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[Caseshep]

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Time4Tiddy wrote...

sugaafoot wrote...

I agree, I love bioware games because of the companions, I feel so lonely in the elder scrolls. Sad. Atleast your husband watches you play, mine doesn't. My friends don't even play video games. Lol I'm the only one who has any interest in it.

I think this is exactly what makes Bioware games unique.  So many memorable companions that you actually care about, and who change based on your actions.  Most other RPGs either have no companions at all (which DOES feel lonely) or the NPCs, while memorable, aren't affected by anything you do, so it feels more like reading a novel and less like interacting with a person.  I think it also adds to the replayability exponentially, as different combinations of companions will make the game feel very different, and your companions act differently based on the choices you've made.  I don't know many other games that do this.  

The only non-Bioware games where I ever felt so attached to companion characters are the Fire Emblem games, and I can see many of the same characteristics...  

1) Characters interact with each other, so there is replayability around seeing different party make-up
2) Scenes play out differently depending on which characters are in your active group
3) Using the same characters more often rewards you with additional dialogue and backstory
4) No possible way to see all companion dialogue in one game, or even in two or three playthroughs
5) ROMANCE!
6) Multiple epilogue possibilities for each companion depending on how you used them in that particular game

This. That is why I prefer BioWare over Bethesda. Though, I do feel a strong connection to Fallout 3 because I have emotional investment in Dogmeat. <3 Also, I love Fawkes. I just wish there could be more depths to the characters.

TeenZombie wrote...

I was thinking of changing the title when story spoilers came out, so we could warn people before entering that we'd be having spoilery discussions.  But that hasn't been necessary yet...

*crosses fingers*

Modifié par Caseshep, 28 août 2011 - 04:25 .

[shepskisaac]

Chylise wrote...

Bioware RPGs have spoiled me, I love having a character that I can create and make do things, as opposed to JRPGs where everything is setup a certain way. (In fact, there haven't been many JRPGs that I've played lately, I think my last one was Final Fantasy XIII )

The last jRPG I played was FFX. They're just not for me. I hate infantile stuff, that's first so all the kawaii characters are just ugh for me (prime reason why I don't like Tali). Second, they're only RPGs in stats/combat. Stories are linear, all characters predefined, no dialogue options etc.

TeenZombie wrote...

I was thinking of changing the title when story spoilers came out, so we could warn people before entering that we'd be having spoilery discussions.  But that hasn't been necessary yet...

Ohhhhh let's hope we're gonna need *MAJOR SPOILERS* tag soon! :O:O

Modifié par IsaacShep, 28 août 2011 - 04:25 .

[a2yostie]

Bekkael wrote...

I hate shooters. My hubby loves them. He doesn't play RPG's, but likes to watch me. The Mass Effect games are the only shooter-esque games I have ever (mostly) enjoyed. I normally prefer swords and magic, but ME is close enough to satisfy.

I loved the first ME. I love fantasy and sci-fi, and to have the sci-fi universe get the Bioware treatment, I was hooked the moment they announced the game. (I know they did KotOR, but I don't really count star wars as true sci-fi, it is too much it's own universe). We (my husband and I) even got an xbox specifically to play it (because, you know, it was SUPPOSED to be xbox exclusive). Bioware, as others have said, is just so far above other developers in terms of balancing the depth of the story, the world, the charectors and the gameplay. Which is why I was so disappointed with ME2, because I know how amazing Bioware really can be. The total irony is that if any other developer had made ME2 I would actually liked it, but for it to be a BW game...well...I was...underwhelmed.      But that's just me and my opinion.

[apprehensively optomistic] I'm looking forward to ME3. I really, really, really want to like it. And I want Kaidan back, as a permanent, full squad member. I can't count the number of times during ME that I muttered "Thanks Kaidan!" as the Krogan or Geth Destroyer that was about to wail on me suddenly floated harmlessly up in the air!

[Ellyria]

IsaacShep wrote...

Chylise wrote...

