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[MegaBadExample]

I don't think he rubbed one out, he clearly walked away. But wait! What if he was just going to get some tissues?

Spectulations!

[N7Mozza]

@mega

Of course it can be a mistake. I view it as something that that I regret my character doing. Sorry if there is a better word for it, I'm not the vocabulary genius. But as a game u can have a do over! Just wish I didn't need to. :'-(

[Ushanka]

Erm... I even don't have idea about it.

So, I heard that you can't conceive in space, so... No kids for Shepard if it's not Liara and her mind thing on Earth.

[Aurora313]

When my Shepard's stressed he starts tinkering with his models. Either painting them (he doesn't get the chance often), or beating up a punching bag. In lieu of those, getting hammered is a good idea too.

[MegaBadExample]

There's gravity in ME ships so it's more than possible.

@TheRealMotz; It's still uncaring. If I cheated on Ashley in ME2 I wouldn't get back with her in 3 because I cheated for a reason. And that reason was more important than Ashley or her feelings. But you're the player, and you don't see it that way. Shepard's who cheat on Ash get quite a hard enough time in ME3 anyway. So we're good lol.

[Cossack72]

Speculations and artistic integrity be damned; together forever:



I did my first playthrough with Ash, haven't gone back to that file because I can't stand to do the ending again knowing she ends up on Gilligan's Inbreed Island

[N7Mozza]

@ mega

Ya I understand where ur coming from and respect that but not all people arelike that. They would have had it different if they thought that Ash was a character that would throw away what Shepard and Ash had because of a weakness or whatever.

Modifié par TheRealMotz85, 03 juin 2012 - 09:50 .

[iHorizons]

@Cossack72

We all hate Planet Inbreed

[MegaBadExample]

Gilligan's island isn't a good place to be. But why do y'all think Ash will start popping out babies?Come on, that's like the last thing on her mind. She'll take up Command. Everyone else on the ship will do the breeding, and Tali and Garrus will die... Joker will probably die without his meds, too.

Okay, yeah? It still sucks.

Modifié par MegaBadExample, 03 juin 2012 - 10:03 .

[BP93]

MegaBadExample wrote...

iHorizons wrote...

LoneStarJedi wrote...

I'll never understand why anyone would cheat on Ashley. Sure, I know those other women are tempting...

But that's what additional playthroughs are for!

My friend left Ashley for Cortez lol

Damn. I wish she had an awkward conversation with Shepard about that! 

Ashley: So... you like dudes? Were you always like that...? 
 

I picture the one Ash scene from gamer poop:"What. The. Hell?"

I've never even gotten up to that point with Cortez mainly because I choose renegade options from the start. Stop your whining. I find his character to be incredibly cliched and annoying. Yeah, whiny gay dude who is weak emotionally and wants comfort. We get it.

I think my Shepard's motto is the last line from Denis Leary's song.

"I'm an A-Hole and I'm proud of it."

[DWH1982]

I think if they were going to put a same sex male romance in, they should have gone with Vega - but otherwise kept his current personality. It would have been less of a cliche, and frankly, I think it would have been more of a compelling romance.

The other problem I have with Cortez is how unneccisary his character feels. In ME2, the shuttles were flown by VI - but now we need a pilot? It just feels like he was forced in there, sometimes. I think he's a nice guy, and Edwin Shepard is always a friend for him, but I'm just not sure why he's there.

On another subject, I keep meaning to do a dialouge for this picture, but I never get around to it:

[Cossack72]

Could always try to explain it away by saying Cerberus likes VIs and the Alliance likes good old fashioned human pilots assisted by VI's or something.

Modifié par Cossack72, 03 juin 2012 - 01:30 .

[survivor_686]

MegaBadExample wrote...

I don't think he rubbed one out, he clearly walked away. But wait! What if he was just going to get some tissues?

Spectulations!

His hands assumed direct control

[DWH1982]

Cossack72 wrote...

Could always try to explain it away by saying Cerberus likes VIs and the Alliance likes good old fashioned human pilots assisted by VI's or something.

Of course, there's a reason that might be the case - ME2 kind of hinted that Cerberus was a fairly small organization because it recruited only the best. They probably wouldn't have wanted to waste someone with flight training on a shuttle.

The only thing that really bothers me about Cerberus in ME3 (I always did think they were evil, so I don't care about that part of ME3) is how large they seem to have become. I get that they've lowered their standards and they're implanting people and using indoctrination, but it doesn't seem like they should have been able to grow that quickly in such a short amount of time.

survivor_686 wrote...

His hands assumed direct control

Ash: I think it's sweet you kept that picture of me.

Shepard: Yeah. I made good use of it. At least once every day.

Ash: Aaannd... Romantic moment destroyed.

Modifié par DWH1982, 03 juin 2012 - 01:50 .

[Ushanka]

Why renegade lines with Cortez not so "renegadish"?

[survivor_686]

Cossack72 wrote...

Could always try to explain it away by saying Cerberus likes VIs and the Alliance likes good old fashioned human pilots assisted by VI's or something.

