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[iHorizons]

survivor_686 wrote...

iHorizons wrote...

That was great Aurora, especially because it ended without Space Magic

Ah yes Space Magic. An alleged device that makes the endings understandable and relevant to the universe. We have dismissed that claim

Thats because we prefer our fans to speculate so we can maintain our artistic vision without compromising our artistic integrity 

[Johnny_TYS38]

is bioware going to reveal anything about extended cut on e3

[Aurora313]

'In other words, we screwed up and are trying to hide that fact accept admitting it and causing an ever bigger sh!tstorm.'

[iHorizons]

Johnny_TYS38 wrote...

is bioware going to reveal anything about extended cut on e3

Its up for speculation

[survivor_686]

iHorizons wrote...

Johnny_TYS38 wrote...

is bioware going to reveal anything about extended cut on e3

Its up for speculation

Dont think so

[Gably]

survivor_686 wrote...


Ash: Oh God...it was weird and twisted.

Shepard: I could tell...what was that about "settling for another Alliance Marine" ....

@BWHI1982 
"The Williams women make a decision when they're ready for it - not before, not AFTER." - That's the line I remember from ME1. (Not sure if it's exactly the same, but should be really damn close, I think. 

Ash: Its a dream skipper, it doesn't have to make sense. Go back to sleep

Modifié par Gably, 04 juin 2012 - 03:53 .

[JedTed]

Youth4Ever wrote...

survivor_686 wrote...

If its symbolism, it out of place in the series. Mass Effect has always had subtle symbolism. Waking up due to Lazarus project, recruiting Archangel, going to the Afterlife bar, assembling twelve new recruits. Saving the Destiny Ascenion (see what they did there?). Fighting/ working for Cerberus (a dog which guards the gates of hell). Becoming a Spectre? These are all attempts at suble symbolism.

Dumping survivors on an unknown planet is not subtle symbolism. Its the literary equivalent of smashing a hammer on a delicately arranged crystal piece, in order to symbolize a new project. Its heavy handed, clumsy and out of place in the situation.

Perhaps it a testament to the writers of the series that even a screwed up ending hasn't caused me to dump Mass Effect series and declare the whole thing a waste.

I wished the writing team had taken greater advantage of the symbolism throughout the series. I don't like that I couldn't explore the title Project Lazarus with Miranda, or go in more depth about Archangel. I felt Aria should've had a much bigger role in influencing Shepard and, I think you said you were against it, but I appreciate the Dark Matter/Human Ascenion storyline.

I like to dig deeper, I don't always like subtle, and IMO, most of ME's symbolism is almost too subtle. It's never explored, expanded, or put in context. It doesn't amalgamate into a more clearly reinforced theme like I'd prefer. They feel more like loose ends than careful subtly.

I liked that one line in Shepard's cabin where Ash says "screw the science" when talking about his resurection.  Seeing as the entire galaxy is at war and it's a war we may not win i'm suprised we don't see any preachers on the Citadel.  Someone to offer consoling words for people who have lost loved ones, or pray for those who are still out fighting the Reapers.

[Aurora313]

... Think I scrwed up Ashley's romance. Are you supposed to have her lunch date availible before hitting the Geth dreadnaught?

[iHorizons]

@Aurora

It doesn't matter

[MegaBadExample]

I'm willing to speculate this matter.

[zapphoman24]

Aurora313 wrote...

... Think I scrwed up Ashley's romance. Are you supposed to have her lunch date availible before hitting the Geth dreadnaught?

nah I think it's before the final Rannoch mission.

[Aurora313]

Oh thank god. I'd hate to think the battlefield flirting was all for naught. (They don't really, but let me live the dream.)

Modifié par Aurora313, 04 juin 2012 - 05:59 .

[MegaBadExample]

They did a lot in ME1, probably more than they should.

Ah, ME1... how I miss thee.

[iHorizons]

MegaBadExample wrote...

I'm willing to speculate this matter.

LOTS OF SPECULATIONS FROM EVERYONE!!!!

[iHorizons]

survivor_686 wrote...

iHorizons wrote...

Johnny_TYS38 wrote...

is bioware going to reveal anything about extended cut on e3

Its up for speculation

Dont think so

Allow me to speculate on why you don't think there can be speculations on the EC

[Aurora313]

*facedesk.*

[Johnny_TYS38]

iHorizons wrote...

survivor_686 wrote...

iHorizons wrote...

Johnny_TYS38 wrote...

is bioware going to reveal anything about extended cut on e3

Its up for speculation

Dont think so

Allow me to speculate on why you don't think there can be speculations on the EC

ok i will go back and speculate more about the EC. in the mean time, also need 
to know more about space magic   
 
 

Modifié par Johnny_TYS38, 04 juin 2012 - 07:19 .

