army rise again and thus squash poor little me under their heels (pun intended)
May I present the following POV;

How many S/S romance options are there for femshep in ME1(1-Liara), ME2(3, Samara,Kelly, Monrith) and ME3(FOUR- Samantha,Kelly,Liara, Diana)?

How many S/S romance options are there for maleshep in ME1- 0, ME2? Zero, ME3? Two.. Kaidan, and Cortez, if I have to explain that due to said Kaidan relations there's acutally only ONE choice, you should find a different thread. 

I don't really think exclusive content like this would happen. Might as well be asking for different endings, and clearly they've made dialog built for both fem and male shep work in the past.

However, purely from the perspective that there litertally is just not a lot of Mshep S/S content in the entire trilogy, that said players who didn't have an avenue before where they do suddenly now (and with a super-sexy main character) yes, this rumor has some logic to it. Bioware for whatever reason decided that a sci-fi Male lead couldn't be gay, up until the last part of the of the trilogy, which is odd considering Bioware's long history of openly embrasing such. It's kind of why I like them as a developer, and I know there have been 1-2 articles from certian review sites on the issue.

Please don't kill me <3




Actually, though I tend to consider them myself as s/s, Liara in ME1 was not considered as a lesbian romance but as a xenophile one. Same for Samara/Morinth. But I agree with you on that point.

Kelly and Diana ? Come on, there are not real romance. And I didn't even know FemShep could hit on Diana. I never romanced Kelly myself but all the FemShep I know who did - did it for Kelly to manage their fish tank (I prefered to check on them myself or let them die, no way I'd hit on Kelly - not after hearing Mordin's suspicions anyway :sick:)

The only real female s/s romance is Traynor. She's the only human lesbian character.

I am happy for gay BroShep, but I was rather surprised when I discovered Kaidan could be romanced by BroShep... I was a little disapointed... because AGAIN a male character changes his sexuality based on the gender of the player (like Anders in DA2 which annoyed me a lot).

Kaidan appears as straight in ME1 : his story with Rhanna in BaAT, his comments on Chora's Den, the compliments to FemShep... In his apology for Horizon, he says that he was seeing a doctor.... (hmm okay, the gender of the doctor is not given in english, but I think in french it was - though it could be an interpretation from the (crappy) french dub team).

And then, bam ! ME3, he turns out to be bi (for MShep - he is straight for FemShep).
If at least, it had been implied in ME1 that he was, I would have no problem with it. And I don't know... I felt like "yeah, he's sensitive, posed, (and he does have a nice firm ass), let's make him gay"... just too cliché <_<

So I prefer to see him as not gay : just in love with Shep, whatever the gender. A bit like Garrus when he says : "I'm not into humans. Just you."
I feel like it's more like his character (and I like to imagine BroShep going jealous when Kaidan peers at Miranda's ass or Jack's breast :o )

In reguards of the troll, it's not even a rumor... just a post here on the Kaidan thread... IT'S A TRAP.

Edit : And then, why can't Ash turn bi as well ? My characters are usually always straight but maybe I would have tried a s/s romance with Ash if she was.

Modifié par Charoleia, 05 juillet 2012 - 10:23 .


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Charoleia wrote...

Actually, though I tend to consider them myself as s/s, Liara in ME1 was not considered as a lesbian romance but as a xenophile one. Same for Samara/Morinth. But I agree with you on that point.

Kelly and Diana ? Come on, there are not real romance. And I didn't even know FemShep could hit on Diana. I never romanced Kelly myself but all the FemShep I know who did - did it for Kelly to manage their fish tank (I prefered to check on them myself or let them die, no way I'd hit on Kelly - not after hearing Mordin's suspicions anyway :sick:)

The only real female s/s romance is Traynor. She's the only human lesbian character.

I am happy for gay BroShep, but I was rather surprised when I discovered Kaidan could be romanced by BroShep... I was a little disapointed... because AGAIN a male character changes his sexuality based on the gender of the player (like Anders in DA2 which annoyed me a lot).

Kaidan appears as straight in ME1 : his story with Rhanna in BaAT, his comments on Chora's Den, the compliments to FemShep... In his apology for Horizon, he says that he was seeing a doctor.... (hmm okay, the gender of the doctor is not given in english, but I think in french it was - though it could be an interpretation from the (crappy) french dub team).

And then, bam ! ME3, he turns out to be bi (for MShep - he is straight for FemShep).
If at least, it had been implied in ME1 that he was, I would have no problem with it. And I don't know... I felt like "yeah, he's sensitive, posed, he does have a nice firm ass, let's make him gay"... just too cliché <_<

So I prefer to see him as not gay : just in love with Shep, whatever his gender. A bit like Garrus when he says : "I'm not into humans. Just you."
I feel like it's more like his character (and I like to imagine BroShep going jealous when Kaidan peers at Miranda's ass or Jack's breast :o )

In reguards of the troll, it's not even a rumor... just a post here on the Kaidan thread... IT'S A TRAP.

