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[jeweledleah]

Naamah_bb wrote...

jeweledleah wrote...

Raphael Sbarge plays a lot of different roles, he enjoyed his acting challenges, but it says nothing of character consistency. I saw the spoilers as well. not happy with the direction at all. keep telling myself - its only a draft, some things may be improved yet, but... that's wistful thinking, really.

I'll probably enjoy the game anyways, especially with Shepards that are with LI's that are favored by developers or with new ME3 LI's. but I have very little hope left that my Kaidanmancing canon will get the conclusion she deserves.

I don't know... I'm not so pessimistic... as I said before, I would be actually disappointed if everything was easy and perfect and fluffly and stuff. I think it has to be an epic story, regardless how much you have to put effort in it.

see there's that assumption that I want easy and perfect and fluffy.  i don't.  I just don't want melodrama. the situation is dire enough as it is, I want my Shepard and Kaidan to have an option of being freaking adults and resolve their misunderstanding post haste so that they could get back to businessof saving the galaxy from homocidal machine race.  I've read enough romance novels to come to absolutely despize the "big misunderstanding" trope. not to mention that whole things developers were talking about, the relationship troubles coming to bite you at the worst possible moment?

Kaidan from ME1 woudln't let it happen.  he woudln't allow a personal relatioship to interfear with duty.

meh.

I guess I'm just afraid of repeat of Anders.  I used to love him in DAA.  DA2 Anders is my least favorite character, ever, and the only character that I actively hate.  didn't think it was possible for me to hate fictional characters.  I was wrong.

I don't want to end up hating Kaidan, like Bioware seems to want us to.

Edited. @Jaer.  I'm too invested into too manycharacters as well as the story, to give ME3 a complete pass.  but I know how you feel.  depending on the spoilers that will show up after game release, I may end up waiting for a substantial discount before buying it.

edited again, for shameless self promotion

Modifié par jeweledleah, 17 novembre 2011 - 04:55 .

[thelele]

JeffZero wrote...

Hi Theresa!

Well I can't say I'm remotely scared of ME3, but like Isaac I'm really in it for literally every single character and arc and not just certain ones. I know many members of individual characters' fandoms pin them first and foremost, and everything else secondary, so results may vary. To me, even if they screw up Kaidan (which I don't really think they will, but it's obviously possible) I don't think I'll walk away from ME3 disappointed; they'd need to screw up a great deal, and the various spoilery tidbits I've heard don't tend to tell me that.

I hope you ultimately come to see ME3 as a great finale. Warm wishes.

True true, I really do like all the characters. I guess I'm just really invested in Kaidan's arc because he's one of my favorites or even my most favorite I'll still buy ME3 no matter what though. I just hope every character receives good writing...
At the very least, I'm real happy that he'll be in ME3 a LOT from what I've heard. I love ME2, but I did miss the battlefield flirting. 

Thanks for the warm welcomes, everyone

Modifié par thelele, 17 novembre 2011 - 04:58 .

[sesheta255]

jeweledleah wrote...

see there's that assumption that I want easy and perfect and fluffy.  i don't.  I just don't want melodrama. the situation is dire enough as it is, I want my Shepard and Kaidan to have an option of being freaking adults and resolve their misunderstanding post haste so that they could get back to businessof saving the galaxy from homocidal machine race.  I've read enough romance novels to come to absolutely despize the "big misunderstanding" trope. not to mention that whole things developers were talking about, the relationship troubles coming to bite you at the worst possible moment?

Kaidan from ME1 woudln't let it happen.  he woudln't allow a personal relatioship to interfear with duty.

meh.

I guess I'm just afraid of repeat of Anders.  I used to love him in DAA.  DA2 Anders is my least favorite character, ever, and the only character that I actively hate.  didn't think it was possible for me to hate fictional characters.  I was wrong.

I don't want to end up hating Kaidan, like Bioware seems to want us to.

