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[nos_astra]

Mimitochan wrote...
>>>>>>>>> After the Ardat-Yakshi Monastary Mission
Bonus from Diana Allers (banter): "Has Alenko had media training? He gave me this steady stare during our interview." <<<<<<<<<<<

I never had that since i just airlock DA everytime. What do you make of that?
Yeah, she says "media training" alright, but i can't help but think "get your hands off him, you"

Never got that one. I'd like to think, it's one of those hints that Kaidan is not meant to be a clueless idiot. He'll sit through an interview without a hint of nervousness, without tripping over his words and ... if necessary lie to the reporters face without flinching. Or something like that? Or is this too much wishful thinking on my part? I've always headcanoned that Kaidan can put on a very convincing facade if he wants to.

[Mimitochan]

klarabella wrote...

Mimitochan wrote...
>>>>>>>>> After the Ardat-Yakshi Monastary Mission
Bonus from Diana Allers (banter): "Has Alenko had media training? He gave me this steady stare during our interview." <<<<<<<<<<<

I never had that since i just airlock DA everytime. What do you make of that?
Yeah, she says "media training" alright, but i can't help but think "get your hands off him, you"

Never got that one. I'd like to think, it's one of those hints that Kaidan is not meant to be a clueless idiot. He'll sit through an interview without a hint of nervousness, without tripping over his words and ... if necessary lie to the reporters face without flinching. Or something like that? Or is this too much wishful thinking on my part? I've always headcanoned that Kaidan can put on a very convincing facade if he wants to.

Absolutely, that's how I see it too. I'm not sure Kaidan would be able to lie though?
But to be able to handle that kind of situations while always staying in control, yes, I agree.
I was surprised to find that line though. Also, I may have been influenced by some fan fic at that point, that's funny, maybe the Manipulations one?

[laikabaws]

@Mimitochan Don't worry, I just found the egg thing haha. As for the texting, I may do so after my playthrough :happy: How about some break dancing Kaidan in the meantime?

Modifié par laikabaws, 22 juillet 2012 - 10:06 .

[NRieh]

Кайдан Аленко From MassErrect via bioware.ru

Wow!.... Кайдан?! Here? On BSN?! In this very thread?... 8P Too good to be true...Next thing you tell me is that Santa's coming back to town...or that they made him using biotics in cuts (floating bottles do not count, by the way).

Mimitochan
 wrote...


>>>>>>>>> After the Ardat-Yakshi Monastary Mission
Bonus from Diana Allers (banter): "Has Alenko had media training? He gave me this steady stare during our interview." <<<<<<<<<<<

I never had that since i just airlock DA everytime. What do you make of that?
Yeah, she says "media training" alright, but i can't help but think "get your hands off him, you"

Yesss, Major Alenko's "stare" is all you can possibly enjoy, bloody paparazzi! 8E

And I think it's not "media training", but what he is, and BAaT leftovers. After what he've been through - some lady with omnimicrophone does not look as a good reason even to blink.

Modifié par Nrieh, 22 juillet 2012 - 10:58 .

[AshTheBrave]

goodventure wrote...

I totally get what you're saying, but technically, isn't Luciano is the "real" thing since he's the real-life face of Kaidan? lol.

You may have hit the nail on the head. Maybe it just depends on who people consider to be the "real" Kaidan? 

goodventure wrote...

It's just great that we've finally found out who he is after so many years of wondering. I don't understand why it seems like we're the only character fanbase in Mass Effect that has an issue about knowing who their favorite character's face model is, but just let me have my moment and enjoy all these Costalenko gifs and mag covers, please.

 

This is actually incredibly interesting to me too. 

[nos_astra]

Mimitochan wrote...
Absolutely, that's how I see it too. I'm not sure Kaidan would be able to lie though?

Lie of omission? I can see that. Tweaking the truth a bit? I think he can do this, too, especially when it's a) the rule or he's ordered to do so. He'd refuse if the intentions were malevolent. And I don't think he'd enjoy the lying part.

Hm, let me think. A reporter asks if there were casualties and Kaidan, fully aware of casualities, doesn't say "that's classified" but "we don't know yet". That sort of tweaking the truth.

Modifié par klarabella, 22 juillet 2012 - 11:04 .

[Little Princess Peach]

syllogi wrote...

Tali-vas-normandy wrote...

Can Someone tell me why Shepard never mentiones Kaidans letter from me2?
I mean he said he had a drink with a dcotor on the citadel and she can't react but if shepard had a romance in me2 he bascially saysshepard is cheating..

