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Lt. Commander Ashley Williams thread: "Don't 'Ash' me!" We're Back Baby!


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Dannycni

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There is definately more that could be exlpored or challanged after the Reapers which makes me think there is the possibility of a future game (way down the line), but I know that's not gonna happen cause BW have been pretty consistent in saying ME3 is the end of the Shepard story. But I have always thought there was more after the reapers would need to be done and simply with them being 'gone' so to speak, wouldn't mean the galaxy lives happily ever after.

So I had an idea what I'd love to see in a future game (again though I know this isn't gonna happen it's just what I'd like to see happen) Alot of gaps and lack of info but thats cause I don't know what sort of enemies or situations would occur. Plus it'd be a short game, more a EC but in game form
Start of next game, Shepard lying in the rubble, finally found and rushed to hospital
-Scene showing your crew stranded on planet, not knowing whats going on
-Shepard finally recovers
-Crew becoming more desperate, maybe one or two minor characters pass away and they all fear the worst, Ash (or whatever LI) looks at a photo of Shepard wondering what happened and if he can save them
-Shepard given important mission by Alliance or council but insists he has to find his crew first, told that this mission is more important and ordered to go because they don't even know if his crew are alive
-Shepard does number of missions but alliance also uncover some information about the Normandy
-Rest of game consists of Shepard trying to help people in different areas of the galaxy while also collecting information to try and find out where his crew and LI are
-Finally a weak distress signal is discovered, believed to be from Normandy
-Shepard leaves to try and find his crew and the Normandy
-Lands on the planet, discovers there is something else living on it and has to fight his way to his crew worryig they have all been killed
-Finds crew running low on supplies and ammo but holding off whatever the threat is
-Ashley and Shepard re-unite, hug, kiss etc. Rest of crew celebrate with them
-They have to fight their way back to Shepards ship as Normandy is too badly damaged
-Conversations with all the surviving crew about what happened on Earth, what they plan to do now etc etc
-Shepard and Ash have big final 'romance' scene after declaring their never-ending love for one another
-All crew and representitives from the galaxy attend a massive ceremony for all the dead
-Brief scene showing a glimpse into the future, Shepard and Ashleys wedding maybe, Liara working as the Shadow Broker, Garrus and Tali working together in some way

Probably alot of people more than happy to leave the series as it is especially with how some people have fallen out with BW after ME3 but I think there is far too much to go into that EC can't explain and something like this is only way to get it all sorted.

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Next story could be the precursors to the Reapers? Whom look *shock, horror* almost identical to modern humans, expect with a few minor/major differences. Biotics/telepathy, physically stronger, Larger and technologically advanced and live for thousands of years, not just a hundred.

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#32628
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@Aurora, yea to be honest I'd like to see the story from the books play out into games, maybe not the 4th book though.

I thought having Anderson and Sanders as the main characters could be pretty cool

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No. I mean the First Race. The literally precursors to the Reapers, the ones whole built them.

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Oh ok, well I'd still like to see the Anderson career, wasn't that the First Contact war? You may at some point come across a young, naive, Shepard which could be cool.

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Modifié par Dannycni, 28 mai 2012 - 02:58 .


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Nah, they already have books on that.

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Aurora313 wrote...

No. I mean the First Race. The literally precursors to the Reapers, the ones whole built them.


I'd like the chance to question them on their faulty logic.

Better yet, I'd like someone to establish that Star Brat was just full of crap, and that their real reasons were something different.

My head canon universe still ties the original dark matter plot into things.

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^That's gonna be a short game lol

What about a game focusing on Ashley? I know that will NEVER happen cause too many people don't like her so would never dream of playing as her but she has alot of storylines to be explored. Maybe a game where you play a level as each main character either before meeting Shepard or between ME2 and 3, play as Garrus, Liara, Ashley, Grunt or Wrex, Tali, Legion, Vega

Modifié par Dannycni, 28 mai 2012 - 03:03 .


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I think such a game would be more of a straightforward shooter rather than an RPG.

If you made it an RPG, you'd have to give the player choice over the characters responses - which could make them say things that are out of character for Ashley, or Garrus, or Wrex.

Then agian, ME3 had tons of auto-dialouge. So maybe they could do it as an RPG.

