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Lt. Commander Ashley Williams thread: "Don't 'Ash' me!" We're Back Baby!


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DWH1982 wrote...

I really don't understand hating any of the characters. I kinda disliked Javik for awhile, but then I took him with Liara on Thessia.

I also don't understand refusing to talk to a particular character, like with Ashley. It's basically saying, "I don't want to make full use of the content in this game I paid good money for."


Too true.

I may not agree with certain character's views but that's why I like them. I don't hate any characters either.

I can understand why Javik can rub people the wrong way though initially. You know, I'm surprised we haven't seen more posts about him being xenophobic/racist. 

"Throw Legion out of the airlock!? How could he!? Lynch him!"

Javik explains that the Protheans had their own problems with synthetics. He's been in stasis for what, 50,000 years? How is he supposed to know the full nature of the Geth?

I think his situation is remarkably similar to Ashley's except more exaggerated.

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Renegade Shepard was awesome in 1 & 2 but sucked in 3

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AshleyMadelineWilliams wrote...


Agreed, although i think Javik is a pain in the behind for most of the game, i talk to him for more info on the protheans. My Shep is open minded - so i put up with it. 


It took a little longer for my Shep to like him than for me to like him as a character. In the end, though, I think Shepard starts to understand a little about why, perhaps, Javik is the way he is.

In my canon, Javik is also picked up fairly late. The Eden Prime mission happens with Ash along.

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Agreed, although i think Javik is a pain in the behind for most of the game, i talk to him for more info on the protheans. My Shep is open minded - so i put up with it. 


It took a little longer for my Shep to like him than for me to like him as a character. In the end, though, I think Shepard starts to understand a little about why, perhaps, Javik is the way he is.

In my canon, Javik is also picked up fairly late. The Eden Prime mission happens with Ash along.


Same... nice to have Ashley reminiscin while your there. The good old days :crying:

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There was also a reference (in reply to Ash, I think) to Edwin Shepard's colonist backround. Which made me happy.

In ME2, your background was barely referenced at all.

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DWH1982 wrote...

There was also a reference (in reply to Ash, I think) to Ediwn Shepard's colonist backround. Which made me happy.

In ME2, your background was barely referenced at all.


Im guessing on Eden prime?
If so, my Shep is Spacer Kid... might just change for the heck of it :lol:

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Yeah. I think Ash said something about the Eden Prime colonists "rebuilding," and Shep says something like, "they rebuilt on Mindoir. It wasn't the same."

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There's a reference for each background, AFAIK. :)

Modifié par Hellfire257, 20 avril 2012 - 10:07 .


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DWH1982 wrote...

AshleyMadelineWilliams wrote...


Agreed, although i think Javik is a pain in the behind for most of the game, i talk to him for more info on the protheans. My Shep is open minded - so i put up with it. 


It took a little longer for my Shep to like him than for me to like him as a character. In the end, though, I think Shepard starts to understand a little about why, perhaps, Javik is the way he is.

In my canon, Javik is also picked up fairly late. The Eden Prime mission happens with Ash along.


I had Ash with me. Javik is an interesting character - but I definitely don't get why ppl want to romance Mr. Spacetroll. At least at the beginning he's one. At the end he seems to be the Prothean most ppl had in their mind. ^^

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There isn't one of the main characters, well squadmates anyway, that I dislike or would say anything bad about cause I've spent so much time talking with them and learning everything they have to share with you. So for so many people to say they dislike one character seems...harsh to say the least.

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People want to romance Javik? I mean... ew.

I had a hard decision between picking Ash or Javik for the Thessia mission, btw. Javik wasn't getting used much, but I wanted Ash with me as much as possible. In the end, I went with Javik, because I thought there were more missions to the game left than there really were.

As much as I'd like to have Ash with me on Thessia, I think that Javik was the right decision. His dialouge there, especially in the asari temple, just seems "right."

I pretend that Ash, Garrus, and James took the other shuttle to a different part of the planet to help evacuate civilians and wounded.

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Mr. Spacetroll? Now I like that! :lol:

When I first got to know him I thought that he was a douche, but an honest douche. Honesty is a quality I really appreciate. I don't care what you have to say as long as you are honest about it. I wish more people would be up-front and honest rather than hiding their opinions in other places.

I guess that's another reason I like Ash: she isn't afraid to call bull**** on something Shepard says or does.

I took Ash on the Thessia mission as I'd already datamined the lines for Javik! :D

Modifié par Hellfire257, 20 avril 2012 - 10:22 .


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Yeah romancing Javik will never work. He is incredibly vague.... not to mention it just wouldnt work at all o_O

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not to mention it just wouldnt work at all o_O


How can you be sure? :devil:

My Ashley was stranded with Javik on that damned planet! <_<

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Poor Ash.

