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[Chignon]

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Modifié par Chignon, 05 juillet 2011 - 08:13 .

[Jenova65]

Upsettingshorts wrote...

KOTOR doesn't really pick up until you finish the tutorial (the ship) and the first planet (Taris).

The sex of the protagonist doesn't matter that much beyond who your romance - if anyone - Carth or Bastila. I'd genuinely recommend a male PC because of the MAINPLOT IMPORTANCE of Bastila.

However, if you're going to play through the game twice (light and dark side are really different experiences) then I'd recommend Male PC Darkside and Female PC Lightside, for reasons I really can't explain without major endgame/romance spoilers.

If you're just playing once, I'd go Male PC Lightside as that's pretty good and also happens to be the "canon" (TOR says so).  Just finished a playthrough of that for livestream last week.

Ex.............................cept.....................
I hate that cow  
Honestly, I could spend a day discussing how much I hate her, but it would be all spoilery for those yet to play 

[Criz]

okey, I hijacked the thread anyway, let's get back to some Kaidan, shall we

inbetween all the discussion about how the romance can be picked up after ME2 or started (wait was there any information that the VS would be available for the opposite gender if they hadn't starteda romance in ME1? ... they only talked about how it all pays off if you were faithful ...)

anyway, what if they'd allow something like friend-mance and rivalmance?

[Amratis]

Criz-Zone wrote...

anyway, what if they'd allow something like friend-mance and rivalmance?

Hmm, the only char I both friend-manced and rivalmanced in DA2 was Fenris, so I only have that to compare it to.

If you could rival-mance Kaidan by going renegade then he would probably just object to every harsh or ruthless action you took and complain about it all the time, then his lyrium markings would glow and he'd shove you up against the wall and - Oh I'm sorry wrong game *thinks about Kaidan shoving her Femshep against the wall - THUD*

Also Chignon that Flux pic is utterly adorable! 

[Geirahod]

Amratis wrote...

Criz-Zone wrote...

anyway, what if they'd allow something like friend-mance and rivalmance?

Hmm, the only char I both friend-manced and rivalmanced in DA2 was Fenris, so I only have that to compare it to.

If you could rival-mance Kaidan by going renegade then he would probably just object to every harsh or ruthless action you took and complain about it all the time, then his lyrium markings would glow and he'd shove you up against the wall and - Oh I'm sorry wrong game *thinks about Kaidan shoving her Femshep against the wall - THUD*

Also Chignon that Flux pic is utterly adorable! 

You know, for some weird reason, I can see that happening the *shoving femshep against the wall* part.

[Amratis]

Geirahod wrote...


You know, for some weird reason, I can see that happening the *shoving femshep against the wall* part.

Bloomin hell, here's hoping! 

[FireEye]

tangalin wrote...

FireEye wrote...

Ash also seems to have gotten a commission and jumped another rank between ME2 and ME3, so Kaidan may very well have made Captain... or Major. Alliance ranks can be confounding.

Not really confounding, they just use naval ranks (where captains are higher in rank as they are ship commanders) instead of air force or army ranks (in which captain is a lower rank with no particular significance).

The Alliance uses Captain/Major for Navy/Marines, according to the Codex, with the marines not having a Captain rank.  Captain is one rank above Staff Commander.  However, Captain Anderson (a marine, as far as I know) is quite obviously a captain.

That's why it's confounding. 

[noxpanda]

Criz-Zone wrote...

okey, I hijacked the thread anyway, let's get back to some Kaidan, shall we

inbetween all the discussion about how the romance can be picked up after ME2 or started (wait was there any information that the VS would be available for the opposite gender if they hadn't starteda romance in ME1? ... they only talked about how it all pays off if you were faithful ...)

anyway, what if they'd allow something like friend-mance and rivalmance?

