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@KarissaEB I'm so jealous of you going to DragonCon. I believe Raphael Sbarge would be there~ And thanks for reading my guides <3

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He will indeed! I'm so excited!!!  Going to try and hit up every one of his three panels.  I regret everything nothing.

And you are most welcome!  I love the guides!!  Exactly the kind of thing a Kaidan fangirl needs. ;)

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@KarissaEB
1) I definetely agree with you there. There's this growth in Garrus as well in ME3 with his romanced lines with Shep. From Shep fully supporting him from ME1, now he has the confidence to ask, "What's the matter? Can I help? Even just a little." Because for me, just acknowledging a burden means a lot, and he does this consistently (Kaidan does this for Shep, but just in the sexytimes cutscene though, which is for me...meh). I also miss Kaidan's dry humor in ME1 (people now seem to forget he has a dry humor), which seemed all transferred to Garrus (ME1 Garrus was not as funny, but he grows).
As for Thane omg I love that "You've awoken me from my battlesleep" and that letter...just /cry haha. Very tragic indeed, and I do like him romanced or not. Got a lot of insights from him. There's also this romance line when he dies in the hospital that got cut (forgot what it was though) that breaks hearts (too heart-breaking perhaps?).
But Kaidan's romance...NUMBAH ONE (for me)!!! Bro-fist~
Lol and I realize...you didn't mention Jacob! Gasp! But I guess I won't either :P

2. BRO-FIST!!! People just have this weird hero-worship thing going on for games...ummm how about understanding characters? How about understanding what other people might think, given the perspectives they have. Other people don't know what you know. Kaidan doesn't know what Shep knows that time. He has his own assumptions, so he works with those and given what he has, what do you expect?

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laikabaws wrote...

Kunari801 wrote...

laikabaws wrote...

And reposting this question, what do you guys think will Kaidan's idea for a date be for Shepard? What are Kaidan's plans or schemes for a date be (in short)? :wizard:  


OK, here is my quick idea, I'm writing it gender neutral for Shepard so everyone can enjoy: 

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Kaidan has EDI "convince" the Citadel computers to "reserve" the Spectre office for privacy and arranges a special surprise to be delivered when he gives the all-clear. An hour or so later, he and Shepard walk into the Spectre office, as if nothing special is up, just general small talk.Once in the office Alenko challenges Shepard to a pistol shooting match in the range. While they two are in the range, Kaidan sends the signal via his Omnitool to setup the surprise. 

Later, when Shepard & Kaidan walk out of the shooting range, a blanket and picnic is setup and ready for them to enjoy. A bottle of white wine is chilling in a ice bucket and assorted fruits and cheeses are arranged on a platter. Kaidan wraps his arms around Shepard, "Surprise my love." Gently nuzzling and kissing Shepard's neck, "I arranged for us to have the office to ourselves for a few hours."

Shepard turns in Kaidan's arms and looks into his eyes, "Only a few hours?"  

That's very sweet and thoughtful :wub: Thanks Kunari :wizard:


Was it what you were looking for?   I like it too... I may use it for Jungle World.  :happy:


As for Horizon, I'd have loved a way to talk Kaidan onto the Normandy then but I agree, it's a painful but good character growth for Kaidan. I would have liked to see a way to respond to his email letter. It didn't have to be voiced (though I'd of loved that!) but just a way to open a dialog with Kaidan (or tell him off) in ME2 would have been touching. 

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Kunari801 wrote...

laikabaws wrote...

Kunari801 wrote...

laikabaws wrote...

And reposting this question, what do you guys think will Kaidan's idea for a date be for Shepard? What are Kaidan's plans or schemes for a date be (in short)? :wizard:  


OK, here is my quick idea, I'm writing it gender neutral for Shepard so everyone can enjoy: 

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Kaidan has EDI "convince" the Citadel computers to "reserve" the Spectre office for privacy and arranges a special surprise to be delivered when he gives the all-clear. An hour or so later, he and Shepard walk into the Spectre office, as if nothing special is up, just general small talk.Once in the office Alenko challenges Shepard to a pistol shooting match in the range. While they two are in the range, Kaidan sends the signal via his Omnitool to setup the surprise. 

Later, when Shepard & Kaidan walk out of the shooting range, a blanket and picnic is setup and ready for them to enjoy. A bottle of white wine is chilling in a ice bucket and assorted fruits and cheeses are arranged on a platter. Kaidan wraps his arms around Shepard, "Surprise my love." Gently nuzzling and kissing Shepard's neck, "I arranged for us to have the office to ourselves for a few hours."

