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[Doodle]

Mimitochan wrote...

I LikeTo Doodle wrote...

Mimitochan wrote...

I LikeTo Doodle wrote...

Kunari801 wrote...

Keep this up Doodles and you will have to think that "Forever alone" policy of yours. It's good to see actually.

"Forever alone" policy of mine, yeah...

not re-thinking that

You're not alone... Look, there's Kaidan and huh... my my, quite a long string of Costas!

Cleansing power in action vvv

-picturegonedoodlesadnow-

I don't care for Costa.

Then why did you remove it silly? I picked it especially for you, you know.
I know your tastes. You don't care for Costa. That makes them good

i removed it so it wouldn't make the page bigger...

Modifié par I LikeTo Doodle, 24 juillet 2012 - 07:34 .

[NRieh]

He is real

Nope. He's not. But he...wears this face, if that's what you mean. Yes.

I don't care for Costa.

*types while husband is not watching and ME is turned off*
I know I never said this, but... I luv ya, Doodle. <-)

[Mimitochan]

I LikeTo Doodle wrote...

Mimitochan wrote...

I LikeTo Doodle wrote...

Mimitochan wrote...

I LikeTo Doodle wrote...

Kunari801 wrote...

Keep this up Doodles and you will have to think that "Forever alone" policy of yours. It's good to see actually.

"Forever alone" policy of mine, yeah...

not re-thinking that

You're not alone... Look, there's Kaidan and huh... my my, quite a long string of Costas!

Cleansing power in action vvv

-picturegonedoodlesadnow-

I don't care for Costa.

Then why did you remove it silly? I picked it especially for you, you know.
I know your tastes. You don't care for Costa. That makes them good

i removed it so it wouldn't make the page bigger...

You're a kind soul. But there's always extra space on a page for Kaidan hotness. 

[Doodle]

Mimitochan wrote...

*focuses*

so when do i get to be in your pants?

[Mimitochan]

I LikeTo Doodle wrote...

*focuses*

so when do i get to be in your pants?

... That... would totally make the turret tutorial worthwhile
Hey, Shepard, you now know how to roll to cover, now...



PS.: I had to check this, Doodle, you're my slang teacher alright.

[Mimitochan]

Eloise K wrote...
Plus the voice actor wasn't as good as he was in ME1, to the point that even the Italian voice actor did a better job this time and slightly improves the flaws I mentioned.

Oooooh, this is... this is popcorn fabric!
Just kidding, I think, but may be wrong, that everybody here just loves Sbarge's V/O.

Modifié par Mimitochan, 24 juillet 2012 - 08:07 .

[Doodle]

Eloise K wrote...
Plus the voice actor wasn't as good as he was in ME1, to the point that even the Italian voice actor did a better job this time and slightly improves the flaws I mentioned.

OOOhhh...

this... i have to see what happens next

*gets a chair*

Modifié par I LikeTo Doodle, 24 juillet 2012 - 08:15 .

[shepskisaac]

Eloise K wrote...

He also talks about his family and students, you are correct, but, well - I don't know if I can express my feelings/opinions in proper English -  but to me he was dull: the way he talks,  he talks and talks but never say something meaningful or even remotely touching. Yes, he has concerns about his father and his biotic kids, but I never felt empathically connected to him like I was in ME1 when he told me the story about Rana and the Turian guy. Plus the voice actor wasn't as good as he was in ME1, to the point that even the Italian voice actor did a better job this time and slightly improves the flaws I mentioned.
(the video is out of sync the game is not, I think)

In conclusion the interaction between my Shepard and him wasn't satisfying, surely the auto-dialogue mode didn't help, but the relationship between the two was like two people talking to themselves rather than talking to each other... I felt detached the whole time.

Something like this is very subjective so there's not much more I can say that it's unfortunate you feel this, but I can't do anything about it ;P It's how you recieved his persona in ME3. To me, he didn't sound different/more 'dull' than in ME1. Will just have to agree to disagree, people see things differently, especially something as the way someone talks, or conveys emotions/the point of the dialogue.

[Kunari801]

The only thing with Kaidan in ME3, is we didn't get enough time with him.

[Mimitochan]

Eloise K wrote...

IsaacShep wrote...

Something like this is very subjective so there's not much more I can say that it's unfortunate you feel this, but I can't do anything about it ;P It's how you recieved his persona in ME3. To me, he didn't sound different/more 'dull' than in ME1. Will just have to agree to disagree, people see things differently, especially something as the way someone talks, or conveys emotions/the point of the dialogue.

