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Lt. Commander Ashley Williams thread: "Don't 'Ash' me!" We're Back Baby!


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#36401
Rudy Lis

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CptData wrote...

Chris L'Etoile, Ashley's writer, kinda confirmed Ashley has a hispanic background.


If she has, then they should give her appropriate head. Have "some" hispanic blood doesn't make her hispanic. Because in this case I could claim to be representative of any nation/race traces of which I have in my blood. And hell if I know who is there.


CptData wrote...

However, her facial model is an Eastern European model (Czech, if I remember correctly). I don't know exactly.


I guess Czech, that nosebridge of hers is more common among "western" East Europians I saw. Maybe I'm wrong, of course - with our history...


CptData wrote...

So in my headcanon she's pretty close to a Latina. Maybe your Ash is from Eastern Europe then? *g*


I don't have "head kanone". I don't understand a concept.
Good game should entertain you without it and if you need to made up something yourself - that's a "credit" to developers.


Aurora313 wrote...

Ok. I will admit, I spoiled myself slightly with one of the endings... like literally the last 2 minutes.... and I was satisfied with it.... SO FAR.


Good for you. And somewhat good for me. Not because I'm satisfied, but because I won money I bet on ending quality. And if cheapskate guy sent me money himself, without reminding and without me actually seeing ending, I guess that's the answer. Posted Image

Modifié par Rudy Lis, 26 juin 2012 - 12:16 .


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"Headcanon" has nothing to do with a gun, Rudy. It's a concept of your own idea. *g*

If you create a story covering the time after ME3 including Ashley, Shepard, Garrus & co, it's your headcanon. If you imagine Ashley being a caffeine addict that loves playing old computer games, then it's headcanon since it was never stated in the game.

I enjoy games allowing me to have that freedom. Of course, the more fluff I get the easier it is to create a headcanon of a certain character. In case of Ashley it's ME1. ME3!Ashley simply doesn't give enough fluff to support my headcanon - my image of her is highly influenced by ME1!Ashley.


Is there any way to date Ashley's face model? Nevermind - she won't have Ashley's character :(

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Hey everyone,
Long time no post. I have largely given up on this game mainly because I find it pathetic how the pride and arrogance of hudson and walters caused this whole ending debacle in the first place and the same problem caused them to go the "additional clarity and closure" route instead of fixing the crap ending. So while I am done playing it, I am curious how the "clarity" turns out. If someone can make a video of a paragon ending with Ash as love interest, and not the control or merge ending (so as to either provide a chance of being with her or sending everything up in a blazing ball of glory), I would really appreciate it.

#36404
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 I think I just saw the last 2 minutes of a new ending. If it is real then it wasn't that bad. The only problem was it didn't show Ashley.

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CptData

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Welcome back, Rdubs. Missed you :)

I hope I can play it in a few hours. Too bad I have to do some exercises first (distracting from the game) and my girl needs attention too - but I bed I can make it today. Shouldn't be too difficult.

There's only one thing I definitely want to know -before- I do my new attempt on the endings: does Ashley's romance get a conclusion? A "yes" or "no" is enough.
I consider the current endings as "no" conclusion.

#36406
Rudy Lis

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CptData wrote...

"Headcanon" has nothing to do with a gun, Rudy. It's a concept of your own idea. *g*


I may be stupid, concussed and amnesiac, but I placed quotation marks there for reason.


CptData wrote...

If you create a story covering the time after ME3 including Ashley, Shepard, Garrus & co, it's your headcanon. If you imagine Ashley being a caffeine addict that loves playing old computer games, then it's headcanon since it was never stated in the game.


I still don't understand the concept nor purpose. Placing existing character as "easter egg", sort of Drizzt or Elminster in Baldur's Gate, is acceptable, for example we placed characters from "official" game into our mods or used IRL person to refer to it, I hardly consider it as "headcanon".


CptData wrote...

I enjoy games allowing me to have that freedom. Of course, the more fluff I get the easier it is to create a headcanon of a certain character. In case of Ashley it's ME1. ME3!Ashley simply doesn't give enough fluff to support my headcanon - my image of her is highly influenced by ME1!Ashley.


Isn't any game gives you that freedom? Well, almost any, outside of dice poker and tetris, maybe. Posted Image


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I consider the current endings as "no" conclusion.


Received message from that cheapskate. Couldn't stop laughing for several minutes - message beginned with phrase which could be roughtly translated as "****ing curd" and continued same manner for whole length (a page in Word, no less). Anyway, according to this message, there is no conclusion. If Shepard's breath style conclusion is enough for you - than it is. If you wanted at least something clear like ME1-2 Endings, without "hints" that something possibly maybe could happen, then no. Money from that guy hints it not conclusion.
Ah, yes, Ash is there, but all her presence is shown on those screens we already saw.
Summary - "lazy slobs" (not exactly) and something I cannot even translate.
Well, I guess ME3 will be first game for my several decades of gaming I actually request moneyback for.

