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[nos_astra]

I'm adding my 2 cents now. I hope you guys are ok with this.

I'm a FemShep player. In my head I've created a unique character and I happily headcanon around the many issues I see in the narrative.

Kaidan being sort of technically bi now (when he was perceived as sort of technically straight before) is not a problem for me. I can headcanon around this: So he had a crush on Rahna during his time at Jump Zero. He dropped of the radar after that and ... well, who knows who he's been with during that time? Yes, he never talks about his attraction to men, but he isn't given any opportunity to talk about about men and maybe he just has a slight preference for women? Yes, he reacts very strangely when confronted with FemShep's attraction to Liara. I don't care, I don't see it in my games. And of course my heteronormative way of thinking led me to believe the Citadel doctor was a woman at first, but I'm trying to get rid of it. It could have been a man, too. (Btw. in the German dub it's a female doctor, too. Ärztin, as opposed to the male Arzt. Sometimes I have to inform unaware people that in the original letter doctor is gender neutral. I might have enjoyed throwing them for a loop with this bit of information. *cough* I'm horrible.)

And there are so many good MShenko fics out there. The dynamic is different. I love it. I couldn't imagine missing out on this.

Modifié par klarabella, 06 juillet 2012 - 01:36 .

[txmn1016]

klarabella wrote...

I'm adding my 2 cents now. I hope you guys are ok with this.

I'm a FemShep player. In my head I've created a unique character and I happily headcanon around the many issues I see in the narrative.

Kaidan being sort of technically bi now (when he was perceived as sort of technically straight before) is not a problem for me. I can headcanon around this: So he had a crush on Rahna during his time at Jump Zero. He dropped of the radar after that and ... well, who knows who he's been with during that time? Yes, he never talks about his attraction to men, but he isn't given any opportunity to talk about about men and maybe he just has a slight preference for women? Yes, he reacts very strangely when confronted with FemShep's attraction to Liara. I don't care, I don't see it in my games. And of course my heternormative way of thinking led me to believe the Citadel doctor was a woman at first, but I'm trying to get rid of it. It could have been a man, too. (Btw. in the German dub it's a female doctor, too. Ärztin, as opposed to the male Arzt. Sometimes I have to inform unaware people that in the original letter doctor gender neutral. I might have enjoyed throwing them for a loop with this bit of information. *cough* I'm horrible.)

And there are so many good MShenko fics out there. The dynamic is different. I love it. I couldn't imagine missing out on this.

Nice bit of info there. Thanks for sharing.

I pretty much agree with everything you said.  True, we never heard Kaidan talk about guys before--but when did he ever have the chance?  If you play as a broshep, IMO, it seems like he's friendlier with Shepard than he would be if he was exclusively interested in women.  This is just my opinion though, and I think it stems from the fact that Kaidan, like Ash, Thane, and Tali, suffers the mark of being an LI that was originally meant for both genders.  As a femshep, I always feel a bit like I'm unintentionally coming on to Ash.  Even my husband made a comment about it ("Are you flirting with her or what?") so I know it's not just me that notices that these characters were originally written as bisexual but had it taken out at the last second.  I think that's why it wasn't too difficult for me to imagine Kaidan as bi when I found out he was going to be a s/s LI for broshep.  I've pretty much headcannoned like someone else mentioned here (forgot who) that Kaidan is bi, but more interested in women--but regardless, in love with Shepard either way and no matter what gender he/she is.  

Anywho, while these discussions can get a bit heated, I actually like discussing his sexuality in the context of the overall narrative.  It's true that introducing him as a s/s LI so late in the series created some narrative cohesion issues so I like seeing how people are reconciling that, so long as it stays respectful.  

Modifié par txmn1016, 06 juillet 2012 - 12:57 .

[Mimitochan]

klarabella wrote...

I'm adding my 2 cents now. I hope you guys are ok with this.

I'm a FemShep player. In my head I've created a unique character and I happily headcanon around the many issues I see in the narrative.

Kaidan being sort of technically bi now (when he was perceived as sort of technically straight before) is not a problem for me. I can headcanon around this: So he had a crush on Rahna during his time at Jump Zero. He dropped of the radar after that and ... well, who knows who he's been with during that time? Yes, he never talks about his attraction to men, but he isn't given any opportunity to talk about about men and maybe he just has a slight preference for women? Yes, he reacts very strangely when confronted with FemShep's attraction to Liara. I don't care, I don't see it in my games. And of course my heternormative way of thinking led me to believe the Citadel doctor was a woman at first, but I'm trying to get rid of it. It could have been a man, too. (Btw. in the German dub it's a female doctor, too. Ärztin, as opposed to the male Arzt. Sometimes I have to inform unaware people that in the original letter doctor gender neutral. I might have enjoyed throwing them for a loop with this bit of information. *cough* I'm horrible.)

