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MegaBadExample wrote...

Nah, my Shep doesn't do poetry. I think in ME3 he'll just go all out and play her a song on a great white piano, confessing his never-ending love oh so cheese-ly. She'll like that.

(lol)


How on earth will he fit it in his captains quarters, aw hell they don't need a bed, ( ''on the floor and give me twenty'') Posted Image

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Mr. Brainheart wrote...

MegaBadExample wrote...

Nah, my Shep doesn't do poetry. I think in ME3 he'll just go all out and play her a song on a great white piano, confessing his never-ending love oh so cheese-ly. She'll like that.

(lol)


How on earth will he fit it in his captains quarters, aw hell they don't need a bed, ( ''on the floor and give me twenty'') Posted Image


Forget the floor! They could do it on the piano. Shep will make sure it's an extra sterdy paino.

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MegaBadExample wrote...

Mr. Brainheart wrote...

MegaBadExample wrote...

Nah, my Shep doesn't do poetry. I think in ME3 he'll just go all out and play her a song on a great white piano, confessing his never-ending love oh so cheese-ly. She'll like that.

(lol)


How on earth will he fit it in his captains quarters, aw hell they don't need a bed, ( ''on the floor and give me twenty'') Posted Image


Forget the floor! They could do it on the piano. Shep will make sure it's an extra sterdy paino.


Ehh, that's an unusual way of testing a piano, sir...You're scaring away custumers!

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MegaBadExample wrote...

Yeah....well....I speak spanish amigo, and Ash is a sassy latino (lol)

So...wait your Shepard speaks Dutch and English?


Actually it'd be "sassy latina"

You can't re-impress Ash without proper grammar! 

Women love grammar, after all :lol:

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Cossack72 wrote...

MegaBadExample wrote...

Yeah....well....I speak spanish amigo, and Ash is a sassy latino (lol)

So...wait your Shepard speaks Dutch and English?


Actually it'd be "sassy latina"

You can't re-impress Ash without proper grammar! 

Women love grammar, after all :lol:


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@Mega, your Shep better be good at playing (on) the piano!

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I am sure that my male shepard and ash will find a proper way to connsecrate my cabin on normandy SR-2. LOL

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ADLegend21 wrote...

@Indigo- that's what I want.I'm surprised that people have no problem with someone having a comic that say "oh yeah I romane dher eventhough I didn't play the game, rather than an all new romance since that would, in theory, cheapen the "faithful" aspect. Not complaining, just making an observation, I'm just completely against the "you started the franchise at ME3 so yo don't get to romance X charater."


That's what those of us who argue for the faithful to have a unique romance want!! *facepalm* B/c, in essence, it's saying they romanced Ash and were faithful to her as well. 

We just don't want the romance in ME3 to be catered to the new crowd, not that they shouldn't have a shot!

obviously we misunderstood each other. 

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xxSgt_Reed_24xx wrote...

ADLegend21 wrote...

@Indigo- that's what I want.I'm surprised that people have no problem with someone having a comic that say "oh yeah I romane dher eventhough I didn't play the game, rather than an all new romance since that would, in theory, cheapen the "faithful" aspect. Not complaining, just making an observation, I'm just completely against the "you started the franchise at ME3 so yo don't get to romance X charater."


That's what those of us who argue for the faithful to have a unique romance want!! *facepalm* B/c, in essence, it's saying they romanced Ash and were faithful to her as well. 

We just don't want the romance in ME3 to be catered to the new crowd, not that they shouldn't have a shot!

obviously we misunderstood each other. 

ahh! I wish you'd said it that way in the beginning! Of course no one wants the new crowd to get ALL of the attention. I'm saying I ahve faith in a unique romance for BOTH parties. the faithful get a unique romance path and so do the new people and S/S romance (if it's confirmed for Ash). I'd take a guess that the new romance would be like two firends finally deciding to date and they'd reminisce about the past and such. The returning romance would be more fluffy, possibly witht he post SM cuddling and Captains cabin visits and such and the S/S would have a "you should have told me sooner" sort of vibe to it like a "finally" thing. At least that's how I'd do it.Posted Image

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Mr. Brainheart wrote...

