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[Mimitochan]

Beep Il wrote...

Mimitochan wrote...
You, you... you LOLed at my misfortune, i saw that you know!

That I did. Couldn't help myself.

Ahah fair enough (why am i saying this?)
I'll just... let you DIE next time we MP ... repeatedly...

[Beep Il]

I LikeTo Doodle wrote...
And leave me behind

okay.

That's an unfortunate side effect. But I'm here now and I'm not going anywhere any time soon.

Okay I'm going to sleep in 30 mins.


@Mimi
My Fury is immortal. She doesn't die or become downed.

Modifié par Beep Il, 06 août 2012 - 08:25 .

[Doodle]

Beep Il wrote...

That's an unfortunate side effect. But I'm here now and I'm not going anywhere any time soon.

Okay I'm going to sleep in 30 mins.

damn it all

i need moar time.

(did some ME quote there, dunno who says it tho...)

[Beep Il]

I LikeTo Doodle wrote...

damn it all

i need moar time.

(did some ME quote there, dunno who says it tho...)

You've been sad a lot lately.

And Tali says she needs more time.

[Doodle]

Beep Il wrote...

I LikeTo Doodle wrote...

damn it all

i need moar time.

(did some ME quote there, dunno who says it tho...)

You've been sad a lot lately.

And who's fault is that

Beep Il wrote...
And Tali says she needs more time.

oh yeah she does

[leighzard]

Nrieh wrote...

And also about personality changes. I don't think it's right to consider that player can really change character's personality (or orientation, yes, DA2, I'm looking at you, or anything else). Non-player characters are called so for a reason. They are constants, given by videogame writers or live GM or anything. Player - is a variable. I did not like "hardening" thing in DAO the way it was put there. Yes, you can inspire your friendloversquad to shift one's opinion, one way or another. But I doubt we can talk about some permanent nature changes here, that can be visible 3 years later. How do you imagine it, I wonder? Kaidan (or Ash) saying something as mantra each morning, just because Shepard thought about it once?

You're saying you've never had someone change your thought process before?  Or a teacher who exposed you to a new idea that changed your perception of an issue?  A coach who encouraged you and inspired you to be greater than you would have been without his/her influence?

Example: I have a former supervisor and now good friend who mentored me through some challenges going back as far as 2008.  As a result I am a stronger leader, I'm more confident, and I take a more active role in decision making.  Her influence is something that I carry with me into anything new that I undertake 4 years later - a very long-lasting and permanent change.  I would be different had I not met her, and I still turn to her for advice because I know she'll see something I hadn't in a situation.

So do I think that everyday RenegadedKaidan wakes up and says to himself.  "Humans are better than aliens.  It must be true because Shepard said so"?  No.  But do I think he reflected on his conversations with renegade Shepard and decided that maybe her views had merit? Yes.  Kaidan respects Shepard and would take her opinions seriously, not reject them wholesale for being different from his own.  There may be things RenegadeKaidan disagrees with, but there are also parts that make sense to him that he incorporates into his own philosophy

And actually I think DA:O represents the process even better.  After the warden tells Alistair that people are just looking out for themselves, the conversation ends, and Alistair seems just as disappointed as he was when he left Goldana's house - it's not a magic bullet.  But he comes to you later in camp, a sign that he's really been reflecting on what the Warden said to him and wants to discuss it further after he's had some time to process what happened.  It's not a sign of the Warden changing Alistair's personality for him; it's Alistair making a decision to make a change for himself (although some of the dialogue choices for the Warden can come off as a little flippant) because of a new perspective his companion shared with him.

[Beep Il]

I LikeTo Doodle wrote...
And who's fault is that

Well, you didn't want to meet my sofa... I guess the fault lies in both of us.

[NRieh]

I'll just... let you DIE next time we MP

I can help... I mean letting him die. I'm somewhere around, even if my status says "DA2"...but I'm drinking baileys from a coffe cup - so I'm not sure which difficulty I'll be good for....must be either copper or eezo...

ps: and no one told me what happens with shared cuts if you use gibbed editor making both Kaidan and Ash alive..

[Doodle]

Beep Il wrote...

