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[Rudy Lis]

DWH1982 wrote...

Yeah, I know... Just trying to remind everyone that different Shepards have different world views.

In my case, diplomacy - which I actually view as seperate from politics, anyway - is a good way for him to go because paragon Shepard has displayed a real talent for it. Someone who can end a centuries old war by giving a speech really should continue putting that talent to use.

Diplomacy will always be tied with politics, if not in Galaxy-scale, then in system-scale, if not system - then planetary and so on.

Plus, actually, diplomacy is a talent to keep everyone dissatisfied. Paragon, eh?

CptData wrote...

"Too old", ExorioN? *g*
Ash is 27. I'm 30. Perfect match ^^(

Don't forget years - you may not have proper match if year of Rabbit don't mix with year of Dragon.

Not that I believe in this ****, but heard enough of it.

DWH1982 wrote...

I think the way to handle ME2 wouln't have been to have Shepard realize he was working for Cerberus (which makes no sense at all for a paragon Shep, btw).

It makes sense. Even for your stereotype paladin paragon.

Youth4Ever wrote...

Interesting. I would re-write ME2 like this:

Outside final mission of ME2 I'm more or less fine with it on large scale. But for ME3 I really preferred to have pro-Cerberus path. I like guys with plan and they are the only one.

[PwrdOff]

Someone should write a wedding scene. I always pictured Ash packing a couple of Paladins under her dress just in case.

[iHorizons]

I actually prefer Ashley's hair in ME3, the bun is great and all but I don't see the big deal

[Gangsta914]

@iHorizons I agree. I like both of her hair styles. I don't care which one she has to be honest, I'm more upset with the way her character is usually treated.

[CptData]

Youth4Ever wrote...

Couldn't help myself, Data. I had that worked out a while ago. Just copy and pasted from Word Pad. Project Phoenix is still #1.

So, does anyone have any speculations on how Ash made Lieutenant-Commander in such a short amount of time?

Yes. I'll send you via PM. Also an idea how I would rewrite the entire series ... *g*

PM to Youth4Ever:

Just a theory:

-> Ash was Operations Chief on Horizon. It was considered as a "secret mission" and I'm sure Anderson or Hackett requested her presence.

-> Ash was most likely in officer school at that time and that mission was a "special" assignment. Also I believe Hackett and/or Anderson helped her to get a spot on said school.

-> The ranks between OC and LC are:
-- 2nd Lieutenant
-- 1st Lieutenant
-- Staff Lieutenant

-> It's very likely Ashley took extra classes to get a CO commission.
I don't know more or less than anyone else regarding the regulations in the Alliance military, but I'm sure the lower officer ranks are no CO ranks while the LC is the first of the CO ranks. In that case, Ashley never "jumped" those lower ranks by normal means - she simply got promoted to that rank after finishing all needed classes.
I think today armies do something similar.

At least in Germany we do have "lower" Captain ranks - like "Korvettenkapitän" -> Lieutenant Commander, "Fregattenkapitän" -> Commander, "Kapitän zur See" -> Captain

The "Lieutenant Commander" is the lowest staff officer rank AND is indeed used as CO of Corvette class ships. In NATO code an officer with this rank is also called "Commander (Junior Grade)".

-> In short: I believe Ashley took classes to become a full blown CO.

Your thoughts?

Discuss =)

Modifié par CptData, 25 mai 2012 - 08:37 .

[Aurora313]

I really wish Ash would give a motivational speech in ME3. Or just a pep-talk to Shepard after Thessia or inbetween the Cerberus raid and Earth. Maybe Shepard's still not convinced that he's the real one or even really human, then Ash says what amounts to 'You're human to me.' then they'd spend the next few minutes in silence, holding each other and staring out until the Mass Relay for the final jump to Earth comes into view. Just a nice scene like that.
Or similar to what someone on the forum wrote (forgive me, I've forgotten their name) where Shepard's just sitting in his cabin after Thessia and Ash visits him and asks him to let everything out. Thessia is as much as a low to Shepard as everyone else, actually more so because he's never lost a battle that horribly before.

[CptData]

Well, give it a shoot, Aurora. Or is it my turn?

Any thoughts about "how Ash got promoted to LC that quickly?)

[Aurora313]

My reasoning? Ashley recieved nurmerous battlefield promotions. After OCS, she reached the rank of Lieutenant. Her first deployment as an officer went horribly wrong, the XO was lost and since Ash's jacket had more qualifications than any other soldier under their command, in addition to working with one of the best N7s of the generation and saving the Citadel, the CO gave Ash the battlefield rank of Lieuie Commander.