MegaBadExample wrote...

Nah, my Shep doesn't do poetry. I think in ME3 he'll just go all out and play her a song on a great white piano, confessing his never-ending love oh so cheese-ly. She'll like that.

(lol)


How on earth will he fit it in his captains quarters, aw hell they don't need a bed, ( ''on the floor and give me twenty'') Posted Image

Edit: Ooh, my first ToP Ash! (my chance for shamelees self promotion Posted Image)

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I think the discussion is rather: Should Shepard be able to newly romance Ashley or only be allowed to if he romanced her in the first game; the player and which games he has played will not be the issue. since everyone will be able to pick decisions for the first two games, including choosing a LI, like in the poor genesis comic. If you look at life, sometimes it takes people longer to realize, they have deeper feelings for each other, so I say it should be an option. Especially Shepard's death can be a powerful emotional trigger to realize those deeper feelings a little late.
 
Of course that means different romance paths and if you rekindle an existing relationship it should be different and deeper, but that doesn't mean, it should be impossible to start a fresh romance as well. And don't come with the whole "ressources" argument, because there is a lot of time left and even if the delayed it for gimmicks like multiplayer or kinect, the writing team will hardly be involved in this full-time, so they should have the time to write different romances for different circumstances in a way that everbody will be satisfied.

Again, I want the most epic love story for Shepard and Ashley, but I don't want it because I have earned it by being faithful; I am faithful because I want to be and not because I expect a special reward for it. People who love each other will choose to treat the subject of their affection specially and may sometimes label it a reward for the fun of it, but being faithful for the reward is just cheap, imho.

Love has its own rules and sometimes it just happens and it doesn't matter how long you have been in love, for you to want to treat the one you love specially. Love may come in all flavours, shapes and sizes, but that doesn't mean, that one kind is worth more than the other.

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Wow.That was....Absolutely beautiful.

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@elektrego, Well said! I agree with that, love the pic with the poetry too.

@ADL, thanks! I'll probably make a deviant page sometime in..the future..

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dude that was amazing i agree

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ADLegend21 wrote...

@Indigo- that's what I want.I'm surprised that people have no problem with someone having a comic that say "oh yeah I romanced her even though I didn't play the game," rather than an all new romance since that would, in theory, cheapen the "faithful" aspect. Not complaining, just making an observation, I'm just completely against the "you started the franchise at ME3 so you don't get to romance X charater."


Alright, now I am confused. You said --in not unexplict terms-- that you want a romance to a available independently from ME1 imports and Genesis for Ashley in Mass Effect 3, yet here you appear to be saying that "that's what I want" in response to me not wanting an all-new romance in Mass Effect 3 when players can simply access it from the Genesis 2.0. Perhaps you could put it in clearer wording?

Operating under the assumption that you're still of the mind for an all-new romance  --which I think is logical-- I thought I had made it clear that players will already be able to romance ME1 characters in ME3? The feature has already been confirmed to be in there, it is just not coming in the form of an all-new romance. Like I said; you will be able to thanks to Genesis 2.0.

Objecting to an all new romance for reasons that it would cheapen the imported romance is a subjective issue. However, an objective issue with an all-new romance is that it would draw resources away from making the imported romance all that it could be. Granted, this has been discussed to great lengths already, so just let me make it clear that the aforementioned issue is my chief problem in this particular subject.

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elektrego wrote...

I think the discussion is rather: Should Shepard be able to newly romance Ashley or only be allowed to if he romanced her in the first game; the player and which games he has played will not be the issue. since everyone will be able to pick decisions for the first two games, including choosing a LI, like in the poor genesis comic. If you look at life, sometimes it takes people longer to realize, they have deeper feelings for each other, so I say it should be an option. Especially Shepard's death can be a powerful emotional trigger to realize those deeper feelings a little late.
 
Of course that means different romance paths and if you rekindle an existing relationship it should be different and deeper, but that doesn't mean, it should be impossible to start a fresh romance as well. And don't come with the whole "ressources" argument, because there is a lot of time left and even if the delayed it for gimmicks like multiplayer or kinect, the writing team will hardly be involved in this full-time, so they should have the time to write different romances for different circumstances in a way that everbody will be satisfied.