#36407
BaneForever

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 I don't have the dlc yet so I can't confirm about Ashley's romance getting a conclusion. There wasn't one in that ending on youtube.

#36408
iHorizons

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Never thought I would actually say this but I actually the ending now. They still don't make sense but they are far more acceptable than they were before.

#36409
Rudy Lis

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Turd. Now with bacon.
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And just in case of failure in consistency in artistic integrity recognization and appreciation - farewell, it was nice to know you.

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@Rudy Lis

It's better than I thought actually

Modifié par iHorizons, 26 juin 2012 - 01:31 .


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Duet Effect Chapter 2 is up. Not entirely satisfied, but its got what I wanted in it. Ashley appears. Kaidan, not so much.

Modifié par Aurora313, 26 juin 2012 - 01:38 .


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So in short: downloading the EC isn't worth the time since it's still the same s*** with new flavor?
Well, guess we should have seen it coming.

Guess EDI & Geth destruction get confirmed in the Destruction Ending, Shepard dies in all other endings and the Normandy's fate is still the same stuff like in the original endings. Someone may PM me ;)

#36413
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I've seen two out of three of the extended endings... gotta tll ya, If I saw those the first time around. I would have been satisfied. Not overly happy, but satisfied. Haven't seen control yet...

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Braaainzzz! I mean, hello everyone! Um... don't mind me, just another risen corpse awaken from its headcanon dream to experience those new amazing cutscenes. After three months in creation it haz to be epix. Right?

#36415
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No CptData the endings are better

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The new endings are okay with me. They make headcannoning a reunion much easier (less to explain away, since BW just decided to retcon certain things). Destroy actually feels like winning now.

Sorry EDI.

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Aurora313 wrote...

I've seen two out of three of the extended endings... gotta tll ya, If I saw those the first time around. I would have been satisfied. Not overly happy, but satisfied. Haven't seen control yet...

 
i feel that bioware seems to have change the control ending from the worst ending to the best ending

Modifié par Johnny_TYS38, 26 juin 2012 - 01:55 .


#36418
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Johnny_TYS38 wrote...

Aurora313 wrote...

I've seen two out of three of the extended endings... gotta tll ya, If I saw those the first time around. I would have been satisfied. Not overly happy, but satisfied. Haven't seen control yet...


i feel that bioware seems
to have change
the control ending from
the worst ending to
the best ending                 


Only if you want to be a god and determine the galaxy's direction.  I'd prefer to let the galaxy control its own fate.

They did make all three interesting and different though.

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krukow wrote...

The new endings are okay with me. They make headcannoning a reunion much easier (less to explain away, since BW just decided to retcon certain things). Destroy actually feels like winning now.

Sorry EDI.


Yeah. Sorry EDI. But I simply can't take control and hope everything is going to be alright. And I won't do the synthesis-thing since that's playing God. So ... sorry EDI. I love you ...

(I still can headcanon some story that gives her a second chance 'though).


I still need to play the EC - from what I got so far the Normandy is no longer screwed, am I right?

Modifié par CptData, 26 juin 2012 - 02:23 .


#36420
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Well...I gave into temptation and watched the endings...




SPOILERS BELOW

- Planet Incest is removed. The Normandy is no longer a wreckage and is in flyable condition
- Destroy ending doesn't mean the end of civilization as we know it
- The Citadel doesn't completely shred itself to pieces (guess which planet it now orbits)
- your LI gets to plant your name on the memorial wall
- High EMS still gets you the breath scene and nothing else..
- Rumours abound about extra scenes showing your war assets in action (can't confirm this, Kotaku commentators claim this)
- Starbrat is still there in the choice sequence...but you can refuse him (EMS determines how succesful it is, this is unconfirmed)

Its not great...but its not terrible either. I'd give it a B+. It should have been put in originally and it would have saved Bioware a lot of trouble. It fits the definition of bittersweet and the music may give rise to manly tears.

#36421
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Well, it's not the best outcome but still much better as the old endings, survivor.

At least my headcanon is mostly intact, even with the new endings. I just need to change the stuff dealing with Gilligan's Planet - it's no longer necessary.

EDI dies, right?
Do ALL Geth die too? I hope not - or I hope it's not shown. In that case, I can headcanon them to be alive.

#36422
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The new endings are ok for me, well, except Synthesis which I actually find more creepy/disturbing. I still feel that they could of come up with something better but I do feel closure from the extended endings, if they had been included originally I would have felt not happy but satisfied. Despite feeling like it's trolling on Bioware's part I do like the additional reject/refuse ending.
SPOILER SPOILER SPOILER
I've only seen youtube clips of the endings which sadly feature Liara and not our awesome Ashley as the LI. In the destroy ending where Shepard lives is Ashley the one who hesitates and doesn't put Shepard's name up on the Normandy wall?

#36423
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So I go to check Ps Store for the EC but find out decides to drop a system update on us so I have to download this first. -___-

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Sony I mean. Damn phone... lol

#36425
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Damn it, its not there. Have to wait until 6pm to download. Which means I'll get to play late tonight or tomorrow. LAME