Shepard turns in Kaidan's arms and looks into his eyes, "Only a few hours?"  

That's very sweet and thoughtful :wub: Thanks Kunari :wizard:


Was it what you were looking for?   I like it too... I may use it for Jungle World.  :happy:


I love eet! Yup, use it for your fic~~~~~<3<3<3 So sweet :wub:

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Lol and I realize...you didn't mention Jacob! Gasp! But I guess I won't either :P


Haha!  Yeah... I don't like his romance at all.  *shrug*

2. BRO-FIST!!! People just have this weird hero-worship thing going on for games...ummm how about understanding characters? How about understanding what other people might think, given the perspectives they have. Other people don't know what you know. Kaidan doesn't know what Shep knows that time. He has his own assumptions, so he works with those and given what he has, what do you expect?

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BROFIST OF DESTINY

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Garrus: "Blah blah blah, family, Palaven, Victus, ruthless calculus of war, Reapers, stripper Vega..."
Shepard: "Wait a sec, what was that about Ve--"

HA!  I can't stop laughing.  I did not see that coming.

Also I am a big supporter of the Garrus romance for all the reasons you mentioned. 
And Garrus totally initiates the ME2 romance, btw.  Really, Garrus?  Reach and flexibility?  Who do you think you're kidding?  I'm on to you, man.  

I've actually never done Thane's romance.  Dead wife and estranged kid...  Too much baggage for me.  But I know it's a favorite, and he and Jacob got the shaft in ME3.  And I also think he's into Shep whether you go for it or not, esp, with the siha thing.  Graceyn writes Thane really well in her fic.  Check it out if you haven't

Oh wait, I did do Thane's romance.  Only he was going by "Carth" at the time.  (*mumbles* Beats me why everyone says Kaidan is the Carth clone)

Good stuff in here this morning.  Y'all have been busy.  I had lots to read.

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BROFIST OF DESTINY


PSYCHEDELIC RAINBOW ENDING OF GREAT JUSTICE!!! (what?)
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KarissaEB wrote...

BROFIST OF DESTINY


PSYCHEDELIC RAINBOW ENDING OF GREAT JUSTICE!!! (what?)
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Oh god.  I've been laughing at the awesome of this for five minutes. =]

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leborum wrote...

laikabaws wrote...

Garrus: "Blah blah blah, family, Palaven, Victus, ruthless calculus of war, Reapers, stripper Vega..."
Shepard: "Wait a sec, what was that about Ve--"

HA!  I can't stop laughing.  I did not see that coming.

Also I am a big supporter of the Garrus romance for all the reasons you mentioned. 
And Garrus totally initiates the ME2 romance, btw.  Really, Garrus?  Reach and flexibility?  Who do you think you're kidding?  I'm on to you, man.  

I've actually never done Thane's romance.  Dead wife and estranged kid...  Too much baggage for me.  But I know it's a favorite, and he and Jacob got the shaft in ME3.  And I also think he's into Shep whether you go for it or not, esp, with the siha thing.  Graceyn writes Thane really well in her fic.  Check it out if you haven't

Oh wait, I did do Thane's romance.  Only he was going by "Carth" at the time.  (*mumbles* Beats me why everyone says Kaidan is the Carth clone)

Good stuff in here this morning.  Y'all have been busy.  I had lots to read.


Wah, I love you for recommending that Garrus romance to me <3<3<3. Can't thank you enough...it's just a whole new experience~ Very uplifting too for my douche!Shep (who's all "KEEL EVERYONE!!! I HATE EVERYONE!!!").

I'm thinking Garrus didn't mean it to become an innuendo targeting Shep, but Shep is all crafty and...
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So Garrus is like, "Oh no...but I can live with that." :devil:
But that's just my headcanon, no need to go spreading it around :whistle:

As for Thane, he is an awesome character and a sweet romance...but yeah I didn't romance him because of his baggage and that awkward Shep jumping him after mentioning his wife and rescuing his son...Shep your timing sometimes...(figures why you can't dance:whistle: And definetely agree with you about Thane (at least subconsciously) crushing on Shep despite not being romanced (because that siha line), and I'm happy it's actualized in Graceyn's fic. 

Edit: I also like Carth, but comparing his issues to Kaidan? I mean, really haters? <_< Just because both are voice acted by the same guy (cutiepie Raphael Sbarge) doesn't mean they are the same character (IQ points dwindling...). But I'm also in this rare camp that loves both Kaidan and Carth in different ways, so maybe I'm wrong :whistle:

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@kaidan > be careful, some people here are seriously considering other romantic options. And no, i'm not talking about Jacob.