I LikeTo Doodle wrote...
And who's fault is that

Well, you didn't want to meet my sofa... I guess the fault lies in both of us.

i said the sofa isn't my type

but then this whole challenge thing came up and blah blah blah

etc etc etc

Kaidan Kaidan Kaidan

then back to this convo, nice circle

Modifié par I LikeTo Doodle, 06 août 2012 - 08:39 .

[Beep Il]

I LikeTo Doodle wrote...
i said the sofa isn't my type

but then this whole challenge thing came up and blah blah blah

etc etc etc

Kaidan Kaidan Kaidan

then back to this convo, nice circle

You misunderstood. I didn't mean you should meet the sofa. What I did mean is that you should've sat next to me there.

[lindtchoco]

I'll just... let you DIE next time we MP

I can help... I mean letting him die. I'm somewhere around, even if my status says "DA2"...but I'm drinking baileys from a coffe cup - so I'm not sure which difficulty I'll be good for....must be either copper or eezo...

aww Beep, whatever you did made Mimi mad.

a reunion pic after London

Source

Modifié par lindtchoco, 06 août 2012 - 08:53 .

[Doodle]

Beep Il wrote...

You misunderstood. I didn't mean you should meet the sofa. What I did mean is that you should've sat next to me there.

oh i misunderstood?

yeah i have a habbit of doing that,

and sat next to you eh?

then what happens next has yet to be written

Modifié par I LikeTo Doodle, 06 août 2012 - 08:49 .

[NRieh]

You're saying you've never had someone change your thought process before? Or a teacher who exposed you to a new idea that changed your perception of an issue? A coach who encouraged you and inspired you to be greater than you would have been without his/her influence?

Yes, of course. But good teacher never does anything besides helping student to be what (s)he actually is. It's not really about changing one's mind or following one's path or something. Shepard influed all of his\\her squad - that's true, but I doubt those changes can be represented as something linear - like "shepard renegaded Kaidan - Kaidan became renegadish". I don't think you can pick consequences of those "changes" from entire character we see in ME3.

And as for DAO "hardening"....that's just a bad example of "teaching". "Master" says it this way - student follows ( or better say - decides to follow) way shown by master.

[Beep Il]

I LikeTo Doodle wrote...

oh i misunderstood?

yeah i have a habbit of doing that,

and sat next to you eh?

then what would happen next has yet to be written

That's up to you.:innocent:

[LadieGamer]

I usually don't post much on BSN but I'm sick and can't focus enough to play the game right now, so I was surfing the net and found this. Thought you guys might like it as much as I did.

[Doodle]

Beep Il wrote...

I LikeTo Doodle wrote...

oh i misunderstood?

yeah i have a habbit of doing that,

and sat next to you eh?

then what would happen next has yet to be written

That's up to you.:innocent:

Up to me? but such a choice has already been made! nobody has yet to sway the mind that is me.

[Beep Il]

I LikeTo Doodle wrote...

Up to me? but such a choice has already been made! nobody has yet to sway the mind that is me.

I'm sleepy and I presumably didn't get what you meant, but in any case you won't be forever alone.
Night night, Doodle.

[Doodle]

Beep Il wrote...

I LikeTo Doodle wrote...

Up to me? but such a choice has already been made! nobody has yet to sway the mind that is me.

I'm sleepy and I presumably didn't get what you meant, but in any case you won't be forever alone.
Night night, Doodle.

Yeah you're most likely sleepy to not get what i said...
Also how'd you know i won't be
Night night Beep

[Mimitochan]

Forgive me if i fly back in time just a bit, some 10 pages ago, i'll make this quick.

AkodoRyu wrote...
That's because she's mine ;] *points at the dA link*

Yeah, I KNOW it's yours
What I meant is, i really liked how you came up with the idea of this situation > as i understand it was because you had to change your Shep's haircut from ME2 to ME3? I love the idea of Kaidan teasing her about this.

AstusOz wrote...
One moment he's there and then he's not, lol. Hopefully something can be done to fix it. It is minor but minor flavours really do enhance the overall experience! E: Oh, actually I'm just misremembering. I remember a few occassions when Shep and Femshep had eye animations that annoyed me. Mainly with their eyes not opening fully. It grew annoying.

Well, i actually think Kaidan is really lucky about this. I'm really having a hard time with custom FemShep though. What I did so far is that I Gibbed save edited her to close her eyelids a bit, and also, i'll try to apply custom textures to the eyes.

