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[scotiej]

Agreed.

[scotiej]

Close to top Ash:

[Spitfire017]

^Shes beautiful

If Bioware does decide to kill her off in the movie, I don't want anything to do with them afterwards.

[DWH1982]

BadExamp1e wrote...

For me, it's not about the money. It's about how BW handle the story and characters I've come to care for. I don't have confidence in them at all to do Ash justice, especially when it comes to a movie. The amount of pointless drama between Shepard and the VS is annoying enough in the game without hollywood having more influence on it. They're going to screw up with it one way or another. People can hate on the movie, but I know some people are going to think of the film as canon, and the "Ashley's dead!" jokes will get a whole lot worst because it's "canon."

They honestly shouldn't have made a film about Shepard, period. ME1 does have the best story, but they're going to end up ruining it for a lot of folks.

Yeah, actually this is a good point. Even if Bioware is heavily involved in the movie, and even if we trust them to do right by the canon and all of the characters (which I'm not sure I do) the movie is still going to have Hollywood influence.

Hollywood likes to change things. They'll have their own ideas of what's "good," and in some (or many) cases, Bioware will have to go along if they want their movie. Which is why I'm afraid we'll end up with a movie that makes the Dietz novel look downright careful in terms of being faithful to established lore.

The VS is probably a write off, especially Ashley. No one will think that Ashley will be "popular" with movie fans. Or, the writers will just adopt the steryotype of her, and make her a raving racist religious lunatic.

Modifié par DWH1982, 17 juin 2012 - 05:20 .

[Dannycni]

Ah ME movie talk good stuff. Well I for one would love a ME movie, at least as there currently isn't one I would but after it's released I may have different feelings. I think it has the potential to be great but only if done right and even then with ME being such a personal game as in everyone has made different choices throughout you couldn't please anyone.
If it was a maleshep people would complain, femshep people would complain and Shepards LI people would complain about (although BW should take note of the polls on here and make Ash the LI to really slap it up the haters). Plus would it include having to leave Kaidan or Ash behind? I don't think they could include anything like that but quess which character would be killed if it did???
Also I fear it would be a kid friendly movie to make the most money and so it won't be a 15 as it should be and so will be a bit cheesier than it should, in my opinion.
As I said it could be great but after ME3 I fear what BW would produce unless a really great director was brought in.

[BadExamp1e]

That's exactly how I feel about it, Spitfire. You can't butcher a popular character like Ash (who's a romance option) on screen, and have it be unavoidable. It'll ****** off a lot of players. Character deaths worked in the game because you had a choice, and you could prevent it. With a movie, you can't, and it's wrong of Bioware to just stomp all over a fanbase with their "artist integrity".

The story is about ME1. Virmire is the biggest mission, and somebody doesn't make it out, so it's going to happen. I'm telling you guys right now, that Liara is the love interest in the movie, and Ashley's getting the boot on Virmire.

Modifié par BadExamp1e, 17 juin 2012 - 05:24 .

[Dannycni]

Has that been confirmed? Last I heard they still didn't have an actual plot but that was a while ago.

In that case Example you're right. Liara LI and Ash isn't getting off Virmire...I don't know if I would bother watching that.

There would be no need for them to have Ashley if Liara is LI so why not leave her on Virmire plus her emotional words just as the bomb goes off would make it more dramatic than Kaidan so she'll be left to die. That's how I feel BW would see things those aren't my feelings at all.
Unless they try to make it so that both can be saved but one just gets badly injured or something but then all the fans would be up in arms over that cause we all know it didn't happen that way.

Modifié par Dannycni, 17 juin 2012 - 05:44 .

[scotiej]

@Danny, the latest update on the movie (and that's been a while ago) was that they wanted to follow Shepard's story through ME1, Casey Hudson and the Bioware founders would be the executive producers, and that Avi Arad (famous for ruining many comic book movies) would be a co-producer. No other details than that so far.

[BadExamp1e]

Dannycni wrote...

Has that been confirmed? Last I heard they still didn't have an actual plot but that was a while ago.

In that case Example you're right. Liara LI and Ash isn't getting off Virmire...I don't know if I would bother watching that.

No, it's not confirmed, but I'm telling you, if they make a ME1 movie it WILL happen. My gut is 99% sure on this one.

Even in the ME1 trailer Shepard sacrifices Ashley. That's their vision. And c'mon, it's plain obvious that Liara will be the love interest in a SCI FI movie about aliens and space, therefore no reason to keep Ashley around. Let her cleanse her (military!!!!!!!) family name with a heroic last stand, and do her grandfather proud (or whatever they want to call it to quell the sting). And no offence to anybody, but in an action movie, Shepard needs another male soldier on the squad, too (Kaidan), can't walk around and fight with a group of hot women now can he?

[Spitfire017]

I am a bit more optimistic than most here, even though I don't like the idea of a ME1 movie. If they do have Ash die on Virmire, then Iam done with Bioware. But, heopfully the writer sees Ash as a good character, with both strengths and flaws, and gives Ashley her due. 

I tried to find the name of the writer, but only found the faq.

www.legendary.com/news/post/sdcc-film-panel-questions-answered/

But any major decision, such as LI and Virmire, is going to make people angry. That is why its a bad idea alltogether, and hopefully goes the same way as the Halo movie.