I dont wanna think about the official ending. I want to think about my head canon ending.

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not to mention it just wouldnt work at all o_O


How can you be sure? :devil:

My Ashley was stranded with Javik on that damned planet! <_<


:( ...... 

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Poor Ash.

I dont wanna think about the official ending. I want to think about my head canon ending.


You mean the one where Ashley finds a barely alive Shepard? The ending where Ash kisses Shepard and he opens his eyes, faintly smiling, while trying to grab her hand? That ending where he finally recovers and settles down with Ash for a long living, romantic and incredible passionate relationship ... ?


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I'm more worried what he's going to throw things out of with the lack of an airlock.

That was just the final nail in the coffin for me, that scene. I didn't know whether to laugh at the awkwardness of it all or just cry in despair!

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You mean the one where Ashley finds a barely alive Shepard? The ending where Ash kisses Shepard and he opens his eyes, faintly smiling, while trying to grab her hand? That ending where he finally recovers and settles down with Ash for a long living, romantic and incredible passionate relationship ... ?


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Yes.

The real ending.

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Renegade Shepard was awesome in 1 & 2 but sucked in 3


Nonsense!

ME1 you were just a plain jerk to everyone.

ME2 you were just a hardass.
 
ME3 you're finally full-fledged evil bad ass.

ME3's renegade blows the other two out of the water IMO. I mean killing Mordin/sabo'ing the cure/possibly betraying Wrex, letting Samara off herself/killing Falere, shooting Ash/Kaidan (which I've never done btw) and Udina, being responsible for both Legion and Tali's death, shooting TIM.

I loved it. The renegade responses during conversations were more harsh too, where it made you question what would happen if you chose it because it was so harsh. I only paragon during scenes with Ash to get the romance secured.

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Instance wrote...

Renegade Shepard was awesome in 1 & 2 but sucked in 3


Nonsense!

ME1 you were just a plain jerk to everyone.

ME2 you were just a hardass.
 
ME3 you're finally full-fledged evil bad ass.

ME3's renegade blows the other two out of the water IMO. I mean killing Mordin/sabo'ing the cure/possibly betraying Wrex, letting Samara off herself/killing Falere, shooting Ash/Kaidan (which I've never done btw) and Udina, being responsible for both Legion and Tali's death, shooting TIM.

I loved it. The renegade responses during conversations were more harsh too, where it made you question what would happen if you chose it because it was so harsh. I only paragon during scenes with Ash to get the romance secured.


Shooting TIM was fun... but im replaying it :lol:

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BP93 wrote...

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Renegade Shepard was awesome in 1 & 2 but sucked in 3


Nonsense!

ME1 you were just a plain jerk to everyone.

ME2 you were just a hardass.
 
ME3 you're finally full-fledged evil bad ass.

ME3's renegade blows the other two out of the water IMO. I mean killing Mordin/sabo'ing the cure/possibly betraying Wrex, letting Samara off herself/killing Falere, shooting Ash/Kaidan (which I've never done btw) and Udina, being responsible for both Legion and Tali's death, shooting TIM.

I loved it. The renegade responses during conversations were more harsh too, where it made you question what would happen if you chose it because it was so harsh. I only paragon during scenes with Ash to get the romance secured.


Shooting TIM was fun... but im replaying it :lol:


The one that got me the "holy ****" reaction was when Samara off'ed herself and then I had the option to kill Falere too. I was stunned when I first did that. :o

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I took the renegade interrupt with that quarian admiral simply because my paragon Shep was mad at him.

I was expecting Shep to chew him out. Instead, he punched him. Right in the gut.

I laughed, I honestly did. The jerk deserved it. It's totally out of character with my Shep, though, so I don't consider it to be "official" for him.

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I prefer my TIM doing "The Saren". Too bad that didn't happen in my first playthrough and I can't get my ass moving for a second run. I just can do it until Ash is hurt ... but that's it. I remember the bad endings and the bad treatment of Ash as character and ... can't move on.

Meh. It's really hard to play that game if you really love a particular character that got sidelined like that ...

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CptData wrote...

I prefer my TIM doing "The Saren". Too bad that didn't happen in my first playthrough and I can't get my ass moving for a second run. I just can do it until Ash is hurt ... but that's it. I remember the bad endings and the bad treatment of Ash as character and ... can't move on.

Meh. It's really hard to play that game if you really love a particular character that got sidelined like that ...


I just sped through as quickly as possible to get her back. Not the same, but it's something.

Shame you basically have to maximize how many missions you can do with her just to get more content out of a character. <_<