dahellraider wrote...
@CptData
I c, so you're not going to torture us by them never being reunited, your going to torture us by shepard remembering everything (possibly) than he finds Ashley, and she moved on. I don't know which one is worse haha.
If CptData makes me cry, than i might have write my fanfic more than usual to have my semi happy ending sooner rather than later lol
Vega falling for Ash? I could only imagine that if Vega feels 'forced' to get closer to her. Otherwise the situation might feel ... forced. (Good use of words there brain! <_<) I say this because he hasn't really shown such interests. You're the writer though, your call ofcourse.CptData wrote...
dahellraider wrote...
@CptData
you could always make her pregnant, but it maybe a bet late or right on time. there are basically an infinite amount of things you can do. the choice is yours
Dunno - most likely not. I dislike extra drama through pregnancy :happy:
But think I'll add some extra drama - like Vega falling for Ash *g*
Or maybe Adams? Who knows
Modifié par Mr. Brainheart, 04 mai 2012 - 11:38 .
This is, what i'm think what you think?CptData wrote...
I'm extending the drunken scene by a lot ^^
Modifié par ExorioN PL, 04 mai 2012 - 12:28 .
Rudy Lis wrote...
If country do not want to feed her army - she will feed someone else's army. Sounds familiar?
Problem with Military - it is very easy to destroy, but very hard to reconstruct. It took around 2-3 years to grow up proper soldier, just private and about a decade to grow up proper company commander. To create unit cohesion inside that unit - you need around two more years, if they will work together.
And when I speak about company commander - officer, I think of Wehrmacht. I think their system of officers' training was and still is best. Candidate begin his service as private in combat regiment and then served year there. If at the end of this term he served well and got positive report from his commander, candidate received rank Fahnenjunker (equivalent to gefreiter) and after 2-6 months of theoretical studies, being sent to another combat unit where served 4-6 months on gefreiter's post and there he should have temporarly access to section command, to evaluate his abilities to command section. If he wasn't successful, he remained in that unut as gefreiter. If he was successful, then again, he returned to his "school" and after same 2-6 months of "theory" he was sent to third unit as section commander with rank of Fanenjunkerunteroffizier. There he should have temporarly access to post of platoon commander and Kompaniefeldwebel. If he failed, he remained in that unit as unteroffizier, if he succeded, then he returned to his "school" and after another session of theory, with rank of Fähnrich, he was sent to fourth unit to serve as platoon commander. After serving required period he returned to his "School" to pass exams, after which he received rank of Oberfähnrich and was sent to his future "permanent" unit, where he served until he received his Leutnant rank. Generally it took more than 3 years to walk this path, even during war. This helped to sort out unworthy candidates and prevented getting promoted by "protection".
That approach I respect - officers pass through every step from privates, know their life, their craft - because they were there, and every next step required about 4-6 months of "theoretical" and then practical training and learning.
And that's why I was fine with Ash career path until ME3. From Operations Chief to LtCdr in less then 6 months? Sorry, will never believe, will never accept, even if it doesn't matter in game. Because it matters. Devil in details, or what's that saying. There is no "unimportant" parts - you made one part unimportant, then another, then one more - and voila, ME3 Ash and many more.
Seeing how they treat her, I... Well, I can't say I'm glad, but I'm somewhat in peace with my decision to leave Ash on Virmire.
CptData wrote...
No sexy!timez between Vega and Ash, ExorioN. He's not that cheap to make Ash drunk for sex. ^^
Modifié par Rudy Lis, 04 mai 2012 - 01:03 .
Modifié par Hellfire257, 04 mai 2012 - 01:18 .
But it means that need to change something, but they won't...Rudy Lis wrote...
Ushanka wrote...
Yes, very good system, but too expensive.
Nope. It's not expensive. Of course, having "field schools" to train 20 y.o. guys and give then leitenant's stars in six months could be cheaper, unless you start calculating things on long run.Ushanka wrote...
And I don't think that our government will change something.
On that - we agree.Ushanka wrote...
Maybe we have bad officers and backward technology, but our soldiers have a strong spirit.
With all due respect (and I don't mean "kiss my ass") - I think "had strong spirit" is more appropriate.Ushanka wrote...
That's one of the reasons why they won in WW2. Situation was terrible, it's a miracle how they did it.
It wasn't miracle.Ushanka wrote...
In difficult times officers growing too fast in ranks. Maybe that's the reason?
Not that fast. Even Hartmann with all his allegedly 352 victories had one fast promotion - from Oberleutnant to Hauptmann in two months. But he was promoted to Oberleutnant rank in more that two years and he got his Major at last day of war (almost).
Ash jumped from OC to LtCdr in six months? Nah. Unless she singlehandedly beat couple of Sovereign class Reapers in melee...Ushanka wrote...
So then I hope your Shepard will not see her soon... On the other side, well, you know. (:
Well, that's the reason why I'm fine with Shepard's death. I'm not fine with way he died.
Modifié par Ushanka, 04 mai 2012 - 01:31 .
Aurora313 wrote...
Sarah: Sis? What are you doing out here in the middle of the night?
Ashley: Nothing, Just sitting, drinking. Thinking.
Sarah: That's obvious, you've been doing nothing but thinking since you got home from your last assignment.
Ashley: A lot of things when down there, and - I'm just confused, Sar'.
Sarah: *sits down next to her.* Do you wanna talk about it?
Ashley: I wouldn't even know where to start. *starts fiddling with ring on her finger before sliding it off.*
Sarah: Y'know, you never told me who gave you that ring.
