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[AshTheBrave]

Cell1e wrote...

Whats the Thessia thing?

After you get back from the whole Thessia/Kai leng/prothean VI ridiculousness, Shepard is looking for a little love and understanding. A little consoling.

We find the Major on the engineering deck...discussing somone else. I have no issue with consoling Liara. She needs it.  It just truly felt that Shepard needed it too. I was expecting it actually.


@Adairia

Thanks. Very cool addition for the collection.

[chibievil]

 yay this is what i done, instead of playing hardcore of me3 with my recently completed me2 file where everyone is alive, not cheated on kaidan. (i did make it up to citadel where kaidan is unconsious).




 
 

 

[Caeleinn]

@Adairia....you rock! Thank you! And just as an aside, another song that is so totally Shep/Kaidan, check out Love Somebody by Maroon 5. Makes me think of how Kaidan might have been feeling during ME1 when he was falling for (my) Shep.

Btw....don't know if its been done anywhere else on these forums, but I took the wallpaper that Bioware released with FemShep and Kaidan and added some biotic glow and effects to our sex god man.

Modifié par Caeleinn, 06 juillet 2012 - 06:24 .

[Graceyn]

dstrawberrygirl wrote...

Graceyn wrote...

New chapter is up: If It Meant Living-63: The One That Got Away / Alt. DA Link.

The subject-matter is Eden Prime, but the theme is the past, the ME1 team, the Protheans, the beacon.  But most of all it's a tribute to Ashley.  I've always liked her, and Virmire sucks every damn time.  :: gives the evil eye to Bioware ::  I hope it's poignant and touching - I'm fairly certain I made my husband cry a little, so I think it is.

*reluctant snip*

Fabulous work once again - most of the fics I have read have been set in ME2+ timeframe, so it's refreshing to get some ME1 flashbacks and Ashley in particular. I've not managed to get her past Virmire yet, but it's never an easy mission to get through. Looking forward to your perspective on Javik!

Thanks so much .  I too can never save Ashley, but always miss her once she's gone.

Javik is an interesting character to attack - and by interesting I mean difficult .  Not because he isn't a great character - he's a riot.  But the lines he has in-game are so awesome (much like Joker and the LotSB story), doing better, or even "different but equally entertaining" is a challenge.  But I definitely have a lot to work with from his, shall we say, "worldview."

Suspicious Kaidan is suspicious:


masserrect.tumblr.com/post/26509277322/tumblr-needs-more-kaidan

[NRieh]

@Cell1e
*warm hearty smile*
...You do realize that all (\\most of) your problems were caused by stupid ME3 game mechanics, lazy coding and\\or writing, and not even close any of mentioned have anything to do with Kaidan's personality and\\or cahracter, right?..

(damnt, I can't google that picture, with Kaidan and line "in case of emergency... use your imagination.")

Dang! I know you're right, but its hard to take when your so immersed in whole story!

Yeah, I know how it works, do not worry - I can't help myself about "hating" Liara. Though I'm aware that it's not her who made those "thrown into Kaidan-loyal femshep arms by a blast" and "prevented Kaidan from landing a hand to drag shep out" scenes....same that it was not her, who made herself mandatory squadmate for 3.5 missions, one of which makes you pay for it (Thessia, Mars, Javik + part of Palevan moon).. I'm trying my best not to blame her, really-really...until she starts teaching Kaidan how to use biotics...that's when it becomes REALLY personal...*evilme*

Oh, And I just checked EC wallpaper and compared biotic image with Kaidan's one on a poster. Those are seem same, it's just Liara has more blurred orb and uses right hand. So, he's holding shotgun and casting...uhm..singularity? Why could not they make him with omnitool, pistol\\rifle and barrier, as his biotech profession works?..

ps: 2 pages to go for 2151!

[TheMiffins]

Since I slept through the debate, I want to put my two cents into it.

Each Shepard is individualistic depending on who plays him/her. Therefore the sexuality is something that can't really be argued, since each person Shepard is most likely going to be different - Straight, Bi, Gay, etc. I consider Kaidan to be bi, but be more attracted to girls. I think my Shepard is bi but more attracted to guys. In others he can be straight, and so can Kaidan. With obvious short comings being the citadel scene if you're playing mShep, but you do have the opportunity to say you're not interested.

Ideally the only way to get a straight Kaidan is to play femShep, but as a mShep does it really matter if he's bi or not? The game takes place over a hundred years in the future, so I'd hope that some human in the game would be bi. It takes an interesting step for his character, and doesn't betray his old character from ME1, rather, it builds on it.



Also enjoy some Kaidan 

Modifié par TheMiffins, 06 juillet 2012 - 06:55 .

[Charoleia]

No I won't feed the troll. I think I've explained myself enough last night :innocent:

I just answer to that particular line :

txmn1016 wrote...

You mean from NPC's in general or are you talking here about squadmates specifically?  I kind of find that a little odd about BW characters too.  I was really shocked in DA2 that you could have these intricate and meaningful relationships with people who hated you (aka rivalmancing).  So everyone loves the main characters even if they hate you?  

