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lindtchoco

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@laika: thanks! it's done now ^~^
to celebrate the commencement of the weekend: Image IPB
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this one is sad
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see that pic.. it reminds me of that ad in ME2 where the asari was saying how Shep came back from the dead and whether he/she needed a coffin...

#64952
laikabaws

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Hmmm almost at page 2600...I'll hide the other pics for now :P

@lindtchoco Celebratory dance~ More Kaidan time for you :3
lol I'm too lazy to find other dancing pics
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#64953
Aurora313

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@Laikabawa

Thank you. :) And yes, my Fem!Shep can breakdance. In the relationship, she has the flexibility. ;)

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laikabaws

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@Aurora313 Of course she can! Didn't say how well mine does though :P
Cutiepies dancing~
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Kaidan feels it
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Breakdancing like a boss
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As for F!Shep...well...
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As for M!Shep...uhhhhh...
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Also...
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Modifié par laikabaws, 14 septembre 2012 - 08:55 .


#64955
Aurora313

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O.O.......


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Sorry what? I was distracted by that ass.....

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Nrieh wrote...

Why only new? It is romance-specific for import as well. And it's Cronos, as was already mentioned. I forgot about it, yeah - second romance-specific line. through the game.

Because I thought it was from Mars, and on Mars, you get some variable scenes with an imported romance (I assumed you'd get some other dialogue there than this one line).

But since it's from Cronos, yeah, it's for everybody.

Nrieh wrote...

Interesting. What is pass check for Coup? I think I've seen score list somewhere, but I can't remember. I thought it's impossible to pass Coup check AND stay out of high score. Unless there is some way to loose score after passing check (I wonder where - you have only Normandy talk).

Not sure. The points for that one are not the same as his relationship points, and the conversation is more complex. It looks like >= 4 is where he automatically trusts you ("I better not regret this."), but there are checks for everything from 0-4 for other reactions from the VS (I think you always have the chance to charm or intimidate your way through it, even when they don't really trust you). It all depends how you weave your way through the dialogue. (There's also a condition for <= args, but I didn't look at the responses those lead to.)

I did find the response when killing Kaidan who doesn't like you, though:

Shepard: "Kaidan. What the hell were you thinking?"
Kaidan: "I was doing my duty."
Shepard: "You stood up for the wrong man."
Kaidan: "Better... better than killing the wrong man."

Shepard got burned!

Modifié par devSin, 14 septembre 2012 - 09:15 .


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laikabaws

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^Yup I experienced that...my heart was broken for an entire night (you crazy douche, Shep, you) :'D

@Aurora313 that happens to me a lot don't worry :3

More breakdancing
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And silliness
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Once Upon a Time
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Modifié par laikabaws, 14 septembre 2012 - 09:24 .


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laikabaws wrote...

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:pinched: oh my... are those pancakes...?
(is Kaidan inviting shepard to eat them off him?)

Edit: sleeping for real this time -_-

Modifié par lindtchoco, 14 septembre 2012 - 09:36 .


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NRieh

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Not sure. The points for that one are not the same as his relationship points, and the conversation is more complex. It looks like >= 4 is where he automatically trusts you

Not same?? You mean "coup trust" counts separately from "affection"?? Wow, that means extra variables...And Coding God forbids to make extra variables unless really necessary! 8P

I'm charmed by BW logic. Throw out and cut off all sorts of things for sake of simplifying and resource economy, but write multilayered logic for killing (or keeping alive) Kaidan Alenko...

oh my... are those pancakes...?
(is Kaidan inviting shepard to eat them off him?)

 
No, Sheard decided to cosplay some "Hot Shots" classics )))

Modifié par Nrieh, 14 septembre 2012 - 10:37 .


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Nrieh wrote...

Not same?? You mean "coup trust" counts separately from "affection"?? Wow, that means extra variables...And Coding God forbids to make extra variables unless really necessary! 8P

I'm charmed by BW logic. Throw out and cut off all sorts of things for sake of simplifying and resource economy, but write multilayered logic for killing (or keeping alive) Kaidan Alenko...


Yeah yeah.
I'm actually annoyed by that "romance lock" variable.
How silly can that be? I mean what a lame way to code what love is.
I just don't want to look at those conditions too long, it'll ****** me off.

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Thin029

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Dear laika,
I love you!
Sincerely, Thin

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Doodle

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Good afternoon/whateverItIsFerTehRestOvYou.

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devSin wrote...
Not sure. The points for that one are not the same as his relationship points, and the conversation is more complex. It looks like >= 4 is where he automatically trusts you ("I better not regret this."), but there are checks for everything from 0-4 for other reactions from the VS (I think you always have the chance to charm or intimidate your way through it, even when they don't really trust you). It all depends how you weave your way through the dialogue. (There's also a condition for <= args, but I didn't look at the responses those lead to.)