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I'm thinking that the Original Reapers were meant to be like the Geth, but gone hideously wrong. I actually had a theory I was playing with before I completely rejected the endings when doing the synthesis option. The original precursors were bioorganic organisims like what synthesis does to the galaxy, along with their original pet Reapers. When the reapers began to rebel, the Crucible was activated the first time, seperating the synthetic from the organic and life as we know it starts up. The original Reapers' capabilites are severely disminished, and start havesting organic life to merge with and obtain that power again.


Or that's what I remember at least. When indoc theory came about, I kicked it out the door in favour of Shepard waking up bloodied and bruised in Ash's arms after the Crucible activates and says that he'd like 'to go home now'.

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I think dead Reapers can't indoctrinate, well, if Crussible will destroy them.
And if will be founded any indoctrinated on any planet, then will be called Exterminatus!

And women on that pic looking good, but not similar to Ash. :)

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Yea I think it would have to become more first-or maybe third person shooter like Max Payne 3, rather than RPG.

But I have heard BW say that even though Shepards story is over, there is likely to be further games set withing the ME universe so I wonder what they'll choose and can they please everyone.

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I dont think they'll do anything after the Crucible detonation. Unless Indoctrination theory pans out and the Relay and synthetics destruction was just a hoax by the Reapers. Really, if Bioware rejects that one saving grace, I'll be f*ckin' pissed.

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Synthesis was the ending I picked when I finished the game (probably for the only time) simply because I was confused as hell, afraid I had limited time to choose, and because it was right in front of me. Also, it seemed like the option the game "wanted" me to pick.

I absoluately hated it.

I can explain why for two reasons:

A) I've always despised that type of "ascention/change the very meaning of all intelligent life" ending. I guess it's okay for other people, but it just kills my suspention of disbelief. There are a few strategy games like Alpha Centauri and Galactic Civilizations that have that type of ending, and I never go for it. I always go for the diplomacy victory.

B) I feel like Shepard doesn't have the right to force that decision on an entire galaxy. DNA plays at least some role in who we are - and under synthesis, he's changing the DNA of every living creature in the galaxy.

The worst part of that ending was seeing Ash after she came out of the Normandy. Not because she was stranded (though that was part of it) but because she was changed. I don't think Ash would like synthesis. And I don't think she'd like having it forced on her.

I've seen the ending scenes for destroy, and much prefer them. Destroying the Reapers is what I've been trying to do since game one. If I ever wanted to be bothered with the official endings agian, I'd go with destroy.

Modifié par DWH1982, 28 mai 2012 - 03:21 .


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I would rather have indoctrination theory. But I doubt bioware will just fess up and say 'We made a mistake, and we'll make your fanon theory canon because we ran out of time and made a monumental pile of BS in place of a real ending."

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I heard somewhere information, if Shepard will pick synthesis, than his soul will be destroyed... Well, not sure about that, but synthesis is creepy for me. First time when I played I picked destroy, don't know why, I had no idea what's going on. :)

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Wish bioware would just grow a pair and say 'We made a mistake, our game was incomplete. We should have kept it back a few months instead of sending it off'.

Doesn't help that the script was leaked either. But then again, that'd cause an even bigger Sh*t storm. I still have it on my PC.

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Aurora313 wrote...

I would rather have indoctrination theory. But I doubt bioware will just fess up and say 'We made a mistake, and we'll make your fanon theory canon because we ran out of time and made a monumental pile of BS in place of a real ending."


This.

Not sure if indoc theory plays a role in my head canon Shepard's ending or not. But I do know he wakes up in Ash's arms, that that he really can't remember what happens after the standoff with TIM ends. He can't even remember how he got back to Earth.

So, indoc theory would fit more or less perfectly with what I've already established as happening with Edwin Shepard. And it would be a hell of a lot better than the canon endings.

As long as it allows Shepard to survive and be with Ash, I'm fine with it.

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#32644
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I don't care what space magic they use to explain things agree with DWH and just want Ash and Shepard together!

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I really think Bioware under estimated the attachment players formed with their Shepard avatar and his/her LI over the course of three games. All the head canon and fan stories should have been their first hint, but they did under estimate things.

A story where the main character has no option but to die at the end is fine for me if I play that character for one game, and if I don't have as much control over shaping who that character is. But for Shepard... no. It doesn't work. Even setting aside the fact that the endings to ME3 were so wildly out of character with the triumphant endings we got in ME1 and ME2.