Sadly they've already said (i think they did anyway) that there won't be a friend-mance rival-mance thing, people got excited by pics of liara and garrus having alignment bars, but they came back and said it wasnt a feature, just that they haven't sorted the menus yet. Personally i'd rather like the option, gives me mooore reasons to playthrough yet again!

As far as i'm aware there hasn't been any info about the VS being available for an s/s relationship. They've just said there will be s/s relationships, but no hints yet as to who it might be. I might be wrong about that though i've not been avidly browsing news so much in the last fortnight, i've mostly been lurking here.

[FireEye]

noxpanda wrote...

As far as i'm aware there hasn't been any info about the VS being available for an s/s relationship. They've just said there will be s/s relationships, but no hints yet as to who it might be. I might be wrong about that though i've not been avidly browsing news so much in the last fortnight, i've mostly been lurking here.

Sbarge semi-confirmed it at a con.  (That is to say, he confirmed it, but he is not the Word of BioWare - he may have misunderstood what he was told, or BioWare may change their minds).

[shepskisaac]

noxpanda wrote...
As far as i'm aware there hasn't been any info about the VS being available for an s/s relationship. They've just said there will be s/s relationships, but no hints yet as to who it might be. I might be wrong about that though i've not been avidly browsing news so much in the last fortnight, i've mostly been lurking here.

Update for you Raphael Sbarge said BW wrote a gay romance for Kaidan and he's very happy about it. Of course, there is a small chance it may not make it into the final game, but considering it would be the second time happening and that s/s romances were confirmed in general less than 2 months ago, it's pretty safe to assume Kaidan will be available for ManSheps. Ash too, since they kinda seem to treat these two as the same character in alot of cases.

[DWH1982]

I don't mind s/s romance, but I do hope they don't entirely treat Ash and Kaidan as the same character.

They were my favorite characters in ME1, and they're supposed to be different people.

[FireEye]

DWH1982 wrote...

I don't mind s/s romance, but I do hope they don't entirely treat Ash and Kaidan as the same character.

They were my favorite characters in ME1, and they're supposed to be different people.

No kidding, particularly since they were foils.



"Hi, there."

[Chignon]

Could your screenshots get any cuter, I wonder?

[shepskisaac]

DWH1982 wrote...

I don't mind s/s romance, but I do hope they don't entirely treat Ash and Kaidan as the same character.

They were my favorite characters in ME1, and they're supposed to be different people.

Kind of agree with this. I mean, it's not like there's even a big need for a female s/s romance with a main character of the franchise as the is for male s/s romance with a main character of the franchise, since there's Liara already as a f/f LI, from the very beginning, who will also end up with the biggest romance arc of all the characters actually (ME1 + LOTSB + ME3). Different sexual orientations would at least help somehow make Ash & Kaidan different, rather than having them be just the same "VS character".

[KawaiiKatie]

DWH1982 wrote...

I don't mind s/s romance, but I do hope they don't entirely treat Ash and Kaidan as the same character.

They were my favorite characters in ME1, and they're supposed to be different people.

Am I the only one afraid that Ash and Kaidan are going to get the "Carver/Bethany" treatment in ME3?

I mean, I trust Bioware to write an damazing story, and to write both characters well... But their games constaly remind me that they're a company, and to maximize profits, they have to cut corners and reserve reasources. The fact that Kaidan and Ash had identical dialogue on Hoirzon doesn't give me much hope...

But they should be distinct people. And, ideally, they will be. But, then again, Carver and Bethany should have been different people, too....

[rpgfan321]

^ KawaiiKatie, you aren't the only one...

I was really disappointed with the short time Carver/Bethany had in DA2. (I wanted to share more time with my sister... *sniffles*)

But BioWare is a company and companies need money... I really hope they form into different characters - I mean then the replay value would increase a bit right? - but as it is... I'm a bit skeptical about that topic...

[nranola]

Chignon wrote...

I should be studying for my finals but,

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Beautiful! <3

KawaiiKatie wrote...

