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[BadExamp1e]

Spitfire017 wrote...

My Shepard knew exactly what he was doing when he went to save Ashley, while all his training and all of his military experience combined was screaming at him to save the bomb, and therefore Kaidan.

He made a tactical decision based upon emotions, and my Shepard has to live with that for the rest of his life. In the process he sacrificed his best friend. A small piece inside him still has anger towards Ash for making him do that, though he does love her and would sacrifice another person to save her if forced into it again.

Pretty much this. I imagine the possiblity of losing Ashley hit my Shepard square in the face during that moment. It's also when he realized how deep his feelings for her were.
Same boat?

Since I'm top, I command all of you who haven't seen this video to watch it: www.youtube.com/watch

And top Ash:

Modifié par BadExamp1e, 06 juillet 2012 - 01:27 .

[Batlass8]

I go away and miss a new Badpie fic? WTH? Apparently I can never leave again.

[BP93]

Badpie wrote...

 Post ME3 fic updated.  Here it is.  How is everyone tonight?  

As for Kaidan's death, SHepard knows it was because of his feelings for Ash, but she doesn't know that.  He looked her right in the eye and lied about it because he didn't want her to bear that burden of guilt.  /angst.

You spoil us. 

[Dannycni]

Example I'm not shallow, I loved Ash in ME1! But I know what I like and I like what I see!!!

Example that vid^

Modifié par Dannycni, 06 juillet 2012 - 01:36 .

[Badpie]

Spitfire017 wrote...

Badpie wrote...

 Post ME3 fic updated.  Here it is.  How is everyone tonight?  

As for Kaidan's death, SHepard knows it was because of his feelings for Ash, but she doesn't know that.  He looked her right in the eye and lied about it because he didn't want her to bear that burden of guilt.  /angst.

Finally!!!! I thought this new chapter would never come!!! jk:D

BTW, I have read most of your Shepley fiction, and I got to say, your are one hell of a writer and are great at writing Ashley herself. Keep up the good work.

And, for Ashley knowing about Kaidan's sacrifice. She is smart, and I feel she would have geussed it anyway.

Thank you! I'm excited to be able to write something post ME3.  

In my head, Ashley feels guilt over Kaidan.  She wondered if it was because of Shepard's feelings for her, but she believed him when he said it wasn't. She had to or she would have gone crazy.

[krukow]

I'm the same. It doesn't matter where she is (bomb or gun towers) , Christophe (stupid letter limit) Shepard always saves Ashley. If he had to choose between the rest of the crew and Ash, it would be a quick decision.

He's miss Garrus though.

[BadExamp1e]

If Shepard saved Ashley over the whole Normandy crew, I think he would be sleeping on the sofa for a while. And I doubt Ashley would be able to talk or look at him for quite some time either.

@Danny; You know I was joking right? :l

And I don't blame you lol

[Dannycni]

No I know Example lol

Btw that vid was quite beautiful

[BP93]

Speaking of Normandy crew, When Ash confronted Shepard about whatever happened to Dr. Chakwas, he grows silent.

Lets just put it this way, Chakwas and Co. didnt have enough money for an escort service.

[Spitfire017]

@Badpie: Good point.

Anybody here interesting in playing some ME3 multiplayer in the near future (on xbox). I am not a big MP fan (the last time I played COD MP was ages ago) but would love to play a few matches with people who I know of, instead of complete strangers.

[DWH1982]

I've never brought Dr. Michel along. Is she that different from Chakwas?

[Badpie]

Given the choice between Ash and the entire crew my Shep would have saved the crew. Heartbreaking, and either way he couldn't live with himself - but he's just that guy. Though I don't know, maybe he would panic and save Ash. He's only human and flawed. The decision with Kaidan was one that he CAN rationalize as a tactical decision, but in his heart he knows it wasn't. And he feels it. Boy does he feel it.

[BP93]

@DWH No, not really. You still get the side mission with Tactus. She has a brother on the Citadel you never see though. And a lot of lip gloss. Lots of lip gloss.

[BadExamp1e]

Sure is, Danny. It turned quite a few of us into big saps earlier.

And my xbox GT is my username "BadExamp1e" I haven't been playing any MP since yesterday because my headset (turtle beaches) went kinda haywire on me.

Modifié par BadExamp1e, 06 juillet 2012 - 01:55 .

[krukow]

Badpie wrote...

Given the choice between Ash and the entire crew my Shep would have saved the crew. Heartbreaking, and either way he couldn't live with himself - but he's just that guy. Though I don't know, maybe he would panic and save Ash. He's only human and flawed. The decision with Kaidan was one that he CAN rationalize as a tactical decision, but in his heart he knows it wasn't. And he feels it. Boy does he feel it.

Well, and that's the point.  I'm not saying it's the right decision or that anyone would agree, but in that moment, it's the choice he'd make.  There are things he can accept in this war, and things he cannot.  Losing Ash is the latter.  To be fair, my Shep has never had to rationalize his choice to himself.  He knows exactly what he did, and he knows why.  It was his decision, he's the one that has to live with it.  And to quote Sisko
"I can live with it."

I just switched from third person to first, but it was worth it to quote that episode.

[Dannycni]

I agree krukow but then again I'm an idiot

If that was a decision you had to make at somepoint though and I did a few play throughs I'd definitely save Ash over the crew in at least 1. 

[hellcat420]

ash is my shepards big weakness. he would fight reapers by throwing infants out of an airlock at them if it means he could save ashley(which is also why he doesnt like having her on the ship very much).

