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[AshTheBrave]

Yeah, just choose renegade when talking to Kaidan. I thought someone said they went too renegade on Kaidan though. I guess you have to be careful. Anyone up with more experience in that?

[laikabaws]

Hmmm too renegade? In ME1? The only consequences of being too renegade is in ME3 (and ME1 specifically when you stop his romantic advances...if you intend to romance him).

[Thin029]

Good morning Kaidanites!

[Vigilant111]

Hi Thin Hi Laika

So can there be a paragon Ash?

Also, does being a renegade decrease your chance of romancing Kaidan? I think I asked this before but I forgot the answer

[laikabaws]

Good morning~~~~

@Vigilant111 I know there's this one instance at the start where you can cancel his romance from locking-in. Forgot where exactly though. Was it in the in the Citadel observation deck when Kaidan comments on Shep being beautiful? Haha don't remember. 

Modifié par laikabaws, 10 septembre 2012 - 12:54 .

[Aurora313]

Paragon Ash leads to her letting go of a lot of her family baggage and opening up to the possibility of Aliens as reliable allies, but she still keeps her skeptism (and rightfully so) about the council.

... I just made her sound far more racist than she is.. I apologies, but yeah. You get the idea. She drops alot of her issues, especially after getting to know Tali, Garrus and Wrex.

Modifié par Aurora313, 10 septembre 2012 - 12:55 .

[Thin029]

Awwww Laika don't do that to my heart you know how I feel about that scene

PS: DO IT DO IT MORE

[Vigilant111]

Aurora313 wrote...

Paragon Ash leads to her opening up to the idea of Aliens as allies, but she still keeps her skeptism (and rightfully so) about the council.

I feel obliged to save the council even though they had been unhelpful, so paragon = saving useless things <_<

EDIT: I find that there are not enough non Shepard character - character banters in ME1, or maybe I missed something

Kaidan, Garrus and Wrex should be bros :innocent:

Modifié par Vigilant111, 10 septembre 2012 - 12:58 .

[Beep Il]

Hi, Thin.

*Goes to eat*

[AshTheBrave]

Aurora313 wrote...

Paragon Ash leads to her letting go of a lot of her family baggage and opening up to the possibility of Aliens as reliable allies, but she still keeps her skeptism (and rightfully so) about the council.

I wondered if you could do the same(opposite?) with Ash. Does she side with saving the council at the end?

[laikabaws]

@Thin Do it some more you say? :'D



Don't worry, I'll find more variations later 

Modifié par laikabaws, 10 septembre 2012 - 01:06 .

[Aurora313]

I stand by the notion that if both VSs were alive, Team milky way would endlessly jab and joke around with each other. Shepard and the VSs  would probably be the best of friends at this point. And maybe even a little more if you catch my drift...

I also maintain that in my Duet headcanon, Bro!Shep and Kaidan are both very, VERY gifted and crafty prankers and epically fun guys while off duty. Throughout the entire of ME3 when all four stars are reunited (hell, maybe in ME1 too but not as much), I maintain that there is a prank war of epic proportions happening between the Girls and Boys.

Modifié par Aurora313, 10 septembre 2012 - 01:06 .

[Vigilant111]

@Laika: that top of page picture looks like he is trying hard to stay awake!:alien:

[Thin029]

laikabaws wrote...

Do it some more you say? :'D




Don't worry, I'll find more variations later

 D'AWWWW
I love you, Laika!!
*saves gif*

[Vigilant111]

Aurora313 wrote...

I stand by the notion that if both VSs were alive, Team milky way would endlessly jab and joke around with each other. Shepard and the VSs  would probably be the best of friends at this point. And maybe even a little more if you catch my drift...

I also maintain that in my Duet headcanon, Bro!Shep and Kaidan are both very, VERY gifted and crafty prankers and epically fun guys while off duty. Throughout the entire of ME3 when all four stars are reunited (hell, maybe in ME1 too but not as much), I maintain that there is a prank war of epic proportions happening between the Girls and Boys.

I find the Virmire sacrifice scene unnecessary, it is very arbitrary , it seems like a very easy decision, nothing morally grey is there?

[laikabaws]

not moving one~

[laikabaws]

Vigilant111 wrote...

