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[LadyofRivendell]

Yikes, I've missed 20 pages! Anything substantial happen? Also, any more audioblogs posted? (Last I visited, only 1 and 2 were available).

[JillHawke]

I also made a Kaidan wallpaper:)  gonna post the small version here,the full bigger size will be on my DeviantART.

[Oddlyotter]

Yeah, LADY of rivendell, Parts 3 and the final part four were posted. Otherwise not much on the news front.

[LadyofRivendell]

Oddlyotter wrote...

Yeah, LADY of rivendell, Parts 3 and the final part four were posted. Otherwise not much on the news front.

Not sure what's up with the emphasis on my username (?) But thank you for the links!

[Oddlyotter]

Well I was going to just say Lady, but then thought I should expand then thought maybe you were an important lady so LADY it was

[Soccerchic6]

@ yoshibb: What's wrong?

Does this make you feel better?



By PhantomFan

Modifié par Soccerchic6, 07 février 2012 - 04:55 .

[Oddlyotter]

Probably referring to that "why do they bother writing lines for femshep?" thread I'm guessing. Trolls just being trolls is all! I'd ignore them!

[Silver77nz]

Debating on BSN is like arguing with a kid who keeps saying "why"! Another good metaphor is talking to a brick wall. Is there suppose to be a trailer out tomorrow or something? I'm currently trying to blast my way through an ME2 playthru. I forgot about all the little side missions you can do. Gonna leave those alone for now. Anyhoo I guess I will go back to grinding my way thru ME2.

*Waves to all the new people*
I can't keep up anymore

[LadyofRivendell]

You know, I find BSN one of the milder forums on the net. I've been to some awful places online.

What's this about a trailer tomorrow?

Oddlyotter wrote...

Well I was going to just say Lady, but then thought I should expand then thought maybe you were an important lady so LADY it was

Alas, no, I'm no one important, the username is just a play on one of my favorite characters from a book.

[Soccerchic6]

Ah, I see. I browse the other threads but mainly stick to this one. You guys are all awesome!

@ side missions: I finally finished all the ME2 side missions last night - got everything at 100% explored (or however you say it). I wasn't in much of a mood to play today, but tomorrow I'm picking up Legion and maybe even finish the game. Arrival is the only thing I would have left, but I'm saving that for right before ME3 comes out.

@ trailer: Is it customary to release stuff on Tuesdays? I'm really excited to see Kaidan in the new trailer!

[LadyofRivendell]

Soccerchic6 wrote...

@ trailer: Is it customary to release stuff on Tuesdays? I'm really excited to see Kaidan in the new trailer!

From what I know, both the Playstation Network Store and the Xbox Live Marketplace update on Tuesdays. Also, 99% of games are released on Tuesdays (with a few exceptions: Skyrim came out on a Friday and Pokemon Black/White was released on a Sunday). I don't know that trailers necessarily come out on certain days, but it's not a bad idea (due to the console store updates).

[yoshibb]

Soccerchic6 wrote...

@ yoshibb: What's wrong?

Does this make you feel better?

'snip'

Yes

And yeah, it was that femshep thread. I don't know why I bother. I keep thinking I can convince people with logical arguments but they don't actually listen. Some guys act like I'm stealing their game content. Like games are a exclusive boys club. They show that 20% stat and ignore the lack of marketing towards females.

I get upset though, cause Bioware is one of the only companies that I feel portrays women in a respectful, well rounded way in their games. The fact that they might be convinced to cut female content because of these "statistics", however unlikely it is, scares me. I have really reduced my game time anymore because I really feel like I'm not wanted in the gaming community cause I'm female. And I've played games since I was 5 years old with an Intellivision.

LadyofRivendell wrote...

You know, I find BSN one of the milder forums on the net. I've been to some awful places online.

What's this about a trailer tomorrow?

This is true, I have to hide my gender on most sports messageboards or my opinion will not be taken seriously and they will simply respond by calling me the c-word. My two favorite things are sports and games, though. What can you do?

And Tuesdays are video game days in North America. It's when juicy info usually comes out.

[Oddlyotter]

Ehhh besides making the femshep or femhawke or femwarden, they don't do that great of job at females. o.o Isabella? Really ugh.

What irritates me is we're one of the most vocal fans, the kaidanites, and people are always writing us off. (also the most creative if I may add ) "Oh I killed him" Well good for you but obviously there are people who care about that particular character.

[Jilinna]

Silverpearl1977 wrote...

Debating on BSN is like arguing with a kid who keeps saying "why"! Another good metaphor is talking to a brick wall. Is there suppose to be a trailer out tomorrow or something? I'm currently trying to blast my way through an ME2 playthru. I forgot about all the little side missions you can do. Gonna leave those alone for now. Anyhoo I guess I will go back to grinding my way thru ME2.

