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Lt. Commander Ashley Williams thread: "Don't 'Ash' me!" We're Back Baby!


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Spitfire017 wrote...

Edit: ^ hahaha. nice.

I am just "meh" about Cerra playing Ash. Not that I actually want a ME movie, since the one they are making is about Shepard and ME1...and I have a feeling that it is going to enrage the ME fandom and is not going to make any fan happy (especially when it comes to Shepard LI in the movie).


Yeah, I'm not thrilled about it myself. Especially since it would create it's own canon apart from what the players have created.

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Is the movie actually about Shepards journey or something else like before ME1?

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As I understand it, the movie is based on ME1.

My default position used to be "I don't plan on seeing it unless it turns out to be spectacular." Unless the EC gives me more than I think it will, though, my current position is "I don't plan on seeing it because I've given the franchise enough of my money."

But, yeah. Given how Ash is viewed with much of the fan base, I doubt she'll be the LI, and she might even die on Virmire. Then either that will become "canon," or we'll have to deal with hordes of ME fans telling us that it's "canon" because "it was in the movie."  Image IPB

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^Exactly. And just look at Biowares attempt at creating a canon Shepard in ME3, with all its autodialouge and Grandpa scene, and how that pissed fans off.

The movie will just get fans angry. Those who know nothing about ME on the other hand, might enjoy the movie.

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Yeah, I knew it would be a bad idea when they first announced it. Thankfully, it's still in the early stages of development. Probably will be another couple of years before it's out, hopefully it'll just end up in development hell.

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DWH1982 wrote...

As I understand it, the movie is based on ME1.

My default position used to be "I don't plan on seeing it unless it turns out to be spectacular." Unless the EC gives me more than I think it will, though, my current position is "I don't plan on seeing it because I've given the franchise enough of my money."

But, yeah. Given how Ash is viewed with much of the fan base, I doubt she'll be the LI, and she might even die on Virmire. Then either that will become "canon," or we'll have to deal with hordes of ME fans telling us that it's "canon" because "it was in the movie."  Image IPB


I'm just gonna rent it when it eventually goes to DVD (if it makes it) and if Bioware do go with Shep having a LI you can pretty much guess who its going to be (not Ash) <_<

Modifié par Allstar27, 17 juin 2012 - 02:54 .


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The movie is Bioware's own canon, that's basically how I take it. It's not going to affect anybody else's games, but it'll more than likely affect people's opinions.

The thing that bothers me is the VS. Who's going to be the one to get scarified for the mission, Ashley or Kaidan? Ashley is more popular, but I know both sets of fans are not going to be happy if either of them gets the death boot out of the movie. If Ashley isn't the love interest she is no doubt giving her life on Virmire. Bioware will probably pull the whole "redemption" theme so it'll sting less. Doesn't matter, from what I gathered the male player was supposed to stop Ashley being a martyr, but I can see them switching it around for the movie. "She's a brave woman, who saved us all. She died well, blah, blah, blah. She had a point to prove.” ect. They'll pull that card, I bet.

And Liara is obviously going to be the love interest in the movie because she is, of course... Bioware's favourite blue babe, and constantly gets pushed into everybody’s faces over and over again - so nothing knew there. Not to mention that this is a sci-fi so - "aliens" and all. It's not a military movie, that'll have two soldiers fighting together, and eventually falling in love, then shacking up before a suicide mission.

Nah man, Shepard's gonna be going for the young, barely legal space babe.

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scotiej wrote...

Yeah, I knew it would be a bad idea when they first announced it. Thankfully, it's still in the early stages of development. Probably will be another couple of years before it's out, hopefully it'll just end up in development hell.


...and never actually gets made, like what happened with the planned Halo movie!

Lets hope so.

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Spitfire017 wrote...

The movie will just get fans angry. Those who know nothing about ME on the other hand, might enjoy the movie.


Historically movies based on video games are pretty bad. The best ones are usually only passable. So, maybe that's not the case.

I almost fear it being successful more than I fear it being bad, though. If it's successful, the "new" fans will be fans of the movie, not the game - and they'll want everything in the ME universe to match the movies.

The "worst" of the worst case scenarios would be that the movie is as attentive to canon and background as Dietz's book, but turns out to be a "good" movie. Then we slowly find everything in ME "changed" to accomodate the movie, because it's "more popular."

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Sign my name for "I don't want a ME movie".

Hollywood already butchered Max Payne (Mark Wahlberg? WTF?) and Hitman.

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Who's going to be pissed if Ashley gets killed off in the ME movie?

*raises hand*

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i dont see how a game like mass effect can be adapted into a movie. since mass effect is all about making your unique story. For example, shepard has no personality or character, as a player, you are the one giving him/her the personality or character and how does he/she relate to the other character within this mass effect universe. No matter how they are going to change things like who to sacrifice for the mission or who is going to be the LI, they are going to ****** people off instead.