Bioware RPGs have spoiled me, I love having a character that I can create and make do things, as opposed to JRPGs where everything is setup a certain way. (In fact, there haven't been many JRPGs that I've played lately, I think my last one was Final Fantasy XIII )

The last jRPG I played was FFX. They're just not for me. I hate infantile stuff, that's first so all the kawaii characters are just ugh for me (prime reason why I don't like Tali). Second, they're only RPGs in stats/combat. Stories are linear, all characters predefined, no dialogue options etc.

Oh, I LIKE JRPGs, don't get me wrong. It's just that I haven't really seen anything new come out that I actually am looking forward to. (Not to mention they've mostly likely cancelled my favorite series: Chrono Trigger/Cross, Suikoden, and Shadow Hearts. <_< *is bitter*) Guess I'll be hugging my SNES/PS1/PS2 when I want some JRPG goodness.

But, JRPGs don't have... THIS:

[Kia Purity]

...speaking of Jrpgs-- I've been working on Final Fantasy XIII for uh, a year? (slowly grinding and going crazy because of it.)

Mass Effect is a welcome break from fantasy-themed rpgs. (I guess I sure do like the sci-fi themed rpgs the best XP ... especially if the love interest has a hairbump that I need to poke just to see what holds it up!)

[AiLeO]

Unfortunately there are a few jrpg titles that I want to play that aren't coming out stateside.(Xenoblade, grr) I gave Mass Effect a chance because I am not really a swords and sorcery type of person. So when sci-fi and rpg came together in awesomeness I knew I had to play. So yeah, I am spoiled. I find it very hard to pick new games to play because now I think "Are my characters going to interact with me?" "Can I set the story?"

[Bekkael]

a2yostie wrote...
I can't count the number of times during ME that I muttered "Thanks Kaidan!" as the Krogan or Geth Destroyer that was about to wail on me suddenly floated harmlessly up in the air!

That was the hardest thing for me to deal with in ME2: I had a Kaidan-shaped hole in my party that no other companion could fill. He was my *perfect* support. I ended up relying heavily on Garrus, Thane, and occasionally Jack (mostly just to hear her run her mouth LOL), but it still wasn't the same.

I can't wait to play another entire game with Kaidan.

RE: JRPG's

I think the last one I played was Lost Odyssey. It was cute for what it was, but those kinds of games are usually only to tide me over until the next BioWare release.

[SuiteAces]

Ok guys, this is my first time coming here (and, yes, I am a die-hard Garrus fan girl), but I must admit that after finishing KOTOR for the first time ever and romancing Carth that now I am warming back up to ol' Kaidan.  Carth turned me into a Carth fangirl, despite all the smack people talk about him, and, dammit, I am really starting to like Kaidan again as a side effect. 

So while I'll always be a Garrus gal, I now have a growing soft spot for Kaidan.

I know this probably doesn't contribute to anything (or the ongoing thread for that matter), but I felt compelled for some odd reason to place my 2 cents here.  Carry on ladies and gents, don't let me get in the way 

[Bekkael]

Rannin wrote...
So while I'll always be a Garrus gal, I now have a growing soft spot for Kaidan.

You can adore multiple characters. It works for me. (Garrus is my Shep's BFF) And welcome, feel free to pull up a chair!

[Caseshep]

Bekkael wrote...

Rannin wrote...
So while I'll always be a Garrus gal, I now have a growing soft spot for Kaidan.

You can adore multiple characters. It works for me. (Garrus is my Shep's BFF) And welcome, feel free to pull up a chair!

Certainly! I adore Brandon Keener and his voice. Kaidan is my Shep's love and best friend, but Garrus is like a brother to Shep. They became closer in ME2 since he was there when Kaidan wasn't. Not in a romantic way, just in a second-in-command way, brotherly way.

[Criz]

@Isaac, I came up with the bump hair line, but upon seeing it pop up there I almost spit Müsli all over the screen

maybe something with 'Way to go Team Milky Way'
it's even obscurer, because you need to romance a hardened Kaidan ... oh, and renegade/alienphobe him, too

[SuiteAces]

Thanks for the warm welcomes guys! 

I found myself really enjoying Carth/Kaidan's VA whilst playing KOTOR (he's got a cute "raspy" voice), and it felt like there were more conversations than ME1&2 (which I LOVED).  Be that as it may, I can completely see how much of an improvement the end-game romance result that Kaidan got versus Carth in ME1.  I felt kinda "gypped" at the end of KOTOR, because, yet again (like the Garrus romance) all I wanted was a simple kiss  (is that so hard lol? And my bf told me that Bastila got a kiss *grr-rage*).