Edited. @Jaer.  I'm too invested into too manycharacters as well as the story, to give ME3 a complete pass.  but I know how you feel.  depending on the spoilers that will show up after game release, I may end up waiting for a substantial discount before buying it.

^^ I'm in 100% agreement with this.

I fell in love with ME1 because the story and characters sucked me in, unfortunately ME2's lack of story and railroading killed a lot of my enthusiasm for ME as a series.  The railroading and forced friendships with characters that my Shepard wasn't friends with really cheesed me right off, as did that fact that my Shepard couldn't express her (or my) disappointment with a certain character because of choices made by that character after her death.  ME3 seems like more of the same to me from what I've heard from bioware and the spoilers.  I made myself think optimistically about ME2 for a while but once news about ME3 started trickling through my pessimism kicked back in, and the spoilers did nothing to allay my fears for Kaidan's character at all.

[JeffZero]

I loved ME2 just as much as ME1, but I'm not blind to the reasons why many felt otherwise. I think for folks like me ME3 will be just fine, but those who disliked ME2 will be a lot less likely to see as much good in 3 as 1 provided. Certainly.

[sjmlka1]

I am very curious about how the romance with Kaiden is going to play out. Everyone of you have a awesome handle on the situation and the emotions that are going to be involved in this or with any reconcilliation. Both Kaiden and Shep have alot of issues to work out, something that Bioware hinted at when the talked about how being faithful was going to come into play at the climax of ME3 major battle. I just hope Bioware doesn't underplay the dynamics of Kaiden relationship with Shep and have a bit of meaningful dialog instead of for instance: Kaiden: "Shepard, I know that this is the first time we've been able to talk about us." Shepard Options: 1) Forget about it, just KISS ME! 2) It all worked out at the end, now KISS ME!! 3) Ah hell Kaiden! Just take me to BED!!!" Don't get me wrong passion is great but something with more feeling.

Modifié par sjmlka1, 17 novembre 2011 - 05:05 .

[rapscallioness]

will. not. look. at. spoilers.

will. not. look. at. spoilers.

Honestly, I think I love the torture of the anticipation.

I'm totally confused now. I don't know what to expect. All these spoilers out, and I'm back at square one. lol.

I'd like to have some idea about what's happening w/Kaidan, a theme/vibe about it. But w/out Knowing exactly what's gonna happen. Sheesh. Opinions on wats going down are so widely divergent. I can't get a handle on it. I can't pick up the scent. It's all over the place.

I mean, I love some good Tension in a romance story. The whole I love you; I hate you; I hate that I love you is fun for awhile, but it needs to work out in the end.

No sadistic, fan abuse. Plz, BW, don't punish me for simply loving the character that you created for me to love. And it's kinda a weird place for a fan to be when it seems you like a character more than the folks that created it. (that they make fun of the Ash/Kaidan--altho they say they don't, we know. and that kinda sucks. that's...suck-y).

Does something Wicked this way come?

[solvill]

I was "spoiled" only a little so i know what will happen with Kaidan but I don't know why, what his reason behind his actions so its hard to judge if it will be ooc or not ( but on the other hand why we always have to find excuses for bioware bad writting). I never mind Kaidan shouting at Shep on Horizon I cant keep my cool as well when its about ppl I care about and as u know we r all fools in love so acting a little ooc is normal

[rapscallioness]

As far as this "Thing" that's gonna happen w/Kaidan, is this from a default playthru? No import, or past behavior affecting it? Because how you've played b4 should have some affect on whatever this is that happens....right?

[Naamah_bb]

I think the situation is default but the outcome is vastly different regarding how you played out ME1 & 2... that is my idea anyway.

[rapscallioness]

@Naamah: I hope so.

I've had about my fill of feeling completely powerless to change anything after recently playing DA2.

Ugh, they ripped my heart out a few times with that one. That's what I get for going into games blind.