[iHorizons]

The ME3 ending is the source of all space magic, or is it? I shall speculate

[Aurora313]

Ashley: Hey Skipper. I've got a new drinking game.
Shepard: Oh yeah? Hit me with it.
Ashley: Every time someone on my fan forum says the word 'Speculation' or any other variation, we take a shot.
Shepard: Just your fan forum?
Ashley: Well if we included the entire website, we'd completely blasted in the space of five seconds.
Shepard: Yeah. I doubt even my liver could handle that. And its literally made of titanium. Not sure how yours would cope.
Ashley: Probably death by alcohol poisoning, or at the very least, I'll need a stomach pump.
Shepard: Maybe we should call off the game for a little while then. I don't want you in the hospital. 'Specially after you just got out.
Ashley: Tsk. I just wanted an excuse to get hammered.
Shepard: And the Reapers aren't enough of one?
Ashley: ... a better excuse.
Shepard: Then endings?
Ashley: What did you think I meant about the 'Speculations' thing?
Shepard: Right. But my question for you is: why bother getting drunk at all? Isn't there someone else you'd rather be doing?
Ashley: That wasn't subtle in the least, Skipper.
Shepard: Wasn't trying to be subtle about it.
Ashley: I would, but I'm too lazy to stand up at the moment.
Shepard: Nothing stopping me from carrying you in some kind of grand romantic gesture.
Ashley: Ooo, Tempting.
Shepard: So am I allowed to sweep my Lady off her feet?
Ashley: Now it's just cheesy, and romantic.
Shepard: And hear I Thought you liked the cheesy lines I come up with.
Ashley: Never said I was complaining Skipper.

Modifié par Aurora313, 04 juin 2012 - 07:43 .

[CptData]

MegaBadExample wrote...

Ashley is a naked sleeper only if sexy happened.

Does anybody find it amusing that Ash was a riot growing up? She threatens her Dad by saying that she was gonna screw tradition, and run away with the next bloke she finds. Ha, too bad none of those guys would take her lol! Too much woman!

Did I miss anything big? Is Ash's VA recording MORE stuff for ME3? I really don't wanna get my hopes up about this EC...

Let's make a trade off: Ashley usually sleeps with some kind of gown - most likely comfy panties and a shirt.  That''s what she does when not spending the nights with Shepard. However, if the two lovers share the same bed, there's a very high chance both sleep naked, even if they didn't have sex. They simply enjoy to feel each others skin and may snuggle a lot. You know about oxytocin? It got a nickname in Germany: "Kuschelhormon" which can be translated to "snuggling hormone". 
I'm addicted to that one.

I bet Ash & Shepard are addicted to it too. It's simply a wonderful feeling if you get your oxytocin-rush while snuggling with the one you love. There's no sex involved in that moment, just "be together, enjoy the moment". That's why I believe those two lovebirds -do- sleep naked. Entirely.

However, it doesn't make any sense Ash or Shepard sleeping naked if they're not together in the same bed ...


@ DWH: Thanks for the heartbreaker at morning :crying:

@ Aurora: Thanks for fixing that heartbreaker a few mins later :wub:

Modifié par CptData, 04 juin 2012 - 07:53 .

[Aurora313]

I'd say that Shepard sleeps in boxershorts and Ash sleeps using one of Shepard's less form fitting shirts as a nightshirt. Not sure about sleeping in the same bed naked though. Probably would because they're lovers.

Modifié par Aurora313, 04 juin 2012 - 08:13 .

[MegaBadExample]

@Data: Hardly think Shepard and Ashley are addicted to... whatever... that is, considering that they're both soldiers. Most likely they sleep in the some standard Alliance trunks and a tank-top/shirt. Can't see them deciding to just sleep naked without having some sexy.

Modifié par MegaBadExample, 04 juin 2012 - 08:23 .

[CptData]

Aurora313 wrote...

I'd say that Shepard sleeps in boxershorts and Ash sleeps using one of Shepard's less form fitting shirts as a nightshirt. Not sure about sleeping in the same bed naked though. Probably would because they're lovers.

Guess Ash & Shepard wouldn't share the same bed if NOT being lovers

Okay. I'm no "standard" here and I won't set any either. However, I'm no longer "in love" with my fiancee - I love her. Doesn't mean we don't share the same bed or something. And it doesn't mean we're no longer sleeping naked. We do, since it feels good.

And as far as I know, Ashley wants to "feel good enough" with Shepard, right? Hey, I'm just using her words to get the idea what Ash does and what not. In my headcanon, she enjoys spending her nights with Skipper naked, that's all. And actually, I can't see any issues here or anything wrong. They're lovers. They want each other, they share their most intimate moments. Why shouldn't they sleep naked?

Don't have any issues with nakedness. Actually, I enjoy it, whenever it's possible. God thanks we do have nudist beaches here.

MegaBadExample wrote...

@Data: Hardly think Shepard and Ashley are addicted to... whatever... that is, considering that they're both soldiers. I honestly think they sleep in the some standard Alliance trunks and a tank-top/shirt. Can't see them deciding to just sleep naked without having some sexy.

Well, I wonder if "naked snuggling" does not count as "having some sexy"

Heck with it, it's the second best thing to having sex.

You said it by yourself a few dozen pages earlier: most times they'll be too fatiqued to make love - but no one is too fatiqued for snuggling. 

Modifié par CptData, 04 juin 2012 - 08:25 .

[MegaBadExample]

I'm going to say this now, then it'll be off my chest... Data, you are weird as f**k.

Still love you, though.

[CptData]

MegaBadExample wrote...

I'm going to say this now, then it'll be off my chest... Data, you are weird as f**k.

Still love you, though.

Now THAT is weird :lol:


Does it matter for our project if Ash sleeps naked or not? If yes, we definitely need to do a vote. If not ... well, headcanon is my friend