Or something like that. I don't know, but I am definately set on it being a battlefield promo.

[Aurora313]

CptData wrote...

Well, give it a shoot, Aurora. Or is it my turn?

Any thoughts about "how Ash got promoted to LC that quickly?)

I'm trying to get my multiplayer characters up. Got the Adept and Sentinal to go before they're all twenty. Then Mass-promote them.

Aka. I'm a little busy.  Would love to see what you come up with though.

Modifié par Aurora313, 25 mai 2012 - 08:41 .

[Rudy Lis]

CptData wrote...

Any thoughts about "how Ash got promoted to LC that quickly?)

Easy.
Vega and Adams - "some" lieutenants (not specified), Vega is "missions worthy", so could be reffered as one on missions.
Joker is "flight" lieutenant (and I doubt "lieutenant" used here in another meaning, not military rank), but there is no such rank in Codex. Also, there are no Ensigns in Codex, yet Grissom Academy is full of them (plus at least one died on SR1 at the beginning of ME2 - that one yelled "Pressley!")).
Kaidan should be Staff Commander, but he is Major. 
Giving Ash any lieutenant's rank may be confisuing for new gamers. Formally she at same rank as Shepard, but while he is "Commander", Ashley is always "lieutenant-commander". Always.

That's my opinion why we have what we have. There is no logic behind their decision to promote her 4 ranks up in 6 months.

[CptData]

Rudy Lis wrote...

CptData wrote...

Any thoughts about "how Ash got promoted to LC that quickly?)

Easy.
Vega and Adams - "some" lieutenants (not specified), Vega is "missions worthy", so could be reffered as one on missions.
Joker is "flight" lieutenant (and I doubt "lieutenant" used here in another meaning, not military rank), but there is no such rank in Codex. Also, there are no Ensigns in Codex, yet Grissom Academy is full of them (plus at least one died on SR1 at the beginning of ME2 - that one yelled "Pressley!")).
Kaidan should be Staff Commander, but he is Major. 
Giving Ash any lieutenant's rank may be confisuing for new gamers. Formally she at same rank as Shepard, but while he is "Commander", Ashley is always "lieutenant-commander". Always.

That's my opinion why we have what we have. There is no logic behind their decision to promote her 4 ranks up in 6 months.

Okay - let's say the Codex has no complete rank structure OR the rank structure got revised at some point between ME1 and ME3, we might need to "reconstruct" the new rank structure ...


ENLISTED

• Serviceman 3rd class/Private 2nd class
• Serviceman 2nd class/Private 1st class
• Serviceman 1st class/Corporal

NCOs

• Service Chief
• Gunnery Chief Ashley Williams in ME1
• Operations Chief Ashley Williams in ME2

OFFICERS

• Ensign
• 2nd Lieutenant
• 1st Lieutenant Flight Lieutenant ?
• Staff Lieutenant Kaidan Alenko in ME1
• Lieutenant Commander Ashley Williams in ME3, Shepard in ME1, ME2 and ME3
• Staff Commander
• Captain/Major Kaidan Alenko in ME3
• Rear Admiral/General
• Admiral
• Fleet Admiral

RED ranks are "new" ranks.

It's kinda odd Kaidan jumped that many ranks.
Sure, Ash does it too, but I tried to explain why: she used those two years for officer school and got promoted after finishing it. Since she took extra classes for CO commission, Ash got promoted to the lowest CO rank (Lt. Cmdr.)

However, there are no "extra classes" beyond that point. Any other promotion can only be obtained by duty. And a jump from an NCO rank to a CO rank with officer school + CO classes is more likely than a jump from a Staff Lieutenant to the highest CO rank (before the Admiral ranks).

EDIT: Seriously, I -HATE- that BSN screws up formatting always!

Modifié par CptData, 25 mai 2012 - 09:02 .

[Rudy Lis]

CptData wrote...

Okay - let's say the Codex has no complete rank structure OR the rank structure got revised at some point between ME1 and ME3, we might need to "reconstruct" the new rank structure ...

Let's work with what we have, otherwise we could use "temporarly" rank, and Ash, tops, could be 1st Lt with that - so she permanent 2nd Lt, yet tempo - 1st.

CptData wrote...

It's kinda odd Kaidan jumped that many ranks.

Odd? Strange to hear it from you.

