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[syllogi]

jeweledleah wrote...

I wish people, bioware included would stop calling it cheating >_>

"Cheating" sounds more EXTREME than "two adults who drift apart when separated by unforeseen circumstances and misunderstandings that may or may not be able to be resolved by communication."

EDIT:  and yes, VelvetRue's new piece is AWESOME:

Modifié par TeenZombie, 18 novembre 2011 - 08:49 .

[Chignon]

TheDaniellasaur wrote...

First of all, what i said before was just my opinion (about him not being loyal etc, the first part was true). I'm not 100% whether he stays loyal to you or not. It was just my opinion on what consequences there may be.

Then you should've phrased it differently. Starting with "I know that ..."  is bound to confuse other people.

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jeweledleah wrote...

I wish people, bioware included would stop calling it cheating >_>

Uh, was that directed at me? Sorry. I did use quotation marks, though.

Modifié par Chignon, 18 novembre 2011 - 08:50 .

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TeenZombie wrote...

jeweledleah wrote...

I wish people, bioware included would stop calling it cheating >_>

"Cheating" sounds more EXTREME than "two adults who drift apart when separated by unforeseen circumstances and misunderstandings that may or may not be able to be resolved by communication."

That certainly runs the risk of tldr. How about they were on a break?

[sakuragrrl]

TheDaniellasaur wrote...

You know when Femshep says something like good to see you Kaidan, how have you been? or whatever she says, i really can't remember. But yeah, does anyone else cringe and think she really should've said something like i've miss you?

That was the lamest line ever. I like seeing Kaidan but the dialog severly lacks. 

Modifié par sakuragrrl, 18 novembre 2011 - 08:53 .

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jeweledleah wrote...

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ZombieGeisha wrote...

IsaacShep wrote...

I've seen a lot "FemShep choses Garrus" comics like that. Never got why Garrusmancers seem to target & ridicule Kaidan so much.

I was reading this fanfic the other day, FemShepxGarrus was quite smutty and she wrote how Kaidan's "performance" was rubbish.

People really took Horizon badly...

lol. Must have been the reach.

I will never understand the need some poeple have to trash the EX.  I mean, you chose him/her.  so either you are pretty much admiting that you have horrible taste in partners, or you are just trying to convince yourself, you did the right thing by dumping them.  meh

Kaidan dolphin.. oh man....:unsure:

Modifié par fdgvdddvdfdfbdfb, 18 novembre 2011 - 08:52 .

[Ellyria]

fdgvdddvdfdfbdfb wrote...

TeenZombie wrote...

jeweledleah wrote...

I wish people, bioware included would stop calling it cheating >_>

"Cheating" sounds more EXTREME than "two adults who drift apart when separated by unforeseen circumstances and misunderstandings that may or may not be able to be resolved by communication."

That certainly runs the risk of tldr. How about they were on a break?

*rubs hands together eagerly* Thanks for giving me the excuse to post THIS!

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Chylise wrote...

fdgvdddvdfdfbdfb wrote...

TeenZombie wrote...

jeweledleah wrote...

I wish people, bioware included would stop calling it cheating >_>

"Cheating" sounds more EXTREME than "two adults who drift apart when separated by unforeseen circumstances and misunderstandings that may or may not be able to be resolved by communication."

That certainly runs the risk of tldr. How about they were on a break?

*rubs hands together eagerly* Thanks for giving me the excuse to post THIS!

You read me like a preschool book.

Edit: What's with the title change?

Modifié par fdgvdddvdfdfbdfb, 18 novembre 2011 - 08:56 .

[Fault Girl]

I dont see it as cheating, but what other word can be used? I seriously can't think of any. <_<

Also again with the spoilers, some can get taken out of context. So if it isn't written in stone we need to make sure everyone states that it is their interpretation of what could or is going to happen if we talk about it. If we think thoughts are facts then there's going to be miscommunication.

[jeweledleah]

no no no Chignon, your quotation marks were perfect, and I definitely didn't direct it at you, just at fans in general.

I like TeenZombie's definition.

also - consequences for cheating as hinted at - would be IMO out of character for Kaidan, the same guy who tells Shepard that their relationship cannot jeopardize the ship dynamic and their duty.

edited - a different word that can be used - is "moving on"

also - I wanted to post this since yesterday so here it is.  he.. BSN is going crazy today with linking images, apparently

Modifié par jeweledleah, 18 novembre 2011 - 09:00 .