@laika @karissa > i certainly miss joking Kaidan, and it's true ME3 rather focuses on his miserable inner struggling self. But i agree he would be the kind to lift Shep's spirits up, i like it that their relationship is playful, and mostly, that Shep is not so playful around other people. Again, i don't think his humour is gone, it's just that they don't show it in ME3. Also, as you said, Garrus has "grown", so they wanted to show some other aspect of the character i suppose. I just felt that unromanced Garrus was just trying too hard to be cool all the time (i mean the way he was written), that's why i was rather dubious about his romancing qualities. But i love the citadel thing with the shooting bottles, and the meet me at the bar thing, really nicely done.

About the date, if it could be anywhere, i'd like Kaidan to make a surprise to Shep, and also, i'd like it to be a casual thing. He would just come and interrupt him/her in whatever serious and time-consuming task Shep was working on, and just ask Shepard to follow him without asking questions. Maybe ask Shep to close his/her eyes until they arrive on spot? That's not something my Shep would agree to do without quite a lot of mumbling, but she would oblige.

I think he could take Shep to one of his favourite places, some place he got memories from, somewhere calm, in the wild, with high grass and a soft wind, and maybe some rustle in trees nearby - my Shep is a spacer, she's not specifically attached to Earth. It would be night time, and he would have just brought a blanket to let them lie back down, just to look at the stars, while talking about the things they've seen up there and sharing a fresh beer with lemon slices. Maybe he could have brought some of Shep's favourite food, after all, even heroes have weaknesses. At one point Shep would say he/she's got to get back to work but Kaidan would be convincing enough to make this an exception and they would just stay there until the morning.

I'm not sure this is a date per say, but that's the closest thing i can think of. Also, since you said post war, i assumed post EC and all is well.

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This page is full of text.
*Doesn't bother to read and posts a Kaidan pic instead* B)

http://i2.squidoocdn...t_romance_kaida

Whoops... Wrong pic.

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laikabaws wrote...
But I'm also in this rare camp that loves both Kaidan and Carth in different ways, so maybe I'm wrong [smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/whistling.png[/smilie]

You're not.  They're both awesome.  The only similarites are that they have the same VA (although Kaidan's voice is lower) and they're both nice guys who don't run around screaming "BLOW UP ALL THE THINGS!"

Mimitochan wrote...

@kaidan > be careful, some people here are seriously considering other romantic options. And no, i'm not talking about Jacob.

I don't think he's in too much danger.  He's still got all of my femSheps but one.  And one of these days I might get around to making a BroShep for him, too.  I've only taken half the Sheps I'd planned through ME3.  Maybe when Leviathan drops I'll get more excited about SP.

Seconded about Kaidan's sense of humor.  I missed it, but I'm sure it's not gone forever.  I wish there were more to laugh about in ME3.  Well Javik's always "unintentionally" funny with his trollin'.

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true Kaidan, very true

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A little off topic but Im about to play Mass Effect 2 again, gonna do the trilogy again with a new character. Obviously romanced Kaidan but thought but feeling the heartbreak already for whats about to come ><
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Mimitochan wrote...

@kaidan > be careful, some people here are seriously considering other romantic options. And no, i'm not talking about Jacob.

@laika @karissa > i certainly miss joking Kaidan, and it's true ME3 rather focuses on his miserable inner struggling self. But i agree he would be the kind to lift Shep's spirits up, i like it that their relationship is playful, and mostly, that Shep is not so playful around other people. Again, i don't think his humour is gone, it's just that they don't show it in ME3. Also, as you said, Garrus has "grown", so they wanted to show some other aspect of the character i suppose. I just felt that unromanced Garrus was just trying too hard to be cool all the time (i mean the way he was written), that's why i was rather dubious about his romancing qualities. But i love the citadel thing with the shooting bottles, and the meet me at the bar thing, really nicely done.

About the date, if it could be anywhere, i'd like Kaidan to make a surprise to Shep, and also, i'd like it to be a casual thing. He would just come and interrupt him/her in whatever serious and time-consuming task Shep was working on, and just ask Shepard to follow him without asking questions. Maybe ask Shep to close his/her eyes until they arrive on spot? That's not something my Shep would agree to do without quite a lot of mumbling, but she would oblige.