Explanation is simple - his year of comission is odd (ungerade, according to my German dictionary) and his rise and rank was planned on 83, but events in ME1 slowed that or arrived "off screen" - for example after Battle at Citadel, or after Normande SR-1 destruction.

So, his carreer path is next (according to Wikia, Kaidan enlisted in 73, so if he underwent officer's training in academy and then he has been commissioned in 77, his rank-rate could be next:
77-79 - 2nd Lt
79-81 - 1st Lt
81-83 - Staff Lt
83-85 - LtCdr
85+ - Staff Cdr
86 - Major. Or he could be promoted in 85, I don't recall exact date on forming that biotics division under his command.

One extraordinary rank promotion is fine. 1 rank, especially inside group you belong to (and Kaidan is officer). Not 4.

CptData wrote...

Since she took extra classes for CO commission, Ash got promoted to the lowest CO rank (Lt. Cmdr.)

What classes could promote you from chief to LtCdr in 6 months? Even during wartime, Red Army and Wehrmacht spent months to train their NCO to became Officers and there were huge gaps between officer's promotion. That was during WAR, when time is of the essence.
In Mass Effect? No war. There is even no martial law!

Modifié par Rudy Lis, 25 mai 2012 - 09:17 .

[CptData]

Rudy: I tried to explain: Ash was in officer school for full two years. You can call it "Academy" if you want. In Germany, all you need is an "A level" education (Abitur, high school diploma) and officer school to become one. There are extra classes for higher ranks too ...

In short: a promotion from NCO to CO via officer school is possible. Getting promoted to staff officer rank ( Commanding Officer, sorry, I mixed up commissioned officer (CO) and commissioned officer (also CO) ) is possible too.

However, I can't follow your theory about "halted promotions" for Kaidan. I think getting promoted by two ranks within two years is possible - the first promotion happened right after the end of ME1, the second promition (to Staff Commander) could have happened after Horizon. After all, after each promotion there's also a time you have to stay on that rank for a while (a year or two is a normal time span) ...

[iHorizons]

^ Cool Story Bro.

[Hellfire257]

So I was browsing the web yesterday and I stumbled across a link to this opinion piece on the role of women in the infantry of a modern army and it made me think of Ashley's role as a female soldier. Female soldiers appear to be well integrated into the armed forces in the ME universe, arguably in contrast to what we have today, however they are still a vast minority.

It makes me wonder how their integration differs, if at all, from male soldiers. From what I can gather, there are less stringent guidelines for the training of female soldiers today. Would such things exist in the ME universe? Would Ash's training have been any different from a male counterpart? Would she have encountered prejudice?

However, this brings me to my main point. Is Ashley's portrayal as a female soldier accurate/realistic or just the work of a hopeful fantasy? Is there a place for women in the infantry? Read the article and see what you think.

It is a difficult one for me. The author of the article raises some valid points, and as much as I dislike to say it, I feel some of them are correct. Is equality worth compromising the combat effectiveness of a unit? It's a tough question. In order to answer it, I had to put myself in a situation where two soldiers are critically wounded, one female and one superior officer. If I could only save one, I would have a very hard time choosing which to drag out of the fire. I would hesitate, and in warfare that can cost lives. The decision would probably tear me apart as well. It's just the way I've been brought up and values I've been taught to uphold through society and otherwise. If we look at it from the ME perspective, it would be interesting to see how many male players saved Ashley mainly because she's female rather than her being their LI or hating Kaidan.

If anyone is wondering where I found the article, it was linked to on KitUp.

Modifié par Hellfire257, 25 mai 2012 - 09:33 .

[Rudy Lis]

CptData wrote...

I tried to explain: Ash was in officer school for full two years. You can call it "Academy" if you want. In Germany, all you need is an "A level" education (Abitur, high school diploma) and officer school to become one. There are extra classes for higher ranks too ...

In short: a promotion from NCO to CO via officer school is possible. Getting promoted to staff officer rank ( Commanding Officer, sorry, I mixed up commissioned officer (CO) and commissioned officer (also CO) ) is possible too.

I know, I've been offered to attend similar school while I was serving.
All I was saying, that she cannot be LtCdr that fast. You don't release Hauptmanns right after those schools, do you? They Leutnants first and only then, after significant amount of service, they are promoted. 2.5 years in such school and she's already LtCdr? How would you react to such officer, should it not be Ash (to avoid sympathetic feeling "cross-contamination"), but your direct commander. He will be responsible for your life and life of your subordinates.

CptData wrote...