[LuluMae]

Chignon wrote...

LuluMae wrote...

-snip-

Kaidan will be on Shepard's squad regardless of the relationship status. There will be consequences for "cheating", however.

Thanks for the answer. Honestly, the only reason I call it cheating is that it is the most widely used term. I already have a Shepard who has moved on and will remain with her ME2 LI and I was wondering if it would be worth it storywise to make another who does not remain loyal out of spite but decides that she still loves Kaidan and wants to try again with him in 3.

@TheDaniellasaur  Thanks for the clarification as well. Since it's not for sure I'll go ahead with her. For science!

Modifié par LuluMae, 18 novembre 2011 - 08:58 .

[Ellyria]

fdgvdddvdfdfbdfb wrote...

Chylise wrote...

fdgvdddvdfdfbdfb wrote...

TeenZombie wrote...

jeweledleah wrote...

I wish people, bioware included would stop calling it cheating >_>

"Cheating" sounds more EXTREME than "two adults who drift apart when separated by unforeseen circumstances and misunderstandings that may or may not be able to be resolved by communication."

That certainly runs the risk of tldr. How about they were on a break?

*rubs hands together eagerly* Thanks for giving me the excuse to post THIS!

You read me like a preschool book.

I'm assuming that was your intent. In that case... well played. 

[sakuragrrl]

Lyriel25 wrote...

Rorschachinstein wrote...
 

Courtesy of Jho.

Well Hellooo Mr. Alenko! This is my favorite pic of him. 

[Chignon]

TheDaniellasaur wrote...

I made a mistake. sorry -.-

Hey, it's no problem. It's just better to clarify or some people might get the wrong idea.

LuluMae wrote...

Thanks for the answer. Honestly, the only reason I call it cheating is that it is the most widely used term. I already have a Shepard who has moved on and will remain with her ME2 LI and I was wondering if it would be worth it storywise to make another who does not remain loyal out of spite but decides that she still loves Kaidan and wants to try again with him in 3.

You're welcome. Well, BioWare did use the "cheating" terminology so it's only natural that people would as well.

jeweledleah wrote...

no no no Chignon, your quotation marks were perfect, and I definitely didn't direct it at you, just at fans in general.

I like TeenZombie's definition.

also - consequences for cheating as hinted at - would be IMO out of character for Kaidan, the same guy who tells Shepard that their relationship cannot jeopardize the ship dynamic and their duty.

edited - a different word that can be used - is "moving on"

Phew. I was worried there for a second!



Concerning the consequence, I couldn't agree with you more!

[Nimrel]

I'm guessing it's not safe to catch up since last night, if I'm still in spoiler avoidance mode?

[Kaidan Fan]

Spoilers everywhere? This is a spoiler thread now? 

[ames4u]

Eshaye wrote...

FireEye wrote...


That's ignoring how if you rebuild Shepard's brain, it's still a brand new brain (or partially brand new brain), which means it still isn't going to be the same person.  Unless Wilson did some freaky magic to bring Shepard's soul back from the Great Beyond.

So, yeah - ME2-ME3 Kaidan resumed romance (that wasn't started from scratch) has majorly unpleasant implications to me.  But that's just me, so...

That's the thing if we start getting any deeper into this we start getting into the meta physical and that can get into a very lengthy debate on what exactly constitutes a soul and so on.. In my own head I meta gamed it that Shepard's soul was asked to go back to her 'body' by some sort of spirit being (angel or whatever you may believe in) otherwise the thing Cerberus would have revived would have been some sort of zombie Shepard thing. 
 I think we can easily have very different ways of explaining it.

Let's just be completely honest with ourselves ladies and gents. The whole resurrecting Shepard via Lazarus project is nothing short of Deux Ex Machina. That's it. There's no 'surprise! Your a clone!' plot twist waiting around the corner. And I'll be pretty damn surprised if Casey does pull this out of thin air, but I find it highly unlikely. Both Miranda and Jacob straight out told Shepard that cloning was not an option because of the severe ramifications that tended to occur during cloning. (altered personality being the main issue) Tim wanted Shepard whole and sane and by god and any other beneficient spirit in the ME universe, that's what he bloody got. Miranda's too much of a perfectionist to allow for such sloppy work and there's no way they'd spend 2 years and six day's cloning Shepard.

