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[Ushanka]

I like French. It's second language in Morocco. (my father from there) And I adore how it sounds. (:
But yeah, there is no sence to study another languages with translators.
And Rudy, you know that Russian language wery useful in military? Commands are short and understandable... when they using abusive language. XD

[Aurora313]

If Ashley took up a second language, which do you guys think she'll learn?

My money's on Latin, Gaelic or Spanish.

[Arban M]

@Aurora313
I hope Swedish

[Ushanka]

Turian! I'd like that. (=

[Rudy Lis]

Ushanka wrote...

I like French. It's second language in Morocco. (my father from there) And I adore how it sounds. (:

Sorry if I offended you, but I still don't "get" it. I mean, I like Charles Aznavour and Joe Dassin, and one of my ex adored that language and even tried to teach me, but I guess it's one of those things someone tagged as tertiary when this unit has been created.

Ushanka wrote...

But yeah, there is no sence to study another languages with translators.

There is sense - to be able to speak with person you love, for example, without translators, just on your own. Isn't it a worthy effort?

Ushanka wrote...

And Rudy, you know that Russian language wery useful in military? Commands are short and understandable... when they using abusive language. XD

Profanities could be useful only if they are shorter than "official" language and only if person you speak with have "thought coherency" with you, so basically he can understand you "without words" or at least interpret what you telling him correctly. Otherwise "Vasya, fuk that kunt half-dick higher that oak on the right" could be interpret wrong way and valuable munition and time wasted.

Modifié par Rudy Lis, 14 mai 2012 - 11:02 .

[DWH1982]

dahellraider wrote...

 I always find that scene weird, how shepard is fully clothed just looking at her naked.

Ashley: (wakes up) Wha... Shepard?
Shepard: Good morning.
Ashley: What the hell? Were you sitting there watching me sleep?
Shepard: Yeah...
Ashley: Fully dressed and everything?
Shepard: Well... Yeah.
Ashley: For how long?
Shepard: I don't know... Few hours now.
Ashley: And how often do you do this?
Shepdard: Uh... Every other day or so. I guess.
Ashley: Shepard... That's just. It's really creepy.

**

The above is definately not part of my head canon. I just thought it would be funny.

This is a happier image for "a morning with Ash."

[Ushanka]

@Rudy.

Well, maybe it's the matter of taste. (:

Hmm... That's reasonable.

I can give you one example. There was an experiment, in times of WW2. Scientists wanted to know, what language is better for fast commands. Fastest language is English. German is very long for commands. Russian language very long too, but when they starting to use abusive words..
For example:
1. How it sounds correct.
"412, запрашиваю артиллерийский удар по танку с левого фланга."
2. How it sounds in battle.
"412, е**и по этому слева!"
And everybody understand everything. (:

[CptData]

Well, without going too much into that military language stuff, but German can be really short as well:

"Spread out" - "Verteilen" (scatter)
"Fire at will" - "Feuer frei!"
"Covering fire!" - "Deckungsfeuer!"
etc

I think no command is much longer than three, four words. Off the battlefield, German military slang is a hell more complicated, but guess that's the case for every "bureaucratese" ...

----------------- back to Ashley ...

Garrus: ... and then I said "I'm Garrus Vakarian and this is my favorite spot on the Citadel." - we laughed. Good times.
Ashley: Yeah, good times, Garrus. Do you think he's waiting for us? Somewhere there?
Garrus: He's waiting at the bar for all of us. You know ... something like that.
Ashley: Or he's watching for us, as our guardian angel. Garrus - may I tell you some private stuff?
Garrus: You're my best friend, Ashley ...
Ashley: Well ... sometimes I wake up in the middle of the night and can hear his voice. Nearly can feel his presence in my cabin, it's as if he's still with me. And then I wish he would come in through the door, tell me he's back ...
Garrus: Like the last time he died, right? When he came back from the dead.
Ashley: Hmm ... I know it's not going to happen. Still I wish he would come back. And rescue us from this world.
Joker: Commander? Incoming message - seems our emergency call finally got heard!
Ashley: Pass it to my datapad, Joker.
Joker: Aye, aye.
Ashley: *reads* ... that's impossible ... *reads again*
Garrus: What does it say?
Ashley: It's from Skipper.

Modifié par CptData, 14 mai 2012 - 11:41 .

[Ushanka]

^^
Immortal Shepard is back!

[survivor_686]

CptData wrote...

Well, without going too much into that military language stuff, but German can be really short as well:

"Spread out" - "Verteilen" (scatter)
"Fire at will" - "Feuer frei!"
"Covering fire!" - "Deckungsfeuer!"
etc

I think no command is much longer than three, four words. Off the battlefield, German military slang is a hell more complicated, but guess that's the case for every "bureaucratese" ...

----------------- back to Ashley ...