About deleted angry Kaidan... I'm not sure where this would fit, or if it would fit him, it would really depend on the context, but i'd love to see angry Kaidan cause... i'd love to see anything Kaidan, and yes, Mr. SelfControl getting wiiiiild for once. But also because the only time we saw him getting really angry (as in a full scene, not just some lines now and then "you bastard, you sold us out!") was against... Shepard, so that would make it a lot more enjoyable this time around. Also, i would have loved to see Shep's dialogue wheel (if any) in  this context.

About Leviathan's dream team > Kaidan and probably James > a good balanced team, and i picture the both of them as buddies in the making. Plus, somehow i feel James will have those candid lines about going underwater.

About being banned, if you're interested, the rules i had supposedly broken with that pyramid quote were about: spamming, posting images without content (??? does the heart icon counts as such?) and off-topickness.

Modifié par Mimitochan, 06 août 2012 - 10:33 .

[Mimitochan]

AshTheBrave wrote...
All I gotta say to the sweet fluffy reaper is:
COME AT ME BRO! I'll Destroy you too.

Ahah, never thought about that, you're right, he'll probably end up dead in Destroy!
Actually, i have a confession, i think of all ME characters who end up dead in my main playthrough so far, i really only feel sorry about Legion. That N7 piece of armour, it made me fall in love with him.

Been thinking about this, it's VERY likely i'll buy this as soon as it comes out. Especially if it's less than 10 euros.
I just love ocean maps. And i love Kaidan.

@laika, thank you so much for the celebrating Kaidan (yeah, i think it's horrible too, almost as much as the jibjab thing), i quite loved this instead >>>

laikabaws wrote...

The hands of a lovely man over your jaw is always enjoyable.

I'll add that you amaze me at having the ability to post some ghastly green nightmarish mutant things that will lead you straight to Hell (just don't take it as some sort of challenge, please) as well as those cute chibi stuff while still being the same being.

EDIT> 

laikabaws wrote...
Don't worry, all 6 of my Shepards will test Kaidan's banter priority with different teammates...although sorry if it might take me long

I'm right behind you, you can do it!

Modifié par Mimitochan, 06 août 2012 - 10:33 .

[HopHazzard]

LadieGamer wrote...

I usually don't post much on BSN but I'm sick and can't focus enough to play the game right now, so I was surfing the net and found this. Thought you guys might like it as much as I did.

I love that song, but I can't buy it. It's on the Twilight soundtrack and I don't want the VI's at amazon or itunes thinking I'm actually interested in it.

[leighzard]

Nrieh wrote...

You're saying you've never had someone change your thought process before? Or a teacher who exposed you to a new idea that changed your perception of an issue? A coach who encouraged you and inspired you to be greater than you would have been without his/her influence?

Yes, of course. But good teacher never does anything besides helping student to be what (s)he actually is. It's not really about changing one's mind or following one's path or something. Shepard influed all of hisher squad - that's true, but I doubt those changes can be represented as something linear - like "shepard renegaded Kaidan - Kaidan became renegadish". I don't think you can pick consequences of those "changes" from entire character we see in ME3.

And as for DAO "hardening"....that's just a bad example of "teaching". "Master" says it this way - student follows ( or better say - decides to follow) way shown by master.

Well the game mechanic is, at times, inelegant, as you aptly described, but it still serves as a nice parallel to real world relationships.  I think that both Shepard and the Warden can be good teachers if that's how you rp them, even if it is represented imperfectly. 

Stepping away from the rp aspects and back towards game mechanics, BW set up the ME series as one where your actions are meant to have noticeable consequences, and they left the consequences of some of those actions out.  They created two diverging paths with the VS and then failed to follow those paths out any further.  As you said, perhaps you simply can't discern the direct affects of Shepard's influence, or maybe regardless of what Kaidan (or Ash) believes in ME1 that aspect of his personality has been assimilated/subsumed to become the character we meet in ME3.  I still think BW could have done more with the dichotomy they created in ME1 if they'd considered it.