Edit : And then, why can't Ash turn bi as well ? My characters are usually always straight but maybe I would have tried a s/s romance with Ash if she was.


I don't think they throw it in there as a bone to the LGBT community. During the whole dialogue on the citadel when you first initiate the romance, I feel Kaidan coming to Shepard as something that he didn't initially have but that has grown over the past years they've known each other. Kaidan is probably more into girls, but at the end of the world he wanted something with someone he knows and cares for - Shepard.

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TheMiffins wrote...

I don't think they throw it in there as a bone to the LGBT community. During the whole dialogue on the citadel when you first initiate the romance, I feel Kaidan coming to Shepard as something that he didn't initially have but that has grown over the past years they've known each other. Kaidan is probably more into girls, but at the end of the world he wanted something with someone he knows and cares for - Shepard.


Very nicely put :D

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http://pixelblock.tu...9/kaiden-alenko

I can see where this is going...

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TheMiffins wrote...

I don't think they throw it in there as a bone to the LGBT community. During the whole dialogue on the citadel when you first initiate the romance, I feel Kaidan coming to Shepard as something that he didn't initially have but that has grown over the past years they've known each other. Kaidan is probably more into girls, but at the end of the world he wanted something with someone he knows and cares for - Shepard.


Yup, that's how I envision things. But the fact that Kaidan is the one to ask Shep for a relationship bothers me... okay he is more confident but I don't know... I can see him accept if BroShep asks him, but the other way around annoys me.
Not to mention that some straight BroShep players who lack opening of mind just hate Kaidan all the more.
Well, that's their loss. Moar Kaidan for us Kaidanites at least :wub:

Edit : I love the Kaidan hamster :o

Modifié par Charoleia, 05 juillet 2012 - 10:34 .


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I'm hurt. I spent 5 minutes drawing that hamster.

Here is something lazy I made yesterday >_>
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You might - or might not be - interested in that little thread:

Virmire Survivor Romance DLC

It's a bit connected to this thread:

ME3 Romance DLC Petition


In very short words: I believe the VS needs a very own DLC improving the romances of Kaidan and Ashley so new guys starting with ME3 get an idea why we, the VS fans, care for our beloved characters that much.


Thanks :)

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Zebby98 wrote...

I'm hurt. I spent 5 minutes drawing that hamster.

 


Ooooh, don't be, did I hurt your feelings??
When i said ghastly, i wasn't talking about your drawing, it's just the idea of a hamster with a Kaidan look, that's all. But your hamster IS cute. I had a hamster once. I loved him. His name was Ninja. But i'd never picture it as a sex god, that's all. Posted Image
I should be going.

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CptData wrote...

You might - or might not be - interested in that little thread:

Virmire Survivor Romance DLC

It's a bit connected to this thread:

ME3 Romance DLC Petition


In very short words: I believe the VS needs a very own DLC improving the romances of Kaidan and Ashley so new guys starting with ME3 get an idea why we, the VS fans, care for our beloved characters that much.


Thanks :)


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Zebby98 wrote...

I'm hurt. I spent 5 minutes drawing that hamster.

Here is some lazy **** I made yesterday >_>
-snipridiculouslycuteart-
 


Some of us liked that Kaidan hamster :lol:

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Mimitochan wrote...

Zebby98 wrote...

I'm hurt. I spent 5 minutes drawing that hamster.

 


Ooooh, don't be, did I hurt your feelings??
When i said ghastly, i wasn't talking about your drawing, it's just the idea of a hamster with a Kaidan look, that's all. But your hamster IS cute. I had a hamster once. I loved him. His name was Ninja. But i'd never picture it as a sex god, that's all. Posted Image


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thanks now i have to post this...

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Mimitochan wrote...

The hamster is still worse though IMO.


I think I have to disagree fundamentally because at least the hamster doesn't have a creepy five o'clock shadow. 

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I LikeTo Doodle wrote...

Mimitochan wrote...

Zebby98 wrote...

I'm hurt. I spent 5 minutes drawing that hamster.

 


Ooooh, don't be, did I hurt your feelings??
When i said ghastly, i wasn't talking about your drawing, it's just the idea of a hamster with a Kaidan look, that's all. But your hamster IS cute. I had a hamster once. I loved him. His name was Ninja. But i'd never picture it as a sex god, that's all. Posted Image


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thanks now i have to post this...

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Yep, that would be that one precisely.

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txmn1016 wrote...

Mimitochan wrote...

The hamster is still worse though IMO.


I think I have to disagree fundamentally because at least the hamster doesn't have a creepy five o'clock shadow. 


Ah yes. You're right.
But hamsters are nibbling all the time.

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txmn1016 wrote...

Mimitochan wrote...

The hamster is still worse though IMO.