Yes, we agree to disagree. But since I really love Kaidan in ME, I was just trying to point out what makes him so dull (IMO) in ME3. I mean, I'm not a hater, never been,  if my feelings'  changed to the extent that I barely stand him, I'm left to wonder if there's something objectivily wrong in the way his character was developed in the last installment.

Wait wait, don't go!!!
It's interesting! Alright, it's subjective, but it's interesting!
I assume you're Italian? I'm French, I've never ever heard K in French, Sbarge's voice is so essential to Kaidan's hotness power, so I'm really puzzled here!
You spoke about K being dumbed, and then after, about Sbarge's acting, and now it's about being dull. Also something about steaks  - i think he may have hit a nerve here!!!

Those 3 things, they're totally different. ...

[nos_astra]

Eloise K wrote...
ETA: I too love Sbarge's voice, I just think that in ME3 he overemphasizes too much to the point that he becomes slightly annoying.

It's just a matter of perspective.

i am pretty sure that throughout me3 kaidan just gets progressively more and more drunk, which explains his intensely nerdified moments, and also how over-the-top kaidan his voice gets by the end—when every word in every sentence becomes a part of the word before it and the word after it until they’re all strung together like raspy whiskey  sex.
-- spicyshimmy.tumblr.com

I heart this headcanon.

Edit: And yes, please stay. I'm German. I can tell you the German voice acting is very different. They changed voice actors after ME1. Both VAs are bad, though. They sound very monotone and stiff compared to Sbarge. I can accept dubbed movies and tv shows alright, I have to because everything is always dubbed here (and my husband can't be bothered to read subtitles) ... but once I'm used to the English version there's no going back.

Modifié par klarabella, 24 juillet 2012 - 09:03 .

[Kunari801]

Eloise K wrote...

IsaacShep wrote...

Something like this is very subjective so there's not much more I can say that it's unfortunate you feel this, but I can't do anything about it ;P It's how you recieved his persona in ME3. To me, he didn't sound different/more 'dull' than in ME1. Will just have to agree to disagree, people see things differently, especially something as the way someone talks, or conveys emotions/the point of the dialogue.

Yes, we agree to disagree, fair enough But since I really love Kaidan in ME, I was just trying to point out what makes him so dull (IMO) in ME3. I mean, I'm not a hater, never been,  if my feelings'  changed to the extent that I barely stand him, I'm left to wonder if there's something objectivily wrong with the way his character was developed in the last installment.

As others have pointed out, there is a few bugs that limit Kaidan's conversations.  Also it's easy to skip a conversation with him in the hospital, it's the first conversation with him when he's awake, you have to click on him again to start it.  

What's you've said is just your opinion and, like Isaac, who's to tell you it's wrong.   

Did you skip talking to him in London?  There is a touching scene at the FOB and another at the "beat run" if you picked up the free EC DLC. 

[nos_astra]

Eloise K wrote...
Yes, we agree to disagree, fair enough But since I really love Kaidan in ME, I was just trying to point out what makes him so dull (IMO) in ME3. I mean, I'm not a hater, never been,  if my feelings'  changed to the extent that I barely stand him, I'm left to wonder if there's something objectivily wrong with the way his character was developed in the last installment.

Maybe it's just that you're disappointed with the character or romance arc. Maybe it just doesn't live up to your expectations. It makes all the little flaws that wouldn't bother you otherwise stand out and pile up.

You said something about Ashley that makes me wonder if you are aware that Kaidan is in general very forgiving and eager to reconnect compared to Ashley who lacks auto-dialogue and doesn't move around on the Normandy.

Modifié par klarabella, 24 juillet 2012 - 09:08 .

[dstrawberrygirl]

klarabella wrote...

i am pretty sure that throughout me3 kaidan just gets progressively more and more drunk, which explains his intensely nerdified moments, and also how over-the-top kaidan his voice gets by the end—when every word in every sentence becomes a part of the word before it and the word after it until they’re all strung together like raspy whiskey  sex.
-- spicyshimmy.tumblr.com

I heart this headcanon.

That has made my day - thank you so much for sharing!

[blmlozz]

Mimitochan wrote...