Modifié par hellcat420, 06 juillet 2012 - 02:01 .

[LazyTechGuy]

BadExamp1e wrote...

Since I'm top, I command all of you who haven't seen this video to watch it: www.youtube.com/watch

Amazing video. Saw it on Reddit. Great music too. 

[Badpie]

Stupid double post.

Modifié par Badpie, 06 juillet 2012 - 02:03 .

[Badpie]

krukow wrote...

Badpie wrote...

Given the choice between Ash and the entire crew my Shep would have saved the crew. Heartbreaking, and either way he couldn't live with himself - but he's just that guy. Though I don't know, maybe he would panic and save Ash. He's only human and flawed. The decision with Kaidan was one that he CAN rationalize as a tactical decision, but in his heart he knows it wasn't. And he feels it. Boy does he feel it.

Well, and that's the point.  I'm not saying it's the right decision or that anyone would agree, but in that moment, it's the choice he'd make.  There are things he can accept in this war, and things he cannot.  Losing Ash is the latter.  To be fair, my Shep has never had to rationalize his choice to himself.  He knows exactly what he did, and he knows why.  It was his decision, he's the one that has to live with it.  And to quote Sisko
"I can live with it."

I just switched from third person to first, but it was worth it to quote that episode.

Yes.  And I think things were different for my Shep in ME3.  It became personal for him.  For the first time ever, this was a personal fight.  It had been about everyone else, about duty, but ME3 made it personal.  For my Shepard it was the grand scale of things that he couldn't handle.  He had to put a face on winning the war.  That face was Ash.  So on Mars when he almost lost her he nearly broke down.  You saw how for the first time ever Liara actually had to FORCE him to be present, to think about the mission.  And then, for me the end of the EC when he makes her leave is literally his last effort.  If he believes that she's safe, even for a little longer he wins.  And he doesn't have to worry about her.  Her being safe was the most important thing.

[BadExamp1e]

Danny. If you're an idiot, I'm an idiot (LOL NOTEBOOK).

Throwing infants out the airlock? Hmm. That's going a bit too far. Ash would never forgive my Shepard if he did that lol. But I can agree on Ashley being Shepard's weakness, but she also keeps him from going insane so it all works out.

[Spitfire017]

BadExamp1e wrote...

Sure is, Danny. It turned quite a few of us into big saps earlier.

And my xbox GT is my username "BadExamp1e" I haven't been playing any MP since yesterday because my headset (turtle beaches) went kinda haywire on me.

Atleast you have a head seat. I got nothing!!!

I am going to add you as a xbox friend, if thats okay?

[krukow]

Badpie wrote...

krukow wrote...

Badpie wrote...

Given the choice between Ash and the entire crew my Shep would have saved the crew. Heartbreaking, and either way he couldn't live with himself - but he's just that guy. Though I don't know, maybe he would panic and save Ash. He's only human and flawed. The decision with Kaidan was one that he CAN rationalize as a tactical decision, but in his heart he knows it wasn't. And he feels it. Boy does he feel it.

Well, and that's the point.  I'm not saying it's the right decision or that anyone would agree, but in that moment, it's the choice he'd make.  There are things he can accept in this war, and things he cannot.  Losing Ash is the latter.  To be fair, my Shep has never had to rationalize his choice to himself.  He knows exactly what he did, and he knows why.  It was his decision, he's the one that has to live with it.  And to quote Sisko
"I can live with it."

I just switched from third person to first, but it was worth it to quote that episode.

Yes.  And I think things were different for my Shep in ME3.  It became personal for him.  For the first time ever, this was a personal fight.  It had been about everyone else, about duty, but ME3 made it personal.  For my Shepard it was the grand scale of things that he couldn't handle.  He had to put a face on winning the war.  That face was Ash.  So on Mars when he almost lost her he nearly broke down.  You saw how for the first time ever Liara actually had to FORCE him to be present, to think about the mission.  And then, for me the end of the EC when he makes her leave is literally his last effort.  If he believes that she's safe, even for a little longer he wins.  And he doesn't have to worry about her.  Her being safe was the most important thing.

I completely agree about the EC.  Shepard doesn't call for that evac because it's the prudent thing to do, he calls for it because he knows what may be required of him, and he's prepared to do it, but he needs to do it knowing Ashley survives (he actually does say that if you don't take an LI, that he needs to know someone will survive this.  For my Shep, that someone has to be Ash).  It's the same reason my Shepard survives.  Not because he's afraid/unwilling to die, but because he wants to come back to Ash.  Because she deserves that.  Because any victory where she winds up alone is lessened.

Also, that remember me vid is amazing.  Even if it didn't involve the Ash romance it would be great, but with the Ashmance...

Modifié par krukow, 06 juillet 2012 - 02:10 .

[BadExamp1e]

Spitfire017 wrote...

BadExamp1e wrote...

Sure is, Danny. It turned quite a few of us into big saps earlier.

And my xbox GT is my username "BadExamp1e" I haven't been playing any MP since yesterday because my headset (turtle beaches) went kinda haywire on me.

Atleast you have a head seat. I got nothing!!!

I am going to add you as a xbox friend, if thats okay?

Yeah, that's fine.

You good with silver?

[Dannycni]

Example we can all be idiots !!!!

Plus yea babies going out the airlock might annoy Ashley a tad saying as how much she loves family and probably the idea of someday having kids Now if it was babies like starbrat then I'd say definiteyl do it!!!

I'd play Spitfire if I had gold...or was any good...and it wasn't 0309 over here