I think I have to disagree fundamentally because at least the hamster doesn't have a creepy five o'clock shadow. 


What's wrong with my Kaidan Pony 5 o'clock shadow ? :P

I must say that's one thing I totally love in Kaidan ME3 looks... :wub: I can't imagine Kaidan without it now !

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Charoleia wrote...

TheMiffins wrote...

I don't think they throw it in there as a bone to the LGBT community. During the whole dialogue on the citadel when you first initiate the romance, I feel Kaidan coming to Shepard as something that he didn't initially have but that has grown over the past years they've known each other. Kaidan is probably more into girls, but at the end of the world he wanted something with someone he knows and cares for - Shepard.


Yup, that's how I envision things. But the fact that Kaidan is the one to ask Shep for a relationship bothers me... okay he is more confident but I don't know... I can see him accept if BroShep asks him, but the other way around annoys me.
Not to mention that some straight BroShep players who lack opening of mind just hate Kaidan all the more.
Well, that's their loss. Moar Kaidan for us Kaidanites at least :wub:

Edit : I love the Kaidan hamster :o


If I had to put it in some kind of persepctive, I'd say that since you basically went all three games (untill the citadel scene with kaidan) without romancing anybody, that Shepard was always too busy with the mission and never had time to stop and think about a relationship. The "sanity check" let Kaidan express himself to Shepard, and for Shepard to stop for a minute and think about how he feels. How I see it, it was the first time Shepard ever thought about his feelings towards Kaidan.

I think it's a nice change of pace. Instead of going to other people to start a romance Kaidan comes to you. 

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Mimitochan wrote...

txmn1016 wrote...

Mimitochan wrote...

The hamster is still worse though IMO.


I think I have to disagree fundamentally because at least the hamster doesn't have a creepy five o'clock shadow. 


Ah yes. You're right.
But hamsters are nibbling all the time.


i don't picture kaidan as a

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~see food bowl~

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Charoleia wrote...
I must say that's one thing I totally love in Kaidan ME3 looks... :wub: I can't imagine Kaidan without it now !


I think I prefered young Alenko who knew how to shave with that lovely shadow under his cheeks.

http://t3.gstatic.co...CxWuh1_2d00zN3Q

That's it, I'm thirsty.

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I LikeTo Doodle wrote...

i don't picture kaidan as a

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~see food bowl~


My point exactly. See? Kaidan Sex God > Kaidan Pony > Kaidan Hamster.

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Mimitochan wrote...

Charoleia wrote...
I must say that's one thing I totally love in Kaidan ME3 looks... :wub: I can't imagine Kaidan without it now !


I think I prefered young Alenko who knew how to shave with that lovely shadow under his cheeks.

http://t3.gstatic.co...CxWuh1_2d00zN3Q

That's it, I'm thirsty.


I lol'd pretty hard at that. 

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Mimitochan wrote...

Charoleia wrote...
I must say that's one thing I totally love in Kaidan ME3 looks... :wub: I can't imagine Kaidan without it now !


I think I prefered young Alenko who knew how to shave with that lovely shadow under his cheeks.

http://t3.gstatic.co...CxWuh1_2d00zN3Q

That's it, I'm thirsty.


Then have a drink with Kaidan !

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I for myself, will choose a shot of Alenko and an old LT lager. Think they have it ? :blush:

Edit : ^ " a shot of Alenko"... that came wrong... or not :o

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Can we please knock it off with the same-sex romance junk? Have as much of a problem with it as you feel is necessary; BioWare obviously disagreed (and Kaidan not once ever claimed to be heterosexual in ME or ME2, even if you choose to perceive people who don't explicitly say they're gay or bisexual as straight by default). It's not a debate that will have any impact beyond people getting upset. The rumor is completely false and absolutely ridiculous and not worth even discussing.

Kaidan is going to be at SDCC next Saturday, for those who are down here in southern California (but I sadly won't be going, even though it's less than an hour away from me).

"Saturday from 1:00pm till 3:00pm Raphael Sbarge (Kaidan Alenko) and Kimberly Brooks (Ashley Williams) will be signing autographs at the BioWare base."

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Charoleia wrote...

Mimitochan wrote...

Charoleia wrote...
I must say that's one thing I totally love in Kaidan ME3 looks... :wub: I can't imagine Kaidan without it now !


I think I prefered young Alenko who knew how to shave with that lovely shadow under his cheeks.

http://t3.gstatic.co...CxWuh1_2d00zN3Q

That's it, I'm thirsty.


Then have a drink with Kaidan !

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I for myself, will choose a shot of Alenko and an old LT lager. Think they have it ? :blush:

Edit : ^ " a shot of Alenko"... that came wrong... or not :o


Mmmh... Do I actually have the choice?

Then I'll get young Alenko drunk and take advantage.

That's it, 1 a.m., i'll leave you this time. Goodnight!