My mainShep saved herself for Garrus, but now my secondaryShep (who was Kaidan ME1/Garrus ME2) has 2 playthroughs that she needs to play now for ME3 where one of the runthroughs will be for Garrus and the other for Kaidan (it should be really interresting). 

[Pax of Doom]

Rannin wrote...

Thanks for the warm welcomes guys! 

I found myself really enjoying Carth/Kaidan's VA whilst playing KOTOR (he's got a cute "raspy" voice), and it felt like there were more conversations than ME1&2 (which I LOVED).  Be that as it may, I can completely see how much of an improvement the end-game romance result that Kaidan got versus Carth in ME1.  I felt kinda "gypped" at the end of KOTOR, because, yet again (like the Garrus romance) all I wanted was a simple kiss  (is that so hard lol? And my bf told me that Bastila got a kiss *grr-rage*).

My mainShep saved herself for Garrus, but now my secondaryShep (who was Kaidan ME1/Garrus ME2) has 2 playthroughs that she needs to play now for ME3 where one of the runthroughs will be for Garrus and the other for Kaidan (it should be really interresting). 

There are KOTOR mods to help.  

Welcome!  Kaidan/Garrus is an awesome pairing for any class Shepard.  Between them, they have all 3 "trees" covered in some way (soldiering, tech, biotics).  Can't wait for the BAMF team to be back in action in ME3.

[SuiteAces]

Pax of Doom wrote...
There are KOTOR mods to help.  

Welcome!  Kaidan/Garrus is an awesome pairing for any class Shepard.  Between them, they have all 3 "trees" covered in some way (soldiering, tech, biotics).  Can't wait for the BAMF team to be back in action in ME3.

Lol, I am a rookie PC gamer (console by preference-all my ME1&2 playthroughs are on my 360 {a couple o'hundred hours or so}) and am not very experienced with mods {also, KOTOR's graphics are about all my PC can handle-it's kinda weak} so I would probably bork something up royally .

I do love the Garrus/Kaidan team since I always play a biotic, and thusly, makes us a pretty well-rounded team.  I also love the Kaidan/Liara team, because I love it when all of us have Lift/other "lock-down" style biotics.  It can make my battlefields look pretty trippy with biotic effects all over the place and enemies flying all through the air.

[Fault Girl]

I hope Kaidan has alot more conversations in ME3, it's nice in KotOR to have carth talk alot *swoon* playing it for the first time atm, I feel like a fool for not playing it sooner!

Even though I kinda knew the plot before hand (by reading accidently) it's still AWESOME.


Ah man, everyone's kids are so CUTE. One day I shall have my own little group of gamers. *evil laugh*

[VeR0se]

I hope they will allow another intense scene between Kaidan and Shepard, like that one scene when the normady is grounded and Shepard is throwing a hissy fit near her lockers and they are about to kiss but Joker interrupts them before they do.

That was a pretty intense scene, I wasn't sure about Kaidan in ME2 though, the way he reacted when he found out Shepard was with cerberus was angering. But I stayed loyal to him in almost every playthrough.

I want more talking with squad mates period, ME2 dissapointed me with that.

[Pax of Doom]

VeR0se wrote...

I hope they will allow another intense scene between Kaidan and Shepard, like that one scene when the normady is grounded and Shepard is throwing a hissy fit near her lockers and they are about to kiss but Joker interrupts them before they do.

Love that scene - the best scene in the game.  Ilos Eve is nice, but the locker scene...  The look on Kaidan's face when Joker interrupts is perfect.

[mya11]

Hi all fans !! I hope for the next video we see Kaidan with Shepard and no again Liara or Garus !!

[Jenova65]

Bekkael wrote...
*clears throat* I just might write quite a bit for the DA kmeme. And I REALLY like Carver. Yet I admit nothing. :innocent:

I'm torn between ~
^^^^^^^^^^^^ My new best friend 

OR...
@Teen, yep that's how we roll, baby, you know that 

Oooh........... yay I did both 

Modifié par Jenova65, 28 août 2011 - 10:51 .