Oh man, I really would have been happier with an option to talk about the letter.  Not that my Shepard had any problem with him moving on with the doctor, but acknowledging it at all would have been more depth than just more trust issues left over from Horizon.  

And I HATE the fact that he uses the word "cheat", even though my Shepards never romanced anyone in ME2 -- that was a term that I heard Casey Hudson use during ME3's marketing.  BLEH.  Shepard and Kaidan broke up as of Horizon, and they have the choice of renewing the relationship in ME3.  At least, that's how I always saw it.

I felt sorry for my shepard, first she gets yelled at and then bascially Kaidan tells her hes been seeing other people, and we get no explaination whatso ever or a nice little talk...
I was half expecting the doctor to show up on the dinner date with kaidan I was so waiting for it ><
btw do you think it was doc michelle the red head french nurse

[Little Princess Peach]

Kunari801 wrote...

Tali-vas-normandy wrote...

Can Someone tell me why Shepard never mentiones Kaidans letter from me2?
I mean he said he had a drink with a dcotor on the citadel and she can't react but if shepard had a romance in me2 he bascially saysshepard is cheating..

Easy, another in a long line of missed opportunities. 

wait there was more that was not considerd?
Kaidan needs more screennie time gosh darn it

[nos_astra]

I'm not too fond of calling it cheating. I can't think of a fitting label for it, though. It seems that Shepard hasn't contacted Kaidan EVER. Not at all. Not once. Not even answered his letter. That's pretty cold.

Of course, you could say that this is all the answer he needs. True.

I chalk it up to the way the game handles love triangles in general. Romancing Thane makes everyone look like vultures circling their prey as soon as Thane's body is out of sight.

[Mimitochan]

Nrieh wrote...

Кайдан Аленко From MassErrect via bioware.ru

Wow!.... Кайдан?! Here? On BSN?! In this very thread?... 8P Too good to be true...Next thing you tell me is that Santa's coming back to town...or that they made him using biotics in cuts (floating bottles do not count, by the way).

Ahah, I knew you'd like that  My gift to you.
Although I was surprised by the spelling, I thought it would be closer to the phonetical English, like they do in Japanese katakana for instance. But yeah, I know you're going to tell me "But it's originally Ukranian!!!" ;-)

[Mimitochan]

AshTheBrave wrote...

goodventure wrote...
It's just great that we've finally found out who he is after so many years of wondering. I don't understand why it seems like we're the only character fanbase in Mass Effect that has an issue about knowing who their favorite character's face model is, but just let me have my moment and enjoy all these Costalenko gifs and mag covers, please.

 
This is actually incredibly interesting to me too. 

Downright fascinating you mean?? Some sociologist should definitely right an essay about this.
Anyway, I've got a very simple answer at the ready > cause Kaidan is unique, that's why.

klarabella wrote...

Mimitochan wrote...
Absolutely, that's how I see it too. I'm not sure Kaidan would be able to lie though?

Lie of omission? I can see that. Tweaking the truth a bit? I think he can do this, too, especially when it's a) the rule or he's ordered to do so. He'd refuse if the intentions were malevolent. And I don't think he'd enjoy the lying part. Hm, let me think. A reporter asks if there were casualties and Kaidan, fully aware of casualities, doesn't say "that's classified" but "we don't know yet". That sort of tweaking the truth.

Mmmmh, I would go for "that's classified" (where's that dialogue wheel when you need it? ). I see it as he'd rather sound cold and official than lying in order to achieve the same result ("no comment"). I think he'd probably make a poor communicator, but an efficient PR asset if that makes sense, I mean, good at delivering official statements, but nut necessarily at moving and federating the crowd. Not really... a leader, but I would have really loved seeing him as a commanding officer with a squad, or as teacher with his students.

Modifié par Mimitochan, 22 juillet 2012 - 12:14 .

[NRieh]

It seems that Shepard hasn't contacted Kaidan EVER. Not at all. Not once. Not even answered his letter. That's pretty cold.

I don't think shep could. Because all the coms on SR2 were cerberus-controlled. There was no guarantee that they would even let this one out. And it would let them read her really private messge.

Not that they were unaware of something from the start ( I mean pic on the table...they knew whom to put there, didn't they?), but showing more feelings, that would possibly never reach destination..Sounds like a bad idea, no?

There could be some different ways around, I think. And variety of those can be found in headcanons. At least my Shep found her way to drop the line.