I think he could take Shep to one of his favourite places, some place he got memories from, somewhere calm, in the wild, with high grass and a soft wind, and maybe some rustle in trees nearby - my Shep is a spacer, she's not specifically attached to Earth. It would be night time, and he would have just brought a blanket to let them lie back down, just to look at the stars, while talking about the things they've seen up there and sharing a fresh beer with lemon slices. Maybe he could have brought some of Shep's favourite food, after all, even heroes have weaknesses. At one point Shep would say he/she's got to get back to work but Kaidan would be convincing enough to make this an exception and they would just stay there until the morning.

I'm not sure this is a date per say, but that's the closest thing i can think of. Also, since you said post war, i assumed post EC and all is well.


As leborum said, Kaidan is not in danger with my Sheps (6/7 times, he "touched" my Sheps' ice cold hearts lolz). He just has to do this:
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And my Sheps will all be smitten, like this:
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Aww Kaidan humor, how I miss you :(
Ash: /says something about expecting a firefight
Kaidan: "Yeah, if it makes you feel better, I could shoot some things for you." (or something like that)
Ash: Errr...no thanks (or something like that).

Ash: /says something about the advanced civilization still filled with dancing women and people ogling them
Kaidan: "What? You don't think they came here for the food?" (or something like that)
...major lolz
Don't think that way of the Garrus romance, he isn't trying hard in supporting Shep =]

As for that date: :wub::wub::wub: Thanks for answering~ :wizard:

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Oh gawd.  In the Thane/Kaidan/femShep triangle, at Huerta Memorial when you first see Thane again, he says he's spoken to Kaidan (as he says in unromanced dialogue as well), but then says:

Thane: "We have spoken.  He was holding out hope that a woman would visit him... is there something I should know about you two?"

And if you choose the "we're [Shep/Kaidan] still intimate" option, this is the dialogue:

Shep: "We were together for some time before I met you.  I still want to make things work.  Can you understand that?"  (I hate the wording for that "can you understand that", but Jennifer's tone makes it not so hurtful-sounding.)

Thane: "...Oh."  [cue heartbreaking] "...Well, if he means something to you, then he will to me.  He has my protection as long as he is here." [cue mind possibly changing because THIS MAN DRELL MAN]  "I can offer no more and no less.  It was good while it lasted, Shepard." [WAIT, what about "Siha"!?! *heartbreaks*]

GDI, this is turning into a Thane thread post (which I haven't done yet).  Probably the best break-up scene in the game, as far as feels go.  So thank you, Thane (and Chris Hepler), for making me so sad for loving Kaidan more at this moment. *goes to cry in a corner* :crying:

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Talking about other LIs? This is probably the only LI thread that I've seen do it this much. I find it really interesting who the other LIs Kaidanites go for. No Liara or Traynor? No Miranda or Tali? Come on guys, Traynor's really cool.

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AshTheBrave wrote...

Talking about other LIs? This is probably the only LI thread that I've seen do it this much. I find it really interesting who the other LIs Kaidanites go for. No Liara or Traynor? No Miranda or Tali? Come on guys, Traynor's really cool.


I go for Tali

*hides*

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AshTheBrave wrote...

Talking about other LIs? This is probably the only LI thread that I've seen do it this much. I find it really interesting who the other LIs Kaidanites go for. No Liara or Traynor? No Miranda or Tali? Come on guys, Traynor's really cool.


I like to think we're just really well-rounded people =]

Thane or Garrus are the only other two I go for, though Kaidan is my canon (and solely romanced 98% of the time... the other 2% being 1% Garrus and 1% Thane).  I'm really not into any of the others.

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AshTheBrave wrote...

Talking about other LIs? This is probably the only LI thread that I've seen do it this much. I find it really interesting who the other LIs Kaidanites go for. No Liara or Traynor? No Miranda or Tali? Come on guys, Traynor's really cool.

If FemShep could romance Miranda I would do it in a hot second.

I've only got one broShep and he went for Liara in 1 (but only because Ash wouldn't go for a threesome - can't imagine why), Miranda in 2, and I think he's going for Ash in 3.  Also Shaira in 1 and Jack in 2.  Did I mention is a total ho?  So I've never gotten that attached to other LIs.  I just don't like playing a male PC as much.  I'm not as connected to them.

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KarissaEB wrote...

Oh gawd.  In the Thane/Kaidan/femShep triangle, at Huerta Memorial when you first see Thane again, he says he's spoken to Kaidan (as he says in unromanced dialogue as well), but then says:

Thane: "We have spoken.  He was holding out hope that a woman would visit him... is there something I should know about you two?"