And even if you did somehow clone them, how would you explain the memories? That's the only part I can't quite figure out. As far as I know you can't implant memories unless a Reaper is indoctrinating you as shown on the sidequest with the prothean artifact in ME2.  I do however share your views on the regenerating the brain part though. Surely, some form of damage had to be done? Memory loss even? But again, Deux Ex Machina.

I'm too busy sh*tting bricks thinking that Shepard's been made into something like Saren.  Or at least, been given the potential to become like Saren. Do not want!!

These comments aren't meant to inflame or put down either by the way-it's just a state of opinion on my part. Feel free to retaliate. *hides*

[jeweledleah]

Jtav wrote a great explanation for memories and personality in general. Graybox.

[ames4u]

thelele wrote...

Fiery Phoenix wrote...

ZombieGeisha wrote...

That was the one thing about ME2 I hated, sometimes you'd choose a line and she'd say something completely different.

Dialogue wheel: "I want you, Thane."
Spoken line: "I'm here for you, Thane. Whatever you need."

When I saw that 'I want you, Thane' was an option I was like... what? Did I accidentally romance him or something? Then when I actually chose it, I cringed a bit.  

You think that's bad? I thought it said 'I want TO' and chose it by accident.  I promptly ended the conversation and reloaded. That's what I get for not getting the HD cable out. 

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I have no idea why they do that. Sometimes the "paraphrases" aren't even shorter than the spoken bit. WHY ARE YOU TRYING TO TRICK ME BIOWARE!!

[Lyriel25]

thelele wrote...

Fiery Phoenix wrote...

ZombieGeisha wrote...

That was the one thing about ME2 I hated, sometimes you'd choose a line and she'd say something completely different.

Dialogue wheel: "I want you, Thane."
Spoken line: "I'm here for you, Thane. Whatever you need."

When I saw that 'I want you, Thane' was an option I was like... what? Did I accidentally romance him or something? Then when I actually chose it, I cringed a bit.  

I chose what I thought was the 'neutral' option, we had a lovely conversation... and then he called me a pet name at the end. Ninjamancing Drell! I had to go back to a previous save because I still hadn't caught on to the fact that practically any meaningful conversation after a loyalty mission was the romance line. Bleh.

[Silver77nz]

sakuragrrl wrote...

Silverpearl1977 wrote...

Wow I actually read 15 pages! I've read the spoilers and Raphel Sbarge was right there is A LOT more action between Shepard and Kaidan. Also there are some very beautiful romantic moments that make your heart melt. Every relationship has it's up and downs. Also think about everything Kaidan has been through. I can say honestly someone dying an unexpected death does change you. It changes how you view yourself and the world around you. It did to me. Kaidan has to sort out all sorts of crap to think about. This is a couple who have not been together for 3 yrs. We all know he is a very passionate man and that is what made us love him. He got his heart broken before and he is just being cautious. The challenges I read is so worth the very beautiful written love parts in the story.

See I like where you are coming from especially having not read the spoilers. Everyone else I feel is taking this way too seriously. But everyone is entitiled to their own opinion and own belief. But Your perspective is very well thought out and makes alot of sense.

Why TY That is how I see it! Plus I'm sure they are still questioning if Cerberus did something to Shepard. It will work out based on other things I read....unless you don't want it too:blink:. I've read 3 very beautiful romantic moments and I was like OMG I will just melt into a puddle when he says that:wub:

[sesheta255]

I guess it depends on how you look at it as to whether it was 'cheating' or not. To me personally, it was cheating. Shepard may have been dead for 2 years but it doesn't feel that long to her and even if she took the Horizon scene as a break up it didn't take her long to fall for someone else.

I even have doubts as to whether she actually believes she was dead. On Horizon my Shepard uses the response "I was in some kind of coma while Cerberus rebuilt me" she never actually tells Kaidan that she was dead so I can't blame him for thinking she has ben lying to him for the past 2 years.

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Modifié par sesheta255, 18 novembre 2011 - 09:59 .