[blmlozz]

klarabella wrote...

I'm not too fond of calling it cheating. I can't think of a fitting label for it, though. It seems that Shepard hasn't contacted Kaidan EVER. Not at all. Not once. Not even answered his letter. That's pretty cold.

Of course, you could say that this is all the answer he needs. True.

I chalk it up to the way the game handles love triangles in general. Romancing Thane makes everyone look like vultures circling their prey as soon as Thane's body is out of sight.

This is how I took his reaction when I did my moded playthrough;

Kaidan didn't acutally have sexy time with that doctor. *you* did. You had your way with thane or whoever right after Kaidan emailed you that he needs time, but that he still cares for you. 

You went where he couldn't follow you, and that broke his heart just as much as you walking back into his life.

Basicaly Shepard manages within the scope of a month the following;

'Oh Hai Kaidan, your boyfriend is alive after 2 years when you watched him die via burning alive, he's dumped the alliance that he's been with for the last decade, is also with a terrorist orginization, has managed to steal away his friends with him and I also may have slept with an alien'

The headcanon is pretty awesome if you had a L/I in ME2 with kaidan not visiting you while under house arrest in ME3 since he knows you were with someone else.  Jealous Mr. Alenko? 

But otherwise, that's a giant slap in the face to Mr. Alenko. 


If you stayed loyal, then *that* is cold(on Kaidan's part). 

Modifié par blmlozz, 22 juillet 2012 - 12:55 .

[Mimitochan]

blmlozz wrote...

klarabella wrote...

I'm not too fond of calling it cheating. I can't think of a fitting label for it, though. It seems that Shepard hasn't contacted Kaidan EVER. Not at all. Not once. Not even answered his letter. That's pretty cold.

Of course, you could say that this is all the answer he needs. True.

I chalk it up to the way the game handles love triangles in general. Romancing Thane makes everyone look like vultures circling their prey as soon as Thane's body is out of sight.

That's an easy one. Kaidan didn't acutally have sexy time with that doctor. *you* did. You had your way with thane or whoever right after Kaidan emailed you that he needs time, but that he still cares for you.

Kaidan said he needed time. You went where he couldn't follow you, and that broke his heart just as much as you walking back into his life. He needed time, just like in normal relationships. The headcanon is pretty awesome if you had a L/I in ME2 with kaidan not visiting you while under house arrest in ME3 since he knows you were with someone else.  Jealous Mr. Alenko? 


If you stayed loyal, then *that* is cold(on Kaidan's part). 

As much as my heart sank seeing Alenko literally turn his back on my Shep on Horizon, I'm really satisfied by the whole relationship handling in ME2. Ah, and my Shep stayed loyal. Of course, you don't get to see Shep contacting Alenko, but the "none of your damned business" with TIM, and "I care about him" with Chambers, plus the picture thing before suicide mission, I think it tells the story properly. The lines with Joker though, I think you can't escape saying "he's moved on", and that broke my heart...  I think there's a lot of space here to easily fit unsaid and unseen things. Also, with all the things happening, you actually have that "this is war, there's no time for personal feelings here and now".

Also, I'm OK with Kaidan staying away from Shep until ME3, I had my revenge with Renegade options on meeting him at Vancouver  

Loved the dialogues on Mars, but from then on, I feel the hospital scenes feel disconnected from my playthrough, because they're too "neutral".

I was disappointed by the way Kaidan speaks of their ME1 relationship in particular, it sounds very anecdotic, as if he was amnesic or something. All in all, I guess I REALLY missed a genuine reunion scene with Alenko. I thought that would be the "reward", after the sheer pain it was not having him around during an ENTIRE game!!

Modifié par Mimitochan, 22 juillet 2012 - 12:22 .

[nos_astra]

Nrieh wrote...
I don't think shep could. Because all the coms on SR2 were cerberus-controlled. There was no guarantee that they would even let this one out. And it would let them read her really private messge.

But ... but this is Commander Shepard who just came back from the dead and can freely contact Anderson and the Council. Claiming that contacting Kaidan (or Ashley) would have been almost impossible when contacting their superiors is no problem ... I don't know.

There could be some different ways around, I think. And variety of those can be found in headcanons. At least my Shep found her way to drop the line.

I prefer to lay some of the blame on Shepard. The character is so over-the-top special and awesome that one or two flaws really don't hurt her and make her more relatable and likeable. She screwed up on Horizon, for once out of her depth and unable to say what she wanted to say, just as much as Kaidan, for once unable to keep his anger in check.

