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[DWH1982]

Heck, in my canon ME1 playthrough, Ash helped Shepard and Garrus fight on Illos and then the Citadel during the invasion by Saren and the Geth.

That alone should be worth a medal. Or two. And some serious respect.

EDIT: Top Ash!

Modifié par DWH1982, 22 mai 2012 - 09:49 .

[Dannycni]

Well I put this on the last page but saying as this is a new page might as well put it here

[DWH1982]

Ash needs her boomstick in that picture.

[Dannycni]

Yea, Ash is never fully complete without it. I remember on one of the mission where you face a few banshees I brought Ash and I ran out of ammo in all my other guns which left me with only my submachine gun which was crap. The banshee was getting closer to me and I had it's health down but then my sub machine gun ran out aswell. I thought I was screwed as I'd died twice before at this part. But then right infront of me the banshee went down and to the top right of the screen I saw Ash had fired at it with her 'boomstick' I was very very grateful for bringing her then, it was like something out of a movie.

[DWH1982]

She keeps using that Revenant of hers to save my life in my current playthrough.

On the Geth dreadnought, there were a number of times where I was nearly overrun by cloaked geth. Each time, I was about to die, then she'd come out and take the frigging thing down like it was nothing.

[Dannycni]

I remember second time I played through ME1 I brought Ash on every mission I could. Changed between the others for secondary squadmate but up until Virmire I usually had Kaidan and Ashley, great team we were.

Being on here though I have realised how much dialogue of hers i've missed, well I know it's not alot but I didn't bring her on some missions you guys say she has some good lines. I'll need to correct that next time, so she can save my ass again

[DWH1982]

Well, we're in the evening "slow period" with the Ash thread.

Maybe some Ash will pick things up:



Lots of talk about Indoc Theory on the BSN right now, because Chris Priestly posted a poll on an other site (Hold the Line) asking people what they thought about it.

My own concern, as I've stated before, is seeing Ash and Shepard together in the end. My fear is that indoctrination as an ending wouldn't allow for that any better than the current endings. The outcome of indoctrination has never, as far as I know, been "happy."

If Bioware really wanted to troll us, they'd give us an Indoc ending, but have it end with someone on your squad - or worse, your LI - being forced to shoot you because the "Reapers have you now."

Modifié par DWH1982, 23 mai 2012 - 01:01 .

[Aurora313]

If indoc theory pans out, I want it to go one of two ways.

You lose to it, shoot your Squadmates on earth - and the LI(ash) if they're among them. But with an interrupt (Paragon) you manage to turn the gun on yourself. A renegade option is to fire defiantly at a horde of Reaper forces but eventually get overcome. Reapers win, Cycle contiunes. And because of Shepard's defiant to the end attitude, they decide to maintain and preserve his human form as a servant for the rest of the Cycles - while he's fully aware and conscious of everything happening. So the Cycle contiunes, and Shepard has to suffer a fate worse than death.

You win, your Squadmates find you and try to get you help but you order them to carry on to the portal. They drag you along as well. You reach the control room for the Crucible. One last ditch attempt to indoctrinate you happens, but a Renegade/Paragon interrupt lets you destroy the Reapers once and for all, but without the relay's or synthetics destruction because that was part of the illusion. Shepard wins, Reapers die, he gets his happily ever after with Ash. Maybe the epilogue is a hospital scene. He's stuck in bed reading something, Ashley pays him a visit and her stomach is notably rounder. Then they start talking about their future together, cracking a few jokes about marriage, the job and so on.  --- Or possibly, Shepard reaches out and touch her belly, and we see a band on his finger...

Dunno. Something sappy and fitting of a Paragon/gade Shepard.

Modifié par Aurora313, 23 mai 2012 - 01:16 .

[DWH1982]

Pretty much anything that lets Ash and Shepard be together would be fine. I mean, the current ending, the plot holes and such upset me. But if Ash and Shepard could be together, I could just ignore them or mentally edit them out.

Someone brought up the idea of alternate ending DLCs. The idea being, after the EC, they might put together one or two "alternate ending DLCs" that give us different endings (posisbly Indoc theory included), the only difference being that we'd have to pay for them.

Hate to say it - but I'd probably buy one if it included the option for a Shepard/LI reunion. It means I'm an idiot, I know, because I shouldn't have to pay for an ending that feels better suited to Mass Effect. But I probably would, and it'd probably make me more or less okay with the franchise again. Not perfectly happy, but okay.

[BP93]

Aurora313 wrote...

If indoc theory pans out, I want it to go one of two ways.

