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Lt. Commander Ashley Williams thread: "Don't 'Ash' me!" We're Back Baby!


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#27951
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I always let the VS shoot Udina, they need to grow a bit.

As capable as all the squad's mate are, they are always overshadowed by Shepard. Wrex broke out of this earliest because he left early, Liara followed his example and did her own thing and made a name for herself. Garrus and Tali got roped into the whole collector thing but eventually rose to leadership in their respective race.

VS on the other hand, get shafted because let's be honest, as long as Shepard is around, they can only ever be the second most capable human, and that's not even counting Hackett and Anderson. (I really only ever mention ME1 crew because they are the only true companions for my Shepard)

Letting them shoot Udina makes me feel better by letting VS gain some fame. I get solace in that when my Shepard dies fusing with the reaper, I trained my Ashley well enough to take over his mantle and become leader of the human race (after Hackett retires, of course)

Modifié par pprrff, 19 avril 2012 - 03:42 .


#27952
Helmnath

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I personally want my Shepard to settle down with Ashley somewhere no death and Ash taking over in my headcanon :D

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Hellfire257 wrote...

You just nicked that off the Wiki didn't you? LOL!

I do not have a headcanon. I just hit the giant pause button called Alt-F4 on my last playthrough where I wanted it to stop.


the pic, yes i did was in a rush to go to sleep. The litle story I came up with is all in my heads.

Modifié par dahellraider, 19 avril 2012 - 04:02 .


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CptData wrote...

VA_FyreHeart wrote...

It's what I always loved about Tali: She's smart, capable, but thoroughly feminine. Tali, and now Ashley, are proof that women don't have to be butch to be strong.


Now, technically Ash never was "butch to be strong". I fell for her in ME1 - because of the very same reasons why you fell for her in ME3 :blush:


Yes and no. Ash always had a certain femininity, even in ME1, but there was a bit of butch undercurrent in her ME1 persona, too (IMHO). That seems to be gone in ME3, but without compromising her strength or competence.

Again, just my subtextualizing to her character. Bottom line is, she's actually made me question my Talimancing. :)

#27955
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To this day, I honestly don't know why I first fell for Ash in Me1. I'm sure its the same reasons you guys are getting, but I honestly don't know. I just kinda fell for her :)

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DWH1982

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The simple explanation for how she ended up my canon LI is this: She's frigging awesome.

#27957
dahellraider

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With Ash, nothing is ever so simple is it.

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Dannycni

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I'd have to say I fell for her in ME1 and so throughout the whole trilogy cause I thought she was funny, strong, emotionally deep, charasmatic and was a looker. No doubt in my mind her relationship with Shepard was my favourite even though I became more and more a fan of Garrus especially cause Ash wasn't in your crew in ME2 so someone had to fill the void...not sexually though :P

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Dannycni

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pprrff wrote...

Letting them shoot Udina makes me feel better by letting VS gain some fame. I get solace in that when my Shepard dies fusing with the reaper, I trained my Ashley well enough to take over his mantle and become leader of the human race (after Hackett retires, of course)


But... I have to ask does she get that chance to be humanities leader? If they crash land on a distant planet with no way home are the crew that crash lands just stuck there? This was one thing I couldn't understand was left unaswered at the end of the game.

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The ending... I just ignore the ending.

You are right, however. In all likelyhood, the "canon" ending is that she doesn't get the chance.

The ending is just a sore point with me, though. No chance for Shep and Ash to be happy together. Not even an option for that, or the kind of "triumphant" ending that feels like Mass Effect to me. I guess it's okay for people who like it, but it's why I've lost a lot of interest in the ME games and why I plan to slowly move away from the franchise.

#27961
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somehow, I will turn that ending into where shepard spends the rest of his life searching for her. Because in my ending he doesn't die. And you can still travel with FTL if the relays are really destroyed or not. But he will or could eventually find her.

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Dannycni

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I do wonder why there wasn't a chance for a triumphant ending as you talk about as well as the down and sad ending that there is. Why not give the characters who have gone through so much the chance to end the trilogy happy. Maybe I'm just a big softy at heart.

But the crash landing planet thing really gets me, I don't understand where they are, why they were in the Normandy anyway and what happens now.

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Dannycni

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dahellraider wrote...

somehow, I will turn that ending into where shepard spends the rest of his life searching for her. Because in my ending he doesn't die. And you can still travel with FTL if the relays are really destroyed or not. But he will or could eventually find her.



I hear that, next run through I'm gonna make sure my Shepard survives and then I'll end it believing that somehow, someday they meet again and live happily ever after

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I just ignore everything past getting hit by Harbinger. I was dodging those beams easily until Shepard just froze and stood there for a second so Harbinger could get a clear shot. Utter garbage. I have no head canon to explain beyond that point though. Like I said earlier, I just hit the "pause" button.