[Dannycni]

Yea completely agree. It's sci fi so Liara is gonna be LI and as you say I just don't think BW appreciate Ashley enough. It's gonna right royaly ****** me off!

[scotiej]

Yeah, Hollywood really loves to do crap like that. Still, there has been no real news about it, we can at least hope it will die before it ever got off the ground. If they could do it well, I might want to watch it. But the fact that a movie would essentially establish a "true" canon worries me.

[BadExamp1e]

This right here is what I'm worried about:

Q: How are you going to address the element of 'choice' that the players have in the game?
A: The writer is weaving a path through Shepard's decisions that best supports the narrative of the movie and the motivations of its characters

There you have it.

For me, I always kept Shepard the same (I think). I didn't change anything about him, really. I kept him the same military man as he always was, loyal to the Alliance since 18, who just so happened to share a lot in common with Ashley. They're both the same, in a way, and have went through the same experiences. The same can't be said of Shepard and Liara. Liara was young, exotic and beautiful - everything a man wants. But Shepard had no shared interests or connections with Liara other than that forced "mind rape" one.

However, the writer is going to go with "the motivations of its characters" - Ashley will glady give her life, because she wants to prove, and Liara will force herself on Shepard like she always does.

Ashley original writer isn't even with BW anymore - less power to Ash.

Modifié par BadExamp1e, 17 juin 2012 - 06:06 .

[Spitfire017]

Talk of Ashley dying makes Ash sad:

[Allstar27]

Bioware must know that this movie is gonna p*** off some sections of their fans and I doubt they really want anther backlash so why make the movie besides money?

Modifié par Allstar27, 17 juin 2012 - 06:13 .

[BadExamp1e]

I can't see Ashley surviving Virmire in the ME1 movie unless she's Shepard's girlfriend - and that's not happening.

Bioware LOVES Liara. Every fibre of my being says Liara's the love interest. Which honestly? Pisses me off.

Modifié par BadExamp1e, 17 juin 2012 - 06:19 .

[Dannycni]

I thought when I read about the film that it can't focus on anyhting in game because as you all say too many people will be pissed with choices being forced on them. But then what do they do? Pre ME1? Between 1+2? So it looks like it'd have to focus on the games. But maybe they will set it in ME universe but just not have Shepard? But then do you focus on Anderson or something completely different? However, Shepard is the main draw and people won't be as keen if he isn't in it so it's bound to have him as the main character. Maybe they could so us his earlier career? And his military success he had before ME1?

Whatever happens BW is doomed because simply put they can't please everyone and they have already pissed off enough fans with ME3 as Allstar just said.

Example, of course Liara would be Shepards LI, IT'S BIOWARE! Why would they do anything to promote Ashley?!?!?! Damn anti-Ashleyites

Modifié par Dannycni, 17 juin 2012 - 06:19 .

[scotiej]

@Danny; I thought so too, but I haven't seen anything about that. It would be a good idea to not even cover Shepard's story and focus on something else.

Modifié par scotiej, 17 juin 2012 - 06:20 .

[DWH1982]

Yeah. The movie isn't going to be very good for Ashley.

Our best hope is that maybe Bioware will say the games are the "main" canon and that any movies exist outside of that. Not sure that's very likely, though.

Oh well. I can just ignore the movie, like I ignore the ME3 endings. My own vision for ME is always better, anyway.



(Yeah, I never get tired of that one. Best ME fan art ever.)

scotiej wrote...

@Danny; I thought so too, but I haven't seen anything about that. It would be a good idea to not even cover Shepard's story and focus on something else.

Pre-ME1 or even between ME1 and ME2 would be good for a Mass Effect movie, I think. Focus on something other than the Reapers and the established characters. Mass Effect is a very compelling universe. There should be a lot there.

Modifié par DWH1982, 17 juin 2012 - 06:23 .

[Arban M]

About the ME move, if Ashley dies or something then of course I'm going to be sad and I'm not going to be surprised if Liara will be Shepard's LI. But it's going to be interesting to see how great or bad the movie will be.

Started ME2 today and I have to say something about it.....



I miss you Ashley.

[scotiej]

Yeah, I'll just stick with my head canon as well.

[Dannycni]

Well said an demonstrated Arban...poor Shepard he misses Ashley so much!

[BadExamp1e]

Ha, yeah... Sounds pretty messed up when you break it down, Danny.

"My favourite character has to get killed off, because of Bioware's outstanding favourtism for the alien, Liara."

Liara doesn't have to be the love interest! And at least, she won't be sent to the grave, if she's not.

However, the only way Ashley is living past Virmire... is if she's bunking with Shepard. So give her some love Bioware! LOVE HER DAMN U! D:

[Allstar27]

I wonder what happened to that picture of Ash on the desk.....Kenneth has it most likely 

Modifié par Allstar27, 17 juin 2012 - 06:33 .

[BadExamp1e]

Allstar27 wrote...

I wonder what happened to that picture of Ash on the desk.....Kenneth has it most likely

******* ****** ****** *******

*punch*

Shepard: Give me back that photo, Donnelly.
Kenneth: Aye sir.
Gabby: Told you.
Kenneth: Shut it ye gobsh*te.