Of course, this doesn't apply solely to Shepard's impact (or lack thereof) on the VS's personality.  The Rachni are another example of a missed opportunity with branching paths: whether you saved the queen or not, she still shows up in ME3.  But even then your ME1 decision wasn't completely ignored.  There are slight differences in how the mission plays out - it's explained that if you didn't save the queen in ME1 she's a different queen, and if you cut her loose she betrays you (I haven't played my dead rachni queen playthroughs yet, so I'm sorry if I got that wrong) - wheras there is no mention of Shepard's previous discussions with the VS regarding humanity's relationship with the galactic community.

tl;dr - agree to disagree


Edit: poor syntax made it look like I think vs is dull.  corrected as this is obviously not the case judged by my essays on the subject.

Modifié par leborum, 06 août 2012 - 09:41 .

[Mimitochan]

laikabaws wrote...

@Master Alenko Maybe it's because you worded your supposed opinion wrongly? (that's all I'm going to say )

Will the popcorn eating commence?

No, he's not looking at Tali's butt, and where's the rest of the animation??

@leborum: yes, turning Kaidan renegade from ME1 was really an interesting feature, but it made me uneasy, i didn't like that you could "turn" him to shape him.

Also this >>>>>>>>>>>

laikabaws wrote...

I caused myself some heartbreak (((((((

This is awesome!!!!
Is it actual screenshots from modded game?
I should try this sometime...

About dating Kaidan > NO idea what you're talking all about. Plus he says "my friends convinced me to...", what "friends" exactly???

Master Alenko wrote...

Hi Mimi! I don't know you yet but I hope I get the chance.

Hi Master Alenko.
Well, i've read things here that were causing quite some... disturbance in the Kaidan thread to say the least, but as you may have noticed from all the very super people here who very admirably answered to you, this place is for all Kaidanites, straight, gay, female, male, bi, faithful, noob, buddies (alright not so many of them in there ;P). That's just Kaidan love power at work for you, and i so love this thread for this.

I may have gone into yet one of those long rants about video game character sexuality, but that's really not the point here and also, as much as i love debating about anything Kaidan, i've learnt that people here may feel uneasy on debating about that specific subject, so i just tend to refrain.

Kaidan compells a variety of emotions of diverse intensity depending on the individuals you'll meet here, just keep that in mind and respect that and you'll be fine. The problem is not how you feel (I myself don't find mShenko appealing, just because Kaidan is just this 100% straight guy for my femShep) , the only thing you should remember is to respect other Kaidanites (yes, EVEN the Costa worshippers such as Beep). Also, please people, don't just make me read ever again that heterosexual couples feel wrong, or i may have to rant a lot longer.  

KarissaEB wrote...
What!? That's just.... I don't even know. Mimi is awesome!!

Ahah, thanks Karissa, that's really a nice thing to say

Nrieh wrote...

I'll just... let you DIE next time we MP

I can help... I mean letting him die. I'm somewhere around, even if my status says "DA2"...but I'm drinking baileys from a coffe cup - so I'm not sure which difficulty I'll be good for....must be either copper or eezo...

Ahah, @Beep, ready for a game? ... I was joking, i'll save your sorry Fury ass anytime, cause it's somewhat a Kaidanite ass (other half is still Cortezzie your Shep tells me).

@Nrieh: thanks for voicing my thoughts in those lame and tragic moments , also... oooooh, Bailey's!! From a coffee cup - you're quite the warrior!

@Doodle: oh you meant my first post on the thread? I wasn't talking about this, i was talking about an early thread i had created on BSN... You know, the one where i had just finished the game and wanted to kill myself and kill the rest of the world too... Kunari did answer a few kind words in there, because obviously i was talking about my Kaidan loss.

Modifié par Mimitochan, 06 août 2012 - 10:35 .

[Doodle]

Long posts...

now at the "@beep ready for a game" part. you actually mean... o.O?

[Mimitochan]

I LikeTo Doodle wrote...

Long posts...

now at the "@beep ready for a game" part. you actually mean... o.O?

Sorry... so much to catch up! Probably will get ignored, but never mind... 
I meant MP game, what else?

EDIT> great, ToP, let's celebrate with...



Please forgive me...
You're better than that i KNOW.
Just... let me find something worthier...

Also this, cause i want to see it all >>>

Modifié par Mimitochan, 06 août 2012 - 10:23 .