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[krukow]

BadExamp1e wrote...

krukow wrote...

BadExamp1e wrote...

iSousek wrote...

Two quick questions

1. Can someone create a 'General Overview' (or whatever you wanna call it) topic in PP group. Simply put all the content that was agreed upon in it and whenever a new content is decided simply edit it into that topic. You can also include information about what content still needs to be decided and polished.
That way you create a reference point for whoever wants to work in it.

2. Is there any way to connect with Kaiden fans? You know, to shout louder at the BW's doors

Yeah I agree. Youth or Data seem like the folks you need to ask, though.

I don't know how successful that would be. Most Kaidan fans got what they wanted and more. Even the gay Shep's who romanced Kaidan got the "I love you" they wanted with the EC. Sadly, it was just Ash that got the short stick. Careless.

Is it bad that I'm replaying ME1, and I'm taking Ash and Kaidan into Chora's Den, and when they have the back and forth ending with Ash telling Kaidan he doesn't understand women, I giggle a little bit?

I headcanoned it, so that Ashley always had a sneaking suspicion that Kaidan was also playing for the other team, if you get my drift (hur hur). While my poor Shepard onthe other hand, was completely clueless.

It was awkward that it all just came out of the closet during the dinner date.

You have a playthrough where you saved Kaidan?

...

*edit, I GET TO TOP ASH!*

Modifié par krukow, 05 juillet 2012 - 09:08 .

[BadExamp1e]

Yep. Only with my FemShep, though. My man-Shep belongs to Ash.

But I would happily chuck any other squadmate at the bomb on Virmire, if it allowed me to keep both Ashley and Kaidan.

I just watched the awkward "coming out" on youtube. It's about time Bioware added a gay option, but they shouldn't have turned Kaidan bisexual at the end of a trilogy.

[krukow]

Agree about Kaidan.

Also, even my femshep saved Ashley.  I think I'm whipped.

By a video game character...

Modifié par krukow, 05 juillet 2012 - 09:17 .

[BadExamp1e]

I agree. It would have been even worst if they decided to do the same with Ashley. It's OOC. And many people hate her for being a traditionalist and religious - well go ahead. That's who she is, and she's confident with that. She'll follow her own path and let others do the same. She doesn't try to convert anyone. Thankfully, Bioware seemed somewhat aware of the kind of character that Chris had established in ME1. Every little side of Ashley showed in ME3 (she even made ass jokes ). There just wasn't enough of it compared to some other LI's.

Dragon Age 2 was the wrong way to do it. Personally would have preferred it if the characters had preferences when it came to that sort of thing. Oh, because you know, everyone does.

Modifié par BadExamp1e, 05 juillet 2012 - 09:26 .

[krukow]

BadExamp1e wrote...
Dragon Age 2 was the wrong way to do it. Personally would have preferred it if the characters had preferences when it came to that sort of thing. Oh, because you know, everyone does.

This.  I completely agree.  I would like to think that in future bioware games there will be straight, gay, and bi characters because that's what bioware has always exceled at, creating real characters for you to grow attached to.  When everyone's bi, they just become malleable mush...

[BadExamp1e]

The DA team work with a tighter budget. They'll probably make everyone bisexual again because of that. Everyone being bisexual is unrealistic to me, however.

Isabela being bisexual was great, fully supported it. I wouldn't expect anything less. The others should have had preferences, IMO. Ten years pass by, and if you're not in a romance with those characters they don't ever find love with anyone else, but with Hawke. It made them bland to me, like their sole purpose was to be romanced by Hawke (either gender) so long as they got a piece. I felt nothing for those characters except for Isabela and a little for Varric, who wasn't even a romance option (good!). Hope they do things a bit better (and interesting) with their next game when it comes to the love interests.

I love that Jack isn't interested in FemShep despite being with a girl before. It's not her thing. And I like that Traynor shuts down ManShep so hard in ME3, if he pushes for something more. I like that Ash mentions the guys in her past and only flirts/shows interest in men. Cortez having a husband, and being only interested in men - good too. That's the way it should be. The characters are stronger for it, IMO.

[CptData]

scotiej wrote...

www.youtube.com/watch

Oh God, the feels...

Thanks for sharing this.

It pretty much covers all the jazz why I still love Ashley.

[Dannycni]

Whoa Example, I can't believe you have a play through where you saved Kaidan! It makes sense if you're a femshep but you struck me like the sort of person who would always save Ash no matter what and see her as a 'sister in arms' to a fem shep.

To be honest though if, IF, I ever did a femshep play through (I'd miss John too much) I would probably romance Kaidan and so maybe have to leave Ash behind. Although I hope it never comes to that, I just can't bear it

[Td1984]

All of my Sheps (2 male, 4 female) saved Ash. I've briefly considered saving Kaidan before, but never come close to actually doing so.

[BadExamp1e]

Oh, sure. I've played through the whole trilogy with her. I roleplay pretty hard, so I saved Kaidan. There was no real reason to save Ashley on Virmire for my FemShep (Rudy can give you the list), where as my ManShep had fallen for Ashley and had started a relationship with her. It's my Paragade John Shepard that has the connection like-no-other with Ash.