[Jenova65]

IsaacShep wrote...

Maybe we could have a new title? One that would include "Bump hair tonight Kaidan. With me"? xD

*snigger* That's pretty funny, Isaac 

[VeR0se]

Pax of Doom wrote...

VeR0se wrote...

I hope they will allow another intense scene between Kaidan and Shepard, like that one scene when the normady is grounded and Shepard is throwing a hissy fit near her lockers and they are about to kiss but Joker interrupts them before they do.

Love that scene - the best scene in the game.  Ilos Eve is nice, but the locker scene...  The look on Kaidan's face when Joker interrupts is perfect.

First time I saw it I was like "YES YES YES!!!" then joker interupted them and I was like "awww". 

[Sialater]

Rannin wrote...

Ok guys, this is my first time coming here (and, yes, I am a die-hard Garrus fan girl), but I must admit that after finishing KOTOR for the first time ever and romancing Carth that now I am warming back up to ol' Kaidan.  Carth turned me into a Carth fangirl, despite all the smack people talk about him, and, dammit, I am really starting to like Kaidan again as a side effect. 

So while I'll always be a Garrus gal, I now have a growing soft spot for Kaidan.

I know this probably doesn't contribute to anything (or the ongoing thread for that matter), but I felt compelled for some odd reason to place my 2 cents here.  Carry on ladies and gents, don't let me get in the way 

Well, you're in good company.  I love both, too.


As does Meghan Shepard.

Modifié par Sialater, 28 août 2011 - 01:51 .

[Ellyria]

Rannin wrote...

Thanks for the warm welcomes guys! 

I found myself really enjoying Carth/Kaidan's VA whilst playing KOTOR (he's got a cute "raspy" voice), and it felt like there were more conversations than ME1&2 (which I LOVED).  Be that as it may, I can completely see how much of an improvement the end-game romance result that Kaidan got versus Carth in ME1.  I felt kinda "gypped" at the end of KOTOR, because, yet again (like the Garrus romance) all I wanted was a simple kiss  (is that so hard lol? And my bf told me that Bastila got a kiss *grr-rage*).

My mainShep saved herself for Garrus, but now my secondaryShep (who was Kaidan ME1/Garrus ME2) has 2 playthroughs that she needs to play now for ME3 where one of the runthroughs will be for Garrus and the other for Kaidan (it should be really interresting). 

How would a Garrus kiss work? He doesn't have lips. 

I like Garrus too, but more like a friend than a romance. Him and Kaidan are my preferred party for ME1, and him and Thane are my party for ME2.

[Sialater]

Chylise wrote...

Rannin wrote...

Thanks for the warm welcomes guys! 

I found myself really enjoying Carth/Kaidan's VA whilst playing KOTOR (he's got a cute "raspy" voice), and it felt like there were more conversations than ME1&2 (which I LOVED).  Be that as it may, I can completely see how much of an improvement the end-game romance result that Kaidan got versus Carth in ME1.  I felt kinda "gypped" at the end of KOTOR, because, yet again (like the Garrus romance) all I wanted was a simple kiss  (is that so hard lol? And my bf told me that Bastila got a kiss *grr-rage*).

My mainShep saved herself for Garrus, but now my secondaryShep (who was Kaidan ME1/Garrus ME2) has 2 playthroughs that she needs to play now for ME3 where one of the runthroughs will be for Garrus and the other for Kaidan (it should be really interresting). 

How would a Garrus kiss work? He doesn't have lips. 

I like Garrus too, but more like a friend than a romance. Him and Kaidan are my preferred party for ME1, and him and Thane are my party for ME2.

For the answer to that question, you should probably visit the Garrus thread.  Where I can tell you.  And now... back to Kaidan.

Modifié par Sialater, 28 août 2011 - 02:07 .

[Ellyria]

Sialater wrote...

For the answer to that question, you should probably visit the Garrus thread.  Where I can tell you.  And now... back to Kaidan.

It was sort of a rhetorical question, but now I have to waddle over there so I can hear your answer. 

And we all know how Kaidan kisses:



Mmhmm.