If I don't accept that Shepard did something wrong and hurtful (without meaning to and under very unique circumstances, of course) you put Kaidan in a situation where he single-handedly endangered a potentially continuable relationship with a series of screw-ups:
a) accusations on Horizon
a very (too?) cautious letter that Shepard might have gotten wrong
c) not contacting Shepard during her time under arrest (or at any point after the apology letter)
d) still hesitant to trust Shepard on Mars (makes more sense if Shepard really closed herself/himself off instead of reaching out)

I have no problem saying that my Shepard handled the relationship thing very poorly. It balances things out a bit and I prefer that.

Ok. Why am I writing this and how does it help with the "cheating" thing? It's incredibly stupid to assume there is a relationship, so the cheating accusation is extremely silly in this headcanon
scenario. (Still choose the renegade answers on Mars because that's how my Shepard rolls.)

That's probably why my headcanon says: If my Shepard wanted an itch
scratched she'd have a one night stand with a stranger instead of hooking up with someone from her crew. She's not really one for longterm relationships anyway (unless the guy's name is Kaidan Alenko and he somehow managed to get past her defences). Kaidan doesn't need to know. He can have more than a few drinks with that doctor on the Citadel.

I should put up a warning: My headcanon will cause confusion in discussions! Sorry.

I'll post this anyway ... for science.

Edit:
@blmlozz Awesome headcanon!

Modifié par klarabella, 22 juillet 2012 - 12:37 .

[Doodle]

[nos_astra]

Mimitochan wrote...
Mmmmh, I would go for "that's classified" (where's that dialogue wheel when you need it? ). I see it as he'd rather sound cold and official than lying in order to achieve the same result ("no comment"). I think he'd probably make a poor communicator, but an efficient PR asset if that makes sense, I mean, good at delivering official statements, but nut necessarily at moving and federating the crowd. Not really... a leader, but I would have really loved seeing him as a commanding officer with a squad, or as teacher with his students.

Hmmm, I agree. He'd probably just go for "that's classified" (I might have sprained a synapse or two, trying to come up with a scenerio where you would prefer a lie to a professional non-answer) and ... the bolded part: YES!

Edit: Talking about sprained synapses, I need to repost this:

Modifié par klarabella, 22 juillet 2012 - 12:39 .

[Mimitochan]

Nrieh wrote...

It seems that Shepard hasn't contacted Kaidan EVER. Not at all. Not once. Not even answered his letter. That's pretty cold.

I don't think shep could. Because all the coms on SR2 were cerberus-controlled. There was no guarantee that they would even let this one out. And it would let them read her really private messge.

Not that they were unaware of something from the start ( I mean pic on the table...they knew whom to put there, didn't they?), but showing more feelings, that would possibly never reach destination..Sounds like a bad idea, no?

Ahah, never thought about that pic!  Do you think Miranda picked it up herself and chose the frame too??
I don't see it at put there by Cerberus, but by Shep herself, you know, between two cutscenes.

Also, my faithful Shep is absolutely bad with relationships. She's always so focused by the job that needs to be done, she'd rather always put her personal feelings aside and don't indulge in any kind of relationship. With the exception of Alenko, that is. So when Kaidan turned his back on her, as much as it hurt, she thought it would make her task easier and that there would be time later to worry about it, or not. So she never tried to contact Alenko, all the more after the letter. 

As things calmed down (what happened exactly during those months, I don't really care, cause I didn't buy any DLC, comics, novels, and so on) and time went by, this stayed as unfinished business, and both of them were relunctant and / or too busy to deal with it, for fear of making things worse, or for fear of the relationship itself, until they were forced to meet again in Vancouver.

Makes perfect sense to my headcanon, that's why I so love the "you were always stubborn" part.
But clearly, the hospital stuff feels really disconnected.

Of course, in that case, the cheating part has no place whatsoever.
My Shep doesn't have time for casual sex.

klarabella wrote...
Hmmm, I agree. He'd probably just go for "that's classified" (I might have sprained a synapse or two, trying to come up with a scenerio where you would prefer a lie to a professional non-answer) and ... the bolded part: YES!

That's what happens when you try too hard, you succeed

Edit: Talking about sprained synapses, I need to repost this:

I KNOW, right?
The guy is talking to Liara at the moment.
How come she didn't melt into some sort of blue jelly already, I fail to understand.