Rivality doesn't mean they hate you. It means you have radical different point of views on a lot of matters.
You may not aggree with someone stance on a particular something, that doesn't mean you hate that person.
i.e. I used to be in a relationship with a guy that had political views completly different of mines. That didn't prevent us to be together for 5 years, and our break up had nothing to do with politics (though I sometimes wanted to hit him whenever he threw his political propaganda at me ).
That's how I see Rivalmance in DA2 

(Did I stressed on the point of it being merely my point of view ? Yup people, I'm not forcing it on anyone. Just feel the need to precise it now :devil:)

Modifié par Charoleia, 06 juillet 2012 - 07:12 .

[txmn1016]

Charoleia wrote...

No I won't feed the troll. I think I've explained myself enough last night :innocent:

I just answer to that particular line :

txmn1016 wrote...

You mean from NPC's in general or are you talking here about squadmates specifically?  I kind of find that a little odd about BW characters too.  I was really shocked in DA2 that you could have these intricate and meaningful relationships with people who hated you (aka rivalmancing).  So everyone loves the main characters even if they hate you?  

Rivality doesn't mean they hate you. It means you have radical different point of views on a lot of matters.
You may not aggree with someone stance on a particular something, that doesn't mean you hate that person.
i.e. I used to be in a relationship with a guy that had political views completly different of mines. That didn't prevent us to be together for 5 years, and our break up had nothing to do with politics (though I sometimes wanted to hit him whenever he threw his political propaganda at me ).
That's how I see Rivalmance in DA2 

Hm.  Good point. Lol, the first thing your story made me think of was Ander's saying, "Sometimes I don't know whether to kiss you or kill you."

Modifié par txmn1016, 06 juillet 2012 - 07:31 .

[Caeleinn]

You know, I've been reading the debate going on for the last few pages, and so far, I've refrained from saying anything. I'm not a confrontational kind of gal by any means, but right now, I have the sudden urge to open my mouth and voice an opinion on the matter of Kaidan being straight/bi/gay/whatever.

In my game world, he's straight.  And yes, that does stem from the fact that I myself am...what is the correct word nowadays...."heteronormative". I'm a straight female that plays a straight FemShep and likes straight men.  That is MY game world, my point of view.  That being said, I have absolutely NO PROBLEM with someone else playing with Kaidan as a bi/gay man.  That is THEIR game world and point of view. What I do tend to have a problem with is having that world view constantly shoved in my face.

Do I like seeing all the Kaidan/mShep artwork that was inundating the board recently? Not really, although I could appreciate the artistic value of it and the work and love that went into creating the pieces.  Am I interested in reading the fanfics with Kaidan and mShep? Not really, but I recognize that other people do.  The simple fact is that "man on man" does absolutely nothing for me, but I will not begrudge other people from finding their happiness in it.

I don't want this to seem like I have something against bi/gay lifestyle. I really don't.  I dated a man for several years that, in his younger days, was bi and had had male lovers.  Didn't bother me, because at the current place in time, he was with me.  When we broke up (and remained friends), he told me he had gone out on a few dates with some men. Didn't bother me, because I truly care about him and just want to see him happy.  One of my fondest memories from high school is a conversation I had with the gay twin brother of my beautician about cross dressing and how he kept leg hair from poking through his stockings.  Apparently, with enough layers of pantyhose, nothing pokes through.

As for the sudden change in treatment of Kaidan's character for ME3 to make him romanceable by a mShep, I just have to think of him like another friend of mine.  I found out he was gay the day we graduated from college, and only because we happened to be walking together to practice and we both turned our heads to check out the same guy that walked past us.  I looked at my friend, he looked back at me and said, "Yes, I am."  My reply was to blink and say "Well, okay then."  Mind you, I had known him for over 2 years, had even known him to go out with and even sleep with women.  It took me all of, oh...30 seconds or so to process this change.  But he's totally happy with finally accepting who he is, so that makes me happy for him.  For Kaidan, he might have been like my friend; denying it for years, but finally just accepting it and reaching out to the one person that might have been the catalyst for the change.  (Okay, that is kinda romantic...)

I think my point is, we are all gonna have varying opinions on Kaidan's character.  I know what my view is...I know what a few other people's view is...and it's all good.  The fact that we care so much about this video game character enough to have these sorts of discussions just goes to show what a fantastic job Bioware did when they created him.

TL;DR: We all love Kaidan whether he's straight or bi or gay or twisted or a duck or fish or hamster (cuz yeah, the hamster was cute).  So...have a Kaidan, on me...

Modifié par Caeleinn, 06 juillet 2012 - 08:30 .

[Doodle]

I'm currently really annoyed with this debate...

couldn't really careless about it... Kaidan is Kaidan.. /end of story

it has to end...

NOW...


because it's getting really annoying and if this keeps up i'm going to join up with my forum sisters/brothers/cousins and leave this thread...


can we just put this really stupid debate behind us and actually talk about what this thread is about?

Kaidan and Boots... (boots was a joke )

Modifié par I LikeTo Doodle, 06 juillet 2012 - 08:33 .

[AndreasShepard]

Well said Caeleinn

[Mimitochan]

Caeleinn wrote...