Am I the only one afraid that Ash and Kaidan are going to get the "Carver/Bethany" treatment in ME3?

I mean, I trust Bioware to write an damazing story, and to write both characters well... But their games constaly remind me that they're a company, and to maximize profits, they have to cut corners and reserve reasources. The fact that Kaidan and Ash had identical dialogue on Hoirzon doesn't give me much hope...

But they should be distinct people. And, ideally, they will be. But, then again, Carver and Bethany should have been different people, too....

You're not. I'd be very VERY disappointed if they lump Ash and Kaidan together again. They are two separate characters with very different personalities and should be treated as such. While it's understandable for them to have a similar reaction on Horizon, well... I still can't get over how they both commented about "dead civilians" in the first game.

That said, I really hope that their reaction to things, consequences, and overall character arcs are vastly different from one another. I want to see Ashley and Kaidan as "Ashley" and "Kaidan", not "VS Spectre". ME3 is the final game. Please please PLEASE, BioWare, don't cheap out on us!

[Cypher0020]

I agree! Kai/Ash on Horizon were nearly word for word....and yeah.... I wanna see more of how they're different

[Tric]

Were Bethany and Carver really that easily interchanged?
I've only yet finished playthroughs with a rogue and warrior so I'm really not sure but from what I've seen they react differently in several situations and although they have the same quests and conversation triggers they've always (again, as far as I've been able to verify) responded differently from one another.
Now, a repeat of Horizon is something I'm scared of.

Also, ahm. Hi, pleasure to meet you guys.
Short time poster but long time lurker and closeted Kaidan fan.  (Really wishing this forum had an embarrassed smiley right now )

[Kia Purity]

...I was not aware that they had same dialogue o_o

From what I was told by a friend (considering I can't hear) that Kaidan sounded very angry and Ashley was all "Meh, okay" sounding where Horizon was concerned.

ETA: Hi, SomethingSome! 

Modifié par Kia Purity, 06 juillet 2011 - 04:20 .

[DWH1982]

Kia Purity wrote...

...I was not aware that they had same dialogue o_o

From what I was told by a friend (considering I can't hear) that Kaidan sounded very angry and Ashley was all "Meh, okay" sounding where Horizon was concerned.

ETA: Hi, SomethingSome! 

I've played through Horizon many times with Ash alive.

She's very angry. Very, very angry.

[Cypher0020]

That was my first run Ash/Femshep in ME2....and it.... sucked majorly.....Kaidan's was even worse.... yeesh....

both rip Shep to pieces LI or not.....and while I can undestand the anger......it still hurt... and TIM is in your face right after Horizon...ugh

[nranola]

@Kia- They're not the same dialogue word for word, but it's pretty darn close. You can watch videos of it on YouTube if you want.

I think Kaidan sounded angrier. Ash was angry, yeah, but more at the verge of tears than RAAAGE. At least, that's how it came off to me.

@SomethingSome- Hey there! Always a pleasure meeting another Kaidan fan. ;D

[Pax of Doom]

Cypher0020 wrote...

That was my first run Ash/Femshep in ME2....and it.... sucked majorly.....Kaidan's was even worse.... yeesh....

both rip Shep to pieces LI or not.....and while I can undestand the anger......it still hurt... and TIM is in your face right after Horizon...ugh

Chalk it up to Horizon being a terribly written bit o'crap.  If anything redeeming can be said for it,  it highlights how sleazy TIM is.

...oh crap, I'm posting?!?!  Back to lurker rock, double-time!  

(hello from a lurker and a "so deep in the closet we're finding Christmas presents" Kaidan fan) 

[Kia Purity]

...sometimes if I wonder if I'm better off at not being able to hear-- I really don't think I'd have been okay after Horizon. @_x

ETA-- and that I wish Cerberus had given my Shepard the ability to fire lasers from her eyes at people... specifically TIM.

Modifié par Kia Purity, 06 juillet 2011 - 04:45 .