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[Spitfire017]

Obvakhi wrote...

@Spitfire: If you're gonna bring regulations into this, then guys like Joker should all have their beards shaved.

@Obvakhi: Beards are allowed under certain circumstances (not too sure on the actual details). My unit is allowed to grow beards in winter time. In my current Platoon there is a guy with a beard. My units old mess sergeant had a beard. If I could post the hair regulations page the CF has, I would. It allows for a beard.

And, ever noticed that Shepard during ME1 never grows a beard? Easy, because as a Alliance officer should, he shaves everymorning before stepping out of his room and heading to say good morning to Ash. ME3, he was under hourse arrest and his "give the frack level" most likely dropped a bit.

Top Ash and goodnight:

Modifié par Spitfire017, 20 juin 2012 - 02:35 .

[scotiej]

lol! That last bit made me laugh.

[Obvakhi]

Spitfire017 wrote...

Obvakhi wrote...

@Spitfire: If you're gonna bring regulations into this, then guys like Joker should all have their beards shaved.

@Obvakhi: Beards are allowed under certain circumstances (not too sure on the actual details). My unit is allowed to grow beards in winter time. In my current Platoon there is a guy with a beard. My units old mess sergeant had a beard. If I could post the hair regulations page the CF has, I would. It allows for a beard.

And, ever noticed that Shepard during ME1 never grows a beard? Easy, because as a Alliance officer should, he shaves everymorning before stepping out of his room and heading to say good morning to Ash. ME3, he was under hourse arrest and his "give the frack level" most likely dropped a bit.

Top Ash and goodnight:

Then why can't Ashley fall under the 'certain circumstances' in a military force 200 years in the future? And trust me, if FemShep could have the option for long hair(without mods), people would be wearing it. Why do you think the new default FemShep with the longest hair won?
I remember back in the day of ME1, fans were even demanding for ManShep to have long hair.

Modifié par Obvakhi, 20 juin 2012 - 02:47 .

[survivor_686]

With regards to hair length and beard regulations, I would like to point out that some countries have relaxed regulations with regards to hair for certain special forces units (its a joke that in London you can spot the JTF 2 operators, just by looking for the guys with beards).

Given that Shepard is an N7 (Alliance Special Forces), maybe the Alliance allowed relaxed standards for Shepard? As for Ashley...perhaps the S-designation merits the same considerations (I'm going with my "shocktrooper" interpretation.

From a dramatic viewpoint, Ashley's long hair / abandonment of the bun, is supposed the reflect the fact that she's now more sure of herself vs in ME1.

Perhaps its a visual method of communicating how more "comfortable" she is with herself and her relationship with the Alliance?

As for Joker's beard, again its supposed to represent how much of a maverick he is...

Modifié par survivor_686, 20 juin 2012 - 02:50 .

[scotiej]

I completely forgot about special forces. As for the rest, it sounds pretty reasonable and the fact that we are talking about video games. Injecting too much reality can ruin them.

[BadExamp1e]

NovaBlastMarketing wrote...

I could have create a whole quote tree from the various responses I have read lately but decied just ot make this a general post . First of all I have No problems with anything about ash or miri personaly dess or the way the used or didnt use thier personality sensuality or body. I thought they were both well done . 

It amazes me when I see people complaining about the way the women look or are dressed especially when referring Ash or Miri. attaire. The way Miri uses her body and sensuality is great and relistic to her  peronanlity and " real women" as well. There are real women that are alike to both ash an miri.

Really Real women do the same thing and peole talk about them the same way. "omg i can see why she ways hired ..." "i bet she was hired just for her skill". I was let go for no real reason a job years back and my replacement was a attractive female's its no secret that some women are able to use other "resources "

Look at exotic dancers and escorts. I actually have repect for the ones that willing choose to o that as a profession becase they break aways from what is " the natural order " and use thier natural gifts to make more money per hour than the average person does . The top ones could problem even match a top corp exec in pay an work less hours doing it. The 9-5 world is a slave market and i applauded anyone that free themselves of it .

Seriously the way people that complain about women being dress to sexy and using thier sexuality is amazing.

Would the complainers be happier if game companies dressed all the women in Volos type armour? 



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The way I see it is if I'm not getting banned for what I'm posting, then I ain't overreacting, but hey. I'm stating my opinion on the subject whether people think I'm raging red about it behind a desk or not (which I'm not).

