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Damn, i'm never going to get to lvl 60, i created Clara especially for that task but at some point the frustration damages my mental health and i end up dropping me 1 and easing the tension with me 2 x) i'm trying to take down every creature on foot, i already did Bring Down The Sky and i still have Virmire and Ilos left, but all those side missions are taking forever ;_; and i can't use Pinnacle Station, as it's incompatibile with polish version of the game >_> Sigh. My ambicious plan to finish everything before me 3 release is in danger again.

I know im in the minority, but i actually find playing me 2 much much easier, quicker and less painful... and even though the me 1 plot is oh-so-awesome, all the glitches just made me cry too many times :P And honestly, i don't know how exactly but somehow i managed to save everything and everyone in my very first playthrough ^^ including the fish :D the only thing i knew about back then was that it was possible for shepard to die, so i remember the whole damn day spent on scanning for minerals and shopping for everything there was to make sure my shep WAS NOT going to do that to me :P and, i don't know, i just listened to people, they share their concerns about the normandy and their own attitude; joker tells you when the ship has all neccessary uprades and is ready; from the shadow brokers' files you can read that garrus has a leaders potential; miranda proved she can be in charge managing sheps ressurection team... and so on. Actually, i find killing them all much more challenging than saving xD i had to put A LOT of effort to get miranda killed during my renegade playthrough - i put her in charge when she was unloyal - jack died. i put her in a team lead by unloyal grunt - grunt died. i let her do the biotic field - thane died ;_; i swear she's immortal :P

edit: wow, didn't realize i wrote a ranting essay, sorry for that

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She is immortal. Only way she can die is if she's unloyal and you take her to fight the Reapernator.

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Isn't Miranda fairly easy to kill? I thought, loyal or not, she died if you chose her as the biotic to ward off the swarms.

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Truby-Liz wrote...

 I managed to keep all my squad alive during the Suicide Mission, although I did spend forever agonising over who I should send to do what duty. I may have also cheated slightly in discovering that getting all of the upgrades is a very good idea...

@Age topic - Hearing all of you guys say you're in your 40s and such makes me feel young and immature :pinched: I just turned 21 a few days ago...

I turned 21 in October, although my research supevisor still refers to me and my best friend of same age as "kids". I so feel like Liara :lol:

Suicide mission? Yesterday it happened for my 29th run; have Arrival and Overlord to go. Everyone is alive but Tali is illoyal. And it's still fun seeing Miranda carrying assault rifle, at least Kaidan isn't the only Sentinel suddenly doing so. I wonder if ME3 Kaidan will have the same problem as ME2 Miranda - she's good at leading squad so it's rational to pick her (am I the only one who found tweet from Mr. Walters that Kaidan is a good leader suspicious?), but I want her constantly in my squad.

Edit: Miranda is almost impossible to kill because she's the only person who has lines at SM (like "EDI, what's our next step?") and needed to read them. So she can't die before Hold the Line, and loyal Miranda can't die at all. Illoyal might die at HtL, possibly killing some other illoyals, or at Reaper.

Modifié par mineralica, 29 janvier 2012 - 09:44 .


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Nope ^^

Random Jerkface wrote...

She is immortal. Only way she can die is if she's unloyal and you take her to fight the Reapernator.


+ you can always fail massively and send her to vents, right? :P

i need to try that one day, ME 3 should be pretty funny for that person :D

edit: ok, it's been decided then, she's immortal :P
but seriously, i can't really understand why would they go through so much trouble with protecting her all that time yet letting people to kill her in the very end, as it seems she's got rather important role to play in the future :blink:

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Anassiel wrote...

Nope ^^

Random Jerkface wrote...

She is immortal. Only way she can die is if she's unloyal and you take her to fight the Reapernator.


+ you can always fail massively and send her to vents, right? :P

i need to try that one day, ME 3 should be pretty funny for that person :D

Miri won't go to vents despite being familiar with tech (no option to pick her), and she won't go escorting crew;)

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LadyofRivendell wrote...

Isn't Miranda fairly easy to kill? I thought, loyal or not, she died if you chose her as the biotic to ward off the swarms.

Nope. The biotic never dies. It's always the squaddie that stays back to provide suppressing fire.

(am I the only one who found tweet from Mr. Walters that Kaidan is a good leader suspicious?)

I think he would be. He doesn't have Shepard's charisma, but in ME1, Chakwas does say that he has over a dozen special commendations, and according to ME3, he's never lost a soldier under his command to enemy fire.

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Random Jerkface wrote...

LadyofRivendell wrote...

Isn't Miranda fairly easy to kill? I thought, loyal or not, she died if you chose her as the biotic to ward off the swarms.

Nope. The biotic never dies. It's always the squaddie that stays back to provide suppressing fire.

