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Talie A Marks wrote...

@Katie That's exactly what I fear.  "We meant Liara people.  Who'd romance Kaidan/Ashley?"  :pinched:


Yup, same here. "Liara fans, as a reward for romancing our favourite blue fetishfuel, you get to have a romance DLC and Liara's garunteed spot on the squad in ME3. Ashley fans, you get to see Ash with her hair down. Kaidan fans? Be glad we don't just swap him out for Ashley."

.............wow, yeah, all this Kaidan-withdrawl has gotten me really depressed. I need to think happy thoughts:

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Ahhhhh, that's better... <3

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Wow Isaac! Exactly how do you do that? Export the models somehow? Photomanips of screenshots? Whatever you do it makes him look even better than the actually ingame model. Excellent use of lighting.

Thank you sweetie (and Katie too <3). I'm posing the models & render them, but this time I played hella long in Photoshop fixing everything, enhancing lighting and manipulating colors etc, I'm happy with the results :happy:

Anyway, been away for a few days, any Kai news? I think I already know the answer :(

You have been away, you were conspicuous by your absence :o

Well, we are just doing what we do *exercising our patience* as is normal for Kaidan fans........ tweeting Kaidan at anyone who listen, that kind of thing... :P

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Jenova65 wrote...

IsaacShep wrote...

meonlyred wrote...

Wow Isaac! Exactly how do you do that? Export the models somehow? Photomanips of screenshots? Whatever you do it makes him look even better than the actually ingame model. Excellent use of lighting.

Thank you sweetie (and Katie too <3). I'm posing the models & render them, but this time I played hella long in Photoshop fixing everything, enhancing lighting and manipulating colors etc, I'm happy with the results :happy:

Anyway, been away for a few days, any Kai news? I think I already know the answer :(

You have been away, you were conspicuous by your absence :o

Well, we are just doing what we do *exercising our patience* as is normal for Kaidan fans........ tweeting Kaidan at anyone who listen, that kind of thing... :P

That's right. I remember asking "where all the old fans from first pages gone?" once somewhere closer to end of KAST 2, and now I don't see here many of people who answered.

Okay, some people found another interests and abandoned this place, some don't want spoilers, some might move to DA2 boards, but this gave me attack of paranoia. I must be sure my fellow forumites feeling well^_^

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mineralica wrote...

That's right. I remember asking "where all the old fans from first pages gone?" once somewhere closer to end of KAST 2, and now I don't see here many of people who answered.

Okay, some people found another interests and abandoned this place, some don't want spoilers, some might move to DA2 boards, but this gave me attack of paranoia. I must be sure my fellow forumites feeling well^_^


Right now I'm in lurk mode because I don't have too much to add to discussion (at least, nothing that I haven't said before), although it always makes me happy to see this thread active, and lots of fan art and fiction and twitter activity happening because of Kaidan fans.

I have a feeling that lots of familiar faces will return closer to the release date of ME3.

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@ Mineralica, Aveline and Donnic don't count cause they are npc's (and there's still a bit of a hardship in the beginning, adorable one, but they don't start off smoothly). Notice how the most well adjusted and least dramatic characters are the ones players cannot romance? I'd have to dig for that quote, but Gaider outright said that he was inspired by twilight when it came to romantic relationships between player character and npc's. and then there was Mary Kirby saying that real life relationships don't translate well into interesting video game romances, and that there need to be issues of some sort that players must overcome. some sort of personal drama.

bioware writers can spin tales exceptionally well, when they put their minds to it, but sometimes, I feel like they might be listening to only some of the fans, and not taking all the variety of opinions into consideration, only a certain majority. heck I've even seen Kaidan fans here, talking about how nice it would be if Kaidan would do something dramatic, jealous, Anders-like. all that talk about which LI will kick whose butt... desire to have someone normal, someone who doesn't need fixing - seems to get lost. or taken to the extreme of Jacob (and I like Jacob, but that man REALLY doesn't want to talk about himself, cause god forbid he talks about himself - oh no, he's whiny! >_>)


Yes, exactly.  I want mature arguments discussions about the relationship with make up sex make out sessions.:whistle:

@Mineralica.  THAT wasn't much of a yell session.  No, what were you thinking. Why did you think this was a good a idea.  Nothing along those lines.  Liara says something along the lines of sorry but what choice did I have.  Cerberus or Collectors.  :?