Don't get me wrong, I wanted to see Ashley with her hair down as much as the next guy. From my perspective it could have been a lot worse. They already blew up her boobs to the maximum, but still it could have easily been a lot worse. I'm not really hating on her jacket, but wearing it into battle isn't what I imagined Ashley doing at all. She has more sense than that. she even says so herself. It feels like something the character herself wouldn't do. Yet BW still make it an option because it's considerably "sexy" for men players. Why do you think Ashley got a unique boob and body flaunting casual outfit, and Kaidan gets the standard? Yeah, because she's a female. Sexism.

I can honestly live with what they have done to Ashley. On Miranda though:

Miranda's attire is not well done, period. The appearance just lets down her intellect and damages her character for me. There is nothing smart about wearing a tight cat suit into battle, with heels. It's basically giving up practicality simply for sexy which is a bit (I apologize), bimbo-ish. You wear that into a fire-fight and you deserve to be shot up. Miranda is an extremely intelligent character, but wearing that into intense combat? Is not sensible in the sligtest. There's where it damages her character. I wish Bioware would respect her a bit more, instead she's become the sex symbol of ME. Those constant ass shots? Ridiculous come ME3. They're not even subtle in the slightest anymore. I'm sure any dedicated Miranda fan would agree with me. Miranda is an operative on the run, not a street dancer trying to make extra money. I can't even explain EDI's ******… like seriously? However, A woman can definitely be "sensual" and "sexy" there's a time and place for it. But the battlefield isn't it.

Who said anything about Volus armor? That's not practical or combat-ready either. (;

Modifié par BadExamp1e, 20 juin 2012 - 03:17 .

[scotiej]

I agree completely about Miranda; there's nothing wrong with her being beautiful but the skin tight outfit, the constant butt shots, and the shallow romance degenerate her character to nothing more than a sex symbol. The ****** on EDI was pretty stupid and just made me wonder "why?".

[Rudy Lis]

survivor_686 wrote...

With regards to hair length and beard regulations, I would like to point out that some countries have relaxed regulations with regards to hair for certain special forces units (its a joke that in London you can spot the JTF 2 operators, just by looking for the guys with beards).

Do they? Or they wear beards just because it fits their current area of operation? Should they be transfered to some reagon where beard considered suspicious, you think they still will wear them?
There are regulations against beards for many reason, including how they obstruct fitting facial oxygen masks or gas masks.
But it doesn't seems to be an issue in ME, where character can wear no eye protection in open space or dusty environment or have oxygen mask that barely fits their faces because otherwise it would require tremendous amount of work to fit and animate it right, and they have to think about memory saving.

survivor_686 wrote...

Given that Shepard is an N7 (Alliance Special Forces), maybe the Alliance allowed relaxed standards for Shepard?

Like what? Most of his beards fit into those regs I've seen, stubble could reflect only "5 o'clock shadow", so to speak - I served with two guys she had to shave twice a day, otherwise they had sandpaper-like on their faces.

survivor_686 wrote...

As for Ashley...perhaps the S-designation merits the same considerations (I'm going with my "shocktrooper" interpretation.

Ahm... And where the hell she going to infiltrate with that new looks of hers? I have list of images in my head, but can't find nothing serious... Oh, wait! Consort! That's how Cerberus got in - they just were hiding under her bed! Cleverl, devious plan.

survivor_686 wrote...

As for Joker's beard, again its supposed to represent how much of a maverick he is...

Really? Of course, he can be allowed not to shave if shaving pose a risk to his jaw or because he got skin condition, precluding from regular shaving. Irritation and all that. Of course, he could fake those conditions, but really, he is cockpit dweller, no one gives a ****.
However - when Joker asks Shepard about medal, Shepard tells Joker he had to shave his beard. So it's commander attitude, nothing else.

[BadExamp1e]

Woooooooooah dude. Realism man.

(Had to be done).

[Rudy Lis]

BadExamp1e wrote...

Woooooooooah dude. Realism man.

(Had to be done).

My second name is Harsh Truth.
Speaking of reality - how's the cake case going?

[BadExamp1e]

I'm still waiting to gather up the stuff lol. I was thinking about waiting two weeks so I could post the messy results on the forum.

[Rudy Lis]

If you wait two weeks, I guess results definitely will be messy.