I'm going to see what this "clarification" comes up with before I go any further.

Modifié par Hellfire257, 19 avril 2012 - 05:52 .


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None of the endings make any sense. Synthesis is most defiantly the most retarded one

Control - How does grabbing two blue glowing dildos and disintegrating gain you control of the reapers?

Destroy - really stupid but mildly acceptable

And don't even get me started about StarKid........

Modifié par Totally Not Swaggacide, 19 avril 2012 - 05:56 .


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hay TNS you know what does make since, i know you know that I know what your thinking of, so say it.

But yeah, I'm just saying even with the horrible endings, it could somehow still be possible to one day be together.

Modifié par dahellraider, 19 avril 2012 - 05:55 .


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Dannycni

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Thats true i don't get why you would choose synthesis...to keep this on topic
ASHLEY ROCKS!!!

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In all honesty, it doesn't even make sense for Ash to be trapped on an alien world. She was on Earth. My entire squad was on Earth. I'd imagine each of them has a role to play in the ground fight, even if they're not with me directly. Why are they suddenly on the Normandy? Why would they leave while the fight is still going on?

In my head canon ending, I don't even think the Mass Relays were destroyed. Many of them were damaged, but most of the network is still there. Ash finds Shepard in the rubble, stays with him until help arrives, and then stays with him while he recovers. Eventually they go to Intai'sei so he can have some peace while he's healing.

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Dannycni

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DWH1982 wrote...

In all honesty, it doesn't even make sense for Ash to be trapped on an alien world. She was on Earth. My entire squad was on Earth. I'd imagine each of them has a role to play in the ground fight, even if they're not with me directly. Why are they suddenly on the Normandy? Why would they leave while the fight is still going on?

In my head canon ending, I don't even think the Mass Relays were destroyed. Many of them were damaged, but most of the network is still there. Ash finds Shepard in the rubble, stays with him until help arrives, and then stays with him while he recovers. Eventually they go to Intai'sei so he can have some peace while he's healing.


I think that's how I choose to think about the end as well and am glad I found this forum where others say the same things. But yea I really don't understand why your crew if with you then all of a sudden on the Normandy and not on Earth.

#27970
dahellraider

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here's to hoping for extended cut to give us want we want CHEERS EVERYONE

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I'll hang around (maybe) long enough to see the reaction to the extended cut, but I don't expect much from it. They're just explaining the endings more. I more or less already understand everything, though, except for some of the oddities I just pointed out, such as the squadmates that are suddenly back on the ship.

It's not that I don't understand the endings. It's that I don't like them.

I say that with all respect for Bioware. While ME3 wasn't perfect, it was still, up until the end, miles ahead of most games I've ever played. They should be proud of the hard work and effort they put into their game. But it doesn't change how I feel about the ending, or what it did to the franchise for me.

EDIT: Anyway, I'm horribly off topic, so we should probably go back to discussing Ash.

Modifié par DWH1982, 19 avril 2012 - 06:19 .


#27972
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The director's cut will probably be something more like this.

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Then Casey will walk into your house and kick you in the nuts.

Modifié par Complistic, 19 avril 2012 - 06:28 .


#27973
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I GOT IT! If Ashley were to retire and get a civilian job, what job could you see here doing. (like how I said I could see shepard as a teacher) but now its with Ashley. I honestly don't know atm, maybe i comes up with one.

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Dannycni

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Yea as you say DWH1982 how much more will the dlc actually give us cause it's only further explanation rather than new content, I love Mass Effect but the ending does evoke both positive and negative feelings and I just feel with a bit more clarification and time it could have put itself into the category of one of the best games of all time, although it'll always be up there for me.

Back on topic when I do another run through of the Mass Effect trilogy I'm gonna do as previously said about just stopping the game before the end. I'm gonna stop it after Anderson tells Shepard he's proud of him and I'll live in ignorance that everything worked and Joker flew back up to the Citadel with Ashely on board and she ran out of the ship, searched all over the Citadel and eventually found Shepard lying unconscious, she cradles his head and waits until help arives then waits on him while he recovers in hospital until they eventually go home. Most of that has already been said on here, I liked it so i want to believe it. As Dr Who said "The one thing you can't do is stop people thinking"

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dahellraider wrote...

I GOT IT! If Ashley were to retire and get a civilian job, what job could you see here doing. (like how I said I could see shepard as a teacher) but now its with Ashley. I honestly don't know atm, maybe i comes up with one.


I honestly can't see her having a civilian job I think if she retired she would still stay in the miliatry as an instructor or trainer etc. She couldn't work in an office and I don't think she could be a full time housewife