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[Ashaman X]

I've got a question, it's probably been asked before, but anyway.

How does Ash get away with her hair being down in ME3? She's been promoted to LC of course, but every female figure I've seen in the Alliance has had their hair tied back, up, in a bun etc.. The art book in the CE says they wanted to give Ash more sex appeal, but in game, I wonder how she got away with it. Of course, once she's a Spectre it doesn't really matter, but it's been something I've been thinking about.

Even though it's not mentioned in game, my Shep was very happy to see her with her hair down lol. He is so easily distracted when it comes to her.

[Rudy Lis]

It's... Ash magic!

Pfeh. But honestly? I think it's just eye candy and anything else. i never had my hairs long (if I can pinch them with finger - they long enough and need to be groomed), but back at school played in school theater and wore long hair, "wig", right? After wearing it I'm pretty sure than long hairs are not fitting any activity (sitting on your six is not activitiy). Starting from flailing long, unrestricted hairs give, blocking your visibility and getting into eyes, strange behaviour under helmet (not sure they will absorb any significant amount of energy, and adding problems with perspiration, sweating, body grease, skin flakes, etc.

We know little about quarians' biology, but for very same reasons I lol'ed at "Tali's picture". Back in army we had long exhaustive training where we practically lived in NBC suits for several days and though we had short haircuts, our heads (and bodies) were covered by such thick amount of grime, dirt and grease so it took a long time to wash everything away when we returned back to barracks.

No, I do not propose "G.I. Ash" hairstyle, but bun should be better and more logical.

Plus those face "oxygen masks" don't have proper face sealing. Moreover, lack of helmets disturbs me a bit. Not that I believe they will always protect you from projectile (they don't, unless you wear special very heavy (2-3.5 kg IRL) helmets) impact, but they could protect you from shrapnel, glancing hits and, what most important, blunt traumas, caused by anything, starting from blast waves, excessive moves, slips, whatever.

Oh, almost forgot. Regarding "sex appeal". I think there is thin line between "appeal" and "vulgar". Plus, personally, I think that if you like particular woman for long term relationship, you like her not because of huge cleavage, tight pants over bottocks and other "eye candy" elements. Attractive woman is attractive even with minimal if any make-up and modest clothing. Just my 2 cents.

Modifié par Rudy Lis, 17 avril 2012 - 09:50 .

[Helmnath]

jdmteggy4life wrote...

someone should make fanfic about ashley getting pregnant after me3 ending or them getting married or something.

Just catching up with thread - I have seen a few fics try and do this, trying to keep away from that in my fic as not sure I could write it without it sounding cheesy.

[Hellfire257]

dahellraider wrote...

                                                                    Part 3: No more

The sad thing is that I've actually known of this happening except it was with chocolate cake instead of pancakes. Fortunately, I wasn't on the receiving end! 

[Rudy Lis]

Helmnath wrote...

Just catching up with thread - I have seen a few fics try and do this, trying to keep away from that in my fic as not sure I could write it without it sounding cheesy.

No cheesecake then?

[CptData]

*post war*

Ashley: Good morning, Champ.
Shepard: "Champ"? *amused*
Ashley: Yeah. Since you're no longer CO of the Normandy ...
Shepard: Guess I'll miss "Skipper" then ...
Ashley: I still don't get it: why did you retire?
Shepard: I'm still a Spectre and advisor of the Alliance, Ash. It's not that I'm lazy now.
Ashley: You belong on board of the Normandy, not behind a desk.
Shepard: *sighs* you're right. But duty calls. And since the galaxy is saved, I'm needed elsewhere.
Ashley: Nonsense. Did you check the news recently? Turians and Asari found an Alliance against the Salarians since they didn't help us in the final assault. Krogans are with them as well, but seem to attack Batarian colonies as well. We're facing another galaxy wide war and you're needed there to talk to the people.
Shepard: Admiral Hackett stated clearly we should better keep the Alliance out of any conflicts.
Ashley: Hackett is an idiot ... with all due respect.
Shepard: Ashley ...
Ashley: Okay, Shepard. You told me once we need to stand together - and stand strong. Hackett used the same words before the Battle of Earth. Why's everyone pointing guns at each other? Doesn't make sense to me.
Shepard: I don't understand them either. Ash, if I could, I would change something, but ...
Ashley: ... you don't because Hackett told you?
Shepard: No. I don't take orders from him anymore. I resigned, remember?
Ashley: Then do something. You didn't save the galaxy just to lose it a day later.
Shepard: Any idea where to start, Ash? Tell me!
Ashley: Why not talking to the Council? I know, it is no more, but why not getting them back together? You can do this. You're a symbol of life. They're going to listen to you.
Shepard: Right. I don't know where you get that idea, but you're wrong-
Ashley: You give up?
Shepard: Yes, I do! I saved the galaxy three times, died once, almost got killed a second time. I did more than anyone else. And still I can't have a rest, at least for a few months!
Ashley: John, you deserve a rest. But you can't put down duty now ... I'm with you. With you in this mess.
Shepard: *sighs* ... okay. I'll think about it, hmm?
Ashley: Fine. That's all I wanted to hear, Champ.
Shepard: Please, call me Skipper ...
Ashley: "Skipper" *smiles* welcome back in duty ...