Actually the crew shuttles were flown by a cerberus crew member. Given the similar voice, I'd have to say it was Hawthorne

. Between missions he hangs around, complaining about Gardener's food. There s only one time, when he actually speak during gameplay and his name shows up in the subtitles. I believe it during " N7: Wreckked Merchant Freighter", where he warns you about incoming sandstorms. 

[BP93]

"You thought you could cheat on me, huh?"

[Made Nightwing]

DWH1982 wrote...

I think if they were going to put a same sex male romance in, they should have gone with Vega - but otherwise kept his current personality. It would have been less of a cliche, and frankly, I think it would have been more of a compelling romance.

The other problem I have with Cortez is how unneccisary his character feels. In ME2, the shuttles were flown by VI - but now we need a pilot? It just feels like he was forced in there, sometimes. I think he's a nice guy, and Edwin Shepard is always a friend for him, but I'm just not sure why he's there.

On another subject, I keep meaning to do a dialouge for this picture, but I never get around to it:

"You know," Garrus languidly pulled on his own sparring mitts. "Turians train in hand to hand from the time we're big enough to knock over furniture."

"Really?" Ash tightened the straps on her own gloves. "Is that all? I came out of the womb and punched the doctor in the face for daring to touch Mom."

"Humour doesn't change the fact that you're going up against one of the best unarmed combat experts the Hierarchy ever produced." Garrus moved into position, limbering up as he faced off against the Spectre. "Not just breathing into my own trumpet."

Ash didn't bother to correct his mutilation of the human expression. "Yeah, I heard the stories. Ran into one of your old friends a while back. Commander Aelis Piral. Told me a lot of interesting things about you."

Garrus froze for a second. "What did she...?"

Without waiting for him to finish, Ash dashed forward, feinting with her knee, then delivering a powerful left hook to the turian's jaw. Recovering quickly, Garrus crouched under her next strike, then threw a light jab that Ashley easily deflected and countered, placing a stinging punch on the other side of his face. Garrus fell back, sacrificing ground for stance, not willing to measure his grappling skills against the marine...yet.

"She said you're easily distracted." Ash bounced slightly, weaving like a mongoose as she awaited his attack. "Always counting on reach, vulnerable up close. Said great things about your stamina though."

Garrus was ready for her next strike, dropping under her fists and sweeping her legs out from underneath her. Still falling in midair, Ashley contorted herself in an almost impossible shape, rolling away from Garrus as she struck the ground.

Over by the armoury, Vega's mouth dropped open. "How the hell did Athena pull off a move like that?"

"It's a very basic self defence move taught to all asari soldiers." Liara informed him. "It appears the Lieutenant Commander has adopted some forms of asari doctrine into her fighting style."

"She seems so different from the SR-1." Tali recalled wistfully as Ash spat out a mouthful of blood, a punch from Garrus busting open her lip. "Garrus too. Back then they were like angry kids, snapping at the world."

"How much have we all grown?" There was a note of melancholy in Liara's tone as Garrus yelped with surprise, Ashley tackling him to the deck. "I remember when we could hardly be in the same room as each other without some form of competition going on. Kaidan and I with biotics, Wrex and Ashley over shotguns, Garrus and Shepard about throwing knives..."

"Sounds like Loco had a whole bunch of crazy on his hands." Vega's tone was half admiration, half disbelief. "No offence, but why'd he keep you all around?"

"Because I value effectiveness over protocol." Shepard spoke from behind them, Vega jumping to attention as he noticed the Commander. Shepard stepped forward, his eyes narrowing as he examined the fracas. "What exactly is going on here?"

"When it started?" Tali glanced over her shoulder. "A polite debate over the merits of pure turian unarmed combat vs the hybrid human-asari-quarian system that Ashley prefers. Now?"

Garrus and Ashley were now going toe to toe, finesse forgotten as they laid into each other with increasing ferocity. A slugging match, where the victor would be the last one still on their feet.

"A slight argument then." Shepard nodded, then checked his watch. "Well, take them up to Dr. Chakwas when they're done, have her check for concussion."

"Concussion?" Tali looked at Shepard. "They're not hitting each other hard enough that..."

From his sullen silence by the weapons bench, Javik interrupted. "He is referring to the fact that in seven seconds, the sniper will throw a left punch. The marksman will use a quarian maneouvre to evade this punch, but she will fail to notice to the follow up strike, just as the sniper will miss the marksman's haymaker."

"How in hell could either of you see that far..."

The mutual thud of two bodies crashing to the deck caused Vega's head to whip back around.

"...ahead?" He finished lamely.

Unconcerned, Shepard strolled over to where Ashley lay, then easily lifted her up, bridal style. Vega stared after Shepard as he proceeded to the elevator. "He scares me sometimes."

[LoneStarJedi]

Bravo, Made. Bravo.

Modifié par LoneStarJedi, 03 juin 2012 - 03:20 .

[DWH1982]

survivor_686 wrote...

Cossack72 wrote...

Could always try to explain it away by saying Cerberus likes VIs and the Alliance likes good old fashioned human pilots assisted by VI's or something.