I like to think of my FemShep and Ash like sisters. Except Ash looks up to FemShep like an older sister, since she never had one herself. They've had a few, but one memorable moment between Jane and Ashley when they were talking about men, and FemShep was dissing them, which caused Ash to say, "Eh. They have their uses ma'am." lol.

My ManShep and Kaidan where never that close.

Modifié par BadExamp1e, 06 juillet 2012 - 12:09 .

[DWH1982]

Yeah. I'm sad to say Kaidan will probalby never make it past Virmire for me.

I was actually thinking about doing a FemShep playthrough where she's somewhat insecure and emotionally immature when it comes to LIs (I'm thinking she's Earthborn, so her past has something to do with it). She'd romance Kaidan, but get p*ssed at him after Horizon and move on to someone else.

The thing is - she'd move on to Jacob. Then she'd treat Kaidan like a jerk on Mars, and either refuse to visit him in the hospital or treat him like a jerk again when she does. Which would lead to him being killed during the coup. Then, of course, she'd meet up with Jacob and find out that he's moved on...

I think that Shepard would be more than willing to pick an option that leads to death at the end.

Modifié par DWH1982, 06 juillet 2012 - 12:18 .

[BadExamp1e]

I wanted to romance Garrus, but it's so forced in ME2 - it's almost not right. Besides, I doubt my FemShep would be attracted to him to begin with, or push like that, and Garrus is too much of a bro anyway. Tali and Garrus always end up together in my games.

Sad thing is, straight FemShep gets royally screwed over when in comes to love interests in ME3. James Vega should have been an option. The way I see it, is that it's either Kaidan or FOREVER ALONE.

But yeah, I've saved Kaidan. He has so much more to say than Ash, which eventually pisses me off. Ash is a mute when you get her back... lame. :/

[Dannycni]

BadExamp1e wrote...

But yeah, I've saved Kaidan. He has so much more to say than Ash, which eventually pisses me off. Ash is a mute when you get her back... lame. :/

But she's so. damn. hot!

http://desmond.image...jpg&res=landing

[DWH1982]

http://desmond.image...jpg&res=landing

Ash: Well, hello there, Skipper.
Shepard: Ash... What are you doing?
Ash: *walks over to Shepard and begins rubbing his shoulders* I'm not sure what you mean.
Shepard: You know that uniform drives me crazy. And I have to do these mission reports for Hackett.
Ash: You're a big boy. Don't let me interrupt you. *begins kissing Shepard's neck*
Shepard: Damn it... I'm not going to get these done on time, am I?
Ash: Mmmmm.

[Spitfire017]

Rudy Lis wrote...
How many Victoria Cross or Medal of Honor or Golden Star recipients do you know? Just wondering.

Personally or people I've read about?

Rudy Lis wrote...
Of course, maybe clash between two SoT recipients could be interesting, but look from another angle - superior talking with subordinate, both awarded for personal valour (that's the awards for, not ranks - they reflect leadership skills). And if former commander of your former commander has reasons to kill the latter...

 

The thing is, the interaction would also be based upon the Paragon and Renegade dialouge options that players could take. I even want a renegade interupt to be thrown in there.

Rudy Lis wrote...

Spitfire017 wrote...

For PG...thats really the only leadership position anyone knows of when it comes to ME's marine corp. He/she would be a NCO, cause ME doesn't need any more officers.<_<

Is PG actually some leadership position? On Basic - maybe, what about regular service? Just some crafty guy responsible for ammo (irrelevant in ME1 times, barely adequate due cretinic thermal clips distribution system) and food. Now sure for water - haven't seen jerry cans, camelbaks or something. Recycling water a-la Dune?

In the PP (if I remember correctly) we gathered the position could be the Allianc equivalent of a Platoon Sergeant or Plt Warrant. But, Bioware, like always, doesn't give a lot for us to go on.<_<

Rudy Lis wrote...

Spitfire017 wrote...

But something....ANYTHING, even saying Ash completed Officer Training 101, would be some improvement.

Not sure what is OT 101, but I look at this from another angle: personally I would have much greater respect to highly skilled NCO than to such jumpee as ME3 Ashley. Even Kaidan, though his promotion is slightly better. That's why I don't get removal of Warrant Officers (and their counterparts) - John 117 is Master Chief. Not Major General, Master Chief Petty Officer.

OT 101 was a bit of a joke on my part.
Also, I understand where you are coming from. However, Ash in ME3 is really sexy so and in a very tight uniform. So, as a soldier under her command, I wouldn't really mind. This would probably be what would happen most of the time during plt training:
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Hey, can you blame me? I'm 21 years old infantry grunt (human male). 

But, on a serious note, ME has too many officers for my liking. Where are all the Alliance NCO's? They don't actually get a fair representation in the ME universe, except for some back ground guys or dead guys.

Rudy Lis wrote...

Spitfire017 wrote...

Yes. If we are ever going to get Bioware to notice us and see our demand for more Ash content.

We need Corps grade artillery. 150+mm.