Garrus: ... and then I said "I'm Garrus Vakarian and this is my favorite spot on the Citadel." - we laughed. Good times.
Ashley: Yeah, good times, Garrus. Do you think he's waiting for us? Somewhere there?
Garrus: He's waiting at the bar for all of us. You know ... something like that.
Ashley: Or he's watching for us, as our guardian angel. Garrus - may I tell you some private stuff?
Garrus: You're my best friend, Ashley ...
Ashley: Well ... sometimes I wake up in the middle of the night and can hear his voice. Nearly can feel his presence in my cabin, it's as if he's still with me. And then I wish he would come in through the door, tell me he's back ...
Garrus: Like the last time he died, right? When he came back from the dead.
Ashley: Hmm ... I know it's not going to happen. Still I wish he would come back. And rescue us from this world.
Joker: Commander? Incoming message - seems our emergency call finally got heard!
Ashley: Pass it to my datapad, Joker.
Joker: Aye, aye.
Ashley: *reads* ... that's impossible ... *reads again*
Garrus: What does it say?
Ashley: It's from Skipper.

At this point Shepard has survived deep space exposure, a Thresher Maw attack, numerous biotic blasts to the face, metal slugs and half-robot zombies...I'd think he could handle a little atmospheric reentry.

PS: In the ME universe its most likely that Ashley learned a little Batarian in order to operate in the Terminus systems. Still no word on what she did between ME1 and ME2 (at this point am going with Made Nightwing's fiction).

[Aurora313]

I wish we actually got an explanation about what happened in those two years. Would have been nice to know what she did to merit such a high promotion. Hell, Shepard's confused about that one himself (and completely jealous)
My Headcanon places Shepard as an officer when he left bootcamp/N7 training. And Ash was an NCO. In terms of ranks, she's actually advanced more ranks than him.

[Ushanka]

She searched information about the Reapers in those 2 years.

[Rudy Lis]

Ushanka wrote...

Well, maybe it's the matter of taste. (:

I don't think it's matter of taste, it's something else. Not sure what.

Ushanka wrote...

Hmm... That's reasonable.

I can give you one example. There was an experiment, in times of WW2. Scientists wanted to know, what language is better for fast commands. Fastest language is English. German is very long for commands. Russian language very long too, but when they starting to use abusive words..
For example:
1. How it sounds correct.
"412, запрашиваю артиллерийский удар по танку с левого фланга."
2. How it sounds in battle.
"412, е**и по этому слева!"
And everybody understand everything. (:

Hmm. first, numerical are very long: "four hundred twelve", for example. Even if you cut it to "four twelve".
"412, е**и по этому слева!" could be ambivalent, if there more than one tank on the left flank. So this could work only with great unit cohesion and only if artillery commander actually was on positions of unit requesting help and imagine where the hell that left flank is or have direct LoS. In case of indirect fire support, especially if maps are not match each other, it became quite... Different - you cannot pinpoint your location or location of target using coordinate grids, since they are different, so you have to find something you both have as point of reference and then work together to fond some junction points. Or coordinate fire using words like "30 up, 50 left" (where is "up", and 30 what?). Especially interesting when you given map of wrong area, for example you have area north of town, your mortar support - south. It's like having no map at all.

CptData wrote...

I think no command is much longer than three, four words.

Don't forget syllables. 2-3, 4 - is already long. If you can, better use gesture, instead of long word. Well, unless that baseball gestures, parodied in Hot Shots.

CptData wrote...

Off the battlefield, German military slang is a hell more complicated, but guess that's the case for every "bureaucratese" ...

You German likes complications: why use five details if you can use fifty? Why make it simple if you can make it complicated?

And good story, CptData, really makes me smiling, but in my head cannon (second one, since first is pretty obvious), Normandy is not marooned somewhere.

Aurora313 wrote...

I wish we actually got an explanation about what happened in those two years. Would have been nice to know what she did to merit such a high promotion. Hell, Shepard's confused about that one himself (and completely jealous)

Jealous?
Well, I don't know proper word in English, so I agree with your "confused" instead - jump from OpChief to LtCdr in 6 months makes less sense than ME3 ending.

Aurora313 wrote...

My Headcanon places Shepard as an officer when he left bootcamp/N7 training. And Ash was an NCO. In terms of ranks, she's actually advanced more ranks than him.

Wait, officer after bootcamp? Bootcamp is where young recruits/conscripts sent, you don't get officer out of it. Even during times of war, I think we need to ask Ushanka how much time Soviet "kadets" spent in their "schools" during WWII.
If Shepard went to academy after first term of service or during it, or joined it as soon as his age allowed (that's my "main"), then he should be comissioned at around 22-23. N7 could occur some time later, if he had somebody watching over him (yeah, I know, Anderson), here it is usual practice, but it takes couple of years. Even if he was that uber-extra-ordinary, well, maybe he got his N# courses annually.

Modifié par Rudy Lis, 14 mai 2012 - 12:41 .