You lose to it, shoot your Squadmates on earth - and the LI(ash) if they're among them. But with an interrupt (Paragon) you manage to turn the gun on yourself. A renegade option is to fire defiantly at a horde of Reaper forces but eventually get overcome. Reapers win, Cycle contiunes. And because of Shepard's defiant to the end attitude, they decide to maintain and preserve his human form as a servant for the rest of the Cycles - while he's fully aware and conscious of everything happening. So the Cycle contiunes, and Shepard has to suffer a fate worse than death.

You win, your Squadmates find you and try to get you help but you order them to carry on to the portal. They drag you along as well. You reach the control room for the Crucible. One last ditch attempt to indoctrinate you happens, but a Renegade/Paragon interrupt lets you destroy the Reapers once and for all, but without the relay's or synthetics destruction because that was part of the illusion. Shepard wins, Reapers die, he gets his happily ever after with Ash. Maybe the epilogue is a hospital scene. He's stuck in bed reading something, Ashley pays him a visit and her stomach is notably rounder. Then they start talking about their future together, cracking a few jokes about marriage, the job and so on.  --- Or possibly, Shepard reaches out and touch her belly, and we see a band on his finger...

Dunno. Something sappy and fitting of a Paragon/gade Shepard.

A result of the romance scene before the Cerberus station assault?

[Aurora313]

Yup.

They're pretty much thinking their going to die at the end. I don't think birth control, or even the possibility of her getting pregnant even occured/mattered to them at the point during the Cerberus raid. So, in a way, it does kind of work.

Modifié par Aurora313, 23 mai 2012 - 01:46 .

[BP93]

Aurora313 wrote...

Yup.

They're pretty much thinking their going to die at the end. I don't think birth control, or even the possibility of her getting pregnant even occured/mattered to them at the point during the Cerberus raid. So, in a way, it does kind of work.

That's what I was thinking.

[Aurora313]

BP93 wrote...

Aurora313 wrote...

Yup.

They're pretty much thinking their going to die at the end. I don't think birth control, or even the possibility of her getting pregnant even occured/mattered to them at the point during the Cerberus raid. So, in a way, it does kind of work.

That's what I was thinking.

And when they do figure out 'Oh crap, she's pregnant.' Both of them would be pretty much over the moon because Yay, they can now have a family, but still be a little hesistant because of the crapsack state the galaxy is left in. Also, Parent!Shepley is pretty goddamned cute.

[DWH1982]

Yeah, I dunno, I doubt Ash would be that sloppy, even in the type of situation they're looking at before the Cerberus assault. Which is why, to be honest, I really dislike tossing a pregnancy in. Plus, some players might not consider their Shepards to be "father" material.

Also, one would think that most Alliance med bays would at least keep a stock of birth control pills, and that Ash would make use of them.

[BP93]

Aurora313 wrote...

BP93 wrote...

Aurora313 wrote...

Yup.

They're pretty much thinking their going to die at the end. I don't think birth control, or even the possibility of her getting pregnant even occured/mattered to them at the point during the Cerberus raid. So, in a way, it does kind of work.

That's what I was thinking.

And when they do figure out 'Oh crap, she's pregnant.' Both of them would be pretty much over the moon because Yay, they can now have a family, but still be a little hesistant because of the crapsack state the galaxy is left in. Also, Parent!Shepley is pretty goddamned cute.

lol I'd love to see Ash's "reaction" when it turns blue so to speak.

[Aurora313]

DWH1982 wrote...

Yeah, I dunno, I doubt Ash would be that sloppy, even in the type of situation they're looking at before the Cerberus assault. Which is why, to be honest, I really dislike tossing a pregnancy in. Plus, some players might not consider their Shepards to be "father" material.

Also, one would think that most Alliance med bays would at least keep a stock of birth control pills, and that Ash would make use of them.

Spoil sport.

[DWH1982]

Aurora313 wrote...


Spoil sport.

Yeah, yeah, yeah...

Look: Ash and Edwin Shepard will have kids eventually. Possibly quite a few. I just think Ash deserves at least a few extra years to build her career, and that, honestly, even after that they deserve at least a year or two (or three) to themselves, considering all they've been through.

Aging isn't the same it used to be with ME's medical advancements, so I'd imagine that healthy child bearing years run quite later, as well. So they have plenty of time.

[survivor_686]

DWH1982 wrote...

Heck, in my canon ME1 playthrough, Ash helped Shepard and Garrus fight on Illos and then the Citadel during the invasion by Saren and the Geth.

That alone should be worth a medal. Or two. And some serious respect.

Actually in my headcanon, Shepard put aside his feelings and kept Ashley on the Normandy (it was pretty clear that she had some guilt over Kaiden's death). He brought Wrex and Garrus with him for the final run and fight.

Meanwhile Ashley escorted Pressley as he met up with the fifth fleet. Then during the Alliance's counterattack on the citadel she took part in the heaviest urban fighting, thus earning her admittance into the tough S program.

