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[FireEye]

Sin-Vraal!

[Preie]

Lol.. that picture looks like:

1. What happened?
2. Well, "I better be going"
3. Oh man that was great, does she/he actually love me tho < I can see this inner thought all the time while talking to Kaidan

[Eccentrica Gallumbits]

FireEye wrote...



Sin-Vraal!

That's a lovely fanpic!

And Kaidan's wearing blue underwear, woohoo!! hawt 

[LadyofRivendell]

Too lazy to read the past few pages of argument, but I'd love some chocolate pastry with extra Kaidan

So I was browsing quotes from ME, and ran across a conversation I don't remember having:
Shepard: The Council represents more races than I thought. No wonder they're careful with newcomers.
Kaidan: They probably just want to keep everything running. It has to be hard keeping all these cultures working together.
Ashley: Or maybe they just don't like humans.
Shepard: Why not? We've got oceans, beautiful women, this emotion called love. According to the old vids, we have everything they want.
Kaidan: When you put it that way, there's no reason they wouldn't like you. I mean, us! Humans! Ma'am.

I thought that was really cute, and want to hear it in my game But where and how do you initiate it, does anyone know? I always play as Fem. Shep, who romances Kaidan, and brings him and Ashley with her everywhere.

[Graceyn]

LadyofRivendell wrote...

Too lazy to read the past few pages of argument, but I'd love some chocolate pastry with extra Kaidan

So I was browsing quotes from ME, and ran across a conversation I don't remember having:
Shepard: The Council represents more races than I thought. No wonder they're careful with newcomers.
Kaidan: They probably just want to keep everything running. It has to be hard keeping all these cultures working together.
Ashley: Or maybe they just don't like humans.
Shepard: Why not? We've got oceans, beautiful women, this emotion called love. According to the old vids, we have everything they want.
Kaidan: When you put it that way, there's no reason they wouldn't like you. I mean, us! Humans! Ma'am.

I thought that was really cute, and want to hear it in my game But where and how do you initiate it, does anyone know? I always play as Fem. Shep, who romances Kaidan, and brings him and Ashley with her everywhere.

After your initial meeting with the Council, go to Chora's Den to talk to Harkin.  He sends you to Garrus at the Med Clinic.  On your way to the Clinic, go by way of the upper markets and across that upstairs stretch.  Just past Emily Wong on your right is an open area to the windows, you should have a "Scenic View" trigger pop up at the window.  Just click it and enjoy [Edit:  Making Paragon conversation choices just to be safe].  It's a lovely scene I missed my first few playthroughs as well until I read about it.

I believe it doesn't happen after you've acquired Tali and become a Spectre, I think that is your one chance to trigger it.

Modifié par Graceyn, 27 septembre 2011 - 03:45 .

[jeweledleah]

when you are first on a citadel, before you finish the quests, there's an observation deck between med clinic and shopping area - right across from stairs to flux. you can click on the "use observation deck" I think it was and the cutscene starts. you have to have Ashley and Kaidna i na group, it doesn't trigger otherwise, and it only triggers before you get off the citadel - actualy I think it must be done before you get accepted into spectres.

its also a scene that shows that Kaidan (or Ash) were attracted to Shepard from the very start (Ashley has hilarious flirting dialogue with maleshep there as well)

bah, typing too slow.  oh well.

Modifié par jeweledleah, 27 septembre 2011 - 03:45 .

[Talie A Marks]

Bekkael wrote...

Graceyn wrote...

Bekkael wrote...

mineralica wrote...

^ Strange thing that I find "bitter about forced choices she had to make" renegade!Shepard the most fitting to ME2 situation.

I guess that makes sense. ME2 should be all about bitterness, after all. I'm certainly bitter.  My Shepard had a major hate for Cerberus in ME1, and if she hadn't been written into a corner in ME2, she would have shot all the Cerberus cronies, commandeered the SR2, gone and put a boot up the collective asses of the Council and Alliance, and gotten back to work with Anderson and Kaidan to deal with the imminent Reaper threat.

Alas, there is no option but to bend over for T.I.M.

I'll second that!  I hate, hated working "with" Cerberus.  Yeah, the Alliance is pissing me off these days too (among other things, see the Conviction comic - chains??), but I don't think working with Cerberus would ever be the right choice to any of my Shepards.

Mine either. It's fine if people want to roleplay that way, but the way stuff is written in ME2 made all my established Shepards behave totally OOC. You had to roleplay only one, rather narrow type of character (the kind that would take sh*t from Cerberus) and that's it. Really, I hated everything about the "story" of ME2. Miranda goes on about how they wanted to bring Shep back "exactly as you were". Well, um, okay, my Shepard would have put a bullet through your head first thing and hightailed it back to the Alliance, since that's who she was.

