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[iHorizons]

@CptData

I guess I don't exist

[CptData]

You do exist :innocent:

iHorizons wrote...

When you're with Shepard your survival rate goes up. You could say Garrus is a sole survivor, I don't think he went through a lot as well. But overall I do agree with most of what you said Ashley is a tough soldier and most defiantly deserves to be a Spectre.

Also a random question does anyone think Anderson is kind of a douche for trying to steal Shepards ship and make it his mobile command center.

About your question: nope. At the point when Anderson was pulling that stunt, it was unlikely Shepard would return as CO. He was stripped of his rank, remember? Only that invasion brought Shepard back.

However, I can see that Anderson planned to recruit Shepard as CO for the Normandy and still remained on board as Admiral and chief strategist. That's not unusual - today flagships usually have a Captain (CO, commanding that ship) and an Admiral commanding the fleet / flotilla INCLUDING said flagship.

So it's up to you what Anderson tried to do:

- take command of the Normandy with Ashley / Kaidan as CO, Anderson fleet CO.
- take command of the Normandy with Ashley / Kaidan as XO / Anderson being CO and fleet CO.
- take command of the Normandy with Ashley / Kaidan as XO, Shepard CO, Anderson as fleet CO.

Modifié par CptData, 02 juillet 2012 - 10:55 .

[Aurora313]

CptData wrote...

*zip*

I wonder if Hackett and Shepard turn out to be friends of some sort. Anderson and Shepard were indeed friends, nearly family - and Hackett seems to have some sort of connection to him too. Does that connection also include Ashley? Despite being formal and such, Hackett feels not that detached from the troops he commands compared to most Generals I know. Maybe it has to do with the fact Hackett worked his way from frontline duty as soldier to an Admiral ...

I'd say that Shepard and Hackett's relationship is a working one. I heard some theory floating around is that Hacket is Earthborn/Spacer Shepard's Dad, but I highly doubt that's the case.

@iHorizon

Shepard surrendered the Normandy to Anderson when he turned himself in. Anderson and Hackett probably managed to get some exonerating evidence to release Shepard, or at least they were going to get Shepard on some form of probation on the Normandy as a consultant. Shepard's reinstatement was coming, but it probably would have taken a hell of a lot longer than it did.

Modifié par Aurora313, 02 juillet 2012 - 11:16 .

[CptData]

Nah. If Hackett is a relative to Shepard, then he's an uncle or something like that. I simply can't see him being his dad, especially since only Spacer!Shepard has parents. And there's nothing pointing towards Steven Hackett & Hannah Shepard are married / were married at some point.

To keep it Ashley: is it confirmed Hackett took part in the battle of Shanxi? He took part in the First Contact War, but that's all what I know.
I try to see Hackett as a friend of General Williams.

[iHorizons]

Shepard saves the galaxy from annihilation and his reward his getting stripped of his rank?
I wonder how much he will be deranked for defeating the Reapers.

[Aurora313]

iHorizons wrote...

Shepard saves the galaxy from annihilation and his reward his getting stripped of his rank?
I wonder how much he will be deranked for defeating the Reapers.

Think of it from the Alliance's perspective. Arguably your best soldier has been reported as KIA. Two years later, you see reports that the same soldier has appeared in the criminal underworld and seems to be willingly aiding known terrorists.

From the Alliance point of view, Shepard is a defector. He's betrayed his oath to serve and protect the Alliance. And the council as well since Cerberus is humanity first at any cost  - though as we know of a meta level Shepard was coerced to believe the more paltable 'best for humanity' slogan. And stopping the Collectors truly was what was best for humanity in the traverse.

And lest we forget the Alpha Relay incident? Where  - one, it hasn't been made pulbic that Shepard has split from Cerberus and - two, is a nessecary evil that looks like a massive terrorist attack. And all mentions of the Reapers has been surpressed for the last two years. Council SpecTRe/Hero of the Galaxy or not, Shepard is not immune to Justice or the law. Yes, he was forced into these actions, but there is little evidence in his favour which hasn't been classified or surpressed.

He was stripped of his rank and grounded to appease the Batarians. When the Reapers arrive and everything he's said gets proven, he's reinstated. Not entirely sure if persercusion will contiune after the fact, but since the Batarians are all but dead and Shepard just saved the Galaxy from the biggest damned threat they've even seen and ever will see again? Anyone who tries to press charges will be demonized. Not to mention anyone who survivies the Hammer/Sword charge would praise him as a hero akin to a god.... (Some endings the 'God' part is pretty much literal in Shepard's regard.)

Modifié par Aurora313, 02 juillet 2012 - 12:13 .

[iHorizons]

@Aurora

So the next cycle worships Shepard as a god?

[CptData]

iHorizons wrote...