[BadExamp1e]

Ha! More than likely. If it turns out like a cement brick, I can still have some fun with it at least. Maybe take it to the duck park and feed the ducks, like a boss.

[Rudy Lis]

Be careful, those animal caretakers may blame you for mistreating ducks.

And just for note - I was able to cook cake "just right" from fifth attempt, 3 were overcooked, one was undercooked. So practice, in small forms.

[BadExamp1e]

God damn it, Rudy. Thought you said it was easy? Now you're telling me that it could take me like five tries to get it anywhere decent? lol. Baking sounds hard.

And to stay on topic, Ash is a hardass who likes hard ass.

Modifié par BadExamp1e, 20 juin 2012 - 06:32 .

[Rudy Lis]

BadExamp1e wrote...

God damn it, Rudy. Thought you said it was easy? Now you're telling me that it could take me like five tries to get it anywhere decent? lol. Baking sounds hard.

You never know what you can do till you try.
So stop talking and go try something. Tops - you'll have overcooked crust. Unless you place them in oven and go looking at dat Ash.
So concentrate on cooking and it'll took about half an hour to bake nice cake in small form. Imagine you do that for her and try. If this won't motivate you, well, I don't know what will.

[SJNKD]

Just finished the horizon mission. I hate Ashley yelling at me, I feel like crying sometimes. 

Modifié par SJNKD, 20 juin 2012 - 09:01 .

[CptData]

Morning everyone - how's it going with Ashley?

I start wondering why I love her character that much. And I always get the same answer: she's fascinating and the kind of woman I'd go after. Of course, it won't happen, it's just a nice thought.

Feel a bit exhausted right now. Losing co-workers and friends takes its toll.

[Ushanka]

Well, short stubble it's cool. I suppose Ash likes Sheploo.
Oh, Rudy, you here! Awesome.

[Rudy Lis]

Ushanka wrote...

Well, short stubble it's cool. 

Looking - maybe, feeling? Not sure. Feels like that brush you use to scrap all that crap out of fur. Very funny when in middle of a night you swipe or just placed your own stubble on naked arm or chest - if you fell asleep while sitting. Feeling at the morning are ****ing perfect. And god forbids you to wear a gas mask during that stage...
Plus, according to ladies, it's also not so comfortable to touch. 

 

Ushanka wrote...

Oh, Rudy, you here! Awesome.

Yeah, I'm back. Thanks for welcome.

[CptData]

Rudy: my girl loves my stubble. She complains about the feeling but she loves the look.
Well ... besides that, other girls love stubble more than smooth skin.

(Shepard's stubble looks a bit "too much" for a marine 'though).

[Rudy Lis]

Have cake and eat it too?

Dunno, who am I to judge after all, I still laughing while shaving. But my SO loves my beard if I grow up one and longer hairs (though I never grown up one, my record - 6 months without trimming, not sure how Jack grown hairs that long for 6 months, mine were shorter).

And Sheploo could have just dense stubble - though he is clean shaved and smooth at touch (at least after shaving), but he has too much hair and they too stiff. I served with one guy like that. Also he got enormous skin irritation when shaving, his skin began to look like someone tried to peel it off. Not good sign for guy in NBC regiment.

Modifié par Rudy Lis, 20 juin 2012 - 09:35 .

[Aurora313]

I like Shepard's stubble, the beard in 3 is a little much, but it adds to the whole 'Tired, worn and ragged' look he has. I prefer a subtler stubble, more like what Kaidan gets in 3. They both look good. Its funny, Shepard had such a babyface in 1, compare it to 3 and you can see just how much the war's aged him (can't compare it to two, his reinforced skin was very new and rejuvinated thanks to Lazarus Proj.)

Besides, I don't think Ash is complaining that much...

In their more playful (or drunk, or both) moments, Ash teases him about it. Calls his stubble 'Fluffy'.

[CptData]

Rudy: I know exactly what you mean. I refuse to wet-shave my face since it's either cut in pieces or irritated for days. So I'm a fan of dry-shaving, leaving a 1mm stubble. In that field I do look a bit like Sheploo.

Aurora: actually, Shepard's fatigue should have been shown in a different way:

- Stage 1: clean shaved, ME1 level
- Stage 2: stubble, dark circles
- Stage 3: strong stubble, wrinkles, dark circles

And maybe even new scars, depending on the progress of the story.