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[Spitfire017]

BadExamp1e wrote...

Spitfire, what have I told you about watching things that don't exist?

Something about the space time continuum?  

Top Ash time:


Funny story, I typed "top Ash" into google while trying to search for a Ash pic

Modifié par Spitfire017, 28 juin 2012 - 12:41 .

[BadExamp1e]

Spitfire017 wrote...

BadExamp1e wrote...

Spitfire, what have I told you about watching things that don't exist?

Something about the space time continuum?  

Wut.

If it quells your pain any less, know that I watched that video too. Let's just say... My eyes will never see it again.

[BadExamp1e]

Top Ash.... D:

Why does this game take your feelings and stomp all over them, at times?

Modifié par BadExamp1e, 28 juin 2012 - 12:44 .

[iHorizons]

LOL


http://desmond.image...jpg&res=landing

[SweShadow90]

Joe1962 wrote...

No, it's not just you.

Overall, I'm satisfied with the EC, but I was really hoping for a LI reunion, without having to head-canon one. 

Well I agree with you. The EC is satisfying, at least until the lack of LI reunion. If they say this is the end of the series, then not having a reunion won't do.

BadExamp1e wrote...

Believe me, you aren't alone. I was pretty disappointed that I never got a reunion scene, just a bitter sweet memorial scene. My brother came into the room with toasties straight after I completed it, I said, "Get that away from me."

I was PISSED.

Now, it's not so bad.

ARE YOU MAD BRO?! HOW CAN YOU SAY "NO" TO TOASTIES?!

But that's the thing. In the syntethis ending, Joker gets EDI and she even gets human emotions. That's a F-ing win ending.. for EDI and Joker at least.. It really moved me.

but just that memorial thing where Ash isn't sure what to do.. It just leaves you saying to "and then?.." to your screen.

Modifié par SweShadow90, 28 juin 2012 - 01:06 .

[Spitfire017]

BadExamp1e wrote...

Spitfire017 wrote...

BadExamp1e wrote...

Spitfire, what have I told you about watching things that don't exist?

Something about the space time continuum?  

Wut.

If it quells your pain any less, know that I watched that video too. Let's just say... My eyes will never see it again.

It was meant to be a joke.

My curiosity was semi-satisfied (I wish they went into more detail), and I will never watch it again.

Modifié par Spitfire017, 28 juin 2012 - 12:56 .

[DWH1982]

I'm mixed about the lack of a reunion scene.

It would have been nice, but the more I think about it, the more I kind of like leaving it to my imagination.

Now I can come up with my own story.

[BadExamp1e]

I hate making up my own story. I play the game for the story.

And yes, my imagination sucks. That's why. =P

Modifié par BadExamp1e, 28 juin 2012 - 01:00 .

[iHorizons]

DWH1982 wrote...

I'm mixed about the lack of a reunion scene.

It would have been nice, but the more I think about it, the more I kind of like leaving it to my imagination.

Now I can come up with my own story.

http://desmond.image...jpg&res=landing

[Spitfire017]

Fan-fiction is not my forte (unless it is crossover fiction, like Star Trek vs. Star Wars, etc.) but Iam interested in writing something about Ash and Shepard's reunion following the EC (just like many are doing right now). However, I should just be concentrating on Project Phoenix, instead of attempting something new.

[SweShadow90]

DWH1982 wrote...
....Mass Effect was always triumphant. Mass Effect was always about showing how nothing is inevitable, how we can take our own godd*mn fate into our own hands, even against the Reapers.
"

Not to take sides with bioware. But don't forget that Mass Effect is also about making the hard decisions. And that's what it feels like Bioware has focused on in the ME3 ending. I don't see that as a bad thing. Cause "shooting the boogie man in the face" is easy, making hard decisions is not. It gives the story a greater depth and it enables more opportunity for the player to make choices, which is a big part of why we love this game.

[DWH1982]

Just out of curiosity - does anyone know how many writers from ME1 are left at Bioware?