@Aurora

So the next cycle worships Shepard as a god?

Which next cycle?

Good one, Aurora. Pretty much this: Shepard got discharged to appease Batarians. And since the Reapers are no more, I'm sure some official suggested to promote Shepard and drop any charges. Not that Shepard's in need of that. I'm pretty sure he resigns or goes for a long vacation at least. Hopefully with Ash.

[Aurora313]

iHorizons wrote...

@Aurora

So the next cycle worships Shepard as a god?

I was referring to the Control Ending. Shepard all but proclaims himself a God in the Renegade version. Paragon he calls himself an immortal guardian.

[ColonelFacepalm]

Shepard got stripped of his rank in the Alliance and put on trial for destroying  a mass relay and killing over 300k batarians but the public is not aware that in doing so he delayed the reaper invasion since the reapers are just a myth or at least.all knowledge about them is classified. But afrer the war i doubt anyone will doubt their existence or try to hide it. The relay accident will probably be declassified and all charges will be dropped.

[BP93]

After playing some more of my femshep this morning, maybe it's best I don't have Ash. I'm playing as an infiltrator and Garrus, by my count, took at least 3 of my kills while I was reloading my Mantis on the past mission. Can only imagine how many Ash would be taking...

[CptData]

BP93 wrote...

After playing some more of my femshep this morning, maybe it's best I don't have Ash. I'm playing as an infiltrator and Garrus, by my count, took at least 3 of my kills while I was reloading my Mantis on the past mission. Can only imagine how many Ash would be taking...

Garrus is a glass canon. He can't take much hits before going down while Ash is still standing. So better take her than Garrus. My Shep!Inflitrator and Ash were the best team ever. Especially when taking down Banshees. That Black Widow is my best friend - I still miss it in MP. But I'm quite lucky - I got the N7 Sniper rifle which is pretty much deadly.

My fave combo is said rifle and the Carnifex. Too bas Ashley can't wield a pistol - she would get it too.

[DWH1982]

CptData wrote...

Trope not fully played in that way in the beginning of ME2: Ashley is not the only survivor of the Normandy, but one of few. I don't get it why ppl say "almost everyone of the Normandy got saved" - 20 died. It's funny since you never saw 20 crewmen in ME1 - there were less on board. Even if some of them were sleeping (did you see any crew quarters?), I doubt the SR1 had much more than 30 crewmen plus officers and Shepard's squad. Which means, more than half of the crew died in that attack. Just for the record.

Someone states in game, I think it's Jacob, that most of the crew made it off.

The Normandy SR-1 was on its shakedown cruise when it went to Eden Prime. It likely wasn't fully staffed, and while I'm not 100% sure, I think someone (maybe Joker?) says as much in the early part of the game. Probably it picked up extra crew after the Battle of the Citadel, so it would be fully staffed.

CptData wrote...That one scene subverts the trope, 'though it gets reinforced by the following third of the game: Ash recovered within 2 or 3 weeks. That's what I'd say it took to form the Krogan-Turian alliance and before Udina tried to seize power.

That's waaaaayyyy to short a time to make sense. Even with 2186 era medical technology, I don't think you can go from being in a coma to doing physical therapy to being up and walking around like nothing happened in 2-3 weeks.

I've always felt that we're not seeing anything remotely like "real time" in Mass Effect, that time is rather condenced to "edit out" the boring stuff that we wouldn't be interested in. Taking travel time into account, as well as the fact that Shepard does a lot of scouting missions (the scan and grab stuff) I'd say that Ash is down for a few months, at least. It's why she's so anxious to get back to work.

Judging by the Alliance News Network updates that were posted on the Bioware Blog, I'd say the invasion of Earth took place in late September, 2186. I personally think that ME3 takes place over a period of several months, in late 2186 and early 2187. I'd peg the coup attempt in either late December 2186 (perhaps between Christmas and New Years) or early to mid-January 2187.

Anyway, that's how it's lined up in my head canon. Even if I don't have exact times set, I sort of have a general idea of when it feels "right" for various things to take place.

[Aurora313]

Shepard's work with Cerberus lasted six months, from early 2185-late 2185. His time encarcerated is from late 2185-early 2186. The war ending late 2186-early 87.

[BP93]

CptData wrote...

BP93 wrote...

After playing some more of my femshep this morning, maybe it's best I don't have Ash. I'm playing as an infiltrator and Garrus, by my count, took at least 3 of my kills while I was reloading my Mantis on the past mission. Can only imagine how many Ash would be taking...

Garrus is a glass canon. He can't take much hits before going down while Ash is still standing. So better take her than Garrus. My Shep!Inflitrator and Ash were the best team ever. Especially when taking down Banshees. That Black Widow is my best friend - I still miss it in MP. But I'm quite lucky - I got the N7 Sniper rifle which is pretty much deadly.