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I always wondered, not saying it's a bad thing but I wonder why Bioware placed Kaidan in one of the first screenshots, when all the demo stuff is Garrus/Liara.

Obviously it's great and made my day when it came out, but for them thinking there was no "love" for Kaidan, it did surprise me that they used him rather than Garrus. :unsure:

(Or perhaps they wanted to use the VS but new Ashley's new look may cause uproar, was Kaidan a safe bet?)

As I said not complaining its lovely having a gret res of his new face etc but makes me wonder...

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I agree Teen... the KAST had its quiet times, didn't it... And there are quite a few ladies there who have just stayed there for a variety of reasons, not least of which is to avoid spoilers, but also our old KAST was just such a comfortable place to be, the regulars were regular and it was like home in a way :)
I'm sure that as time goes on this will be the same, I mean you notice when folk aren't around and whatnot...
What we really need is something for people to discuss, like other fan threads have info that causes discussion, but we have nothing new to go on atm..

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Jenova65 wrote...

What we really need is something for people to discuss, like other fan threads have info that causes discussion, but we have nothing new to go on atm..

This. I wasn't surprised at all how fast Liara's thread has been catching up lately when they have new Liara screenshots and her character featured in every single demo and exclusive satues to discuss.  But Kai's thread is still #2 biggest character thread in ME3 forums so we're doing fine :police: His "some love but not much" fanbase doesn't even need new stuff to keep the page counter going :devil:

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IsaacShep wrote...

Jenova65 wrote...

What we really need is something for people to discuss, like other fan threads have info that causes discussion, but we have nothing new to go on atm..

This. I wasn't surprised at all how fast Liara's thread has been catching up lately when they have new Liara screenshots and her character featured in every single demo and exclusive satues to discuss.  But Kai's thread is still #2 biggest character thread in ME3 forums so we're doing fine :police: His "some love but not much" fanbase doesn't even need new stuff to keep the page counter going :devil:

Yeah and they have a lot to discuss with all that new stuff............. I am just................... bored of it now, you know? It maddens me, because what they are doing is alienating everyone else, to the point where she will be unjustifiably hated. She was one of my favourites but she is just rubbing on my last nerve, now and it isnt her.. it's BioWare, it feels like they are trolling us with her... <_<
It's like being forced to eat the same meal every day, even if you like it, there's going to be a day that the very sight of it makes you heave... :(

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ZombieGeisha wrote...

I always wondered, not saying it's a bad thing but I wonder why Bioware placed Kaidan in one of the first screenshots, when all the demo stuff is Garrus/Liara.

Obviously it's great and made my day when it came out, but for them thinking there was no "love" for Kaidan, it did surprise me that they used him rather than Garrus. :unsure:

(Or perhaps they wanted to use the VS but new Ashley's new look may cause uproar, was Kaidan a safe bet?)

As I said not complaining its lovely having a gret res of his new face etc but makes me wonder...

In my little fantasy world it was a hint ManShep will be finally able to be with Kai xD

Seriously though, maybe it was because they needed a male human squaddie (and Vega wasn't ready)? They always seem to make the poster squadmates be the opposites of each other -> in ME1, alien male Garrus was paired with female human Ash, in ME2 alien male Grunt/Thane were paired with female human Miranda. Considering Liara seems to be the poster girl for ME3, I say it's quite possible Kaidan (and maybe Vega too) will be paired with her reguraly in main promo shoots/posters. It's still early and the first screenshot with Liara, Kaidan & Sheploo is so far the only one major promo image released, all the other screens were just regular and whatnot.

