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Lt. Commander Ashley Williams thread: "Don't 'Ash' me!" We're Back Baby!


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survivor_686

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Ushanka wrote...

Ashley's IQ - 140? Is that official information?
Besides that, I don't believe in this test, it's not showing your intellect.


There has been no official information from Bioware concerning Ashley IQ...or anyone else's for that matter. Don't even know if in the Me universe they're still using the IQ tests...

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DWH1982

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This page needs an Ash pic.

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Wish I could think of something to talk about, or even a dialouge to go with this. But I've got nothing.

Modifié par DWH1982, 10 juin 2012 - 11:37 .


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I know! I know!

Wouldn't ME3 be more interesting (with more replay value) if you could role play as a Pro-Alliance, Pro-Cerberus or Renegade Shepard? Whatever path you choose would definitely affect your EMS, the final battle and plot.

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Spitfire017 wrote...

I know! I know!

Wouldn't ME3 be more interesting (with more replay value) if you could role play as a Pro-Alliance, Pro-Cerberus or Renegade Shepard? Whatever path you choose would definitely affect your EMS, the final battle and plot.


Hell to the yes. I wish I could have done that in ME2 as well.

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Shepard is referred to as 'brilliant' by a few people, even if he was an earthborn. Ashley is smart too, its just that in the beginning she led with her heart, not her head. In 3, She's using equal parts of both.

.... I still wish there was a paragon/renegade interrupt when the VS wonders aloud whether or Shepard is being controlled by Cerberus. Shep gives em a big damn kiss, and then snarks "Think a Cerbeus Zombie could kiss like that?". Then the VS looks kind of shocked before chuckling "Nope, definitely not." (or some variation of)

Modifié par Aurora313, 11 juin 2012 - 12:27 .


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Not sure how well Ash would take to being kissed like that on Mars, before she really trusts Shepard again.

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Aurora313 wrote...

Shepard is referred to as 'brilliant' by a few people, even if he was an earthborn. Ashley is smart too, its just that in the beginning she led with her heart, not her head. In 3, She's using equal parts of both.

.... I still wish there was a paragon/renegade interrupt when the VS wonders aloud whether or Shepard is being controlled by Cerberus. Shep gives em a big damn kiss, and then snarks "Think a Cerbeus Zombie could kiss like that?". Then the VS looks kind of shocked before chuckling "Nope, definitely not." (or some variation of)


Hmmm...I don't know. Based on the date scene, yes, a Cerberus zombie would kiss like that. :lol:

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This page need an Ash GIF :wub:

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Thought I'd take advantage of the lull and post the introduction to my fan-fic concerning Ashley's activites during the years between ME1 and ME2. Am currently trying to make the conversations seem just right and am trying to figure out how HALO jump in the ME universe turns out (with Jetpacks!). Please leave comments or recommendations. Also how does the name "Wrath of the Gods" sound for this fan-fic?

All things considered it was a very beautiful ceremony . It had been small, quiet and respectfull. Comprised of mainly Alliance personnel, the non-humans in their crew denied access, there were no more than twenty individuals. A few key officers, Admiral Hackett , Shepard’s mother, Joker (having managed to sober up) and herself. Too bad the body was missing.

Ashley Madeline Williams pondered this paradox as she sat at one of the few clean bars that were left on this station. She quietly nursed a bottle of beer, brewed from some colony at the ass-end of Alliance space. It tasted…inoffensive. She was still clothed in her Alliance dress blues, her beret still perched on her head. To any casual passerby she looked the very model of a formal Alliance soldier on leave.

A closer inspection would have revealed tired eyes, worn out from the constant tears. Her lips would have revealed a slight quivering that hinted to some repressed emotion. Her hands gripped the bottle as if it were her lifeline to sanity.

A large thud caught her attention and a quick glance to her right, revealed the titanic form of Urdnot Wrex who dwarfed his two companions Tali Zorah and Garrus Vakarian.

“Williams.” The massive Krogan rumbled as he took in the sight

“Wrex.” She returned, as she got up from her table at approached the threesome.

Tali silently grasped Ashley’s hands and Garrus attempted an approximation of comforting smile. Together the group moved towards the small docking bay where Shepard’s casket lay.

A quick flash of her ID card, no doubt reinforced by the very large and powerful Krogan, seething Turian and deadly quarian standing behind her allowed the group access to the now empty docking bay.  Admiral Hackett, with some considerable lobbying from Captain Hannah Shepard, had allowed them access to view the casket before it was fired into the burning mass of the nearby star. We’re born in dirt and die in fire. How very fitting…

Silence enveloped the group as they took in the empty casket that was Commander Shepard’s legacy. The legendary N7 commando, the destroyer of the Geth, the saviour of the Citadel and the bane of Saren…and all that was left was an empty casket.  