[Naamah_bb]

Well that's the main reason i peeked several times in the spoilers. I want to know what to expect. Not all of it, just some stuff that was bothering me. I'm to emotionally involved to wait to buy the game and then have my heart ripped out 

[rapscallioness]

Naamah_bb wrote...

Well that's the main reason i peeked several times in the spoilers. I want to know what to expect. Not all of it, just some stuff that was bothering me. I'm to emotionally involved to wait to buy the game and then have my heart ripped out 

lol, i know, right?  i do love that fresh feel, but i hate crying like a completely boob over a video game. And, yes, i have cried. it's embarrassing and unseemly, but there it is.

@daniella okay, this...this is fair enough. this i can deal with. thnx

[rapscallioness]

TheDaniellasaur wrote...

I think if you're renegade, then not so good things will happen to your characters or if people die at the end of ME2 then things shall change in ME3 but if youre paragon and no one died then.. things will be good.

Oh, Lud. The renegades are gonna B*tch to high heaven. they already think paragons are the favored child of BW.

Maybe that's true...idk. or maybe, it's just that certain things happen when you behave a certain way.

As far as losing characters in the SM; i lost char. at first, but damn if i didn't replay that thing until i got everyone out alive. i couldn't leave that as it was even if i wanted to.

[leighzard]

TheDaniellasaur wrote...

Ive read the spoilers but i dont want to reveal anything that would ruin anything but i will say that what you do throughout the games does make an impact. def does. especially the relationships.

First of all, you guys have been really busy.  And it's depressing in here.

Second, I'm never cheating on Kaidan again.  I thought it might be fun to have a pt where Shep hooked up with someone after he basically broke up with her on Horizon, and then there could be some drama and fights over her and whatnot, but on second thought, no.  Not happenening.

About Kaidan's character development.  I think it would be pretty lame if he were exactly the same as he is in ME.  He's been through so much if he were all half smiles and rainbows it would be unbelieveable.  I don't think this means we can't have a happy ending with him.  Deep down he's still him, just with a little extra baggage.  And I'm sure Shep can learn to love him baggage and all.

I mean, even Anders offers to run off with you after he blew up the Chantry, so you can have little rogue mage babies together.  And DA2 was really just the most ridiculous game ever. 

Daniella - Nice pic.  They're totally about to make out.
Theresa - Welcome

[JeffZero]

I'm one of those bastards who kills a couple of squadmates during the SM almost every time. I like the added realism (IMO; please don't tear me apart over this if you disagree), even if it requires metagaming. Which is not something I particularly enjoy doing, but I make an exception for something like the SM.

[JeffZero]

And yeah, I've totally cried over several games. I think it's a good thing. The emotional investment has to be there to bring me to tears.

[syllogi]

jeweledleah wrote...

see there's that assumption that I want easy and perfect and fluffy.  i don't.  I just don't want melodrama. the situation is dire enough as it is, I want my Shepard and Kaidan to have an option of being freaking adults and resolve their misunderstanding post haste so that they could get back to businessof saving the galaxy from homocidal machine race.  I've read enough romance novels to come to absolutely despize the "big misunderstanding" trope. not to mention that whole things developers were talking about, the relationship troubles coming to bite you at the worst possible moment?

Kaidan from ME1 woudln't let it happen.  he woudln't allow a personal relatioship to interfear with duty.

This is where I'm at too, at least at the moment.  There's no good reason for the Kaidan we know from ME1 to act the way he is portrayed in those files, even IF he has been "dumped" or "cheated on."  If I can go see a movie with my ex for the sake of my kid, I think a Systems Alliance Major can figure out how to compartmentalize his feelings when the fate of humanity is at stake.

I really don't care about the romance related spoilers regarding Kaidan if the rest are true.  If this new characterization is in the game, no amount of fanservice is going to make him appealing again.

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Modifié par TeenZombie, 17 novembre 2011 - 06:07 .