Again, I want the most epic love story for Shepard and Ashley, but I don't want it because I have earned it by being faithful; I am faithful because I want to be and not because I expect a special reward for it. People who love each other will choose to treat the subject of their affection specially and may sometimes label it a reward for the fun of it, but being faithful for the reward is just cheap, imho.

Love has its own rules and sometimes it just happens and it doesn't matter how long you have been in love, for you to want to treat the one you love specially. Love may come in all flavours, shapes and sizes, but that doesn't mean, that one kind is worth more than the other.

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IndigoWolfe wrote...

ADLegend21 wrote...

@Indigo- that's what I want.I'm surprised that people have no problem with someone having a comic that say "oh yeah I romanced her even though I didn't play the game," rather than an all new romance since that would, in theory, cheapen the "faithful" aspect. Not complaining, just making an observation, I'm just completely against the "you started the franchise at ME3 so you don't get to romance X charater."


Alright, now I am confused. You said --in not unexplict terms-- that you want a romance to a available independently from ME1 imports and Genesis for Ashley in Mass Effect 3, yet here you appear to be saying that "that's what I want" in response to me not wanting an all-new romance in Mass Effect 3 when players can simply access it from the Genesis 2.0. Perhaps you could put it in clearer wording?

Operating under the assumption that you're still of the mind for an all-new romance  --which I think is logical-- I thought I had made it clear that players will already be able to romance ME1 characters in ME3? The feature has already been confirmed to be in there, it is just not coming in the form of an all-new romance. Like I said; you will be able to thanks to Genesis 2.0.

Objecting to an all new romance for reasons that it would cheapen the imported romance is a subjective issue. However, an objective issue with an all-new romance is that it would draw resources away from making the imported romance all that it could be. Granted, this has been discussed to great lengths already, so just let me make it clear that the aforementioned issue is my chief problem in this particular subject.

no no no no no. I wondered why people weren't objecting to a "faithful" romance achieved through genesis, since it was basically just making Ashley's ME1 romance a check mark instead of having experienced it, but that they were objecting to a romance for preiviously platonic Ashley and Shepard and FemShepley. didn't mean to confuse you.Posted Image

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something inttersting I noticed. As femshep you can tlak to both Kaidan and Ashley, insead of just Ashley as male shep since all Kaidan says is "glad to see you're okay commander"

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ADLegend21 wrote...

something inttersting I noticed. As femshep you can tlak to both Kaidan and Ashley, insead of just Ashley as male shep since all Kaidan says is "glad to see you're okay commander"


I thought that was strange at first too then I realized that Ash is the new recruit, who brings a little more story and exposition with her.

....Or they just didn't give a crap about what Kaidan said to manshep.  

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Badpie wrote...

ADLegend21 wrote...

something inttersting I noticed. As femshep you can tlak to both Kaidan and Ashley, insead of just Ashley as male shep since all Kaidan says is "glad to see you're okay commander"


I thought that was strange at first too then I realized that Ash is the new recruit, who brings a little more story and exposition with her.

....Or they just didn't give a crap about what Kaidan said to manshep.  

yeah wouldn't be the first time Kaidan got the shaft on Mshep playthroughs.Posted Image

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yeah wouldn't be the first time Kaidan got the shaft on Mshep playthroughs.Posted Image


There's a crude joke there ... but Ash is giving me a look that says, "Don't even ..." Posted Image

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yeah wouldn't be the first time Kaidan got the shaft on Mshep playthroughs.Posted Image

Nothing to worry, ME3 will more than make it up for ManShep with the new romance option :devil:

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PMC65 wrote...

ADLegend21 wrote...

yeah wouldn't be the first time Kaidan got the shaft on Mshep playthroughs.Posted Image


There's a crude joke there ... but Ash is giving me a look that says, "Don't even ..." Posted Image

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You read my mind....

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Ashley needs us!

Best Romance?

Best squadmate?

And thanks for the kind feedback on my previous post.

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elektrego wrote...

Ashley needs us!

Best Romance?

Best squadmate?

And thanks for the kind feedback on my previous post.

gah...I can't vote in this...