However, I can't follow your theory about "halted promotions" for Kaidan.

Da wot? all I was saying - his promotion was delayed for short time period and occured off-screen. Admit, it will be quite hilarious, during final fight with Saren:
- Hey, Sovereign, wait a sec
- What is it? Stupid organics.
Shepard turns to Alenko:
- Staff Lieutenant, let me officially promote you to the rank of Lieutenant-Commander. Now slap those stars (bars, whatever they wear), and let's kill that techno-zombie!

CptData wrote...

I think getting promoted by two ranks within two years is possible - the first promotion happened right after the end of ME1, the second promition (to Staff Commander) could have happened after Horizon.

Hello? He is already Staff Commander BEFORE Horizon. That's why I think his promotion was scheduled to Battle of Citadel, give or take (probably give) month or two, but for obvious reasons was delayed - what Jacob says to Shepard about time he's been rebuilt - two years and twelve days, most of it on operating table? Not sure are those days includes time Shepard's body was searched for or not.

CptData wrote...

After all, after each promotion there's also a time you have to stay on that rank for a while (a year or two is a normal time span) ...

Riiight. There was nothing extraordinary to promote her 4 ranks up.

[CptData]

Well, we can argue about that, Rudy forever

I like my idea since it makes sense. It does not (!) make sense Ash got five field promotions within two years -or four within half a year! That's only possible if she went to officer school PLUS extra classes for staff officer rank.

I mean, if Ash had done something worth 5 field promotions, then we should know about it, right? We don't know. And the battle of the Citadel netted her only ONE promotion ...

And for Kaidan ... well, you're right, my mistake. Still ... the entire promotion issue for both VS comes with more problems than anything else. It was done to make both more badass than they are already but is not logical. That officer school PLUS staff officer idea works for Ashley ... kinda.

Everything else like 4 or 5 field promotions within 2 years (or 6 months!!!!) is impossible. This is no Star Trek where a Cadett 2nd class can become a Captain ... (Star Trek XI)

[DWH1982]

CptData wrote...

she used those two years for officer school and got promoted after finishing it. Since she took extra classes for CO commission, Ash got promoted to the lowest CO rank (Lt. Cmdr.)

This seems like a plausable explanation to me. It's simple, so it's probably what I'd go with.

On another subject - Aurora said in another thread that there were originally supposed to be scenes in ME3 where Ash discusses moving in to the captain's cabin (if she's being romanced) and where it's hinted that she and Shepard share more than one night together.

Wish they had left those in. Edwin Shepard would have said "yes" before Ash even finished asking if she could move in. Would have been nice to have her show up in the cabin instead of the observation lounge all the time. Though it would have been even better for it to just be her "default" location when she's not moving around the ship.

It also makes me wonder if ME3 wasn't originally planned to have more Priority missions. It honestly feels to me like the priority missions were cut short. I feel like the Rachni should have had their own Priority missions, rather than a side mission, and that there should have been extra priority missions dealing with the turians, salarians, and maybe even one dealing with the Alliance. I also feel like the storyline with Miranda's father should have been stretched over more than one priorty mission.

As it stands, I don't see how there would have been much time for Ash to move in, or for them to spend much time together. In my current playthrough, I'm about at the Citadel date scene. But I just finished the quarian missions. Next up is Thessia, then Horizon, then the Cerberus base assault and Earth. Not a lot of time, there.

CptData wrote...

Everything else like 4 or 5 field promotions within 2 years (or 6 months!!!!) is impossible. This is no Star Trek where a Cadett 2nd class can become a Captain ... (Star Trek XI)

Yeah. I hated that about the newest Star Trek movie.

Modifié par DWH1982, 25 mai 2012 - 10:56 .

[CptData]

DWH: it was me: Cut elements of ME3

And yeah, I want those lines too. Ashley always as flirty towards my Michael Shepard (and Jacob Shepard too) - and spoke her mind freely. She wouldn't have missed the opportunity to move in to Shepard's cabin.

And about the ST movie: let's say, Star Trek ended for me with ST X and Voyager.

[DWH1982]

CptData wrote...

DWH: it was me: Cut elements of ME3

Hah! You're right! Sorry.

Guess I must be getting old. My memory is starting to go.

Modifié par DWH1982, 25 mai 2012 - 11:03 .

[Rudy Lis]

CptData wrote...

Well, we can argue about that, Rudy forever

Some say truth can be found in argument. I say there are brawls and bruises found in argument.
But you haven't answered my question.

CptData wrote...

