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Lt. Commander Ashley Williams thread: "Don't 'Ash' me!" We're Back Baby!


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In ME1 + ME2 I don't consider Shepard's facial hair a 'stubble'. In ME3, he's got a stubble. Must be the late nights, hard work and stress. No time. Plus he's in charge of the operations. The beard isn't a problem. As soon as Shepard's got his helmet on… well, let's just say, you don't need to shave to put on a motorbike helmet. It could be irritating either way, depends on how you look at it. If Ashley had an opinion, I don't think Ashley would have a problem with it unless he's rubbing it somewhere he shouldn't be. (Oh yeah, look who's perverted today). I'd just like to clarify - I meant her neck. =P

Rudy, I'll bake the cake for Ash! Not really… I'd rather do it for the ducklings. ;)

I'm actually sick today. I don't know when I'll get around to trying the cake plans. Hopefully soon, though. I'm eager to try it.

Modifié par BadExamp1e, 20 juin 2012 - 09:45 .


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@Data.

Ok. I accept that. Honestly, as I said about 50+ pages or so back, I would like to see a permenant scar on Shepard's face after the war. Maybe one of his eyes and surrounding tissue got hit, leaving it partially red and glowy.

Dunno.

Besides do you think Ash would be the sort to tease about Shepard's grooming? IE. Bedheads, getting dressed half-asleep and messing up. That kind of thing?

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@Aurora; I always thought Ashley and Shepard's relationship (If not on duty, or going into a suicide mission), would always be a professional one when required, but in private a teasing and playful one. More than most others anyway. You didn't ask me, but I say yes to the teasing. :)

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MBE: okay, it's a five o'clock shadow then in ME1 and 2 ... ^^
Hope you get better, buddy :)

Aurora: I'd love to see a permanent scar too, but no "glowing eyes" - it's a tad too close to a "Terminator look" then - and may even scare the sh!t out of Ash o.O

Ashley teases Shepard a lot, why not in that field? Besides that, I bet she has bed hair too and needs her time in the bathroom. I can see Shep getting annoyed how long Ash needs to rearrange herself while he has to take a leak *g*

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Yeah, but ladies don't like stubble. Most of them. :)
But Shepard looks brutal with this stubble, especially in ME3.

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Ushanka wrote...

Yeah, but ladies don't like stubble. Most of them. :)
But Shepard looks brutal with this stubble, especially in ME3.


Really? Where'd you get this golden information from lol? From what I gathered women prefer a bit of stubble. Joker beards don't seem to be as popular, but stubbles are. Of course, every woman's different. It's kinda like, "different strokes, for different folks." lmao.

Personally, I think Ash likes a bit of scruff. She likes men. And men have stubble. You can't have one without the other. It's nature, lady.

Modifié par BadExamp1e, 20 juin 2012 - 10:06 .


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Personally, I dont mind stubble. Though Joker's fullblown beard isn't appealing to me.

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I like the stubble, I'm no lady but still...I think it gives an informal coolness to some people who pull it off. Not a fan of beards though so Shepard better not let his get much longer!!! Don't know this relates to Ashley so I'll agree that she would make jokes about it

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I heard this from documentary film. :) Well, maybe it's false.

Btw, Shepard looks cool. =)

#35686
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Ashley: Shave the cat off your face, Shepard.
Shepard: No.
Ashley: Pretty please?
Shepard: Oh, fine.
Ashley: Claims the victory-
Shepard: This time.
Ashley: -Savours it like no tomorrow.

Also.. Yeah, thanks Data. It isn't pleasant being sick. I couldn't sleep last night, but I'll bounce back eventually like always. :)

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I have a feeling in that relationship Ashley is gonna get her way more often than not

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Obvakhi wrote...

Demonique wrote...

In Mass Effect 2/3 it seemed like most of the female squaddies were sexed up in some way - Miranda, Jack, Samara/Morinth, Liara's boob-job, Ashley, the Sexbot and whilst she's not a squaddie there's that thing in Zaaed's old room (don't know what an embedded reporter did to merit a double bed, I seriously hope Wrex and the Primarch got better accommodation than her when they were onboard).