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TeenZombie wrote...

mineralica wrote...

That's right. I remember asking "where all the old fans from first pages gone?" once somewhere closer to end of KAST 2, and now I don't see here many of people who answered.

Okay, some people found another interests and abandoned this place, some don't want spoilers, some might move to DA2 boards, but this gave me attack of paranoia. I must be sure my fellow forumites feeling well^_^


Right now I'm in lurk mode because I don't have too much to add to discussion (at least, nothing that I haven't said before), although it always makes me happy to see this thread active, and lots of fan art and fiction and twitter activity happening because of Kaidan fans.

I have a feeling that lots of familiar faces will return closer to the release date of ME3.


I check in here often, but there is not much for me to say most of the time. But even so I don't post here so much, I talk a lot with friends about Kaidan ^_^

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LOL, Jenova, I couldn't have said it better myself.

They can give us some Kaidan without making it a spoiler, we've already seen his new look. All they have to do is replace him with one of the other characters in the screenshots they've already released or what would really be nice is a picture of Kaidan like they did with Vega, showing his full on hotness.

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Wonder what will Kai's casual outfit look like, I love Vega's! <3

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IsaacShep wrote...

Wonder what will Kai's casual outfit look like, I love Vega's! <3


Shirtless? Nah, I should stop dreaming.

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IsaacShep wrote...

Jenova65 wrote...

What we really need is something for people to discuss, like other fan threads have info that causes discussion, but we have nothing new to go on atm..

This. I wasn't surprised at all how fast Liara's thread has been catching up lately when they have new Liara screenshots and her character featured in every single demo and exclusive satues to discuss.  But Kai's thread is still #2 biggest character thread in ME3 forums so we're doing fine :police: His "some love but not much" fanbase doesn't even need new stuff to keep the page counter going :devil:

Someone please explain me how Miranda's thread is both biggest and fast moving, where all info on her is "she has unfinished business with Shepard".

And yes, it's extremely pleasant to see this thread not only holding up, but also holding up well and not only by several posters... At least if any news would be published, I'll find this out by thread size very fast=]

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Talie A Marks wrote...

So, random question.  Do you think the any of the devs are actually married/partnered successfully?  Because they don't really come off as actually knowing how real relationships work or is this my overactive imagination? Again.


I know Patrick Weekes at least is married, and I believe his wife also works at Bioware.  I agree with KawaiiKatie that it's not fair to judge the Bioware writers' real life relationships on what they think a good fictional relationship is like.

I'll be the first to say that I do love well-done angst and drama in a relationship.  Carth and femRevan?  Can't get enough of it!  I'm also probably one of the few people here who actually liked the ending of DA:O and that there was no easy way out for Alistair and the Warden.  The heartbreak there really tugs on my heartstrings.  But I liked Kaidan's romance in ME1 too, precisely because it seemed so normal.  Sure, the "stuff" is hitting the fan all around them, but looking at just the development of the relationship itself, they're the kind of couple that could be very much like you, or somebody you know.  Well, until Bioware had to go throw a monkey wrench in all that with Horizon and the whole Lazarus Project thing :pinched:

Oh, and on the subject of height differences, I'm 5' 5" (rounding up) and my boyfriend is 6'.  I think it's a good height difference.  Enough that I can wear heels when I feel like getting dressed up without making myself taller than him, but not so much that it makes things awkward.  I think you can imagine the height difference between Shep and Kaidan to be whatever you want... it's hard to tell from the in-game models, and anyway, the reason those models are the height they are have very little to do with establishing a height difference and a lot more to do with convenience in animation.

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Chewin3 wrote...

IsaacShep wrote...

Wonder what will Kai's casual outfit look like, I love Vega's! <3


Shirtless? Nah, I should stop dreaming.