And there are so many good MShenko fics out there. The dynamic is different. I love it. I couldn't imagine missing out on this.

What can I say? I just envy you  
I think a French player said above that in French it's the same, the letter implies the doctor is a "she".
Mmmhh, if I'm totally honest with myself, I should be just ignoring all the Kaidan bits that are out of my main playthrough, and that would include the whole bisexual debate, but I just can't do it. It just doesn't compute. So let's just say I'm trapped.

[txmn1016]

Mimitochan wrote...
What can I say? I just envy you  
I think a French player said above that in French it's the same, the letter implies the doctor is a "she".
Mmmhh, if I'm totally honest with myself, I should be just ignoring all the Kaidan bits that are out of my main playthrough, and that would include the whole bisexual debate, but I just can't do it. It just doesn't compute. So let's just say I'm trapped.

I can't do it either.  I'm not one of those people who can say that Kaidan is straight in my playthrough but gay in someone else's playthrough. I know this is going to grate on a lot of people, but here it is:  I didn't write the character.  He doesn't belong to me.  So I can't decide his sexuality.  He's in love with my femshep, but in an alternative universe he's in love with broshep. I in no way think that's a bad thing.  I personally think that it makes his character more interesting.  But I can understand why other people (both men and women) would find that bit of information hard to swallow--especially if you've been in a virtual relationship with him for years and you're just now finding out he's into dudes.  

But yeah, I didn't write the character so I don't feel like I can personally decide who he finds attractive.  But that's me.  Forcing him to be straight is just too narrative breaking for me. He's his own character--an individual person with beliefs and values that I can maybe influence but can't bend to my will.  That's a beautiful thing.  

[Mimitochan]

txmn1016 wrote...

But yeah, I didn't write the character so I don't feel like I can personally decide who he finds attractive.  But that's me.  Forcing him to be straight is just too narrative breaking for me. He's his own character--an individual person with beliefs and values that I can maybe influence but can't bend to my will.  That's a beautiful thing.  

Ah, I don't have your huh... talent shall I say for abstraction.
That's just not how my mind works. Maybe because my work implies computer technology.
To me, Kaidan, lovely Kaidan, is a set of data before anything else. The sheer possibility that you can edit him, flycam him and so on, demands as a counterbalance for him to exist a crystal clear definition of his being, including sexuality, by the original writers. That's what I expect. Writers saying "we'll let that to your interpretation" is not artistic generosity, it is laziness, nobody will convince me otherwise. If this was a movie, or a novel, my stand on this would be totally different.

txmn1016 wrote...

Anywho, while these discussions can get a bit heated, I actually like discussing his sexuality in the context of the overall narrative. It's true that introducing him as a s/s LI so late in the series created some narrative cohesion issues so I like seeing how people are reconciling that, so long as it stays respectful.

I guess you must have understood by now I am not reconciling anything.
I don't remember much about playing ME1 maleShep, didn't play long. If I was totally objective about that, maybe I'd feel Kaidan is being ambiguous with maleShep.
As I said, I had the intuition Ashley could be potentionally gay, but never had the actual feeling she was hitting on femShep, rather the contrary, she can sound pretty dry at some point, a bit like Jack in ME2.

What totally puzzled me though was Kaidan's "losing a limb" on Horizon over unromanced Shepard (male and female if I'm correct). I was like, come on, do you need an oxygen mask or something?

[txmn1016]

Mimitochan wrote...

What totally puzzled me though was Kaidan's "losing a limb" on Horizon over unromanced Shepard (male and female if I'm correct). I was like, come on, do you need an oxygen mask or something?

Hm.  I've personally never served in the military but I've had jobs/projects where I have worked with veterans and losing comrades can be especially traumatic for people.  I think that serving with someone creates a bond that goes beyond mere friendship (although, again I admit that I'm not speaking from experience).  The "losing a limb" line never irked me because I have heard similar statements from veterans so it really struck me as a profound, honest, and heartbreaking statement when I heard it from him.  

[Mimitochan]

txmn1016 wrote...

Mimitochan wrote...

What totally puzzled me though was Kaidan's "losing a limb" on Horizon over unromanced Shepard (male and female if I'm correct). I was like, come on, do you need an oxygen mask or something?