(am I the only one who found tweet from Mr. Walters that Kaidan is a good leader suspicious?)

I think he would be. He doesn't have Shepard's charisma, but in ME1, Chakwas does say that he has over a dozen special commendations, and according to ME3, he's never lost a soldier under his command to enemy fire.


Really? Huh, never knew that. By suppressing fire, is that something you only see if you did something wrong? Because Shepard is always the last one shooting in my SMs.

And Kaidan's never lost anyone under his command? Do the Collectors not count?

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Yes, the suppressing fire is something you only see with the wrong biotic. With Samara or Jack, the barrier is gathered up and used to blast everything in the room to hell. Shepard guns down the stragglers (so as not to look lame, I suppose). Everyone else will be unable to finish the barrier, and collapse near the doorway. Whilst Shep, one squaddie, and the biotic head toward the door, the other squadmate stands his/her ground and ends up being carried off by the seekers.

As for the Collectors (and I'm guessing you mean Horizon), the colonists weren't actually under his command. Also, they kind of hated him.

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LadyofRivendell wrote...

Random Jerkface wrote...

LadyofRivendell wrote...

Isn't Miranda fairly easy to kill? I thought, loyal or not, she died if you chose her as the biotic to ward off the swarms.

Nope. The biotic never dies. It's always the squaddie that stays back to provide suppressing fire.

(am I the only one who found tweet from Mr. Walters that Kaidan is a good leader suspicious?)

I think he would be. He doesn't have Shepard's charisma, but in ME1, Chakwas does say that he has over a dozen special commendations, and according to ME3, he's never lost a soldier under his command to enemy fire.


Really? Huh, never knew that. By suppressing fire, is that something you only see if you did something wrong? Because Shepard is always the last one shooting in my SMs.

And Kaidan's never lost anyone under his command? Do the Collectors not count?


The suppressing fire only happens if you choose anyone other than Samara/Morinth or Jack to do the biotic shield at the end. If you have Miranda or Jacob or Thane, the shield will break down at the end and a squaddie will be lost to the seeker swarms (I believe).

I don't know if the Collectors is what he's talking about necessarily. I thought of it as more of military operations, like in battle or something. Could be wrong though.

EDIT: :ph34r:'d on both accounts. :P

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I don't know if the Collectors is what he's talking about necessarily. I thought of it as more of military operations, like in battle or something. Could be wrong though.

Yeah, I meant military ops.

Also, I'm female. Ololo

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Random Jerkface wrote...

I don't know if the Collectors is what he's talking about necessarily. I thought of it as more of military operations, like in battle or something. Could be wrong though.

Yeah, I meant military ops.

Also, I'm female. Ololo


Lol I think I was referring in general to who said Kaidan hasn't lost anyone in ME3 (like a dev or wherever the information was from). But I don't exactly remember, so sorry if I had originally directed that at you :P

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Random Jerkface wrote...

LadyofRivendell wrote...

Isn't Miranda fairly easy to kill? I thought, loyal or not, she died if you chose her as the biotic to ward off the swarms.

Nope. The biotic never dies. It's always the squaddie that stays back to provide suppressing fire.

I killed off Samara when she used her biotics to ward off the swarms when she wasn't loyal, so it is possible unless I just had a glitch, lol.  Although I think Miranda was the hardest one to kill of all the squadmates, but I never tried to get her killed so I'm not positive.

You really had to work hard to kill off squaddies in the SM, although I did manage to kill off 3 of them in one playthrough on purpose.

re age : I'm 49 this year but very immature, lol.

re ME1 leveling - you can get to level 54 or 55 in one playthrough but thats doing both dlc's.  I never kill maws on foor either. Once you do a ng+ playthrough you can get to level 60 and it's ridiculously easy given that you have all your good equipment, lol.

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I killed off Samara when she used her biotics to ward off the swarms when she wasn't loyal, so it is possible unless I just had a glitch, lol.  Although I think Miranda was the hardest one to kill of all the squadmates, but I never tried to get her killed so I'm not positive.

Ah, there's that too. Can't say, since I've only gone into the SM with one unloyal character (Zaeed), and I've never actually had anyone die on me.

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Miranda cannot die by seeker swarms or by being squad leader. She literally does not even have voiced death parts in those scenes. I let an unloyal Miranda lead the second squad and she didn't die. She can only die by being taken with Shepard to the reaper, going through the vents, or being unloyal while holding the line (if you don't have a strong group guarding the door).

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Even having her die whilst holding the line is extremely difficult, especially if you've got characters with "high" defence ratios (IE, Zaeed, Grunt). In fact, it's more likely to have Mordin randomly die there (loyal or not). Miranda usually only dies there if some of your team have already died.

Least, that's what I've heard. Haven't checked yet, myself.