But thats the fun thing about the Mass Effect series aint it? Everyone can create their own headcanon and it still pretty much valid....until Starbrat shows up.

Modifié par survivor_686, 23 mai 2012 - 02:42 .

[survivor_686]

Crap dipped back into my ending rage. Quickly Ash, save me!

[Aurora313]

survivor_686 wrote...

Lieutenant Commander Ashley 'Ash' Williams, Watchin' your six since 2183. And lookin' damn fine while doing it.

[DWH1982]

I don't know what she's looking at in that picture, but she looks like she's kinda p*ssed at it.

I don't think I would want to be that thing. Especially while she's holding that gun.

[Aurora313]

So long as it's not Shepard, I'm cool.

[DWH1982]

Is Liara along on that mission?

If so, I hope she's not forgetting to respect Shepard's personal space again.

Ash: (to herself) I swear, if that asari throws herself at Shepard one more time, she's getting a burst from my Avenger. She has shields, right? It's not like a few shots will kill her. They'll just send a "message."

Modifié par DWH1982, 23 mai 2012 - 02:57 .

[Instance]

In my head Liara and Ash are friends, only because Shepard is very close to Liara (for a variety of reasons). Ashley is suspicious of alot of the female crew, simply because everyone ussually hits on Shepard (not out of paranoid obsesion). Liara used to get the brunt of it but now it falls on Miranda and any "table dancing" Shepard fangirls. Tali never got any suspicion because she is with Garrus and Jack is .... well Jack.

Modifié par Instance, 23 mai 2012 - 04:43 .

[Rudy Lis]

Ushanka wrote...

What are you talking about? Ash was on the first place in voting "most beautiful woman of ME3" in one of the biggest russian fan site of Mass Effect. And she is one of 3 most popular female characters. (:

Da wot?! ME3? Oh, no... ME1, ME2 - yes, hands down, no question, but ME3?

DWH1982 wrote...

"she killed Wrex,"

I haven't seen that myself, not even on youtube, so I can't judge her here, but I can make two points:
- If Wrex really did something threatening (something more threatening than holding gun on Shepard?), then her actions are justified.
- If not - then not.
But really, from what I've been able to gather, that scene is full of dumb - should I came talk to Wrex, I wouldn't rise my gun on him, since I came to talk.
Paranoid wise, speaking of backup, well, there is camp full of salarians, and if I didn't trust Wrex (I wouldn't took him on board in this case, actually), I'd place Ashley and Garrus somewhere around in nice vantage points to give them normal directories of fire. Not sure for personal barrier from Kaidan, but possible.

DWH1982 wrote...

"she yelled at me on Horizon,"

For obvious reasons I wasn't able to see that personally, but those videos on youtube state otherwise. No yelling. Some accusation, yes, but nothing more. Sort of "you youself spoiled best years of my life!"
Oh, despicable me.

DWH1982 wrote...

"she nagged me about Cerberus when we were on Mars,"

That really annoys me - I still haven't played full "Ash" game, only most mission and few cutscenes from saves provided by friend, but I have impression that Ash chew your ear a bit more. Could be her live personality, compared with somewhat reserved Kaidan, but still.

DWH1982 wrote...

Basically all crap complaints that amount to someone not putting time and effort into considering Ash's point of view, or someone being p*ssed that Ash isn't yet another character that just follows Shepard aorund blindly and accepts everything he has to say.

"You're in the Army or what? So shut yer [censored] [skipped] [beep] up and follow given orders, you [skipped] [beep] [beep] [censored] pyle of [beep]!"

DWH1982 wrote...

I should also note, I've seen people on here moaning about how they "hate" Miranda now because she wouldn't come with them during ME3.

Well, that point I actually like - family first. Would I prefer to assist her in her endeavours? Yes, I guess everyone would prefer more "free" world than that monorail we have.

DWH1982 wrote...

Kaidan doesn't seem to be any more well liked than Ash, because he's "whiney" or something. Even though the stuff he supposedly "whines" about you have to drag out of him, because he's actually put his past behind him.

Pretty much.
To be honest, I don't get all "whiney" part - I fail to see how all his words are whining. But that probably just me.

survivor_686 wrote...

I think the fact that the word "racism" came during her lines is what threw everyone off balance. Remove that line and almost everyone comes to understand Ashley a bit more. (the irony is that Ashley seems to be quite friendly with Tali)

She is no racist, she is "humanist" - humans first, not humans only.

survivor_686 wrote...

At the end of the day Ashley is suspicious of the Council. ME3 nearly proves her right.

Not nearly - proves. Ironically enough, after all her words on politicians and Udina, she still follows him and doubt Shepard. And all that, after seeing Shepard with Anderson and dialogue between them.

Plot holes, art or speculations?