Hm.  I've personally never served in the military but I've had jobs/projects where I have worked with veterans and losing comrades can be especially traumatic for people.  I think that serving with someone creates a bond that goes beyond mere friendship (although, again I admit that I'm not speaking from experience).  The "losing a limb" line never irked me because I have heard similar statements from veterans so it really struck me as a profound, honest, and heartbreaking statement when I heard it from him.  

Yeah? That's interesting. Mmmh, I think he adds something like "you were our commander, we were your team" or something like that, and so, it made it more natural. But from what I remember of unromanced Ashley on Horizon, i thought it was more fitting. But then it's Ashley not "whiny" Kaidan.  

Actually, I have a confession. I actually felt like Kaidan was being whiny at some point - aprt from the Puss-In-Boots thing that never really happened. It's the crew quarters dialog about TIM, I thought, come on, stop it already, you almost shoot me in the face and now this??? Just get the hell off my ship if your uh... integrity feels so challenged  

[txmn1016]

Mimitochan wrote...

Actually, I have a confession. I actually felt like Kaidan was being whiny at some point - aprt from the Puss-In-Boots thing that never really happened. It's the crew quarters dialog about TIM, I thought, come on, stop it already, you almost shoot me in the face and now this??? Just get the hell off my ship if your uh... integrity feels so challenged  

No, I know what you mean.  There were times in ME3 that I just wanted to shout "SUCK IT UP SOLDIER!" at him.   Maybe not whiney but a little over emotional.  That's the character though, I think.  He wears his heart on his sleeve, sometimes to his detriment. 

Modifié par txmn1016, 06 juillet 2012 - 01:41 .

[AshTheBrave]

Mimitochan wrote...

Actually, I have a confession. I actually felt like Kaidan was being whiny at some point - aprt from the Puss-In-Boots thing that never really happened. It's the crew quarters dialog about TIM, I thought, come on, stop it already, you almost shoot me in the face and now this??? Just get the hell off my ship if your uh... integrity feels so challenged  

Lol. I love how half the convos with Kaidan seem to start, "I've been thinking..." and how Shep's always like, "Ooohh no". It's cute. During that scene when he gets up and starts walking around, I just wanted to tell him to stop thinking... and jump him right there.

I think he's hilarious. He thinks too much. Needs to just start living.

[nos_astra]

I'm actually grateful for every single time Kaidan complains. It sets my poor little fangirl heart all a-flutter.

One thing that irks me about Bioware player characters is how little opposition they have from people that are not an officially declared antagonist.

Edit: I love the "I've been thinking..." -- "Oh, oh..." thing, too. It's hilarious.
Edit2: In one fic there was a sentence about how Shepard waited patiently for Kaidan to stop Kaidan-ing.

Modifié par klarabella, 06 juillet 2012 - 01:53 .

[Mimitochan]

txmn1016 wrote...

Mimitochan wrote...

Actually, I have a confession. I actually felt like Kaidan was being whiny at some point - aprt from the Puss-In-Boots thing that never really happened. It's the crew quarters dialog about TIM, I thought, come on, stop it already, you almost shoot me in the face and now this??? Just get the hell off my ship if your uh... integrity feels so challenged  

No, I know what you mean.  There were times in ME3 that I just wanted to shout "SUCK IT UP SOLDIER!" at him.   Maybe not whiney but a little over emotional.  That's the character though, I think.  He wears his heart on his sleeve, sometimes to his detriment. 

Yeah, maybe you're right, maybe he was like that all along but it felt more natural with his "young" appearance. Ahah, come to think of it, I always thought it was kind of weird having him ask the "why me and not Ashley" stuff right in the middle of the debriefing room, actually you're under the impression that the two of them are all alone, so you can possibily go smooth on him (It's just you Kaidan, I couldn't let you die down there, cause we'll bang later ) and actually, cough cough, everybody else from the squad is just watching it all, ahah, that's just stupid.

Also, in ME3, everytime he gives me that "are you flirting with me" line and look, I just want to break the bottle on his face head 

Modifié par Mimitochan, 06 juillet 2012 - 01:51 .

[sarahann62380]

Hey, I wanted to ask you guys -- Do you remember when you were told you were going to be rewarded if you stayed faithful to you LI? What happened there? I actually really liked the Kaidan romance, I thought it was quite well written -- I wish you didn't have the auto-dialogue and actually had cutscenes and I wish you had more time w/ him since possibly the end of the world is coming, you have the chance to possibly die, what would you cling to? You'd spend more time with your crew and your LI. But those are just my thoughts. I hope to see more Kaidan in the future--

[txmn1016]

klarabella wrote...