[Made Nightwing]

I've just started writing a new Jacob centric fanfic that will feature Ashley leading Task Force 272 against Cerberus and the Batarian Special Intervention Unit. The Muse is favouring me.

[Aurora313]

Glad to hear it, Nightwing. You've been missed here.

[Ushanka]

Rudy, don't know, I just saw this information somewhere. I just wanted to notice laughableness of this situation. (:

[Rudy Lis]

Ushanka wrote...

Rudy, don't know, I just saw this information somewhere. I just wanted to notice laughableness of this situation. (:

I get that and welcome it, given situation with ME3 itself.

[Made Nightwing]

Aurora313 wrote...

Glad to hear it, Nightwing. You've been missed here.

After the ending I felt more like picking fights on troll threads. Immature, yes, but it made me feel better. Then the Officer Selection Board knocked me back because of 'my young age outweighing my aptitude' and 'an overcautious nature', so my creativity was a little beaten up. Hope to update semi-regularly.

[survivor_686]

Made Nightwing wrote...

I've just started writing a new Jacob centric fanfic that will feature Ashley leading Task Force 272 against Cerberus and the Batarian Special Intervention Unit. The Muse is favouring me.

With barely concealed excitement. Yay.

PS: is it continuing the "Tears of the Sun"arc?

Modifié par survivor_686, 14 mai 2012 - 12:53 .

[Made Nightwing]

survivor_686 wrote...

Made Nightwing wrote...

I've just started writing a new Jacob centric fanfic that will feature Ashley leading Task Force 272 against Cerberus and the Batarian Special Intervention Unit. The Muse is favouring me.

With barely concealed excitement. Yay.

PS: is it continuing the "Tears of the Sun"arc?

Currently its following a slightly different canon where Shepard is female and romancing Jacob, but since my Tears of the Sun storyline seems to be so popular, I'm considering editing.

Is the TOS arc so loved?

[CptData]

Aurora313 wrote...

Glad to hear it, Nightwing. You've been missed here.

This and a lot of other faces. Sometimes I think keeping Ashley's thread alive is like "fighting the good fight". It's taking its tolls but someone has to keep it alive. Ash deserves it.


EDI: Hello Ashley.
Ashley: EDI! You ... scared me. Sorry. I still can't get used to see your new body. It nearly killed me.
EDI: Then I should apologize.
Ashley: No, it's okay. You didn't try to kill me. It was just this body.
EDI: Understood. May I ask you a question?
Ashley: Sure - what is it?
EDI: You and Shepard are engaged in more than one way. You have romantic and sexual encounters every night since you joined the Normandy's crew. And sometimes those "malfunctions" of the elevator are not related with a real malfunction.
Ashley: Uhh ... yeah .. ? *looks aside*
EDI: Why do you "do it" everywhere? I asked Shepard and he looked really confused, so ...
Ashley: Wait, what?
EDI: My question is: why do you have sex if not for procreation?
Ashley: I'm not really in this talk, right? EDI ... that's complicated. We do it ... because it's fun. Good fun.
EDI: I see. So if I want to have fun with Jeff, I need to have sex with him.
Ashley: It's not just that ... EDI. Shepard and I - we enjoy it. It's one of the reasons why I moved in his cabin and why I love him so much. Sex - at least for us - is a way to show this love.
EDI. Jeff claims to love me. So we need to have sex. Thank you, Ashley.

... later that night ...

EDI: *intercom* Ashley, I'm now about trying out physical forms of love. I crushed Jeff's pelvis ...
Ashley: I created a monster ...
Shepard: Poor Joker.

[Aurora313]

Made Nightwing wrote...

Aurora313 wrote...

Glad to hear it, Nightwing. You've been missed here.

After the ending I felt more like picking fights on troll threads. Immature, yes, but it made me feel better. Then the Officer Selection Board knocked me back because of 'my young age outweighing my aptitude' and 'an overcautious nature', so my creativity was a little beaten up. Hope to update semi-regularly.

Don't worry. Mine suffered too. But, I'm getting back into the grove. Gonna try a Renagon Shepley romance this time. Never tried that before.

[Aurora313]

@Data.

That's just hilarious.... I shouldn't be laughing, but its still hilarious.

[survivor_686]

Made Nightwing wrote...

survivor_686 wrote...

Made Nightwing wrote...

I've just started writing a new Jacob centric fanfic that will feature Ashley leading Task Force 272 against Cerberus and the Batarian Special Intervention Unit. The Muse is favouring me.

With barely concealed excitement. Yay.

PS: is it continuing the "Tears of the Sun"arc?

Currently its following a slightly different canon where Shepard is female and romancing Jacob, but since my Tears of the Sun storyline seems to be so popular, I'm considering editing.

Is the TOS arc so loved?

See the number of reviews and views it got.

For me its my headcanon (with a few edits...my shepard is spacer and hero)

[Made Nightwing]

Well...thanks. I'll hit the edit page tomorrow.