@Laika: that top of page picture looks like he is trying hard to stay awake!:alien:

No he's puppy-ing his way to your hearts :devil:

[Thin029]

SAVES THEM ALL TO PC

[devSin]

AshTheBrave wrote...

I always thought it was interesting. This is the biggest reason why destroying the geth in ME2 is a renegade choice and rewriting (brain washing) them is a paragon choice. It's also why the Control Ending is blue and Destroy is red. It has absolutely nothing to do with good or evil. Remember their roots. In ME1 it was the charm option and the intimidate option.

I disagree with this assessment. Saving the Collector base was not a "charm" option. Nor was holding back your forces to ensure Sovereign's destruction.

Enslavement and dominance is unquestionably evil. "Absolute power corrupts absolutely" may be platitude, but that doesn't make it not true. There is no finesse or guile here (nor in any of the choices).

What happens when Shepard AI encounters something it considers harmful (even if its initial desire is to protect)? Would it have slaughtered the geth to keep them from attacking the quarians? Would it have annihilated the rachni in an effort to save the other species? Would it have sent the Reapers to cull the krogan when they were fighting to expand throughout the galaxy? Remember that Leviathan reveals the child's ultimate goal is to preserve life, just as the Shepard AI claims it will uphold its sacred mission to protect and preserve (or to guide and to lead, in the renegade permutation).

You are not god, and it's offensive to presume that you should have that power. The kid should not have it, TIM definitely should not have it, and even Shepard should not have it. And Control is definitely not paragon, not in any sane interpretation of its intended morality.

To be honest, I believe the colors are simply supposed to be symbolic (RGB). The fact that two of them match the colors traditionally used for paragon and renegade elements is incidental. Definitely, all of the choices are just as rotten as the others.

AshTheBrave wrote...

Here's something I was wondering about. If you had the choice, would you rather see Kaidan taking a similar place as EDI did in Leviathan but losing squad banter (like EDI), or would you rather see him with more squad banter? You can only pick ONE. There are line budgets.

More squad banter. It would be nice to see Kaidan in a plot role like that, but I prefer having him on the mission and interacting more with stuff that's going on in the field.

[Aurora313]

Vigilant111 wrote...

Aurora313 wrote...

I stand by the notion that if both VSs were alive, Team milky way would endlessly jab and joke around with each other. Shepard and the VSs  would probably be the best of friends at this point. And maybe even a little more if you catch my drift...

I also maintain that in my Duet headcanon, Bro!Shep and Kaidan are both very, VERY gifted and crafty prankers and epically fun guys while off duty. Throughout the entire of ME3 when all four stars are reunited (hell, maybe in ME1 too but not as much), I maintain that there is a prank war of epic proportions happening between the Girls and Boys.

I find the Virmire sacrifice scene unnecessary, it is very arbitrary , it seems like a very easy decision, nothing morally grey is there?

That's the whole reason I created the Duet Effect headcanon in the first place. I don't want to sacrifice both, but if Shepard had someone equally skilled as him save - say, for this example Ashley -  while he distracted Saren (since Saren is out to kill Shepard specifically), then it could theorhetically be pulled off.

Also, I wanted to see how two morally opposite Shepards would exist and interact together.

[laikabaws]

@devsin like genocide (destroy), mass enslavement (control) and mass molestation (synthesis). Doesn't feel like much of a hero now, right Shep? :'D

Modifié par laikabaws, 10 septembre 2012 - 01:15 .

[Aurora313]

Or Mass omnicide (refusal).

[laikabaws]

Haha I always forget to consider refuse as an actual ending :'D
...and I always forget to stop dallying in this thread and get back to Leviathan. Bye for now again guyzzzzzz 

Modifié par laikabaws, 10 septembre 2012 - 01:19 .

[Vigilant111]

laikabaws wrote...

@devsin like genocide (destroy), mass enslavement (control) and mass molestation (synthesis). Doesn't feel like much of a hero now, right Shep? :'D

We have moved on from that notion in the spoilers forum Laika <_<

[laikabaws]

I still feel the same way though haha  And I haven't been in the spoilers forum in the longest time~ That's completely IMO though (yeah yeah, after more than 6 months I'm stil bitter), so you guys shouldn't be afraid to share your ending musings...or Kaidan musings~

Why top? 



Lol all my ME feelings 

Modifié par laikabaws, 10 septembre 2012 - 01:30 .