Oh and FemShep, though Bioware failed in a big way with that horrid hooker dress



So why do all the men have bodies sculpted like Brad Pitt? I find that rather sexist.


Because BW is too lazy to design separate body models for made characters? Anyway, it's not the same as the female characters in-game. Most of the male characters are covered up outside of romance scenes and don't wear ridiculous clothing
They NOT there to appeal to women, they look that way to appeal to male gamers who want to look that way

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Dannycni wrote...

I have a feeling in that relationship Ashley is gonna get her way more often than not


Ha! I know, right? Privately Ash does. Professionally, Shepard is the boss.

I think it's worth mentioning that I was wrong with my prediction on the England vs Ukraine match. But come on! England were soooooooo god damn lucky. Disallowed goal, and all.

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BadExamp1e wrote...

Dannycni wrote...

I have a feeling in that relationship Ashley is gonna get her way more often than not


Ha! I know, right? Privately Ash does. Professionally, Shepard is the boss.

I think it's worth mentioning that I was wrong with my prediction on the England vs Ukraine match. But come on! England were soooooooo god damn lucky. Disallowed goal, and all.


Not sure about that. I can see them as equals, teasing and whipping each other, 'though Ash might have one or two more victories than Shepard does. Of course, depends on your image of our favorite couple.

My Shepard is whipped - but he has his ways to win over Ashley now and then. It's all about teasing and challenge I guess.

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Oh, don't remind me about this Euro...

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I honestly think Shepard wouldn't mind if Ash 'wore the pants' in the relationship. Every now and then however, he'd be the one in charge.

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CptData wrote...

BadExamp1e wrote...

Dannycni wrote...

I have a feeling in that relationship Ashley is gonna get her way more often than not


Ha! I know, right? Privately Ash does. Professionally, Shepard is the boss.

I think it's worth mentioning that I was wrong with my prediction on the England vs Ukraine match. But come on! England were soooooooo god damn lucky. Disallowed goal, and all.


Not sure about that. I can see them as equals, teasing and whipping each other, 'though Ash might have one or two more victories than Shepard does. Of course, depends on your image of our favorite couple.

My Shepard is whipped - but he has his ways to win over Ashley now and then. It's all about teasing and challenge I guess.


Oh, sure. But can you really see Ashley backing down first? Shepard will probably more often than not just give into her, so she'll stop pestering him lol

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CptData wrote...

Rudy: I know exactly what you mean. I refuse to wet-shave my face since it's either cut in pieces or irritated for days. So I'm a fan of dry-shaving, leaving a 1mm stubble. In that field I do look a bit like Sheploo.


Isn't when you leave stubble is not actually shaving, but trimming?
Anyway, if no formal look is required, I just move my hair clipper around my head, leavying only brows intact.Image IPB If formal look required, then either use electric razor, or had to rely to wet-shaving, since electric razor still leaves some bristles intact. And those are sharp bristles, damn it. Image IPB


CptData wrote...

Aurora: actually, Shepard's fatigue should have been shown in a different way:

- Stage 1: clean shaved, ME1 level
- Stage 2: stubble, dark circles
- Stage 3: strong stubble, wrinkles, dark circles

And maybe even new scars, depending on the progress of the story.


I'd add something, if you don't mind.
Stubble should be remained at player's choice, for example if he don't want stubble - fine, no stubble. The only place where "broken" look with light stubble could be added, is post-Thessia, though those events were so enforced on us, so I didn't felt any compassion to Shepard nor any negative feelings toward Kai Leng. It was just so lame, so all I wanted (since I can't press spacebar and skip that horrible cutscene) is to snort and burst out laughing.
But even there - stubble could not be present, if Shepard just shaved himself before operation. Or did that mechanically, automatically - years of practice just took over you and you just doing that because you did that before. Not sure if Shepard is one of those uncared-for appearance types, really.


BadExamp1e wrote...

No time.



Have you ever tried?


BadExamp1e wrote...

Plus he's in charge of the operations.



Aha. Shepard's Express Delivery - bring your stuff from anywhere!