If it was up to my Shep, he would ban Kai from wearing any clothes on the Normandy :devil:

Anyway, back to casual outfit. I've compiled some reference pics of the new Alliance uniforms styles:
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Seems pretty unified, but there are differences. Obviously Vega only wears a short T-Shirt, exclusive to him from the Special Forces unit. Anderson & Shep both have long shirts and vests but both the shirts and vests are different, so hopefully it means Kai will have a unique variation of the unform as well.

Wonder if he will wear the vest or not? Or maybe he will have a tight T-Shirt too, like Vega muahahaha :devil:

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TeenZombie wrote...

Right now I'm in lurk mode because I don't have too much to add to discussion (at least, nothing that I haven't said before), although it always makes me happy to see this thread active, and lots of fan art and fiction and twitter activity happening because of Kaidan fans.

I have a feeling that lots of familiar faces will return closer to the release date of ME3.


Yep. Same here.

Until there's new info on Kaidan or Ash and not just on the usual suspects, I don't really have much to add to this thread.

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 Mass Effect's Facebook page said today is National Kiss Day (even though it's really on July 6th :huh:), and asked who we want to kiss from Mass Effect. Kaidaaaaaaaaaaaaaan. <3 I'd smooch him till he couldn't feel his face.

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Chaos715 wrote...

LOL, Jenova, I couldn't have said it better myself.

They can give us some Kaidan without making it a spoiler, we've already seen his new look. All they have to do is replace him with one of the other characters in the screenshots they've already released or what would really be nice is a picture of Kaidan like they did with Vega, showing his full on hotness.

Thank you :P
And I agree, it wouldn't *break* the game to give us a little snippet, an extra pic, or just hear his voice....... Ofc, that's asking too much as usual <_<:P

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I think this is worth re-posting, since this is pretty much how I feel about Mass Effect right now...

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IsaacShep wrote...
This. I wasn't surprised at all how fast Liara's thread has been catching up lately when they have new Liara screenshots and her character featured in every single demo and exclusive satues to discuss.  But Kai's thread is still #2 biggest character thread in ME3 forums so we're doing fine :police: His "some love but not much" fanbase doesn't even need new stuff to keep the page counter going :devil:

All we need to keep the Kaidan thread going is DevArt  pics and random musings about his style of underware. :P Thanks for posting those Alliance uniform pics. I had not seen them before, but love. :o I wouldn't mind seeing a little more about Mr. Vega at this point either... If his character isn't a total dick, I'm pretty sure my single Shep will be interested.


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Yeah and they have a lot to discuss with all that new stuff............. I am just................... bored of it now, you know? It maddens me, because what they are doing is alienating everyone else, to the point where she will be unjustifiably hated. She was one of my favourites but she is just rubbing on my last nerve, now and it isnt her.. it's BioWare, it feels like they are trolling us with her... <_<
It's like being forced to eat the same meal every day, even if you like it, there's going to be a day that the very sight of it makes you heave... :(

Sadly true. As I said before, I was always fairly indifferent toward Liara, but all the 'in your face' stuff is edging me ever closer to hate. :?

@Chylise, thanks for the FB link. I went and posted "Kaidan" on their wall. Every bit of support helps, right?

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@Chylise, thanks for the FB link. I went and posted "Kaidan" on their wall. Every bit of support helps, right?


I like to think so. :happy: Especially because it seems like Bioware does have people who sort through comments/posts/articles related to their games to get fan feedback.

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@Chylise, thanks for the FB link. I went and posted "Kaidan" on their wall. Every bit of support helps, right?

Absolutely. ME has been a popularity contest since day 1 and only popular characters recieve lots of attention from BW. Since we can't change the "popularity game", we must join and be good at "playing" it, take any chance to show the support for Kai! :happy:

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shelved 'VS/human squaddie' picture belongs to rabbitzoro btw, credit where credit is due :D

erm, I'll just repost that picture then, as I have nothing new ready and had a crappy day and don't feel like drawing ... unless you'd want sad little drama Kaidan

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