I like my idea since it makes sense. It does not (!) make sense Ash got five field promotions within two years -or four within half a year! That's only possible if she went to officer school PLUS extra classes for staff officer rank.

And all that in 2.5 years? No matter how much you like it, do you believe it?

CptData wrote...

I mean, if Ash had done something worth 5 field promotions, then we should know about it, right? We don't know. And the battle of the Citadel netted her only ONE promotion ...

And that one promotion was her scheduled promotion. Of course, if not took into consideration my version that all chiefs are exactly the same category of servicemen and their first word describe their position and duty - Gunnery responsible for more combat roles or taking care of armoury, Service can be responsible for general duties or be technician specialist, where officer's expertise is not required, Operations could be more of a Staff personnel, responsible for coordination and assisting officers of Staff.

CptData wrote...

And for Kaidan ... well, you're right, my mistake. Still ... the entire promotion issue for both VS comes with more problems than anything else.

For Kaidan it doesn't, he followed ordinary 1 rank per 2 years path. His Major promotion, like I said, is 1 step above and could be done due his new position as commander of new biotic division, more than that - it could be temporary rank, if his current duty (prior ME3 beginning) required person of Major rank, but, for example, he was the only one close enough.

CptData wrote...

It was done to make both more badass than they are already but is not logical.

It was done to prevent confusion among new gamers - they had to deal with 1 Lt (wave Vega), 2 LtCdr (wave A&S) and 1 Staff Commander. 3 commanders, 2 of them are lieutenant-commanders plus 1 lieutenant (3 with Adams and Joker).

CptData wrote...

That officer school PLUS staff officer idea works for Ashley ... kinda.

What had she done to deserve being sent to staff officer courses and receive LtCdr promotion in 30 months without war around?

CptData wrote...

Everything else like 4 or 5 field promotions within 2 years (or 6 months!!!!) is impossible.

Even with school and field courses or whatever it doesn't work, because of too much ranks and not enough time.
Should she done something extraordinary, like tear of couple of tentacles off Reaper singlehandedly in melee on foot - there are medals and order for that. Rank promotions are different. They reflect person capability to lead, command and take decisions. We all saw how sucessful she at that.

CptData wrote...

This is no Star Trek where a Cadett 2nd class can become a Captain ... (Star Trek XI)

I'm more of Czterej pancerni i pies guy.
Cadet can become a Captain and whole purpose of being cadet is become officer lately. But in 6 months? Nah.

[survivor_686]

Bear in mind the presence of the S1 rank. Given her role and her activities as of late, its possible that just passing the S1 course mandates a brevet promotion until the end of the operation.

[Rudy Lis]

There is no brevet in Codex.

S1 is not rank, it is not clear what is that at all, because James on his armour has O2, Alliance special unit O7, Rn O3 and O2 again.

Vocation code? Sorry, my code is 6 digit, I don't see how 26 letter of English alphabet were enough to describe every possible occupation.

[CptData]

@ Rudy: Sure - the main purpose of a Cadet IS to become an officer one day.

Well. Depending on the military, a cadet can get promoted to Ensign (lowest rank) or one of the Lieutenant ranks (if there are more than one) when finishing officer school. At least that's the case in our days for most (if not all) armies.

In Star Trek XI it does not make sense Kirk got promoted after 3 (of 4) years as a cadet to a Captain. Neither did he finish his education nor had he enough time to gather experience as commanding officer. Still he got that promotion ...
Given the fact Starfleet ranks are identically to US Navy ranks, there is no way Kirk could get that promotion. Especially not for the fleet's flagship.
Even in the canon universe Kirk was a Captain before turning 35. In ST XI, he gets that promotion when he's mid 20. Could you trust a 25y old boy commanding a powerful warship?
How would you react if Picard had decided to promote Wesley Crusher to his First Officer?

Let's find a trade off for Ashley:

We don't know how promotions work in 22nd century and in the Alliance military. My first guess is the officer school for Ashley. I'll ignore Kaidan for now.
If there's no officer school, then Ash might have been promoted to LC when she joined the S-ranks. However, even in that case she should have visited some kind of school ...

Modifié par CptData, 25 mai 2012 - 11:39 .

[Rudy Lis]

CptData wrote...

In Star Trek XI it does not make sense Kirk got promoted after 3 (of 4) years as a cadet to a Captain. Neither did he finish his education nor had he enough time to gather experience as commanding officer. Still he got that promotion ...