ME3 had a number of great moments, but there's a lot to it that's off. I wonder if it could just be from too much of the original team not being around.

I think what we have with Ash is fine, at least up until after the coup when she vanishes as a character outside of the romance. But I have to think she and Thane would have been better if their original writer had stayed.

@SweShadow: I'd prefer hard decisions to resolve a situation that's thematically consistent. What they gave us isn't.

The outcomes also were anything but triumphant, at least prior to the EC (haven't seen after yet) and the endings to ME1 and 2 were very triumphant. Sorry, but if I want to be depressed, I have plenty in real life.

Modifié par DWH1982, 28 juin 2012 - 01:07 .

[Spitfire017]

I think it is like 25% of those from ME1 who are still working at Bioware. There was an image/chart I saw about it, but don't know where it is.

Modifié par Spitfire017, 28 juin 2012 - 01:10 .

[DWH1982]

I dunno if this type of trilogy is a good idea for video games. Too much turnover while the trilogy is being created.

[BadExamp1e]

SweShadow90 wrote...

Joe1962 wrote...

No, it's not just you.

Overall, I'm satisfied with the EC, but I was really hoping for a LI reunion, without having to head-canon one. 

Well I agree with you. The EC is satisfying, at least until the lack of LI reunion. If they say this is the end of the series, then not having a reunion won't do.

BadExamp1e wrote...

Believe me, you aren't alone. I was pretty disappointed that I never got a reunion scene, just a bitter sweet memorial scene. My brother came into the room with toasties straight after I completed it, I said, "Get that away from me."

I was PISSED.

Now, it's not so bad.

ARE YOU MAD BRO?! HOW CAN YOU SAY "NO" TO TOASTIES?!

But that's the thing. In the syntethis ending, Joker gets EDI and she even gets human emotions. That's a F-ing win ending.. for EDI and Joker at least.. It really moved me.

but just that memorial thing where Ash isn't sure what to do.. It just leaves you saying to "and then?.." to your screen.

The toasties were evil in that moment.

Nah, I really just needed to just sit back and think, you know? I was disapoined at first that BW just left it... there.

The synthesis ending moved me as well. The way EDI knew Ashley was suffering, and then they hugged it out. That's when the feels just poured out of me.

[iHorizons]

@Spitfire017

Are jtav, MisterJB, or Ieldra2 involved in project Phoenix?

[SweShadow90]

DWH1982 wrote...

@SweShadow: I'd prefer hard decisions to resolve a situation that's thematically consistent. What they gave us isn't.

The outcomes also were anything but triumphant, at least prior to the EC (haven't seen after yet) and the endings to ME1 and 2 were very triumphant. Sorry, but if I want to be depressed, I have plenty in real life.

The EC fixes that. Believe me. It both clarifies everything and makes it much more triumphant.

[BadExamp1e]

DWH1982 wrote...

Just out of curiosity - does anyone know how many writers from ME1 are left at Bioware?

ME3 had a number of great moments, but there's a lot to it that's off. I wonder if it could just be from too much of the original team not being around.

I think what we have with Ash is fine, at least up until after the coup when she vanishes as a character outside of the romance. But I have to think she and Thane would have been better if their original writer had stayed.

@SweShadow: I'd prefer hard decisions to resolve a situation that's thematically consistent. What they gave us isn't.

The outcomes also were anything but triumphant, at least prior to the EC (haven't seen after yet) and the endings to ME1 and 2 were very triumphant. Sorry, but if I want to be depressed, I have plenty in real life.

Ashley's writer leaving left a hole for sure. There's just something missing about her. During the downtime scene I really noticed it. Ash has matured. In a way, I don't really know what to do with her anymore. A bit too boring and calm. And not enough funny.

Modifié par BadExamp1e, 28 juin 2012 - 01:19 .

[DWH1982]

If I don't feel like I've been punched in the stomach after watching them, it'll be an improvement. Because that's how I felt the first time.

@BadExample: I like to think that the fun and snarkiness is still there. It just comes out in stuff that happens off screen.