One of my fondest memories from high school is a conversation I had with the gay twin brother of my beautician about cross dressing and how he kept leg hair from poking through his stockings.  Apparently, with enough layers of pantyhose, nothing pokes through.

Why didn't he shave???

And, more importantly.... why didn't HE shave ??? Cause furry Kaidan... nah....

[Caeleinn]

@Mimi...I asked the fella that...about shaving his legs.  He said he'd tried it once and it itched like **** when it grew back in.  As for furry Kaidan...ooooh, yes...in my world, a thousand times YES!!!  Cuz you know, cuddling up against him and he says something smart alecky and you can just tweak the chest hair and watch the cute grimace on his face...what? Don't judge me.


And now, I'm going to go make that biotic hottie fall all over again in ME1, this time for a blonde Paragade...  I do so enjoy telling Udina where to stick it...

[txmn1016]

I LikeTo Doodle wrote...

because it's getting really annoying and if this keeps up i'm going to join up with my forum sisters/brothers/cousins and leave this thread...

Please don't leave me

[Mimitochan]

Caeleinn wrote...

As for furry Kaidan...ooooh, yes...in my world, a thousand times YES!!!  Cuz you know, cuddling up against him and he says something smart alecky and you can just tweak the chest hair and watch the cute grimace on his face...what? Don't judge me.

Ouch! I for one prefer soft and sandy beaches...

I LikeTo Doodle wrote...

Kaidan is Kaidan.. /end of story

You've got a talent for synthesis, I'll give you that
You're my benchmark here, if you're angry, people should be scared.
I know I am.

Kaidan and Boots... (boots was a joke )

You'll have to explain this one to me though.

[Doodle]

Mimitochan wrote...

I LikeTo Doodle wrote...
Kaidan and Boots... (boots was a joke )

You'll have to explain this one to me though.

Title of thread "we're going to need a bigger boot"

thus the boot part of the joke

[Mimitochan]

I LikeTo Doodle wrote...

Mimitochan wrote...

I LikeTo Doodle wrote...
Kaidan and Boots... (boots was a joke )

You'll have to explain this one to me though.

Title of thread "we're going to need a bigger boot"

thus the boot part of the joke

...

...
So?

...

[Doodle]

Mimitochan wrote...

I LikeTo Doodle wrote...

Mimitochan wrote...

I LikeTo Doodle wrote...
Kaidan and Boots... (boots was a joke )

You'll have to explain this one to me though.

Title of thread "we're going to need a bigger boot"

thus the boot part of the joke

...

...
So?

...

just...

nevermind...

[Charoleia]

Soooo....



Kitty-Kaidan... Boots...

....

Puss-in-boots !

[Graceyn]

I LikeTo Doodle wrote...

Mimitochan wrote...

I LikeTo Doodle wrote...
Kaidan and Boots... (boots was a joke )

You'll have to explain this one to me though.

Title of thread "we're going to need a bigger boot"

thus the boot part of the joke

Okay, that's good .  I'm just sorry I didn't appreciate it sooner!

[Caeleinn]

The conversation is one that he and Shep had in ME1...took me a few minutes to find it, but here it is...and I *think* you only get this reaction after choosing a Renegade conversation option...

KAIDAN: We're fighting a gigantic, super advanced race of machines and I don't know if I should be in awe or be scared because they're aliens?
SHEPARD: The turians are aliens and we put a boot up their ass.
KAIDAN: This is different. We're going to need a bigger boot.

[Mimitochan]

Caeleinn wrote...

The conversation is one that he and Shep had in ME1...took me a few minutes to find it, but here it is...and I *think* you only get this reaction after choosing a Renegade conversation option...

KAIDAN: We're fighting a gigantic, super advanced race of machines and I don't know if I should be in awe or be scared because they're aliens?
SHEPARD: The turians are aliens and we put a boot up their ass.
KAIDAN: This is different. We're going to need a bigger boot.

Yeeeeeaaaah, of cooooooooouuuuurse I knew about that line!!!
Who do you take me for, I'm a Kaidan girl/woman...
I just didn't get the boot joke. But that's just me, slow and French, that's all. Don't mind me.
EDIT > Kitty Kaidan IS nice, in a creepy kind of way.

Modifié par Mimitochan, 06 juillet 2012 - 09:43 .

[JosieFrances]

[/quote]
Thanks so much .  I too can never save Ashley, but always miss her once she's gone.

Javik is an interesting character to attack - and by interesting I mean difficult .  Not because he isn't a great character - he's a riot.  But the lines he has in-game are so awesome (much like Joker and the LotSB story), doing better, or even "different but equally entertaining" is a challenge.  But I definitely have a lot to work with from his, shall we say, "worldview."

Suspicious Kaidan is suspicious:


masserrect.tumblr.com/post/26509277322/tumblr-needs-more-kaidan

[/quote]
Wow thats a great picture of Kaidan , thanks for that

[Major Alenko]

Why on earth is Kaidan's sexuality a debate again? It has been covered over and over... He is what you want him to be.
This kind of endless discussion is what I'd see in a completely different thread started by a troll, not something I thought I'd ever see in this thread again.


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