BadExamp1e wrote...

The beard isn't a problem. As soon as Shepard's got his helmet on… well, let's just say, you don't need to shave to put on a motorbike helmet. It could be irritating either way



We don't know how those helmets mounts.
Plus, maybe he is like Dominic Hasek, who doesn't like when something touches his face and that's why he played in Tretyak-style helmet-cage combo, not that modern full-face mask. It wasn't main reason for me (I prefered better visibility and ease of movement above that), but I agree to that.


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Rudy, I'll bake the cake for Ash! Not really… I'd rather do it for the ducklings. ;)



Come on, stop looking for excuses, who do you think you are, bEAware? Image IPB
Imagine you make this cake for person you truly love (like yourself, if you egocentricImage IPB). No to impress that person, just because you just want to make good ****ing cake! Not sure how you Tommies name it, but let's say from the heart.


BadExamp1e wrote...

I'm actually sick today. I don't know when I'll get around to trying the cake plans. Hopefully soon, though. I'm eager to try it.


Get well soon.


BadExamp1e wrote...

Oh, sure. But can you really see Ashley backing down first?


If you value the relationship, then you back down first, even claiming you was wrong, even if you wasn't. I mean really wasn't, not just for argument sake.
And if opponent begin to abuse it, I guess there will be new opponent.

Modifié par Rudy Lis, 20 juin 2012 - 10:41 .


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Demonique wrote...

Obvakhi wrote...

Demonique wrote...

In Mass Effect 2/3 it seemed like most of the female squaddies were sexed up in some way - Miranda, Jack, Samara/Morinth, Liara's boob-job, Ashley, the Sexbot and whilst she's not a squaddie there's that thing in Zaaed's old room (don't know what an embedded reporter did to merit a double bed, I seriously hope Wrex and the Primarch got better accommodation than her when they were onboard).

Oh and FemShep, though Bioware failed in a big way with that horrid hooker dress



So why do all the men have bodies sculpted like Brad Pitt? I find that rather sexist.


Because BW is too lazy to design separate body models for made characters? Anyway, it's not the same as the female characters in-game. Most of the male characters are covered up outside of romance scenes and don't wear ridiculous clothing
They NOT there to appeal to women, they look that way to appeal to male gamers who want to look that way


Men fitting the stereotype of having rock hard bodies isn't the same as female characters being sexy? We got shirtless Kaidan in the hospital(they buffed him up I see), James is walking around with a skintight shirt highlightin all them muscles and is also seen shirtless, Thane's open jacket is the equivalent of Samara, Jacob's suit is as tight as Miranda's, Grunt and Zaeed both have cut-off sleeves(gotta show off dem biceps).

I'm just saying, why do you only attack the females? As if male squaddies aren't sexed up in some way also.
And I think women would disagree with you about it not appealing to them.

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Demonique is right; while the male body models in games can and do appeal to women, they're primarily designed to appeal to men who want to look that way. They usually don't show gratuitous butt shots or crotch shots of guys in a game unless the makers of the game are trying to make some kind of humorous point. Look at how Miranda was treated to know that women are still targeted as sexual objects and that video games are still heavily marketed towards males.

Modifié par scotiej, 20 juin 2012 - 11:09 .


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@scotiej Women will always be sexual objects to male population, I don't find it interesting, I felt sorry for miranda because of it. Most of her fans most likely get off to her, Which I find disgusting.

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I understand that, you're preaching to the choir here.

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scotiej wrote...

I understand that, you're preaching to the choir here.


Most likely... But oh well, I'm more concerned baby proofing my house.

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SJNKD wrote...

@scotiej Women will always be sexual objects to male population, I don't find it interesting, I felt sorry for miranda because of it. Most of her fans most likely get off to her, Which I find disgusting.


With the amount of "DAT ASS" comments I've came across, I'd say you're right. Whether they were joking or not, Bioware definitely listened to them in the end, and gave those players more "DAT ASS" shots in ME3, all right. Pathetic fan pandering that is.

Modifié par BadExamp1e, 20 juin 2012 - 11:43 .