My fave combo is said rifle and the Carnifex. Too bas Ashley can't wield a pistol - she would get it too.

Yeah that's the thing about an infiltrator though, I don't have to burn through my medigels to constantly revive Garrus or Liara, I can just cloak and go get them manually. Ash and James are absolute tanks though.

Giving Ash the black widow, I actually felt kind of sorry for Cerberus and the Reapers.

[Aurora313]

Shepard: Ash. Wanna do some damage?
Ashley: I'm always ready to kick ass, Skipper.
Shepard: Good. Here. Consider this your new best friend.
Ashley: A... a... M-9 Black Widow Sniper rifle?!
Shepard: Yup.
Ashley: How did you afford this!?
Shepard: Credit hording with some kleptomania thrown in.
Ashley: ... you are the best Commander ever.
Shepard: I'm sorry, I'm the best 'what' ever?
Ashley: Boyfriend ever.
Shepard: Copy that.

Modifié par Aurora313, 02 juillet 2012 - 02:46 .

[DWH1982]

Aurora313 wrote...

Shepard's work with Cerberus lasted six months, from early 2185-late 2185. His time encarcerated is from late 2185-early 2186. The war ending late 2186-early 87.

Arrival takes place in 2186, at least according to the timeline posted on the ME wiki. Also, two of the Mass Effect novels (Dietz's and the one before that) take place in 2186. Since there has to be enough time for both to happen, I'd be heistant to say that the Reaper war starts anytime before, I dunno... maybe June or July 2186?

The Alliance News Network updates posted on the Bioware Blog don't even have the Turian Hierarchy coming under attack from the Reapers until Sept 28th, 2186, so it seems more likely that the war starts in the last half of 2186 and ends sometime in early to mid 2187.

[Aurora313]

Also, have you noticed that Shepard tends to end his discussion with Ash with a playful 'Copy that.' in ME3?

Modifié par Aurora313, 02 juillet 2012 - 02:48 .

[DWH1982]

Aurora313 wrote...

Also, have you noticed that Shepard tends to end his discussion with Ash with a playful 'Copy that.' in ME3?

Hmmmm...? No.

Must keep an eye out for that in my current playthrough.

[Aurora313]

It only pops up during some topics in the hospitals, but he has that tendency.

[DWH1982]

I didn't even notice she calls him "Skipper" during the coup attempt until my second playthrough.

The first playthrough, I was too focused on the fact that they were pointing guns at each other.

[ColonelFacepalm]

DWH1982 wrote...

Someone states in game, I think it's Jacob, that most of the crew made it off.

The Normandy SR-1 was on its shakedown cruise when it went to Eden Prime. It likely wasn't fully staffed, and while I'm not 100% sure, I think someone (maybe Joker?) says as much in the early part of the game. Probably it picked up extra crew after the Battle of the Citadel, so it would be fully staffed.

Im not 100% sure but i think before you get to Eden Prime Shepard has a talk with Pressly about the shakedown run and Pressly says something like "and why is the crew full staffed? a skeleton crew would be enough and less risk of security leak" and Shepard say's "it makes sense to be fully staffed if something goes wrong".
SR2 has enough bunks for the crew plus the sleeper pods but SR1 has only the sleeper pods (8 or 10 i think) but it still feelslike half the crew is missing.

[Aurora313]

I am bummed about that. Will Fix it in Duet Effect. She'll start calling Shepard Skipper more often, and starts becoming more comfortable with calling him that when they sort out Horizon.

[DWH1982]

ColonelFacepalm wrote...

DWH1982 wrote...

Someone states in game, I think it's Jacob, that most of the crew made it off.

The Normandy SR-1 was on its shakedown cruise when it went to Eden Prime. It likely wasn't fully staffed, and while I'm not 100% sure, I think someone (maybe Joker?) says as much in the early part of the game. Probably it picked up extra crew after the Battle of the Citadel, so it would be fully staffed.

Im not 100% sure but i think before you get to Eden Prime Shepard has a talk with Pressly about the shakedown run and Pressly says something like "and why is the crew full staffed? a skeleton crew would be enough and less risk of security leak" and Shepard say's "it makes sense to be fully staffed if something goes wrong".
SR2 has enough bunks for the crew plus the sleeper pods but SR1 has only the sleeper pods (8 or 10 i think) but it still feelslike half the crew is missing.

D'OH! I think you're right.

I guess I was probably thinking of Pressly's conversation, but just getting mixed up about what he said.

[SJNKD]

I discovered something interesting, you know how Ashley usually talks about how about their relationship in romance dialogue with Shepard at the cafe, I managed to get Shepard to say all that. It may not be interesting to all but I enjoyed it.