Meh. I need to quit rage-dwelling now though, and keep trying to think positive for ME3. I just hope the gods of BioWare heard our cries, and are sufficiently sated with all the tears shed over ME2 to want to make it up to us in ME3.

Really?  My Shep wanted to find out what was going on and if they messed her up somehow.  But then, she is an evil Genius somedays.

[LadyofRivendell]

Thanks you two! I'll have to find it next time I play. Just out of curiosity, what does Ashley say? I love it when Kaidan acts a little awkward I think games need more male characters like him. I'm tired of buff, badass meatheaded men in video games.

[Ellyria]

LadyofRivendell wrote...

Thanks you two! I'll have to find it next time I play. Just out of curiosity, what does Ashley say? I love it when Kaidan acts a little awkward I think games need more male characters like him. I'm tired of buff, badass meatheaded men in video games.

Ash says something about how Shepard isn't going to get her into a tin foil skirt.  Kaidan's reaction is pretty amusing.

[jeweledleah]

LadyofRivendell wrote...

Thanks you two! I'll have to find it next time I play. Just out of curiosity, what does Ashley say? I love it when Kaidan acts a little awkward I think games need more male characters like him. I'm tired of buff, badass meatheaded men in video games.

[LadyofRivendell]

jeweledleah wrote...

LadyofRivendell wrote...

Thanks you two! I'll have to find it next time I play. Just out of curiosity, what does Ashley say? I love it when Kaidan acts a little awkward I think games need more male characters like him. I'm tired of buff, badass meatheaded men in video games.

Coincidentally, I just finished watching that video a minute ago. Why would anyone wear a tin foil skirt?

[Talie A Marks]

Preie wrote...

Talie A Marks wrote...

I was agreeing with you somewhat.  Killing? Who said anything about killing Kaidan.  I sure as heck didn't.  I was saying maybe it was a choice Shep was going to have to make in the course of the game (ME3).  A choice Kaidan couldn't make, like he was unconscious.

Well there is a disconnect in your thought there 8(.

If in any way Kaidan were to decide to upgrade, it would be extremely risky and death would or could be a possibility. It would actually make the decision way more difficult.

I went back a page and what is with the arguing haha. This is a fan thread 8).

Nobody did the list tho. My feelings is hurt

Edit: ToP Quick! Don't know how to add a photo 8(

Not disagreeing with you.  Just pointing out another alternative.  Right, it would be extremely risky to upgrade, but the alternative is to dose him with OE.  And OE causes brain damage.  Darned if you do, darned if you don't.  My Shep would probably choose to have the upgrade for Kaidan because the other option is to poison him.  Not a good choice and she'll need him healthy and fully functional for, um, the War...Yeah, the WAR.  

Edit.  I think you should read my entire post again (the first one).  You seem to have read into the post something I didn't put there.

Modifié par Talie A Marks, 27 septembre 2011 - 04:44 .

[SpaceinMind]

I'm thinking about transferring my Charlie Shep into ME2, but I'm still enamored with ME1 Kaidan romance. Horizon hurts every time, especially for an Alliance loyalist like Charlie.

Modifié par SpaceinMind, 27 septembre 2011 - 04:58 .

[Preie]

Yep.. like I said previously... Bioware pretty much said.

"Here is the knife. You will need it to stab your heart out repeatedly on Horizon"

[Silver77nz]

Has anyone else wondered why WIlson tried to kill Shepard? Who was he working for? Was he trying to give the body to Shadow Broker? I think he first tried to kill shep before Miranda intervened to sedate him/her.
*SPOILER IF YOU HAVENT PLAY LOSB*
Also if you look at vids Anderson is talking to a cerberus agent. Have you seen that vid? Why and when was he talking to one? For the last 2 yrs was Kaidan really investigating Cerberus and that is why his file is very classified? Sorry for all the questions!!

[Talie A Marks]

Silverpearl1977 wrote...

Has anyone else wondered why WIlson tried to kill Shepard? Who was he working for? Was he trying to give the body to Shadow Broker? I think he first tried to kill shep before Miranda intervened to sedate him/her.
*SPOILER IF YOU HAVENT PLAY LOSB*
Also if you look at vids Anderson is talking to a cerberus agent. Have you seen that vid? Why and when was he talking to one? For the last 2 yrs was Kaidan really investigating Cerberus and that is why his file is very classified? Sorry for all the questions!!

*spoiler*

Lair implies that Wilson was the Shadow Broker's agent and SB were trying to destroy Cerberus via having the Resurrection project fail.

I was wondering why Anderson was talking and then assualting a Cerberus agent too.

Guess we find out in ME3.  Is it March yet????

Modifié par Talie A Marks, 27 septembre 2011 - 05:17 .

[Talie A Marks]

Oops.  Can't get right font color for invisible comment:pinched:

Modifié par Talie A Marks, 27 septembre 2011 - 05:16 .

[Silver77nz]

Talie A Marks wrote...