[Igib]

Rudy Lis wrote...

...I think that if you like particular woman for long term relationship, you like her not because of huge cleavage, tight pants over bottocks and other "eye candy" elements. Attractive woman is attractive even with minimal if any make-up and modest clothing...

Such wisdom... I think that we all could think of some irl examples on how long relationships based solely on physical attraction last (and how they usually end). But let's just go with: There are Shepards. And Ashleys. And then, there are horny dogs (/wave Ken). And wh*res on high heels (/wave Miranda).

Modifié par Igib, 17 avril 2012 - 10:40 .

[Totally Not Swaggacide]

@Hellfire
Stop your hatred of pancakes!
Pancakes are amazing just like Ashley

[Totally Not Swaggacide]

Very nice CptData

[Igib]

Previously...

Ashley, Jr.: So, my Daddy died a hero?
Ashley: No. Not that day, anyway.
Ashley, Jr.: But... how could he survive?
Ashley: Um... space magic?
Ashley, Jr.: ...
Ashley: Ok. The Gods intervened. Told him that it wasn't his time yet. That he'll have to apper in many, many more dialogues and stories before they let him rest.
Ashley, Jr.: Are you part of those too, Mom?
Ashley: Sure thing, honey. I am the main protagonist, after all. He's just my sidekick. *snickers*
Shepard: You realize I'm sitting right here, right?
Ashley: I didn't give you permission to speak, Skipper.
Shepard: ...
Ashley, Jr.: Wow. You're a real badass, Mom. When I grew up, I want to be exactly like you!
Shepard: ...great.

[Totally Not Swaggacide]

Very nice Igib

[Rudy Lis]

Igib wrote...

Such wisdom...

Not sure if serious. No offense meant: wisdom and I generally to be considered polar opposites (dump university to join army, for example) by many - they color me as Minsc (and gift me hamster for purpose) or Vega. Not as strong, of course.

Igib wrote...

I think that we all could think of some irl examples on how long relationships based solely on physical attraction last (and how they usually end). But let's just go with: There are Shepards. And Ashleys. And then, there are horny dogs (/wave Ken).

That's why I like ME1 Ash. Or ME2. In ME3? Not so much. Not at all, I'd say, even romance scene is strange.

Plus, what I certainly don't get - if even in old GTA:San Andreas it was possible to change your appearance and you can, to some extent, ask your loved ones to do so, why they don't implement it in ME? Yes, up to stupid "Ash, why wouldn't you let your hair down/gather them back in the bun?"

I think they surely drop the ball here, just imagine - from the very beginning Ash has her hair in strict military bun or any other compact form - now she is officer, so she would behave, given her family story. Then Mars > Hospital > Coup > Return to Normandy and then  (finally!) strongly anticipated reunion (a-la Tali's first visit in cabin).
My sketch on that:
- Ash walks into cabin, "requests confirmation" on status of their relationships and, if confirmed, asks permission to stay for a bit.
- If given, Ash unbuttones top button on her uniform - just one, not all of them down to navel! Point here - be a little bit "out of duty/uniform", to stress more private/caring relationships and to strees she feels free and safe in Shepard's presence.
- Now, during some physical contact with Shepard, such as hug or holding pancakes hand, right before Shepard reach her for kiss (and subsequent screen blackout), Ash stops Shepard's head movement placing her index finger on his lips, winks, moves her hand at the back of her head, says something like: "Oh, skipper, I think I have one more surpire for you" and then letting her hairs down, first time on screen.
I'd add surprised Shepard's look, his even somewhat childishly curiocity while touching one of Ash's hair's strand, and Shepard's teasing response (rising brow is optional), something like "you full of surprises, spectre". Then Ash reaches him for a kiss and whispers with same teasing tone "Semper Fi" or something like that, to stress he stayed faithful to her regardless of anything.

I dunno like you, but I'd melt here a bit.


Sorry for style, I typed that in haste, we have "emergency crunch" on work, so I use small pauses to type it all in. And don't shoot piano player, he's doing best he can.

Igib wrote...

And wh*res on high heels (/wave Miranda).

As a Slavic member of the community I object. Not to your words - you just stating fact, but on Miranda's look. Dem cheekbones!

Totally Not Swaggacide wrote...

@Hellfire
Stop your hatred of pancakes!
Pancakes are amazing just like Ashley

Okay, okay, stop your pancakely obsessed moster!
I sign treaty with my SO that she'll allow me to bake tower of pancakes first, than make photo of it to keep you at least visually satieted!
P.S. Given way previous pancake treaties went, I doubt it'll be something higher than 5 cm/2 inches.

Modifié par Rudy Lis, 17 avril 2012 - 11:35 .

[Igib]

Rudy Lis wrote...

That's why I like ME1 Ash. Or ME2. In ME3? Not so much. Not at all, I'd say, even romance scene is strange.

Plus, what I certainly don't get - if even in old GTA:San Andreas it was possible to change your appearance and you can, to some extent, ask your loved ones to do so, why they don't implement it in ME? Yes, up to stupid "Ash, why wouldn't you let your hair down/gather them back in the bun?"