I do picture her as being a bit more mature and serious, though. Partly that's from being an officer, but partly it's from going through sheer hell after Shepard died in ME1. She was clearly in love with him, and losing someone you love like that changes you.

Maybe being with Shepard again when she returns to Earth after ME3 will slowly change her back a little bit. I don't think she'll ever be completely the same, but maybe Shepard can bring back more of the fun and snarkiness in her.

Modifié par DWH1982, 28 juin 2012 - 01:22 .

[SweShadow90]

BadExamp1e wrote...

The toasties were evil in that moment.

Nah, I really just needed to just sit back and think, you know? I was disapoined at first that BW just left it... there.

The synthesis ending moved me as well. The way EDI knew Ashley was suffering, and then they hugged it out. That's when the feels just poured out of me.

Same here.. man, I wanted to hug them both. Like I was on my way to hug the tv, but then... "yeah right... it's just a game"


Well folks, it was a short visit today. have to sleep now.

Bye!

[Td1984]

iHorizons wrote...

@Spitfire017

Are jtav, MisterJB, or Ieldra2 involved in project Phoenix?

I can't comment on JB or Ieldra, but I highly doubt jtav would (she doesn't like Ash).

[Spitfire017]

Td1984 wrote...

iHorizons wrote...

@Spitfire017

Are jtav, MisterJB, or Ieldra2 involved in project Phoenix?

I can't comment on JB or Ieldra, but I highly doubt jtav would (she doesn't like Ash).

^Looks like I was beaten to the punch, but I don't know many on BSN anyway.

Modifié par Spitfire017, 28 juin 2012 - 01:36 .

[iHorizons]

Td1984 wrote...

iHorizons wrote...

@Spitfire017

Are jtav, MisterJB, or Ieldra2 involved in project Phoenix?

I can't comment on JB or Ieldra, but I highly doubt jtav would (she doesn't like Ash).

Jtav is a terrible writer anyway, thats a good thing. JB and Ieldra2 are just as bad if not worse.
Also I thought Project Phoenix was Miranda

[BadExamp1e]

DWH1982 wrote...

If I don't feel like I've been punched in the stomach after watching them, it'll be an improvement. Because that's how I felt the first time.

@BadExample: I like to think that the fun and snarkiness is still there. It just comes out in stuff that happens off screen.

I do picture her as being a bit more mature and serious, though. Partly that's from being an officer, but partly it's from going through sheer hell after Shepard died in ME1. She was clearly in love with him, and losing someone you love like that changes you.

Maybe being with Shepard again when she returns to Earth after ME3 will slowly change her back a little bit. I don't think she'll ever be completely the same, but maybe Shepard can bring back more of the fun and snarkiness in her.

I don't think Ashley is interested in that the same. And yeah, I don't think she'll ever go back to being the same. I doubt either of them will be the same after the war. They'll have a lot to push through, both mental and physical. I don't even know what Ashley will do with herself if she lost Shepard again. Would she ever be able to move on this time? I honestly don't think it. We see how she reacts to the 212 in the hospital, she refuses to forget. Now imagine what it would be like for her except it was Shepard.

In ME1, they never really got a chance at their relationship, but in ME3 they got a real shot at it, they said their I love yous and had their touchy feely moments. But that would just make it worst when it all comes down to it, right?

Anyways, I always felt that there was just something missing from Ash. Take the hospital scene for example, when faithful Shepard says his piece she trips up on her words. Three years ago she would have been calling him out on it, or teasing him in some manner. But yeah, obviously things are tense between them at that stage, so I can forgive.

The only flaw I have now is that I wished Ash had a conversation on the Normandy. Preferably the "life after death" one which got cut...

Modifié par BadExamp1e, 28 juin 2012 - 01:40 .

[DWH1982]

I at least read in the earlier posts in here that some people got the ending where Ash doesn't put Shepard's name on the wall without a very high EMS. So, maybe I'll be able to see that after all.

If that's the case, then I apologize to Bioware for thinking they were tyring to force multiplayer on me again.

Time for me to hit the sack, I think.