Silverpearl1977 wrote...

Has anyone else wondered why WIlson tried to kill Shepard? Who was he working for? Was he trying to give the body to Shadow Broker? I think he first tried to kill shep before Miranda intervened to sedate him/her.
*SPOILER IF YOU HAVENT PLAY LOSB*
Also if you look at vids Anderson is talking to a cerberus agent. Have you seen that vid? Why and when was he talking to one? For the last 2 yrs was Kaidan really investigating Cerberus and that is why his file is very classified? Sorry for all the questions!!

*spoiler*

Lair implies that Wilson was the Shadow Broker's agent and SB were trying to destroy Cerberus via having the Resurrection project fail.

I was wondering why Anderson was talking and then assualting a Cerberus agent too.

Guess we find out in ME3.  Is it March yet????

Yea I also thought maybe their was a SB connection with Wilson. Who else would want to try that with a teroist organization?! Yea I was watching the vids and I saw Anderson attack that Cerbeus agent too and went So Anderson knows something they aren't telling us. God so many unanswered questions...March is too far away arghh!

[Silver77nz]

Bekkael wrote...

Exactly. The whole game was bewildering for me. They establish Cerberus as the most vile, reprehensible, awful organization (and then reinforce that with the Cerberus missions in ME2, including Overlord, which made me cry!), then expect all Shepards to suck it up and work with them, no matter what? Sorry, my Shepards don't operate in an amoral zone. Is it any wonder so many fans of ME1 left the franchise after ME2 came out?

I'm still hanging onto hope with bloody fingernails for ME3 though.

I did the dl content as it came out and when I did Overlord I was so shocked and disgusted at the end. It made me hate Cerberus even more. Plus I hate how he always sent those smug, half ass apology e-mails justifying what a monster he is! Sorry Shep you had to see the end of Overlord but bla bla bla...won't say anything more just in case someone hasn't played Overlord.

[Bekkael]

Silverpearl1977 wrote...

Bekkael wrote...

Exactly. The whole game was bewildering for me. They establish Cerberus as the most vile, reprehensible, awful organization (and then reinforce that with the Cerberus missions in ME2, including Overlord, which made me cry!), then expect all Shepards to suck it up and work with them, no matter what? Sorry, my Shepards don't operate in an amoral zone. Is it any wonder so many fans of ME1 left the franchise after ME2 came out?

I'm still hanging onto hope with bloody fingernails for ME3 though.

I did the dl content as it came out and when I did Overlord I was so shocked and disgusted at the end. It made me hate Cerberus even more. Plus I hate how he always sent those smug, half ass apology e-mails justifying what a monster he is! Sorry Shep you had to see the end of Overlord but bla bla bla...won't say anything more just in case someone hasn't played Overlord.

I just replayed Overlord yesterday, and it freshened my hate for T.I.M./Cerberus. I was playing as a renegade Shep, but I still couldn't pick the renegade choices at the end of that mission. My eldest daughter watched me play it, and she said it was the stuff of nightmares. I agree.  And the sound effects were majorly scary/creepy. I needed a strong dose of kittens and bunnies after I finished it...or Kaidan hugs.

And a pox upon insomnia; I should be sleeping now.

[FireEye]

jeweledleah wrote...

when you are first on a citadel, before you finish the quests, there's an observation deck between med clinic and shopping area - right across from stairs to flux. you can click on the "use observation deck" I think it was and the cutscene starts. you have to have Ashley and Kaidna i na group, it doesn't trigger otherwise, and it only triggers before you get off the citadel - actualy I think it must be done before you get accepted into spectres.

Very specifically: you can do it as soon as you have access to the wards and hit that platform, and you have to do it before you pick up Garrus or Wrex.  Even if you have Kaidan and  Ashley in the party, you'll get cut off by a (very loving) couple if you go there after you've picked up anyone else.

[Jenova65]

I think I've only missed that scene once and I reloaded

[Aslanasadi]

Jenova65 wrote...

I think I've only missed that scene once and I reloaded

I missed the scene in my first playthrough and was surprised when I saw it on Youtube...lol...but after that I've never missed it again 

[syllogi]

Talie A Marks wrote...

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If you want to the text to match the color of the background, I think this should do it: [ color =rgb (51, 51, 51) ] text [ / color ] (with spaces removed), which should look like this:

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Keep in mind that if anyone quotes your post, or if you edit your post, the color tags will be removed and the spoiler will be visible.

Modifié par TeenZombie, 27 septembre 2011 - 11:26 .

[Jenova65]

I caught it on my first, lol.. it was later when I was trying to *mix it up a bit* that I missed it... fastest reload ever.... (well.. not EVER because you know... handing over Fenris just *to see* and leaving Kaidan on Virmire for the same reason..)
ETA ~



By ~ Martik0

Modifié par Jenova65, 27 septembre 2011 - 11:29 .