And if you choose the "we're [Shep/Kaidan] still intimate" option, this is the dialogue:

Shep: "We were together for some time before I met you.  I still want to make things work.  Can you understand that?"  (I hate the wording for that "can you understand that", but Jennifer's tone makes it not so hurtful-sounding.)

Thane: "...Oh."  [cue heartbreaking] "...Well, if he means something to you, then he will to me.  He has my protection as long as he is here." [cue mind possibly changing because THIS MAN DRELL MAN]  "I can offer no more and no less.  It was good while it lasted, Shepard." [WAIT, what about "Siha"!?! *heartbreaks*]

GDI, this is turning into a Thane thread post (which I haven't done yet).  Probably the best break-up scene in the game, as far as feels go.  So thank you, Thane (and Chris Hepler), for making me so sad for loving Kaidan more at this moment. *goes to cry in a corner* :crying:


Major OUCH. I was actually about to ask for a Thane confirmation of Kaidan romance. Does he acknowledge the Kaidan romance with a faithful Shep (does his lines about Kaidan change for a romanced faithful and unromanced Shep?). 

Didn't experience that with Garrus when I truned him down for Kaidan (for science!). But if it makes you feel better...my heart broke in teeny pieces when I turned down Kaidan (this is a "cheating" Shep btw, not sure for those that just turns him down meanies). And I know I can answer Garrus first to get that friendship dialogue from Kaidan than turning him down...but SCIENCE (even though heart is broken :crying:).

Turning Kaidan Down Dialogue: 
Shepard: I'm sorry, Kaidan, but we should keep it professional. :mellow:
Kaidan: (turns away from Shep, like looking at Shep is hard to do, pauses) Right. Well, not the answer I was hoping for...:?
Shepard: (turns away from Kaidan, like looking at Kaidan is hard to do) Times are...complicated.
Kaidan: (slowly) Oh, I understand. It's okay. (long pause) So...when does the steak get here? Incidentally, you're buying now (hastily attempts humor to change subject or distract Shep from the sound of his heart breaking :crying:)

Cries with you :crying::crying::crying:
Javik: Primitives.

Kaidan: You guys made me blue :(
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If anybody wants to know one new shepard of mine's romance arc through out all 3 here it is Posted Image


ME1 - Liara

ME2- Liara LOTSB
Cheated on her with Miranda, then went with jack then ultimately dumping her, then went with Tali Posted Image

ME3- cheated on Tali and/or Liara with Kaidan Posted Image

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So Doodle. What happened to Miranda in that playthrough of ME3? Was that considered cheating on her? Or since the cheating happened in ME2 it didn't matter?

Does Kaidan in ME3 have anything different to say if you're coming from another relationship?

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AshTheBrave wrote...

So Doodle. What happened to Miranda in that playthrough of ME3? Was that considered cheating on her? Or since the cheating happened in ME2 it didn't matter?

Does Kaidan in ME3 have anything different to say if you're coming from another relationship?


doesn't effect ME3 since you broke it off in ME2

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AshTheBrave wrote...

Talking about other LIs? This is probably the only LI thread that I've seen do it this much. I find it really interesting who the other LIs Kaidanites go for. No Liara or Traynor? No Miranda or Tali? Come on guys, Traynor's really cool.


If my Sheploo wasn't smitten for Kaidan, he'd go for Miranda but...
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Well, that's it...pretty much. Yeah, it's Kaidan's fault! EDIT: LOL SURPRISE TOP~

He was actually supposed to be an Ashmancer (is there such a word?), and I headcanon that he truly loved Ashley...but Virmire comes and he (I have) has to make a choice. Headcanon: he picks Kaidan same as my F!Sheps because Kaidan is a superior officer, biotics is a gift--Ash's expertise can be learned (but gameplaywise, lol my soldiers need biotics), and most importantly that bomb has to go off properly and that bomb is with an alone, injured Kaidan (I love you Ash, but sorry).
If I had more M!Sheps, I'd romance Miranda and Steve <3

Given a choice for my F!Sheps, they would romance Garrus (did with one) and Thane (but his romance was shafted...so...). I had that "cheater" prepared for Vega, but alas!

As for S/S for F!Shep...I'd romance Miranda and Jack, but alas! Traynor is sweet, but her sexytimes is tacky for me and seem to pander to straight gamer boys who have a skewed view of lesbians; shower scene, really (so I won't support that)? Tali for me is like a sister...and her romance is relatively short (she's acquired last), so maybe not. Liara...just...too...much...can't....breathe...:sick:

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