“Shepard is not in that.” Wrex pronounced, as he gave the casket one heavy thump. The echoes reflected off the walls in the cavernous bay. Ashley was too tired to complain about this offensive breach in funeral etiquette, so she settled for dejected grunt. .

“Keelah, what do we do now?” Tali finally spoke up, wringing her hands nervously. Garrus merely sniffed the air, as if he could divine what cosmic imperative fate had in store for them.

They never spoke again after the casket was fired into the sun. One by one they all went their separate ways. Tali went back to her flotilla, Garrus went back to C-sec and Wrex returned to Tuchanka. A few messages were exchanged between the group, but they never met in person again. Last contact she had was a terse message from Garrus Vakarian stating he was off the Omego to chase down a suspect.

Ashley never felt more alone in her life

Modifié par survivor_686, 11 juin 2012 - 04:14 .


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Grimez7 wrote...

Spitfire017 wrote...

I know! I know!

Wouldn't ME3 be more interesting (with more replay value) if you could role play as a Pro-Alliance, Pro-Cerberus or Renegade Shepard? Whatever path you choose would definitely affect your EMS, the final battle and plot.


Hell to the yes. I wish I could have done that in ME2 as well.


Renegade Shepard is really sucky in ME3. Apart from the ending, I loved ME3, just wish it was longer and had a neutral dialogue wheel option. ME2 just bothers me now with those damn loyalty missions over and over.

EDIT: That was pretty damn good survivor. Are you writing more?

Modifié par MegaBadExample, 11 juin 2012 - 03:54 .


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For Good Morning.

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@Spitfire017
All this IQ test is wrong. Erm... How it explain... Damn, too hard. There is concrete evidences, that this test doesn't. showing power of your brain. :)
Mine is 130, but I still don't believe in this test.

Oh, to keep on topic. Do you think it was hard to kill first time for Shepard, Ashley, Liara (especially) and ect.?

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Thanks for the depressing g'morning, Survivor :\\
Good to read, but depressing ...

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Wrex: ... and then I told him: "for every new born Krogan, the name Shepard means hero!"
Garrus: I hope he's watching us from the bar in heaven. I lost a fellow soldier, a friend that day.
Liara: He sacrificed himself to save billions - and dozens of trillions unborn too. Shepard did more in three years than anyone else in a lifetime.
Ashley: John Shepard ... was more than a friend to me ... he ... loved me and gave me a purpose. He showed me what life truly means ... I wish I could follow you, Skipper ...
Shepard: Mind to follow me to the bar? Someone told those pesky reporters I died. God damnit, I had to go throughh all those procedures just to prove I'm Commander Shepard. They didn't believe me! Took two months ... *frustrated*

O.o

Well, that was totally unasked for ^^

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Slow morning today? I have a problem, I can't seem to keep myself out of VS hate threads. I can't believe some people still don't get it. Soon, it'll get to the point where I just copy and paste, over and over AND over.

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Hopefully after the war most of Shepard's mornings will be like this....

Modifié par MegaBadExample, 11 juin 2012 - 09:19 .


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Well ... it's easier to hate than to forgive or love.

I think a lot of people simply dislike the VS since s/he is the only character that doesn't follow Shepard blindly or doesn't question him. The VS is questioning the Shepard, so to speak. One of many theories (but not the only one) is: people hating the VS have low self-esteem.

Others simply hate the VS since the VS is a "boring human" and no "interesting alien". Funny thing is: if you remove Garrus' Turian appearance and make him human, the same people liking Garrus now would hate him tomorrow since he's a "boring human". All aliens act and feel like humans - they just don't look like such.
(But don't tell that anyone - truth hurts ^^)

Yeah.

Uhhh ... and I hope Shep will always make Ash smiling. Or "feeling good enough" ... hmmm :-)

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You're right, of course. I think it has something to do with that, Data. Most people don't want to forgive, and move on. They want to hate her, because she stomped all over their ego, and won’t follow Shepard blindly like the others. Most squad mates in ME2 had trust issues with you until you made them loyal. For the VS it just takes them getting thrown into the worst situation possible to prove their trust. After the coup? Y'all are good.

For some players (me) those doubts ended in the hospital. For the majority (I'm guessing), it was after the coup, where Kaidan and Ashley basically says "I won't doubt again. You're still my commander." How people can say the VS has no trust in Shepard if they live passed the coup… I don’t know.

At the end of the game, Ashley was saying, "Screw those Cerberus freaks, whatever anyone says, you're you." when all this evidence was telling her otherwise. And, "I wish I'd been there." It just felt like the whole thing was behind them. So FAR behind them at that stage. They moved on and got their relationship back, stronger than ever.

Modifié par MegaBadExample, 11 juin 2012 - 09:39 .


