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[jlb524]

^^ Haha, that's gonna be my ME3 team for the most part.

[Maugrim]

Is Ash checking Liara out?

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[jlb524]

makenzieshepard wrote...

Is Ash checking Liara out?

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My Shepard iz jealous XD

nice emoticon, btw

[ashlover mark 2]

if she dose turn out to be bi would ash even be attracted or open to a relationship with an alien femmale in ME3? being bi is one thing dateing another speacis is something else. wonder if bioware would take it to that level.

Modifié par ashlover mark 2, 17 juillet 2011 - 06:26 .

[ADLegend21]

ashlover mark 2 wrote...

if she dose turn out to be bi would ash even be attracted or open to a relationship with an alien femmale in ME3? being bi is one thing dateing another speacis is something else. wonder if bioware would take it to that level.

[jlb524]

ashlover mark 2 wrote...

if she dose turn out to be bi would ash even be attracted or open to a relationship with an alien femmale in ME3? being bi is one thing dateing another speacis is something else. wonder if bioware would take it to that level.

Not necessarily.  I know of a few gay FemSheps out there that just don't like the asari or other alien women.  Has nothing to do with racism but just prefering your own species.

TBH, if they do have Ash as a romance option for FemShep she won't show any other interest in females beyond her...similar to how Ash doesn't show an interest for any men besides MaleShep.  Ash seems focused on her goal

Modifié par jlb524, 17 juillet 2011 - 06:35 .

[ashlover mark 2]

as long as they dont take a page out of DA2 isabelas book where they have ash saying openly to other charecters that she likes girls in my male shepard playthrough im all for ash being bi for femsheps.

Modifié par ashlover mark 2, 17 juillet 2011 - 06:42 .

[jlb524]

ashlover mark 2 wrote...

as long as they dont take a page out of DA2 isabelas book where they have ash saying openly to other charecters that she likes girls in my male shepard playthrough im all for ash being bi for femsheps.

Ash is nothing like that though...there's no precedence for it.  If you play as a FemShep, she doesn't show a sexual or romantic interest in anyone.  She could be asexual for all my FemShep knows.  Same as if you play MaleShep and she shows no interest in any other men.

Some people are just more sexual and open with it than others (like Isabela in DA2 or Zevran in DA:O).  Most aren't though and only ever show interest in the PC.

[ashlover mark 2]

jlb524 wrote...

ashlover mark 2 wrote...

as long as they dont take a page out of DA2 isabelas book where they have ash saying openly to other charecters that she likes girls in my male shepard playthrough im all for ash being bi for femsheps.

Ash is nothing like that though...there's no precedence for it.  If you play as a FemShep, she doesn't show a sexual or romantic interest in anyone.  She could be asexual for all my FemShep knows.  Same as if you play MaleShep and she shows no interest in any other men.

Some people are just more sexual and open with it than others (like Isabela in DA2 or Zevran in DA:O).  Most aren't though and only ever show interest in the PC.

i agree,which is why im hopeing whoever is writing her now keeps it all in charecter.

[jlb524]

Yeah, I don't think they will turn Ash into a sex kitten who's trying to woo other squad mates.

I've commented on this before...my one and only Shepard just sees Ash as a friend and will keep it that way. If she's an f/f option, that won't affect their relationship as I won't take the flirt options..simple. Ash will continue being my Shepard's bff with an unknown sexuality in my games. It's no different from Garrus in ME2. My Shepard and Garrus remained as 'bros' in spite of him being a potential LI as I never flirted with him. In my game, Garrus just isn't interested in FemShep or human females. His possible romance didn't change their relationship one bit. I'm not sure why people worry about bisexual Ashley if they go the Garrus route with the romance and have it be fully player initiated.

Modifié par jlb524, 17 juillet 2011 - 06:59 .

[ashlover mark 2]

i suppose because some ppl may be under the notion that in order to avoid an unwanted bisexual advance they cant really be nice and pick paragon options,which tend to start the intial romance for most charecters.

[Fiery Phoenix]

I'm very interested to know who Ashley's current writer is, now that Chris L'Etoile has left. This extends to Chris' other characters such as Thane, EDI, etc. I asked Patrick Weekes on Twitter some weeks ago but he never bothered writing me back.

[ashlover mark 2]

ive been wondering that myself.ideally someone who respects Chris L'Etoile's work and happens to be an ash fan themselves would be nice.

asking for to much?

Modifié par ashlover mark 2, 17 juillet 2011 - 07:11 .