I am sure I can get some Canadian howitzers and Leopard tanks...its not like we use them now much anyway.

krukow wrote...

Batlass8 wrote...



@DWH: You mean I go away and there's no longer Virmire Survivor solidarity? Say
it ain't so!

They're kind of touchy that Ash is in all of the advertisements (the tv ads,
the EC announcemtne banner, etc).  Even the femshep ones.

I'd prolly feel the same if everything had Kaidan in it...

I find it sad in any case. I always saw Ash and Kaidan fans as a united front
for a long time. Most Kaidan fans I bumped into were also Ash fans, and visa
versa.
I guess I was wrong. Please someone prove me wrong again?

Modifié par Spitfire017, 06 juillet 2012 - 12:58 .

[BadExamp1e]

And you're so damn shallow lol

Oj.

Sure, in ME3? Yep. In ME1? Not so much lol. But yeah, as I said, it's my Shepard who has the connection with her. Both of them are the sole survivors of their unit, then Virmire... I imagine that's something that both Shepard and Ash want to make worthwhile. They wouldn't just quit on each other. Ashley sending her e-mail in ME3 was like saying "we can fix this". After all, Kaidan gave his life for what they had. And Ash said it herself, he died because of "us" which is true in my game.

She would of felt the heat of that blast if it wasn't for her outrageous flirting attempts and ass appreciation jokes with her Commanding Officer.

[hellcat420]

have never saved kaiden or w/e his name is. he just seems like a bit of a d-bag to me, and how can you let a hottie die to save a douche(especially when ash has the personality that she does)?  tbh if it was an option i would have saved them both but since its not the dude has got to die!


had to add a bit.

Modifié par hellcat420, 06 juillet 2012 - 12:58 .

[DWH1982]

I like Kaidan. Virmire wasn't fun for me.

[BP93]

Tough love then, huh?

Flirt or get nuked.

[Spitfire017]

BadExamp1e wrote...

And you're so damn shallow lol

Oj.

Sure, in ME3? Yep. In ME1? Not so much lol. But yeah, as I said, it's my Shepard who has the connection with her. Both of them are the sole survivors of their unit, then Virmire... I imagine that's something that both Shepard and Ash want to make worthwhile. They wouldn't just quit on each other. Ashley sending her e-mail in ME3 was like saying "we can fix this". After all, Kaidan gave his life for what they had. And Ash said it herself, he died because of "us" which is true in my game.

She would of felt the heat of that blast if it wasn't for her outrageous flirting attempts and ass appreciation jokes with her Commanding Officer.

My Shepard and her first hit it off casue they have a lot of things in common, and it flowed from there. But, Virmire remains both a dark shadow on their relationship and something they find strength in. I think/roleplay the same way when it comes to Kaidan dying on Virmire, and neither Shep or Ash wants to disgrace his sacrifice. So, they work at it. Not to say that they don't love eachother, but its just another secondary reason to keep the relationship going.

[Badpie]

 Post ME3 fic updated.  Here it is.  How is everyone tonight?  

As for Kaidan's death, SHepard knows it was because of his feelings for Ash, but she doesn't know that.  He looked her right in the eye and lied about it because he didn't want her to bear that burden of guilt.  /angst.

Modifié par Badpie, 06 juillet 2012 - 01:02 .

[BadExamp1e]

BP93 wrote...

Tough love then, huh?

Flirt or get nuked.

Damn, right! Can't handle the heat get the hell out of the kitchen.

I kid. Yeah, but it wasn't just the flirting obviously. My Shepard and Ash had a lot in common, more so than any other character to date.

Yeah, Spitfire. Virmire remains the biggest part of the game. Sadly, many players forget this. Naturally, it would leave a big impact on anyone leaving a comrade to die, and for love too. I think I would at least try to sort out that relationship considering what I scarified for it. Virmire ties my Shepard and Ashley together.

[DWH1982]

Eh. Ash always goes with the salarians in my playthrough. Edwin Shepard went after Ash because he thought he was rescuing her and a group of highly trained STG operatives.

Whether his feelings about Ash influenced his decision on some level that he wasn't aware of - maybe.

[Spitfire017]

My Shepard knew exactly what he was doing when he went to save Ashley, while all his training and all of his military experience combined was screaming at him to save the bomb, and therefore Kaidan.

He made a tactical decision based upon emotions, and my Shepard has to live with that for the rest of his life. In the process he sacrificed his best friend. A small piece inside him still has anger towards Ash for making him do that, though he does love her and would sacrifice another person to save her if forced into it again.

[Spitfire017]

Badpie wrote...

 Post ME3 fic updated.  Here it is.  How is everyone tonight?  

As for Kaidan's death, SHepard knows it was because of his feelings for Ash, but she doesn't know that.  He looked her right in the eye and lied about it because he didn't want her to bear that burden of guilt.  /angst.

Finally!!!! I thought this new chapter would never come!!! jk:D

BTW, I have read most of your Shepley fiction, and I got to say, your are one hell of a writer and are great at writing Ashley herself. Keep up the good work.

And, for Ashley knowing about Kaidan's sacrifice. She is smart, and I feel she would have geussed it anyway.