Well, I agree with you, I have a lot to complain about ME3, but I have yet enough energy/motivation to b*tch about it here.
My "oh this thread again" time may come, but in the meantime, I feel satisfied on the overall about the way Kaidan was treated (everything IsaacShep said), actually, I feel somehow relieved about it compared to a lot of other aspects of the game and characters.
Still, the Mars part fits perfectly with my headcanon, and it must be my favourite Shenko moment.
I won't lie, I loved romantic times with Kaidan, but they just feel aloof or very predictable.

I agree 100%.

I believe it would be nothing new to say ME3 felt on the whole as a less polished product than it's precedessors, Perhapes that's because they had to stuff so much more content in there and quality suffers in the reality of vast amounts of quantity.

That said, compared to the ME2 Characters, we got the better part of the deal. I expected we would given we got nothing at all in ME2, but if we had a time to hold out for a better cut of the writter's time, ME3 would be it. How pissed do you think any of the ME2 L/I's are? Espically Thane, or Jacob L/I'ers? We get to be with Kaidan from the get go- Tali people don't get to see her until half-way through and then they had to settle for a stock photo? <_<

The only people that got a decent deal were Liara, Garrus, and the VS's.. and if you didn't romance Garrus in ME2? you're SOL. 

Cortez the only other romance worth mentioning, and I've discussed my view of that arc and why I dislike it. 

Modifié par blmlozz, 24 juillet 2012 - 10:13 .

[Kunari801]

blmlozz wrote...
... The only people that got a decent deal were Liara, Garrus, and the VS's.. and if you didn't romance Garrus in ME2? you're SOL. 

Cortez the only other romance worth mentioning, and I've discussed my view of that arc and why I dislike it.  

The EC helped, every LI now as a "last though" shot instead of getting Liara.  However, yes, the best romances are the ones you mention.   

I liked Cortez's romance, though it is too short.  

[Doodle]

Kunari801 wrote...

I liked Cortez's romance, though it is too short.  

Meh.

[blmlozz]

I LikeTo Doodle wrote...

Kunari801 wrote...

I liked Cortez's romance, though it is too short.  

Meh.

My seditment exactly..

[Mimitochan]

Eloise K wrote...
I didn't have high expectations, or at least nothing that BW couldn't have delivered (how brave of me to believe so...).

Well, by the looks of it, seems to me you had them high alright
Now "high", that's very subjective. "Default" to you may be "high" to BW standards.
My default assumptions here, my default stand on ME is: everything ME3 was way better in ME1.
So, there you are. You don't need any extra explanation.

But if you want some >>>

Kaidan from ME1 felt like a human being. A RL life person you got to discover and... well... locker scene, Ilos scene. I... am tipsy. And also, ME1 is just so superior. I'm just too tired explaining.

Kaidan from ME2 is the smartest marketing move ever in video game history. 'Hey guys, let's just spend the lowest budget ever on VS' character development AND make sure VS target will undoubtedly buy ME3 even thought they suffered Hell". Wow.

Kaidan from ME3 is "grown-up" ME1 Kaidan, but mostly, Kaidan caricature and Kaidan fan service (evac scene).
I... really don't feel BW did care about Kaidan. I don't think they really loved him. And I think it's about the same for Ash. There absolutely isn't any long term strategy or character development or leading art direction throughout ME1 to ME3, as far as the franchise is concerned, so about Kaidan, i wouldn't expect consistency, or vision, or whatever, it was all improvised, even for invicible Liara. But I may be wrong. Maybe they tried, and couldn't do it > I blame you people here on the Kaidan thread for making me go soft about this! 
 
So. If you have all those elements in mind. Maybe, just like me, you'll feel lucky about ME3 Kaidan.
Because:
> you had ME3 Kaidan: totally expected to see him disappear from ME2 onwards,
> you didn't fell for Jacob Taylor. Enough said,
> you could have been tamagoching him in ME2 (gross),
> he could have been through plastic surgery just like everybody else,
> and so much on, but I'm drunk now.

While I feel it's lame to think about him in ME3 as "well it could have been worse", instead of "it is grand", I feel lucky enough.

Does that make sense to you, Eloise?

Modifié par Mimitochan, 24 juillet 2012 - 10:58 .

[Doodle]

blmlozz wrote...

I LikeTo Doodle wrote...

Kunari801 wrote...

I liked Cortez's romance, though it is too short.  

Meh.

My seditment exactly..

Oooh ToP

shepard or Kaidan? (loljoke)

Modifié par I LikeTo Doodle, 24 juillet 2012 - 11:07 .