*Waves to all the new people*
I can't keep up anymore

LOL that is a great way of putting it silver! Thats the reason why I try to stay out of arguments as much as possible on BSN it never ends well for the most part.

I hope its the trailer since that is the day we get to see Kaidan! Since we all rock and convinced Silverman! However I am unsure. All I know is Bioware kept repeating to stay tuned on Feb 7th, so something special is suppose to happen tomorrow but no one knows what it is yet.

& If I missed anymore new people *passes around Kaidan cookies* Make yourself at home! 

[LadyofRivendell]

Oddlyotter wrote...

Ehhh besides making the femshep or femhawke or femwarden, they don't do that great of job at females. o.o Isabella? Really ugh.

They've got to sell the game, and it's undeniable that males make up most of the gaming demographic. So using females like Isabela, Miranda, Morrigan, etc, is a great way to sell your game. They kept the characters (mostly) respectable in personality, though. I mean, compare Morrigan to, say, Bayonetta. They may both dress skimpily, but Morrigan actually has a deeper personality once you delve into the character compared to many, many other video game females.

In my opinion, female characters are the hardest to get right in any form of media, be it games, movies, TV shows, and books to a lesser extent. You need to make them likable, to both genders, meaning they need to have a good personality but also be attractive to men (should they swing that way). Lean too much one way or the other and you've lost half of your audience. But there's also a fine, fine line within that balance to not have an over the top female character. So she needs to have a strong, willful personality, yet be attractive in both looks and personality to men (which usually includes some sort of submission to the opposite gender), while being able to hold her own but not invulnerably so.
If any of that makes sense My brain hasn't been working right today. All I'm trying to say is that, basically, female characters are very hard to do well, and Bioware has managed to do it.

[yoshibb]

Oddlyotter wrote...

Ehhh besides making the femshep or femhawke or femwarden, they don't do that great of job at females. o.o Isabella? Really ugh.

What irritates me is we're one of the most vocal fans, the kaidanites, and people are always writing us off. (also the most creative if I may add ) "Oh I killed him" Well good for you but obviously there are people who care about that particular character.

There really isn't much competition so Bioware's female PCs are leaps and bounds over the alternative. Plus there are still strong females in Bioware's games. Ashley, Bastilla, and Aveline for example. There are still the sexualization problem, but these women break through that with well rounded personalities for the most part.

And as a Kaidan fan we are really in the minority. But still, I am a paying customer and my money is worth as much as anyone else. But we were vocal enough that our favorite character was put back into the series for the final game. I don't think that would've happened if Kaidan and Ashley fans hadn't petitioned so hard for it.

[Bekkael]

That femshep thread made me want to spit nails. I posted quickly and got the heck out. Sexist stuff just makes my blood boil.

Still hoping for femshep/Kaidan trailer tomorrow. I know, I know, I'm delusional.

I'm actually getting Kingdoms of Amalur tomorrow, after all. Anyone else planning to?

[Jilinna]

yoshibb wrote...

Yes

And yeah, it was that femshep thread. I don't know why I bother. I keep thinking I can convince people with logical arguments but they don't actually listen. Some guys act like I'm stealing their game content. Like games are a exclusive boys club. They show that 20% stat and ignore the lack of marketing towards females.

I get upset though, cause Bioware is one of the only companies that I feel portrays women ina respectful, well rounded way in their games. The fact that they mightbe convinced to cut female content because of these "statistics", however unlikely it is, scares me. I have really reduced my game time anymore because I really feel like I'm not wanted in the gaming community cause I'm female. And I've played games since I was 5 years old with an Intellivision.

Oh is it the is Femshep worth it thread you are talking about? That thread got me really angry yesterday. Reading half those responses made me soo close to posting but I refrained. I was shocked and kinda upset to find it still open this morning, its not ME3 related and it is an already confirmed feature there is nothing to discuss.

I understand you frustration, it is the reason why I mostly only post in character threads because the general discussion is a breeding ground for trolls and people who make snide remarks to other posters to be little them and their argument.

& Don`t worry about the statistics. After all even after they saw the numbers they still decided to promote Femshep in ME3, If they didn`t think Femshep was worth it then they wouldn`t of made her in the first place. Clearly Femshep had some value in order for the ME team to include Femshep. So it would be odd for them to backpedal now.

I know I probably wouldn`t of even played this game if it wasn`t for FemShep. It was Femshep that initially drew me in after watching some youtube clips of her romance with Kaidan

Modifié par Jilinna, 07 février 2012 - 06:00 .

[Oddlyotter]

To be honest Bioware should give me money for how much I sell the bioware games at work.