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Yeah, that's why I always send Mordin back with the survivors. Even though I have more than enough defense on the hold the line part, I'm always afraid he'll just randomly die for some reason.

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This was my combo for the suicide mission and nobody died (All loyal and ship fully upgraded of course): Legion in the vents, Jacob leading firesquad 1, Samara for the biotic shield, Miranda leading firesquad 2, Mordin escorting the survivors, Garrus and Tali for my final team. Everyone else (Grunt, Jack, Thane and Zaeed) holding the line.

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LaurenShepard-N7 wrote...

This was my combo for the suicide mission and nobody died (All loyal and ship fully upgraded of course): Legion in the vents, Jacob leading firesquad 1, Samara for the biotic shield, Miranda leading firesquad 2, Mordin escorting the survivors, Garrus and Tali for my final team. Everyone else (Grunt, Jack, Thane and Zaeed) holding the line.



I don't think I will ever see the no man left behind achievement because of the effing confrontation between Miranda and Jack. 1st play through, I was like, "huh?” 2nd play through, I had 100% paragon and they both flipped me off still -,-' 3rd play through, I was like "Eff it" and they both died >.< I doubt I will be playing it over again especially since I’m already wired for ME3, but how on EARTH do you get those two to shut up and hold hands.

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XStoneColdFoxX wrote...

LaurenShepard-N7 wrote...

This was my combo for the suicide mission and nobody died (All loyal and ship fully upgraded of course): Legion in the vents, Jacob leading firesquad 1, Samara for the biotic shield, Miranda leading firesquad 2, Mordin escorting the survivors, Garrus and Tali for my final team. Everyone else (Grunt, Jack, Thane and Zaeed) holding the line.



I don't think I will ever see the no man left behind achievement because of the effing confrontation between Miranda and Jack. 1st play through, I was like, "huh?” 2nd play through, I had 100% paragon and they both flipped me off still -,-' 3rd play through, I was like "Eff it" and they both died >.< I doubt I will be playing it over again especially since I’m already wired for ME3, but how on EARTH do you get those two to shut up and hold hands.

Paragon / Renegade meter isn't important, "Para/Ren points you've got" to "Para/Ren points you could get to this moment from all triggered conversations / events" ratio do. General advice is to import ME1 char and get free points, make their LM asap (so you had lesser chance to miss points somewhere via not following alignment) and to respec your points and max passive class ability before mission.

Ultimate way is to leave one of them offended and then don't use her anywhere on SM, plus leave her to hold the line with Zaeed, Grunt and Garrus.

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If you imported from ME1, you should have no problem. If you didn't, then it's quite a bit more difficult. The later in the game it is, the easier it is to keep both their loyalties, but if you complete both LMs relatively early (and didn't import), you'll have trouble if you're a paragade or neutral player. If forced to side with one, you can still win her loyalty by going to speak with her after you've accrued enough persuasion points.

...Personally hate that option, though. Not a fan of Shepard's simpering lip-service.

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-,-' heh. Never tried doing their LM early......Uhhg I'm so tempted to play it over again but it's going to take me forever lol. Thank you mineralica and Random Jerkface (love the name lol) for the info though. I really appreciate it. Maybe after I'm done fiddling around with ME3, I'll try again for the hell of it.

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This is what I do with the Jack/Miranda fight. I only do either Jack or Miranda's LM. Then I wait till my paragon or renegade score is pretty high to finish the other person's LM. After you finish the 2nd LM (either Jack or Miranda) the fight will trigger and you can use paragon or renegade interrupt. The same thing goes for Tali/Legion. Do one and leave the other except I'm so high at that point that I don't have to worry about the second fight.

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You all have been a great read. I've been hanging back, not participating, thinking I should stay the spectator but this thread encouraged me to at least say hi. *waves* (The whole video game discussion board thing is new to me).

I discovered the ME universe through a friend this past October. The games were collecting dust since February I believe. From the moment I started playing, I was hooked completely. More than anything though, I came to love the relationship between Shep and Kaidan. I hate to admit it but I've become addicted to ME both 1&2. lol Can't wait for ME3. Can't wait to see what happens with Kaidan.

Also, I noticed many of you talking about adding each other to play on the multiplayer. Can I join in on that? If so, how? I have no idea lol

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Truby-Liz wrote...

@MP - Am I seriously the only person who's ever played MP before? I used to play Unreal Tournamet aaaalllllll the time and though I had a habit of dying, it's because I started playing that when I was 10ish... And I'm totally going to be Engie, specialising in Medic if I can, so you guys better keep me covered so I can heal you:P


good choice! always better to send in other people before yourself. i like controlling the battlefield - engineer is a natural choice for me. and having teammates grateful for healing can be useful... Image IPB


this is how i play DnD too. i would never make vanguard Image IPB