Actually the crew shuttles were flown by a cerberus crew member. Given the similar voice, I'd have to say it was Hawthorne

. Between missions he hangs around, complaining about Gardener's food. There s only one time, when he actually speak during gameplay and his name shows up in the subtitles. I believe it during " N7: Wreckked Merchant Freighter", where he warns you about incoming sandstorms. 

Shows up as "Shuttle VI" in the subtitles in my copy of ME2.

Made Nightwing wrote...

*dialouge removed*

Nicely done! 

Modifié par DWH1982, 03 juin 2012 - 03:44 .

[Spitfire017]

DWH1982 wrote...

Of course, there's a reason that might be the case - ME2 kind of hinted that Cerberus was a fairly small organization because it recruited only the best. They probably wouldn't have wanted to waste someone with flight training on a shuttle.

The only thing that really bothers me about Cerberus in ME3 (I always did think they were evil, so I don't care about that part of ME3) is how large they seem to have become. I get that they've lowered their standards and they're implanting people and using indoctrination, but it doesn't seem like they should have been able to grow that quickly in such a short amount of time.
 

I liked the idea of Cerberus being relativelly small but powerful, a shadow organization that worked behind the scenes...not launching assaults on the Citadel or Sur'kesh.

Before ME3 came out, I knew that Cerberus would be an enemy in the beginning, but some of my ideas were that:

1) Cerberus would be working behind the scene in galactic politics during the war, moving to take over the Council or the Alliance. Again following the whole "shadow organization" theme. This would be through assassination and bribery, etc., and it would affect the war effort. They would use smaller special forces strike teams when necessary, but not entire battalions! We see this a little bit with Udian's coup, but they could have done it much better and grittier.
2) You could take Cerberus away from TIM (in similar fashion to LOTSB with Liara), and put Miranda in charge. After that, Cerberus would be recruitable to fight the Reapers.
3) You could be pro-Alliance or pro-Cerberus. (Something similar to the Witcher 2...if you played it, you know what I'm talking about.) 
4) Kai Leng wouldn't be a space ninja.


@Made Nightwing: Nice, would love to see something like that ingame. I
presume you are the same Nightwing from fanfiction.net, I've read some
of your stuff and greatly enjoyed it.

[Joe1962]

LoneStarJedi wrote...

Bravo, Made. Bravo.

Indeed. Very well done.

[Td1984]

iHorizons wrote...

@Ushanka

BW also told us be could a be anti alliance Shepard and we would have 16 endings and our choices would matter.
TROLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

Supposedly (according to one of the peeps I know in the Miranda thread), one of the original plans was to have two different options for the game. One where you could choose the Alliance and one where you could choose Cerberus (they would still have been morally gray like in ME2). Unfortunately, they realized they wouldn't have the time/resources to make the game that complicated, so they scrapped it and made Cerberus really evil. 

As for the 16 endings...

1 & 2. EMS 0-1749: Only Destroy or Control are available (which one depends on CB decision from ME2). Both result in massive collateral damage to galaxy.
3 & 4. EMS 1750-2349:  Both Destroy & Control are available. Either choice will result in substantial damage to galaxy.
5 & 6. EMS 2350-2649: Control option will no longer cause physical damage to galaxy, but Destroy still causes substantial damage to galaxy.
7 & 8. EMS 2650+: Neither Control nor Destroy causes physical harm to galaxy.
9. EMS 2800+: Synthesis becomes available
10. EMS 4000+: Destroy shows Shepard gasp for breath (if you prevent TIM from shooting Anderson a second time- otherwise you need an EMS of 5000+)

Maybe BW counted those as seperate endings? If that's the case, where are the other 6?

For our choices mattering, only a few have any substantial impact. Genophage cure, Quarians/Geth, end choice. There are a few others (which I had typed here before but the text somehow disappeared), but they don't have any huge difference, beyond some War Assets.

[Ushanka]

Well, Cerberus is not "evil", they had right idea. Sadly Illusive Man gets to far. But who knows, maybe Control is right decision, I don't know. I think Destroy is more acceptable for this situation, because it's too risky. Where is guaranty, that Shepard will control Reapers forever? Oh, again about endings...

Well, staying on topic, good work on this dialog.
And good pic too. But there is one thing on this picture, Ash standing not right if she is in sparring. More looks like it pose for photo, but it's not important, picture is good by itself.

[DWH1982]

Td1984 wrote...

Supposedly (according to one of the peeps I know in the Miranda thread), one of the original plans was to have two different options for the game. One where you could choose the Alliance and one where you could choose Cerberus (they would still have been morally gray like in ME2). Unfortunately, they realized they wouldn't have the time/resources to make the game that complicated, so they scrapped it and made Cerberus really evil. 

I wonder how Ash would have factored in to that?

I can't see her agreeing to be on the squad if we're still working for Cerberus.

If anything, I'm afraid the writers would have pitted her against Shepard in that scenario - maybe forced him to fight and/or kill her.

Not sure how reliable that info is, though, since it's just from someone on the BSN.

Modifié par DWH1982, 03 juin 2012 - 05:08 .