I'm actually grateful for every single time Kaidan complains. It sets my poor little fangirl heart all a-flutter.

One thing that irks me about Bioware player characters is how little opposition they have from people that are not an officially declared antagonist.

Edit: I love the "I've been thinking..." -- "Oh, oh..." thing, too. It's hilarious.

You mean from NPC's in general or are you talking here about squadmates specifically?  I kind of find that a little odd about BW characters too.  I was really shocked in DA2 that you could have these intricate and meaningful relationships with people who hated you (aka rivalmancing).  So everyone loves the main characters even if they hate you? 

In ME I think it's a little worse because no one hates the commander no matter what effed up crap he pulls (well, apart from Wrex...).

[Mimitochan]

klarabella wrote...

I'm actually grateful for every single time Kaidan complains. It sets my poor little fangirl heart all a-flutter.

One thing that irks me about Bioware player characters is how little opposition they have from people that are not an officially declared antagonist.

Edit: I love the "I've been thinking..." -- "Oh, oh..." thing, too. It's hilarious.

Ahah I just felt it was bit too much what with EDI spilling her existencial questions on me ("is that a long one or a short one?"), now Kaidan > just shut the f... up now already! But I'll admit he's cute all the way... sigh...

EDIT > yes, I agree, everybody thinks you're the great commander no matter what, all other squadmates are pretty Shepard fans all the way... is that what you meant? I for one really wished there was a lot more complexity in all the character relationships. ME has really great character centric cutscenes, and the original dialogue wheel was great too, but it's lacking in that aspect.

EDIT > 

sarahann62380 wrote...

Hey, I wanted to ask you guys -- Do you remember when you were told you were going to be rewarded if you stayed faithful to you LI? What happened there? I actually really liked the Kaidan romance, I thought it was quite well written -- I wish you didn't have the auto-dialogue and actually had cutscenes and I wish you had more time w/ him since possibly the end of the world is coming, you have the chance to possibly die, what would you cling to? You'd spend more time with your crew and your LI. But those are just my thoughts. I hope to see more Kaidan in the future--

I don't, I wasn't there yet, but I read this somewhere. My FemShep was faithful from ME1.
I don't think there actually is any real difference if you stayed faithful?
Some dialogs are different, Kaidan says "I've always loved you, through all these years", but on the overall, I think the scenes are pretty the same. It's just easier to get him back on the Normandy if you're ME1 faithful, am I wrong?
At the hospital, you can confess about "cheating" on him if you weren't faithful, and then it resets you two a neutral status I think.
So yeah, I don't feel so much "rewarded" actually. What about you?

I'm not to sure about this, sure, I'll always want more Kaidan, but I don't want to break what ME is as a series and a video game. But yeah, if it's well integrated to the original game and not just some fanservice, yeah, i'd be happy to have him reunited with my Shep.

Modifié par Mimitochan, 06 juillet 2012 - 02:07 .

[chibievil]

 


so i found the dogtags that anderson gives shepard in me3, then googled gold rings (the textures didnt work so i just made them yellowish to look kinda gold). The pose aint how i wanted it, but its the dogtags and ring i was focusing on. i wanted it that kaidan gives shepard the ring and attaches it to the dogtags as a kinda proposal. My shepard wears it openly letting everyone know that she is been promised to Him.

[Mimitochan]

chibievil wrote...

 


so i found the dogtags that anderson gives shepard in me3, then googled gold rings (the textures didnt work so i just made them yellowish to look kinda gold). The pose aint how i wanted it, but its the dogtags and ring i was focusing on. i wanted it that kaidan gives shepard the ring and attaches it to the dogtags as a kinda proposal. My shepard wears it openly letting everyone know that she is been promised to Him.

That's cute  , especially attached to the dogtags. This page definitely needs more Kaidan pics... I'll edit ToP...

[AshTheBrave]

sarahann62380 wrote...

Hey, I wanted to ask you guys -- Do you remember when you were told you were going to be rewarded if you stayed faithful to you LI? What happened there? I actually really liked the Kaidan romance, I thought it was quite well written -- I wish you didn't have the auto-dialogue and actually had cutscenes and I wish you had more time w/ him since possibly the end of the world is coming, you have the chance to possibly die, what would you cling to? You'd spend more time with your crew and your LI. But those are just my thoughts. I hope to see more Kaidan in the future--

Apparently we're rewarded with him not dying as easily on the citadel. I personally think if you stayed faithful, Kaidan or Ashley should have flown in at the last second and pulled your ass off the crucible/citadel choice thing. Perfect ending, everyone lives, relays fix themselves, unicorns return, great jedi fanfare, etc, etc.