I was expecting a range of endings, maybe even that the "Shepard lives and limps off into the sunset with Ash" ending would only be acheived if you put a lot of hard work and effort into it, and do everything just right. I can't describe how I felt when I realized that they were forcing Shepard to leave Ash. Again. Posted Image

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DWH1982 wrote...

Synthesis was the ending I picked when I finished the game (probably for the only time) simply because I was confused as hell, afraid I had limited time to choose, and because it was right in front of me. Also, it seemed like the option the game "wanted" me to pick.

I absoluately hated it.

I can explain why for two reasons:

A) I've always despised that type of "ascention/change the very meaning of all intelligent life" ending. I guess it's okay for other people, but it just kills my suspention of disbelief. There are a few strategy games like Alpha Centauri and Galactic Civilizations that have that type of ending, and I never go for it. I always go for the diplomacy victory.

B) I feel like Shepard doesn't have the right to force that decision on an entire galaxy. DNA plays at least some role in who we are - and under synthesis, he's changing the DNA of every living creature in the galaxy.

The worst part of that ending was seeing Ash after she came out of the Normandy. Not because she was stranded (though that was part of it) but because she was changed. I don't think Ash would like synthesis. And I don't think she'd like having it forced on her.

I've seen the ending scenes for destroy, and much prefer them. Destroying the Reapers is what I've been trying to do since game one. If I ever wanted to be bothered with the official endings agian, I'd go with destroy.


i have also choose the Synthesis ending at first because i though that it seems to be the best choice. creating a new type of lifefom which is half synthetic and half organic will make everyone the same. synthetic and organic will not fight against each other since they are same being 

then i came across the IT, the destroy ending now seems to be a better option as comapared to the other two option. however, i still hate the fact that shepard is still seperated from Ash no matter which option you choose. personally, rather than waiting for the EC, i would use whatever material that is avaliable to headcanon my own ending             

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#32647
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Dannycni wrote...

I don't care what space magic they use to explain things agree with DWH and just want Ash and Shepard together!

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 Set @ 2188

Shepard: ... *Deep, tired exhale.*
Ashley: Skipper?
Shepard: I don't believe these people.
Ashley: I know...
Shepard: We spend the last three years of our lives trying to save these sorry bastards, and the first thing they want to do it start an anachist movement to topple what's left of the governments?
Ashley: I know. Ungrateful little sh!ts. The lot of them. But I don't think they'll be expecting 'The Last Guardian' to be negotiating with them.
Shepard: I am not going to live that down, am I?
Ashley: Not for a thousand years, I don't think.
Shepard: I didn't want the damn title, and I certainly don't like it. Please don't joke about it.
Ashley: Sorry Skipper. We'll get this done, and go home. And if they're stupid enough to pull a gun on us? Well - we'll just have to deal with that too.
Shepard: Let's just get this over with and go home. I trust 'Uncle Joker' with alot of things. A two-year-old is decidedly not among them.
Ashley: Neither do I...

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Aurora313 wrote...

Dannycni wrote...

I don't care what space magic they use to explain things agree with DWH and just want Ash and Shepard together!

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 Set @ 2188

Shepard: ... *Deep, tired exhale.*
Ashley: Skipper?
Shepard: I don't believe these people.
Ashley: I know...
Shepard: We spend the last three years of our lives trying to save these sorry bastards, and the first thing they want to do it start an anachist movement to topple what's left of the governments?
Ashley: I know. Ungrateful little sh!ts. The lot of them. But I don't think they'll be expecting 'The Last Guardian' to be negotiating with them.
Shepard: I am not going to live that down, am I?
Ashley: Not for a thousand years, I don't think.
Shepard: I didn't want the damn title, and I certainly don't like it. Please don't joke about it.
Ashley: Sorry Skipper. We'll get this done, and go home. And if they're stupid enough to pull a gun on us? Well - we'll just have to deal with that too.
Shepard: Let's just get this over with and go home. I trust 'Uncle Joker' with alot of things. A two-year-old is decidedly not among them.
Ashley: Neither do I...


First order of business would be to shoot Balak.

#32649
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@Aurora: I like that. I could see Edwin Shepard totally getting frustrated with the state of the galaxy by that point, and saying that, even though he's usually a lot more patient when it comes to people.

It's actually kind of sad - in my head canon, he spent all that time buidling those alliances, but they mostly fracture after the Reaper war .I think things will get better in the long run, but in the short term, there's a lot of crap.

#32650
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Mine just wants to hide on some tropical world and raise his kids.