I LikeTo Doodle wrote...

What's happening to you?

Modifié par Mimitochan, 22 juillet 2012 - 12:59 .

[Doodle]

Mimitochan wrote...

I LikeTo Doodle wrote...

What's happening to you?

nothing...

[blmlozz]

As much as my heart sank seeing Alenko literally turn his back on my Shep on Horizon, I'm really satisfied by the whole relationship handling in ME2. Ah, and my Shep stayed loyal. Of course, you don't get to see Shep contacting Alenko, but the "none of your damned business" with TIM, and "I care about him" with Chambers, plus the picture thing before suicide mission, I think it tells the story properly.

exactly. I think they handled this perfectly, all the small chit-chat is perfect now that all 3 games are out and we have more Kaidan time in ME3. The inuendo of all of it is very romantic. When all we had *was* the banter though. Yeah, might as well have been Chinese water tourture. 

I don't see it at put there by Cerberus, but by Shep herself, you know, between two cutscenes.

I miss the picture frame in ME3... There's a blank one on the table. WTF BW?

I'm pretty sure someone's done a textmod for that frame somewhere burried deep in the abyss of textmoders on the BSN.

But clearly, the hospital stuff feels really disconnected.

It does feel a bit odd when I watch the femshep accusations of having a ME2 L/I or other general talk. The character model's are not particularly good in any of those scenes which doesn't help, for Femshep or Kaidan. They're just not designed to lay down, I feel like everytime he twitches there's an invisible pillow somewhere I need to stuff back there.

Ashley's conversations aren't any better though from what I've seen. .

what happened exactly during those months, I don't really care, cause I didn't buy any DLC, comics, novels, and so on 

The house arrest was due to the Arrivial DLC. You lob a giant asteroid into a mass relay to prevent an early reaper invasion but you kill 300K batarians in the process. You're under house arrest for that instead of being hanged/thrown in jail. Arrivial is also why everyone freaked out about the ending and the relays being destoryed, because in Arrivial, the destruction of a mass relay destroys an entire solar system. 

Modifié par blmlozz, 22 juillet 2012 - 01:09 .

[NRieh]

n, I'm really satisfied by the whole relationship handling in ME2. Ah, and my Shep stayed loyal. Of course, you don't get to see Shep contacting Alenko, but the "none of your damned business" with TIM, and "I care about him" with Chambers, plus the picture thing before suicide mission, I think it tells the story properly.

You know, as much as I hated my first Horizon-1, later I understood that it was right thing to happen.

Yes - it's unpopular way - to take away LI, and it also had some obvious commercial reasons (now raise your hands, who would preoder\\buy ME3 knowing Alenko is NOT there, neither as squad nor as LI?...) But if they followed fanservice way...you know what I mean. There would be no character, no conflict, but moar sex. Horizon and rest of ME2 served them both well, I think. No matter how hard I dislike some of Horizon lines.

The lines with Joker though, I think you can't escape saying "he's moved on", and that broke my heart...

Yeah, those hurt me even more then Horizon itself on my first run. I mean...Jeeff could understand what happened, and he's probably one who should care, not Kelly. Yeah, I know there was conflict between Kaidan and Joker after SR1 crash. But that did not involve Joker-Shepard friendship much. He should've supported her, and she could've talked to him. And say something more real than any of those lines.

I was disappointed by the way Kaidan speaks of their ME1 relationship in particular, it sounds very anecdotic.

Well, we know that Casey Hudson thinks all Shepards have private life just once per game, before the final mission, don't we? And this is the only purpose of LI. 8E

ps:

Although I was surprised by the spelling, I thought it would be closer to the phonetical English

In russian "official" localization his name is actually spelled "Кайден" ['kajdən], but most of fanbase goes after "Кайдан" ['kajdæn] version. And both Hale and Meer is unfamiliar with non-englified pronounce, so rest of the world thinks that he's more something like ['kejdən].

And... yes, his surname still ukrainian, I can't help it. No matter what brazillian guys share his face and where did mom and dad Alenko grew up ;P

[NRieh]

Ahah, never thought about that pic! Do you think Miranda picked it up herself and chose the frame too??

I think they could, they picked familir crew, they wanted her to feel comfortable, and at the same time - show her who's big boss here.

For me it was like "yeah, we know you need familiar faces, so - here's your Joker, and Chalkwas, and oh...we thought you would enjoy your cabin, including that pic, you know, and big aquarium and some music, that helps you to relax and have peace of mind...so that you could do what WE need you to".