I did find the response when killing Kaidan who doesn't like you, though:

Shepard: "Kaidan. What the hell were you thinking?"
Kaidan: "I was doing my duty."
Shepard: "You stood up for the wrong man."
Kaidan: "Better... better than killing the wrong man."

Shepard got burned!


As Nrieh said... charming...
The sophisticated wonders of coding Kaidan's mortability.

@Doodle > afternoon

Modifié par Mimitochan, 14 septembre 2012 - 11:16 .


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I LikeTo Doodle wrote...

Good afternoon/whateverItIsFerTehRestOvYou.


Hey!
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laikabaws wrote...

^Yup I experienced that...my heart was broken for an entire night (you crazy douche, Shep, you) :'D

@Aurora313 that happens to me a lot don't worry :3

More breakdancing



And silliness










Once Upon a Time
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I loved that moment....:wub:

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IllusiveManJr

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laikabaws wrote...

More breakdancing
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That's hilarious.

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Nice work decoding the logic behind the romances! Just confirming, both of my faithful Sheps and my Garrus-mance Shep (who never romanced Kaidan) got the flirting line after the ex-Scientists mission. I guess the Garrus romance shep was just always nice to him and hadn't locked in her romance at that point.

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Thin029 wrote...

Dear laika,
I love you!
Sincerely, Thin

Really? 
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Lol kidding...thanks :kissing:
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Also,
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NRieh

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Yeah yeah.
I'm actually annoyed by that "romance lock" variable.
How silly can that be? I mean what a lame way to code what love is.

uhm...I never thought I'd say it - but hey, it's a videogame. Computers do not read minds so far, they need to operate with variables and constants in order to process things. How else would game know whom to bring to your cabin before Cerberus?! 8P

And though coding is a meta-meta-gaming part - it's interesting to know how they modeled this or that. The more variables and operators - the more complex logic of events we have. Much same as with RL, actually.

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IllusiveManJr

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Oh, I feel like the new guy who just met a group of who all already know each other. Uhhhhh, Kaidan/MaleShep was probably my second favorite ME3 romance. I think Kaidan is an awesome character and was really glad he was available as a squadmate in ME3. I was sad when I couldn't recruit him in ME2. I wish he would've gotten more screen time in ME3.

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Mimitochan

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Nrieh wrote...

Yeah yeah.
I'm actually annoyed by that "romance lock" variable.
How silly can that be? I mean what a lame way to code what love is.

uhm...I never thought I'd say it - but hey, it's a videogame. 


Oh right, I forgot.

Computers do not read minds so far, they need to operate with variables and constants in order to process things. How else would game know whom to bring to your cabin before Cerberus?! 8P

And though coding is a meta-meta-gaming part - it's interesting to know how they modeled this or that. The more variables and operators - the more complex logic of events we have. Much same as with RL, actually.


I meant I didn't like the "lock romance" logic.
The fact that there is a specific event or set of events that determines a boolean value (i.e. referred to as TrueLove here by Laika). Of course, it's easier said than done, but why would the fact that you're actually romancing one character would cause other characters to behave differently towards your Shep?

EDIT> I meant too, that as far as i know, this boolean value cannot be turned back to "false" once set to "true" > thus the "lock" thing. I find the romance "score" logic a lot more interesting.

I never said this wasn't interesting, only that the overall logic seemed a bit simplistic.
But then, we're not talking about a dating sim here.
As you said, the Coup logic seems to be a lot more sophisticated, I just wished the romance logic had been as elaborate. 

Modifié par Mimitochan, 14 septembre 2012 - 12:33 .


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@theillusiveman11 Don't feel that way! All Kaidan fans are welcome :3 There was an influx of new posters the last couple of weeks, and they're posting a whole lot now.

Glad you think so too...not many people do :(

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Some welcoming dance perhaps?
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Modifié par laikabaws, 14 septembre 2012 - 12:18 .


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theillusiveman11 wrote...

Oh, I feel like the new guy who just met a group of who all already know each other. Uhhhhh, Kaidan/MaleShep was probably my second favorite ME3 romance. I think Kaidan is an awesome character and was really glad he was available as a squadmate in ME3. I was sad when I couldn't recruit him in ME2. I wish he would've gotten more screen time in ME3.


Welcome to the thread TIM, what was your favourite romance?

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Mimitochan wrote...

theillusiveman11 wrote...

Oh, I feel like the new guy who just met a group of who all already know each other. Uhhhhh, Kaidan/MaleShep was probably my second favorite ME3 romance. I think Kaidan is an awesome character and was really glad he was available as a squadmate in ME3. I was sad when I couldn't recruit him in ME2. I wish he would've gotten more screen time in ME3.


Welcome to the thread TIM, what was your favourite romance?


Liara and MaleShep, I just beat a playthrough with them. Although, after I beat ME3 with my Renegay Shepdept, I was saying that Kaidan was my favorite. So if I played through and romanced him again, I'd probably change my answer.

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oh TIM's here. heh, i see him alot in the MP section of the forum :P

Edit: Lol ToP of page 2600

i seem to be lucky.

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