[Mimitochan]

AshTheBrave wrote...

sarahann62380 wrote...

Hey, I wanted to ask you guys -- Do you remember when you were told you were going to be rewarded if you stayed faithful to you LI? What happened there? I actually really liked the Kaidan romance, I thought it was quite well written -- I wish you didn't have the auto-dialogue and actually had cutscenes and I wish you had more time w/ him since possibly the end of the world is coming, you have the chance to possibly die, what would you cling to? You'd spend more time with your crew and your LI. But those are just my thoughts. I hope to see more Kaidan in the future--

Apparently we're rewarded with him not dying as easily on the citadel. I personally think if you stayed faithful, Kaidan or Ashley should have flown in at the last second and pulled your ass off the crucible/citadel choice thing. Perfect ending, everyone lives, relays fix themselves, unicorns return, great jedi fanfare, etc, etc.

I quite like that. Makes totally sense to me.  Especially the unicorn bit.

[sarahann62380]

AshTheBrave wrote...

sarahann62380 wrote...

Hey, I wanted to ask you guys -- Do you remember when you were told you were going to be rewarded if you stayed faithful to you LI? What happened there? I actually really liked the Kaidan romance, I thought it was quite well written -- I wish you didn't have the auto-dialogue and actually had cutscenes and I wish you had more time w/ him since possibly the end of the world is coming, you have the chance to possibly die, what would you cling to? You'd spend more time with your crew and your LI. But those are just my thoughts. I hope to see more Kaidan in the future--

Apparently we're rewarded with him not dying as easily on the citadel. I personally think if you stayed faithful, Kaidan or Ashley should have flown in at the last second and pulled your ass off the crucible/citadel choice thing. Perfect ending, everyone lives, relays fix themselves, unicorns return, great jedi fanfare, etc, etc.

Agreed -- of course I think you should have gotten the ring, but I'm a romantic. A ridiculous romantic.

[Aurora313]

I wrote this on the Ash forum, have appropriately changed the gender and names.

Loyal romance - After the Citadel date, we get a bonus scene where Shepard is staring out the window, Kaidan hugs them from behind and they have a brief chat about some subject or another where Shepard in their usual blunt/corny fashion asks him to move up to the Captain's cabin. He playfully remarks about needing some 'convincing' which Shepard happily ablidges. Maybe even have some extra dialogue as pillow talk afterwards. Perhaps more about Kaidan's recruits or activities during the timeskip.

Afterwards, he's moved up to the loft and is working at the second smaller desk next to Shepard's lounge chair. There, we'll have some ambient dialogue going on and maybe Kaidan'll wonder around the cabin. Either lying down on the lounge or sitting comfortably on the bed. Shepard'll have the option of joining him for brief conversations/makeout/lovemaking.

In the pre-earth romance scene, Shepard'll wonder into the cabin looking the most rundown they have all game and goes immediately to work, ignoring Kaidan's presense in the room. He approaches them, gives the standard peptalk similar to what we have now. Saying yes - Shepard and Kaidan make love, saying no - Kaidan accepts but pulls Shepard to the bed and encourages them to rest.

At least that's how it'd work if I was doing it.

[Doodle]

txmn1016 wrote...

I LikeTo Doodle wrote...

lol just noticed...

Kaidan is using a SHOTGUN...

since when?

You officially ruined that picture for me.  All use of biotics are totally negated due to the fact that he's using the wrong gun.  <_<

hope you still love me...

[AshTheBrave]

Aurora313 wrote...

I wrote this on the Ash forum, have appropriately changed the gender and names.

Loyal romance - After the Citadel date, we get a bonus scene where Shepard is staring out the window, Kaidan hugs them from behind and they have a brief chat about some subject or another where Shepard in their usual blunt/corny fashion asks him to move up to the Captain's cabin. He playfully remarks about needing some 'convincing' which Shepard happily ablidges. Maybe even have some extra dialogue as pillow talk afterwards. Perhaps more about Kaidan's recruits or activities during the timeskip.