[blmlozz]

For me it was like "yeah, we know you need familiar faces, so - here's your Joker, and Chalkwas, and oh...we thought you would enjoy your cabin, including that pic, you know, and big aquarium and some music, that helps you to relax and have peace of mind...so that you could do what WE need you to".

That's one of the plot twists I didn't get at all in ME2/ME3, it was only until the Cronos recordings did the whole sadistic scheme unfold for me to understand. Jacob and Miranda didn't have the aurora of puppet master over Shepard from what I could tell, and TIM appeared to be genuine in letting Shepard do his own thing, because that's what he wanted. He didn't want a giant gadget with a stop button, he wanted Shepard. As far as I was concerned, the Luxury of the SR-2 was simply because it was (on a basic level) a civilian engineered vessel with the goal to improve on the SR-1. 

TIM went from 'I shouldn't deal with this guy, but he *is* helping me, so maybe I can trust him' in ME2  to out-right Genius mad-man in ME3. 

Modifié par blmlozz, 22 juillet 2012 - 01:28 .

[Mimitochan]

blmlozz wrote...

As much as my heart sank seeing Alenko literally turn his back on my Shep on Horizon, I'm really satisfied by the whole relationship handling in ME2. Ah, and my Shep stayed loyal. Of course, you don't get to see Shep contacting Alenko, but the "none of your damned business" with TIM, and "I care about him" with Chambers, plus the picture thing before suicide mission, I think it tells the story properly.

exactly. I think they handled this perfectly, all the small chit-chat is perfect now that all 3 games are out and we have more Kaidan time in ME3. The inuendo of all of it is very romantic. When all we had *was* the banter though. Yeah, might as well have been Chinese water tourture. 

Don't remind me. I think I may have lost a few pounds during my first ME2 playthrough! Still... I SO wanted a reunion scene!

I miss the picture frame in ME3... There's a blank one on the table. WTF BW?

Ahah, really?? I never noticed that. Why a blank one??? Maybe there's an easter egg. Or maybe BW is being sadistic. Or maybe it's a... METAPHOR!!!

The character model's are not particularly good in any of those scenes which doesn't help, for Femshep or Kaidan. They're just not designed to lay down, I feel like everytime he twitches there's an invisible pillow somewhere I need to stuff back there.

Poor Kaidan looks like his very favourite food in there... steak!
Ahah, no, you didn't get it, Alenko is ab exercizing, that's all!

The house arrest was due to the Arrivial DLC. You lob a giant asteroid into a mass relay to prevent an early reaper invasion but you kill 300K batarians in the process. You're under house arrest for that instead of being hanged/thrown in jail. Arrivial is also why everyone freaked out about the ending and the relays being destoryed, because in Arrivial, the destruction of a mass relay destroys an entire solar system. 

Yeah, I read that, thanks for explaining in detail. I didn't know about the solar system thing. But Shep is supposed to be under arrest even though you didn't play Arrival. And if you didn't play Arrival, Arrival didn't happen (at least with you as a protagonist). So Shep is supposed to be grounded because of her Cerberus connexions - and that makes sense with my headcanon, Alenko being almost afraid to face her as a "Cerberus enemy". But Liara seriously?? "I meant to come and see you..."  

Modifié par Mimitochan, 22 juillet 2012 - 01:36 .

[blmlozz]

 

[Ahah, really?? I never noticed that. Why a blank one??? Maybe there's an easter egg. Or maybe BW is being sadistic. Or maybe it's a... METAPHOR!!!

lolI think it was just something that was tabled at the last second. It's on the desk near your bed, it's not in the office by the models like the one in ME2. 

Yeah, I read that, thanks for explaining in detail. I didn't know about the solar system thing. But Shep is supposed to be under arrest even though you didn't play Arrival. And if you didn't play Arrival, Arrival didn't happen (at least with you as a protagonist). So Shep is supposed to be grounded because of her Cerberus connexions - and that makes sense with my headcanon, Alenko being almost afraid to face her as a "Cerberus enemy". But Liara seriously?? "I meant to come and see you..."

yup, they handled that one very nicely either way. 
Liara just uses Shepard, the only time you ever see her is when she needs something from you <_<


woot! My first TOP. hmmm

For my Mshenko people, some silvermat;



I won't forget the femsheps I suppose <_<

some rare shenko stone lions. 

Modifié par blmlozz, 22 juillet 2012 - 01:38 .