Ashley: It was from a Captain at my CO's funeral.
Sarah: Oh, that Commander Shepard. The one that was...
Ashley: Declared missing yes.
Sarah: It looks beautiful. The pattern is so gorgerous.
Ashley: It's a celtic band. John loved things like this. He used to have a celtic armband tattoo as well.
Sarah: Sorry sis. I didn't mean to make you upset.
Ashley: Its fine. I'm not sad about it, at least not for the same reasons anymore. I'm sad that I may have to give this back, I always thought of it as keeping a little piece of him with me.
Sarah: The way you're talking sis, it almost sounds like he's come back.
Ashley: More like he found me. But I can't pretend the last two years didn't happen. He's... different. Changed.
Sarah: Sounds like he fell in with a bad crowd.
Ashley: More like the bad crowd found him. They blackmailed him, or coerced him or something. He spent two years with very bad people, Sar. Its the same face, the same voice but -
Sarah: God has a twisted sense of humour, but I'm sure there's a plan for all of this sis. You know I'm not as devoted as you, but I believe that there's a reason behind this. And who knows, maybe you'll find a way back to each other.
Ashley: That's the thing... I'm not sure if I want him back.
Sarah: Are you sure it's not the other way around, Ashie?
Ashley: ... You've got an annoying way of prying into my romantic life, kidster.
Sarah: Hehe. I'm just telling it like it is, Ashley.
Ashley: The truth is, I know who the man was and I loved him. But I don't know if I could love the man John is now.
Sarah: Well, sis. You don't know until you try. C'mon. You got an early flight to catch tomorrow. To the Citadel, isn't it?
Ashley: Yeah. Councilor Anderson and the rest of 'em want me to make my report in person. But I have an inkling that something else is up.
Sarah: Expecting the worst?
Ashley: Occupational hazard, Sar'. And with our family name, it's not exactly unrealistic either.
Sarah: You're such a pessimist. C'mon. On your feet. I'm tucking you in.
Ashley: Being bossed around by my baby sister, what has the universe come to?
You're right. Vega would treat her to a nice dinner and a blasto movie. Then Sexytimes!CptData wrote...
No sexy!timez between Vega and Ash, ExorioN. He's not that cheap to make Ash drunk for sex. ^^
Hellfire257 wrote...
Please keep this on topic, gentleman. I like your discussion but this isn't the place for it I'm afraid.
Ushanka wrote...
But it means that need to change something, but they won't...
Ushanka wrote...
Yes, "had strong spirit"... We are more like krogans now...
Ushanka wrote...
Well, it was luck and dedication of soldiers.
Ushanka wrote...
Maybe Alliance needs heroes to motivate soldires, and they promoted her?
Ushanka wrote...
Sometimes death is better option...
Modifié par Rudy Lis, 04 mai 2012 - 02:54 .
ExorioN PL wrote...
Whoa, next great dialogue. But it was here or on dialogue group forum.
Rudy Lis wrote...
Yeah. But remember Eve and don't lose hope.
It wasn't luck. It was dedication, skill, sometimes paid in blood and learnt the hard way and wish to fight with enemy who comes to destroy you, not just conquer.
Strange way to motivate soldiers. I see no reason behind her promotion. Kaidan, on other hand, is more "reasonable". His jump is quite fast too - from Staff Lt in ME1 to Staff Cdr in ME2 and then Major in ME3. But at least one jump - between ME1 and ME2, through LtCdr rank could be explained via, sort of "extraordinary" promotion or he could be promoted to LtCdr during events of ME1, but due all that fuss order lost in traffic. So if he was promoted right after Battle at Citadel or even after Normandy demise, that's fine - two years from LtCdr to Staff Cdr is Ok. Major could be just next step. Ash, on the other hand is "off the damn charts" - because she jumped 3 officers' ranks in 6 months. Nah.
Plus you, of all people, should know price of such "premature promotion" - it devaules whole meaning of rank and casts doubt on all officer's system. So should she remain OC or be promoted to 2nd Lt, I'd respect her greater.
Yeah, I spared her of ending horrors.
Modifié par Ushanka, 04 mai 2012 - 03:13 .
ADLegend21 wrote...
You're right. Vega would treat her to a nice dinner and a blasto movie. Then Sexytimes!CptData wrote...
No sexy!timez between Vega and Ash, ExorioN. He's not that cheap to make Ash drunk for sex. ^^
CptData wrote...
Somehow I get jealous when thinking of non-Shepard Ashley!love
Ushanka wrote...
CptData wrote...
Somehow I get jealous when thinking of non-Shepard Ashley!love
I just can't see Ashley with anyone else, only with Sheploo. (=
And not when thinking of Shepley love?CptData wrote...
ADLegend21 wrote...
You're right. Vega would treat her to a nice dinner and a blasto movie. Then Sexytimes!CptData wrote...
No sexy!timez between Vega and Ash, ExorioN. He's not that cheap to make Ash drunk for sex. ^^
Somehow I get jealous when thinking of non-Shepard Ashley!love
I should say that this is pretty good option. (=iHorizons wrote...
Maybe because that's the only option she has
Ushanka wrote...
I should say that this is pretty good option. (=iHorizons wrote...
Maybe because that's the only option she has
But I think that there was something between Kaiden and Ash, but then was Virmire...
Well, Ashley and Kaiden looking good together too, in my opinion.iHorizons wrote...
I doubt it
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