Customer: Well I like shooters but i've played all of the big ones. Do you know of any others?
Me: WELLLL do you like engaging story as well as 3rd person shooting gameplay with a fully customizable character and fully voiced cast including some famous people along the lines of Seth Green and Martin Sheen?
Customer: Oh wow, that sounds cool what's that?
Me: WELLL it just so happens to be this game here *shows mass effect*

Yah, pay me bioware. I even got a girl gamer that way because she wanted an engaging story "Yes and it has a fully voiced and customizable female protagonist." "Oh rly?"

But yes I agree with you Lady, it is difficult to balance female characters.

Also also, I feel the most at home in this thread. I visit other threads but they are either A) too fast or full of pricks

[LadyofRivendell]

I know what you mean, Otter, this thread is the "internet home" to me. I feel free to be my silly self without needing to be watchful for trolls and the likes And, of course, the Kaidan pics never hurt.
Edit: Is that your blog in your sig? Because the first post is titled "Why I Hate Kaidan", and that's not a very nice blog post if you ask me.


@Bekkael, I'm not planning on getting KoA but I don't know much about it. Is it more akin to the Elder Scrolls or Dragon Age? I might buy it if it has good characters and a good plot, but otherwise I probably won't.

Modifié par LadyofRivendell, 07 février 2012 - 06:17 .

[yoshibb]

Oddlyotter wrote...

To be honest Bioware should give me money for how much I sell the bioware games at work.

Customer: Well I like shooters but i've played all of the big ones. Do you know of any others?
Me: WELLLL do you like engaging story as well as 3rd person shooting gameplay with a fully customizable character and fully voiced cast including some famous people along the lines of Seth Green and Martin Sheen?
Customer: Oh wow, that sounds cool what's that?
Me: WELLL it just so happens to be this game here *shows mass effect*

Yah, pay me bioware. I even got a girl gamer that way because she wanted an engaging story "Yes and it has a fully voiced and customizable female protagonist." "Oh rly?"

But yes I agree with you Lady, it is difficult to balance female characters.

Also also, I feel the most at home in this thread. I visit other threads but they are either A) too fast or full of pricks

I've gotten two people hooked on the Mass Effect series and I'm currently working on two more. People honestly do not know what goes on in Mass Effect. Like I've said, most people I know think it's a Halo clone.

[Kia Purity]

Already got my brother hooked on ME series

Though, he plays broShep... (but it was at least hilarious seeing him react to Jennifer Hale's voice and be all "I suddenly want to play MGS4 now.")

...I also got him into the MGS series. (Hey, gotta throw quality games at him so he wouldn't get stuck playing sport games forever. @_@)

As for something being released on Tuesday-- seems to be almost a given as of late, I'll be eating lunch at work and checking my phone and there'll be always something new on a Tuesday. Auuugh. @_@

[rapscallioness]

Jilinna wrote...

Oh is it the is Femshep worth it thread you are talking about? That thread got me really angry yesterday. Reading half those responses made me soo close to posting but I refrained. I was shocked and kinda upset to find it still open this morning, its not ME3 related and it is an already confirmed feature there is nothing to discuss.

I understand you frustration, it is the reason why I mostly only post in character threads because the general discussion is a breeding ground for trolls and people who make snide remarks to other posters to be little them and their argument.

& Don`t worry about the statistics. After all even after they saw the numbers they still decided to promote Femshep in ME3, If they didn`t think Femshep was worth it then they wouldn`t of made her in the first place. Clearly Femshep had some value in order for the ME team to include Femshep. So it would be odd for them to backpedal now.

I know I probably wouldn`t of even played this game if it wasn`t for FemShep. It was Femshep that initially drew me in after watching some youtube clips of her romance with Kaidan

Fuuny thing tho, for sum odd reason one of the mods..Stanley Woo, perhaps? Idk. Saw fit to stamp it w/ the BW thing. He was the one modding it,. But wasn't he also the one in here yelling lockdown over our mild discussion?

But that piece of sh*t thread gets a..stamp-thingy. And is still open. And it's by that same poster that always seems to have sum ridiculous thread started. Troll, but we get threatened w/lockdown.

[Collider]

The thread really shouldn't get a Bioware stamp thing if it's just a post by a moderator telling people to chill out.

[LadyofRivendell]

Stanly never threatened us with an inevitable lockdown, he just deleted a few off topic posts a few days ago and said to keep it Kaidan related. I find we mostly stay on a Mass Effect related topic, or other topics rooting back to Kaidan, but if the mods were to shut down every off topic or offensive topic, we'd have no forum.

Sorry for repetitive nouns and odd sentence structures in my posts today, after last week's three exams, two tests, a ten photo photoshoot, and 200 pages of a lit book to read, my brain is too fried to make very coherent forum posts.