I don't know nothing of Star Trek - his "Captain" was his rank or that was his "position"? Because my former classmate, when he ended his Naval school was at Lieutenant rank, but he was Captain of small patrol vessel.

CptData wrote...

We don't know how promotions work in 22nd century and in the Alliance military.

All I know - they don't makes sense at all. Because there is no even pace between ranks for all officers we know. If we took Hackett and Anderson into consideration and 1 rank per 2 years pace, we'll got this:
Hackett:
2156 - 2158 2nd Lieutenant
2158 - 2160 1st Lieutenant
2160 - 2162 Staff Lieutenant
2162 - 2164 Lieutenant Commander
2164 - 2166 Staff Commander
2166 - 2168 Captain/Major
2168 - 2170 Rear Admiral/General
2170 - 2172 Admiral
2172 - 2174 Fleet Admiral

Anderson (one of most decorated (decorated! Not promoted!)):
2159-2161 2nd Lieutenant
2161-2163 1st Lieutenant
2163-2165 Staff Lieutenant
2165-2167 Lieutenant Commander
2167-2169 Staff Commander
2169-2183 Captain
Full stop. In case his "Captain" is rank, not just post, but nobody calls Shepard "Captain", outside of Quarians.
Ashley being held by brass? Aha. With pike poles.

If he was enlisted first, served some time (barely - N7 program description suggests they took officers and only in US police everyone is "officer" (exaggeration, I know), but at FCW Anderson already was N7 participant, no?), then studied in academy for 4 years, then you can adjust that table above for 6 years. Still, Anderson will spent in Captains' rank 8 years, since 75. Who's held by brass again?

Let's took IRL numbers into consideration:
2nd Lt to 1st Lt - 3 years (that's permanent ranks)
1st Lt to Cpt - 4 years.
Cpt to Maj - 7 years
No data on Permanent LtCol rank.
Maj to Col - 6 years
Col to Brig Gen - 2 years
Brig Gen to MajGen - 3 years
MajGen to LtGen - 3 years
LtGen to Gen - 1 year
Then 8 years of service as General (no higher rank in Peace-time).


If use that IRL ladder for Hackett:

2156 - 2159 2nd Lieutenant
2159 - 2163 1st Lieutenant
2163 - 2170 Staff Lieutenant
2170 - 2176 Lieutenant Commander
2170 - 2176 Staff Commander [No mistake, like I said, in that IRL example from above I have no data on permanent LtCol rank]
2176 - 2178 Captain/Major
2178 - 2181 Rear Admiral/General
2181 - 2184 Admiral
Oops, time is out.

Anderson:
2159-2162 2nd Lieutenant
2162-2166 1st Lieutenant
2166-2173 Staff Lieutenant
2173-2179 Lieutenant Commander
2173-2179 Staff Commander
2179-2181 [actually 83] Captain
2186 - Admiral (apparently Rear, but that never stated, unless he still was formally on service while being Councilor (in my games).

As you see, it will be hard to squeeze Shepard and especially Ashley into this ladder.
Should Shepard be commissioned in 76, then he should be 1st Lt in 79, Staff Lt in 83 and LtCdr in 90. He-he.
Alenko a bit better here: he returned to service in 73 and, since he was 22 y.o. then, that means he could have college degree, so his commision could came sooner, thus making that line more believable and logical, at least in ME1, since he had a long-long way till LtCdr.  

Should I add my calculations on General Williams?
If he was born in 2112, then in FCW he was 45, if he was "fresh" general.
Let's see:

23 y.o. Normal age for Academy graduate.
2135 - 2138 2nd Lieutenant
2138 - 2142 1st Lieutenant (2138 when his son - Ash's dad apparently born)
2142 - 2149 Staff Lieutenant
2149 - 2155 Lieutenant Commander
2149 - 2155 Staff Commander
2155 - 2157 Major
2157 General

Could be re-adjusted a couple of years into each direction.

CptData wrote...

My first guess is the officer school for Ashley. I'll ignore Kaidan for now.
If there's no officer school, then Ash might have been promoted to LC when she joined the S-ranks. However, even in that case she should have visited some kind of school ...

We don't know what S1 is and since it is 1 - this means this is lowest possible proficiency. Given how high N is valued, I doubt S is something really significant. That could be, I don't know, sniper school.
And please, tell me, how that (even if it's not sniper) can promote you from NCO to highest junior officer (if we consider LtCdr as one, though that could be lowest senior)?

Modifié par Rudy Lis, 25 mai 2012 - 12:21 .