Afterwards, he's moved up to the loft and is working at the second smaller desk next to Shepard's lounge chair. There, we'll have some ambient dialogue going on and maybe Kaidan'll wonder around the cabin. Either lying down on the lounge or sitting comfortably on the bed. Shepard'll have the option of joining him for brief conversations/makeout/lovemaking.

In the pre-earth romance scene, Shepard'll wonder into the cabin looking the most rundown they have all game and goes immediately to work, ignoring Kaidan's presense in the room. He approaches them, gives the standard peptalk similar to what we have now. Saying yes - Shepard and Kaidan make love, saying no - Kaidan accepts but pulls Shepard to the bed and encourages them to rest.

At least that's how it'd work if I was doing it.

Where's that "It is law" gif when you need it?

[Cell1e]

Just had to post this rant I made this morning in the dlc topic. I havent read all the other posts here but am wondering is anyone else feeling so shafted by what a loser Kaiden is made out to be in this game so far?
I have always been Kaidens fan from ME1 onwards, waiting eagerly for their reunion in ME3. So far such disappointment.

Soooo..

Kaiden takes her on a date and professes his love for shep, she does the same, then they have lunch. I finish up on citedel and go back to ship expecting a little snuggling some point soon in the cabin, after all they have been apart for a long time. No go. He stays downstairs and my shep checks on him a lot, he has a few random convos with her but nothing loving, caring or supporting.

WTF I feel like kicking this guy to the kerb!

My shep is going round helping everyone else, telling them to grab what happiness they can when they can and what does she get from HER man? Nada! It makes me feel like Kaiden is a real loser..

Thane dies, where was Kaiden, not comforting shep thats for sure.

Kai Leng nearly kills shep and takes off with the catalyst stuff, shep is horrified, traumatised by seeing Liaras homeworld and people get totally destroyed and she feels like a FAILURE and who is there to comfort and hold Shep? Who tells her she is fantastic and doing brilliant and gives her a warm and loving hug? NOT KAIDEN!!!

I felt for sure he would have some comfort for her so I ran her down to him in engineering and he was there having a great chat with the engineers and feeling sorry for Liara!!!! What about HIS woman??? OMG I AM TOTALLY SAYING DUMP THIS LOSER NOW!!

WHERES THE DUMP BUTTON?

So I pop in to see good old Garrus and he gives her a pep talk and a bit of a shoulder to cry on.

Would I pay Biware for better romance dlc, hell yeah! Cause its probably the only way they will do a satisfying realistic job on a game relationship. Game immersion has gone for me cause Im so upset by how dark, depressing and futile this whole game is and the lack of love and support from sheps LI is the last nail in the coffin.

How hard would it have been to dump those lousy and irrelevant dream sequences and put in some proper effort on the relationship for shep. Im sure throughout history every great leader had much better love and support from their husbands, wives and other halves.

Not wishing to upset any hardcore Kaiden fans, but really would you let yourself be treated like that by your man? I sure as hell wouldnt.

[Mimitochan]

Cell1e wrote...

WTF I feel like kicking this guy to the kerb!
[...]
 OMG I AM TOTALLY SAYING DUMP THIS LOSER NOW!!

I'm sorry, I'm just pausing here, you're so making me laugh right now , and here I thought I was pissed
(...)
EDIT > wow, Cell1e, i'm totally convinced, hell, come to think it too, I just wanna airlock Kaidan right now!
But you're right, its is so very disappointing. Especially the lack of exclusive contents for ME1 faithful femSheps, the non-existence of a proper reunion scene (I wouldn't call the Citadel date that), the lack of specific interactivity.
Problem is, if they do it for Kaidan, they should do it for all LI, and just look at what happened to ME2 LI...

On the content matter, I don't really expect them to be too cuddly, cause they're military and all, but yes, it would be nice to have something "special" going on with your LI, there isn't enough difference between romanced and unromanced version of a character.

Modifié par Mimitochan, 06 juillet 2012 - 03:24 .

[AshTheBrave]

Cell1e wrote...

Not wishing to upset any hardcore Kaiden fans, but really would you let yourself be treated like that by your man? I sure as hell wouldnt.

Well, there's your problem right there. You're with the wrong guy.

In all seriousness though, the points you brought up have been talked about a lot. It's not just Kaidan though. Which is why people want the DLC. Things just weren't handled right. LI should have had priority in several situations but was denied (Pulling Shep up, consoling). It was just very out of character. Overall though I felt Kaidan was handled pretty well. Just felt like some things were left out. So I put them back in.

I was pretty miffed at him about the whole Thessia thing though <_<