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BadExamp1e wrote...

Who's going to be pissed if Ashley gets killed off in the ME movie?

*raises hand*


Ash is a BAMF. Therefore, she would survive the nuclear explosion.

/hollywoodsemantics

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BadExamp1e wrote...

Who's going to be pissed if Ashley gets killed off in the ME movie?

*raises hand*



I will  *raises hand*

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BadExamp1e wrote...

Who's going to be pissed if Ashley gets killed off in the ME movie?

*raises hand*


*also raises hand*

I geuss nobody knows how to re-size a Banner? :(

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*raises hand*

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Bioware can't please everybody with this movie, and they ain't gonna. I doubt they really care about p*ssing off an angry fanbase with everything they introduced in ME3 anyway. All they're interested in is making money, and what do you expect? With EA driving them now.

Bioware: This is the direction we wanted to go with the movie. Artist integrity!

And everybody has simply got to deal.

And yeah, yeah, I know. "Don't like how they do things? Don't watch. Simple."

But it's still a slap in the face to the fans who follow the franchise.

Modifié par BadExamp1e, 17 juin 2012 - 03:34 .


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I was curious, are you any "relation" to MegaBadExample?

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scotiej wrote...

I was curious, are you any "relation" to MegaBadExample?


We're twins ;D

Modifié par BadExamp1e, 17 juin 2012 - 03:47 .


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BadExamp1e wrote...

Bioware can't please everybody with this movie, and they ain't gonna. I doubt they really care about p*ssing off an angry fanbase with everything they introduced in ME3 anyway. All they're interested in is making money, and what do you expect? With EA driving them now.

Bioware: This is the direction we wanted to go with the movie. Artist integrity!

And everybody has simply got to deal.

And yeah, yeah, I know. "Don't like how they do things? Don't watch. Simple."

But it's still a slap in the face to the fans who follow the franchise.


mass effect is bioware's property. If they think that " Artist integrity " is good for the series, who are we to stop them?

Modifié par Johnny_TYS38, 17 juin 2012 - 04:00 .


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It's not good for the series, it's good for their wallet.

You're right we can't stop them, but we can certainly disagree with them. From what I gathered, most of the fanbase hates the very idea of a ME movie revolving around a canon Shepard and the decisions he makes - when the player/viewer spent over 100 hours designing and playing as their own. It's a slap in the face to some loyal followers of the franchise, like myself. Do I want to watch a movie, that has Shepard kill Ash? Or romance Liara? No thank you. My Shepard didn't do that. Why would I want to watch a movie that re-writes the "real" (my) Shepard's decisions and actions?

But yeah, BW can do whatever they want, they will. So long as they can earn a buck or two from it.

That's just my opinion, mate. Those who want to watch the movie are free to do so.

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BadExamp1e wrote...

But yeah, BW can do whatever they want, they will. So long as they can earn a buck or two from it.

That's just my opinion, mate. Those who want to watch the movie are free to do so.


Exactly, Bioware can do whatever they want with their franchise.

We're not "entitled" (oh, how I hate that word) to anything. But what everyone seems to forget is that Bioware isn't entitled to our money.

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I think it would be interesting if they set the movie in the same universe but not follow Shepard's story, especially since Shepard's story is whatever the player of the games made it to be. They've stated several times that there is no canon, yet the movie will automatically be designated canon. I guess since they've been going back on what they've said before, this wouldn't be much of a stretch for them.

@DWH, I've never felt entitled to the series either. However, if they make a series that relies so heavily on player choice and then suddenly take that away, then they have to deal with the consequences of angry and disappointed fans, which leads to less sales in the future. I guess it applies even to the endings as well, but I don't want to steer the conversation in that direction. Leads to bouts of depression.

Modifié par scotiej, 17 juin 2012 - 04:42 .


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The Mass Effect universe is ripe with stories that could have been explored. They could have made a movie about antyhing other than Shepard.

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DWH1982 wrote...

BadExamp1e wrote...

But yeah, BW can do whatever they want, they will. So long as they can earn a buck or two from it.

That's just my opinion, mate. Those who want to watch the movie are free to do so.


Exactly, Bioware can do whatever they want with their franchise.

We're not "entitled" (oh, how I hate that word) to anything. But what everyone seems to forget is that Bioware isn't entitled to our money.


For me, it's not about the money. It's about how BW handle the story and characters I've come to care for. I don't have confidence in them at all to do Ash justice, especially when it comes to a movie. The amount of pointless drama between Shepard and the VS is annoying enough in the game without hollywood having more influence on it. They're going to screw up with it one way or another. People can hate on the movie, but I know some people are going to think of the film as canon, and the "Ashley's dead!" jokes will get a whole lot worst because it's "canon."

They honestly shouldn't have made a film about Shepard, period. ME1 does have the best story, but they're going to end up ruining it for a lot of folks.