I think they surely drop the ball here, just imagine - from the very beginning Ash has her hair in strict military bun or any other compact form - now she is officer, so she would behave, given her family story. Then Mars > Hospital > Coup > Return to Normandy and then  (finally!) strongly anticipated reunion (a-la Tali's first visit in cabin).
My sketch on that:
- Ash walks into cabin, "requests confirmation" on status of their relationships and, if confirmed, asks permission to stay for a bit.
- If given, Ash unbuttones top button on her uniform - just one, not all of them down to navel! Point here - be a little bit "out of duty/uniform", to stress more private/caring relationships and to strees she feels free and safe in Shepard's presence.
- Now, during some physical contact with Shepard, such as hug or holding pancakes hand, right before Shepard reach her for kiss (and subsequent screen blackout), Ash stops Shepard's head movement placing her index finger on his lips, winks, moves her hand at the back of her head, says something like: "Oh, skipper, I think I have one more surpire for you" and then letting her hairs down, first time on screen.
I'd add surprised Shepard's look, his even somewhat childishly curiocity while touching one of Ash's hair's strand, and Shepard's teasing response (rising brow is optional), something like "you full of surprises, spectre". Then Ash reaches him for a kiss and whispers with same teasing tone "Semper Fi" or something like that, to stress he stayed faithful to her regardless of anything.

I dunno like you, but I'd melt here a bit.

That. Would. BE. Amazing! Sadly, there's a difference between a writer loving his/her work (ME1) and a writer just doing his/her job (ME3). And it shows. The scenes in ME3 are good (some more, some less), but they lack the connection.

...and here I go whining about it again.

[CptData]

Igib wrote...

That. Would. BE. Amazing! Sadly, there's a difference between a writer loving his/her work (ME1) and a writer just doing his/her job (ME3). And it shows. The scenes in ME3 are good (some more, some less), but they lack the connection.

...and here I go whining about it again.

So true.
Think fans of a certain characters are better than writers who getting paid writing stuff for that character without feeling the same attachment like the fans.

Ashley's original writer almost seems to be in love with her.
Too bad he's not in the team anymore.

[Rudy Lis]

Igib wrote...

That. Would. BE. Amazing!

"Thank you, kind sir!"

Igib wrote...

Sadly, there's a difference between a writer loving his/her work (ME1) and a writer just doing his/her job (ME3).

No, not "doing". Hating his job and wanting it to end.
I know this feeling too well - sometimes we got such contracts you just dream to get rid of.

Igib wrote...

And it shows. The scenes in ME3 are good (some more, some less), but they lack the connection.

Some scene in ME3 are good, most are just mediocre or horrible outright.
Yeah, my pet peeves, I know.

Igib wrote...

...and here I go whining about it again.

No, not whining. Reasonably complaining.

CptData wrote...

So true.
Think fans of a certain characters are better than writers who getting paid writing stuff for that character without feeling the same attachment like the fans.

Ashley's original writer almost seems to be in love with her.

Yeah. We "whine" much because we care.

CptData wrote...

Too bad he's not in the team anymore.

You know who was that?


And something to reflect my feeling on writing:



And another shameless bump, to reflect Data words:



P.S. I will remove these images if they irritates you. No loss for me: I'm no artist and I have no integrity.

Modifié par Rudy Lis, 17 avril 2012 - 12:40 .

[Clone 071]

Now here's something you don't see everyday.

[CptData]

Clone 071 wrote...

Now here's something you don't see everyday.

Ash "backups" Liara, huh?

[Rudy Lis]

Clone 071 wrote...

Now here's something you don't see everyday.

"new meaning of word "bipod".

I know, totally off-topic, but had to call home and ask my SO to upload this:



And before you send an angry mob of talimancers for my skin - those pictures were taken during my "Talimancer" playthrough.

Modifié par Rudy Lis, 17 avril 2012 - 01:20 .

[CptData]

^ I heard his name before but simply can't remember, PhoenixIsra ...

[Igib]

Clone 071 wrote...

Now here's something you don't see everyday.

At first, I didn't know what to say. Then I looked at your avatar...

What's that?!
A sniper rifle...
For those... "special" moments.

[Drake Averrod]

CptData wrote...

^ I heard his name before but simply can't remember, PhoenixIsra ...

IIRC his name was Chris L'Etoile and I think he left Bioware. 

[dahellraider]

Igib wrote...

Hellfire257 wrote...

Igib wrote...

*dialogue*

What's this from? Episode V: The Waffles strike back?  

Please do more!

If you think the enemy are some enraged mutated pancakes, then it would be Episode III. But they're not, sorry.

@Aurora
Great dialogues. Both of them.

@dahellrider
Yours too, Zaeed ^^

Sir, thats Dahellraider to you lol

[CptData]

Drake Averrod wrote...

CptData wrote...

^ I heard his name before but simply can't remember, PhoenixIsra ...

IIRC his name was Chris L'Etoile and I think he left Bioware. 

Yes - that's the man. Any chance to get in touch with him? I want him back for a ME!reboot