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The BSN has made me decide I dislike most Mass Effect fans. Really, it has.

Between VS hate, and defenses of ME3 that are just stupid, I'm starting to hate venturing out of Ashley's thread.

There was one post yesterday where it seemed like every other post was bashing Ashley. There was another where someone tried to defend ME3's lack of hub worlds by saying that "the Normandy is a hub world," and then that he "doesn't understand the appeal of hub worlds anyway." So, yeah... whatever.

I think ME3 is a fun game, but it has a crap ton of flaws, especially as a Mass Effect game, and the lack of hub worlds is one of them. Sorry, it just is.

Another is a decided lack of content for Ash. Image IPB

Modifié par DWH1982, 11 juin 2012 - 09:45 .


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@ MBE:
True. But you need to listen to the VS to get that far.

Remember those guys calling Ash a racist? They never got beyond the first dialogues where Ash was far more "pro human" than later. Ashley just says her lines, those guys don't like it and never talk to her again - results are known.

If Ash were as prominent as Liara, those guys would either understand her at some point - or really hate her since you also can pull bad lines. Now that I think about it, the only character you can fully ignore and sideline is the VS, if you want. Everyone else returns or has a prominent role. The VS role in the entire game is to deal with death - mostly their own -.o


@ DWH:
Tbh, ME3 is the weakest part of the series - and I thought ME2 was pretty bad storywise. Well, ME2 lacks a coherent story with a meaning, but it's crafted in a good way.
ME3 has a quite good story but lacks everything else, mostly character development. What I disliked most in ME2 (the recruiting/loyalizing missions) I miss most in ME3. Let's say, those missions were too many and too distracting in ME2, but they helped a lot to understand each character. In ME3 those missions are missing / reduced to short moments.

Overall, I'd recommend to reboot ME3.

Modifié par CptData, 11 juin 2012 - 09:48 .


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With my Earthborn Shepard. And this just came to me. No idea about the context, just came to me... also, my Earthborn Shep researched poetry after hearing Ash recite it.

Ashley: Why are you ignoring me!
Shepard: I'm not ignoring you!
Ashley: Yes you are! Like you did back on the SR1! I know what you did back then, and don't think I don't know!
Shepard: I didn't do anything!
Ashley: The instant said I loved poetry, you spent hours in your cabin researching it so you could woo me!
Shepard: That son of a b*tch, Joker told you that?!
Ashley: Yes he did! It's true isn't it!
Shepard: I'm sorry for trying to attract the attention of one of sexiest women I've ever had the pleasure to work with! And because maybe I considered the poetry she recited to be goddamned beautiful!
Ashley: ... *shocked*
Shepard: .... *Oh crap look.*
Ashley: ... John... !
Shepard: *blushing, hands clasped over mouth, looking completely embarrased.*
Ashley: *forgetting anger, trying not to laugh* That is so adorable.
Shepard: Really?
Ashley: Creepy, but adorable.

Modifié par Aurora313, 11 juin 2012 - 09:54 .


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The people who call her racist, are still calling her a racist in ME3. Which proves how truly ignorant some of them are. Ash wasn't racist in ME1. Tali's racism got completely overlook by most of the fan base simply because she's alien and crushes on Shepard (which I still think is a dirty backstabbing move if your Shepard romanced Ash in the first game). "My best friend didn't join the squad! I'll make my move on her boyfriend... now."

I don't mind BSN. It's youtube I honestly can't stand.

Modifié par MegaBadExample, 11 juin 2012 - 09:59 .


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Tali has started to bother me more and more.

Yeah, the whole making a move on Shepard thing is bad, even if she's a little clumsy about it.

What bothers me more is that it seems she brought tech from Normandy back to the Migrant Fleet. That feels like a real breach of trust.

Also proves Ash right. Not that Ash gets much credit for it, or anything.

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Yeah... Tali makin' a move on a possibly broken-hearted Shepard.... Sorry, but if someone made the moves on me after I just had a bad break-up, I'd punch them out.

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Edwin Shepard just ignores her when she tries to make her awkward move on him. Pretends it didn't happen.

Kinda the way he deals with Liara, actually.

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It's just a dirty move by Tali, period. Ashley's saying, "You're like my little sister." and then Tali goes off and tries to sway her man the second she's momentarily out of the picture. It's wrong.

Ashley and Shepard's relationship is unresolved, double wrong. If they were that close, Tali most likely knows first-hand how heartbroken Ashley was after Shepard's death, too. I could go on and on about it.

I feel bad for Ash, though. She always tries her best to do the right thing, and she's constantly getting put down in some way or another. The drama that follows that girl is unreal lol

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Ashley is such a fun squad member to bring on missions.
Ashley and James are my favorite team now