[jlb524]

ashlover mark 2 wrote...

i suppose because some ppl may be under the notion that in order to avoid an unwanted bisexual advance they cant really be nice and pick paragon options,which tend to start the intial romance for most charecters.

Yeah, I understand that.  From my experience in ME2 (as FemShep) I was able to avoid romances with the three available guys by being nice...it wasn't about picking one option over another, but just about avoiding the flirty options.

I think people are coming off of DA2 where you have to be a bit mean to Anders in order to turn him down.  I didn't like that even playing as a female.  I'd hope they'd avoid that in ME3.

I also think another issue was with Jack in ME2 with a MaleShep...if you were nice to her and went the Paragon 'friend' route, the romance would be initiated.  They just need to do a better job of differentiating between 'friend' dialog and romance.  Though, Paragon and Renegade points are never tied to romance dialog.

I must say that I appreciate your sensible attitude towards a possible bisexual Ashley...I actually share your concerns with it's implementation as a FemShep that just wants to stay friends with her.  I don't want to see Ash pissed off at me because I turned the romance down, effectively cutting off further friendship dialog.

Modifié par jlb524, 17 juillet 2011 - 07:14 .

[Airell]

 Think on the dialog wheel there should be a  start s/s relationship choice . That way femshep can sill be friends with Ash without haveing to worry about starting s/s relationship. you click on the choice if you want to start a  s/s relationship or don't click on it and remain just friends.

Modifié par Airell, 17 juillet 2011 - 07:21 .

[Jedi Master of Orion]

Yeah I don't remember having too much trouble avoiding romances in ME 2 except for Jack and that got fixed pretty shortly as well.

Bioware has had issues with this though, Anders thing was a little annoying but he was the only one in DA 2. In ME 1 I didn't think I had much of a problem but when I finally made a male Shepard who didn't romance Ashley for the first time it was actually a little trickier than I thought. She showed up in the Love triangle scene after I was pretty certain she'd not been after me anymore.

Plus other people have complained they romanced Liara by accident. Although I never did.

[jlb524]

Airell wrote...

 Think on the dialog wheel should have start s/s relationship. That way femshep can sill be friends with Ash without haveing to worry about starting s/s relationship.

They should implement it like in DA2...where you had the 'normal' dialog on the right side of the wheel and the flirty option on the left.   It worked for most characters in DA2 with the only issue being with Anders that one time.  If you were nice to him, he flirted...which I don't think is bad in itself...but your options to turn him down were sucky.  However, with Anders, you could still continue on the friend path afterwards.  If they treat Ashley's s/s romance like Merrill's (which was completely player initiated by picking options on the left hand side) then I don't see a problem.  Hell, even Isabela was like that and I had no problems avoiding her romance as a Lady Hawke.

Modifié par jlb524, 17 juillet 2011 - 07:24 .

[ashlover mark 2]

jlb524 wrote...

ashlover mark 2 wrote...

i suppose because some ppl may be under the notion that in order to avoid an unwanted bisexual advance they cant really be nice and pick paragon options,which tend to start the intial romance for most charecters.

Yeah, I understand that.  From my experience in ME2 (as FemShep) I was able to avoid romances with the three available guys by being nice...it wasn't about picking one option over another, but just about avoiding the flirty options.

I think people are coming off of DA2 where you have to be a bit mean to Anders in order to turn him down.  I didn't like that even playing as a female.  I'd hope they'd avoid that in ME3.

I also think another issue was with Jack in ME2 with a MaleShep...if you were nice to her and went the Paragon 'friend' route, the romance would be initiated.  They just need to do a better job of differentiating between 'friend' dialog and romance.  Though, Paragon and Renegade points are never tied to romance dialog.

I must say that I appreciate your sensible attitude towards a possible bisexual Ashley...I actually share your concerns with it's implementation as a FemShep that just wants to stay friends with her.  I don't want to see Ash pissed off at me because I turned the romance down, effectively cutting off further friendship dialog.

you know for all the issues i may have with DA2 the mass effect dev team could really take a page from them in other areas such as NPC interaction and the dialogue wheel.

im not sure how you feel about it but i think it worked prertty good.

i could be heroic when i wanted to, i could be frustarted or annoyed and i could be loveing or flirty aswell.imagine the awsome interactions with ash or any of the other squadmates we could have if we just knew what we are going to say will comeout.

also thank you,i am stong beliver that any point of view can be understood if one talks civily and sensibley towards the topic.

[jlb524]

ashlover mark 2 wrote...
you know for all the issues i may have with DA2 the mass effect dev team could really take a page from them in other areas such as NPC interaction and the dialogue wheel.

im not sure how you feel about it but i think it worked prertty good.

i could be heroic when i wanted to, i could be frustarted or annoyed and i could be loveing or flirty aswell.imagine the awsome interactions with ash or any of the other squadmates we could have if we just knew what we are going to say will comeout.

also thank you,i am stong beliver that any point of view can be understood if one talks civily and sensibley towards the topic.

Haha, yeah...the issues I had with DA2 had nothing to do with companion dialog and romance...I think they did a good job at separating out friend dialog from romance dialog.  I never felt trapped by a romance as it was pretty clear when I was getting into one.  As I mentioned above, even if you avoid the romance stuff, you can still continue with the character as a friend and open up their full dialog path (something ME2 lacked unfortunately).

And yes, civil discussion is always welcome

[Maugrim]

As has been said by me and others many times before, nobody likes ninjamances. Anyone who complains about a potential Ashley flirting with femshep/Anders hitting on a dude but didn't complain about the various Asari hitting on Shepard, Alistair hitting on a female Warden, Morrigan hitting on a male warden and so forth are just being disingenuous. I can respect the position of not getting hit upon first by any NPC, though I personally disagree with it. I prefer that to be left up to the personality of the NPC. And of course it's always nice to have a wide variety of responses to their advances. However getting worked up over the NPC's reaction to your rejection is absolutely mind boggling.  If I had a nickel for everytime someone has misinterpeted an action or word of mine I'd be buying up all EA stock to geta controlling interest in Bioware! As long as it's in character for that NPC who gives a rats flying wazoo?

Modifié par makenzieshepard, 17 juillet 2011 - 07:36 .

[ashlover mark 2]

@jlb and with DA2s system no one could complain about falling into an unwanted romance.....if you somehow missed the giant heart icon on the wheel and picked it....you should probly play something a little less complicated.

but alas the demo showed no indication that they would go this route.

would have loved to pick a jokeing option and KNOW shep would tell a joke during a scene where i would want to cheer ash up.

[jlb524]

makenzieshepard wrote...

As has been said by me and others many times before, nobody likes ninjamances. Anyone who complains about a potential Ashley flirting with femshep/Anders hitting on a dude but didn't complain about the various Asari hitting on Shepard, Alistair hitting on a female Warden, Morrigan hitting on a male warden and so forth are just being disingenuous. I can respect the position of not getting hit upon first by any NPC, though I personally disagree with it. I prefer that to be left up to the personality of the NPC. And of course it's always nice to have a wide variety of responses to their advances. However getting worked up over the NPC's reaction to your rejection is absolutely mind boggling.  If I had a nickel for everytime someone has misinterpeted an action or word of mine I'd be buying up all EA stock to geta controlling interest in Bioware! As long as it's in character for that NPC who gives a rats flying wazoo?

I don't really care either as long as the rejection dialog is 'nice' and not 'don't look at me like that, what's your problem!!'

[Maugrim]

ashlover mark 2 wrote...

@jlb and with DA2s system no one could complain about falling into an unwanted romance.....if you somehow missed the giant heart icon on the wheel and picked it....you should probly play something a little less complicated.

but alas the demo showed no indication that they would go this route.

would have loved to pick a jokeing option and KNOW shep would tell a joke during a scene where i would want to cheer ash up.

Tone indicators would be awesome for ME and were a stroke of genius for DA.  My female Shep's often "flirt" with Alenko and are then surprised by how serious he seems to take things.  They were just joking!

@jlb

The middle option shouldn't have been a heart in that dialogue.  But c'est la vie.....

Modifié par makenzieshepard, 17 juillet 2011 - 07:41 .

[jlb524]

ashlover mark 2 wrote...

@jlb and with DA2s system no one could complain about falling into an unwanted romance.....if you somehow missed the giant heart icon on the wheel and picked it....you should probly play something a little less complicated.

but alas the demo showed no indication that they would go this route.

would have loved to pick a jokeing option and KNOW shep would tell a joke during a scene where i would want to cheer ash up.

Ah, so you want to have them add 'personality' to the wheel similar to DA2?  I admit that this would add more options to the relationship possibilities.  I agree with that...for example, if you have romantic dialog with Ash in ME3 it would be cool if you could go a few different routes with it instead of just picking the stock 'romance' option.

makenzieshepard wrote...

@jlb

The middle option shouldn't have been a heart in that dialogue.  But c'est la vie.....

Which dialog?

Modifié par jlb524, 17 juillet 2011 - 07:42 .