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Lt. Commander Ashley Williams thread: "Don't 'Ash' me!" We're Back Baby!


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I don't see why all this matters anyway. Ashley is straight, always has been.

It's safe to assume that Ashley is quite a religious person, yes. Apparently she prayers everyday, and she still believes in a God and a heaven despite it being almost 200 years in the future from now. She still keeps her faith despite solid facts telling her otherwise. It leads me to believe that she's been raised that way. And it's okay. She' doesn't try to convert anyone else so let her do her.
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I've received three PM's from three different people telling they agreed with me re: s/s thread.

I'm the voice of reason, people. Take notes. =P

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Yea, you're right Example it doesn't matter cause she's straight in game but after 2 pages ago and with some other moaning I was reading online (not saying people were moaning here but some stuff on the other page brought it back to me) I just was so fed up with all this femshep/Ashley romance talk. But anyway it doesn't matter.

I have to say I appreciate whatever religious belief it is Ashley has cause she doesn't try and ram it down the players throat and I can't even remember it being mentioned throughout ME3. It is, however, another thing close minded people use as a bullet against her and they try to paint her as a religious nut but that's just plain wrong. (I'm sorry for venting recently but a few days of stuff have built up and I'm fed up with it)

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What yu talkin' 'bout. BP?

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I just posted some simple thoughts in that train wreck of a thread. I should stop reading it though, my IQ drops by the post.

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Again with the S/S stuff.

I was wary of the idea of Bioware doing it for the simple fact that I don't think it would work to drop something like that in the final game of a trilogy. Sexual orientation really should be established in the first game.

That said, I also don't understand how it would fundamentally change who Ashley is as a person if she happened to like women as well as men, yet still had the same scenes and dialouge otherwise. Nor do I think it's somehow inherently against her being religious, since there are all sorts of different religions with different things to say on the matter today, and since I think that over 100 years in the future most mainstream religions will be a lot more forgiving on the subject. And, I'm sorry, but yes, the objections that some people have raised over the past year or so sometimes come off as a tad homophobic. Not always, not with everyone, and perhaps it isn't always intentional when it does happen that way. But, yeah, there have been times when it does seem like there's something deeper at work than fear over Ash's characterizatoin being upset. And that bothers me. It really does. Feel free to disagree if you want, and I'm sorry if you feel I've insulted or offended you, but that's just the way I see it.

Also should note that I wouldn't have cared that much if they did go S/S with Ash, since I always play male Shep, and never would have seen the s/s romance. I think it probably would have been screwed up and revealed in an awkward way, like the way I understand they did things with Kaidan, so I continue to maintain it's better they decided not to go in that direction. But there are worse things. Like being shafted on total content for Ash.

Anyway, this whole thing split the Ash fandome, and it ranks up there with "Ash and racism" in terms of things I'm sick and tired of talking about. Think I'll take a day or two away from the Ash thread to let the s/s talk die down.

Modifié par DWH1982, 13 juillet 2012 - 01:30 .


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I wish people didnt make such a big about characters being a certain sexuality because it will affect the person playing not others.

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Meh. I'm tired of talking about it, too. I probably come off to some as a homophobe, but that's anything but the truth. I don't hate homosexuals based on their sexuality, that's just wrong. Like Danny, I'm simply sick of hearing people pine for some girl-on-girl action with Ash. And half the time the best excuse I hear is, "because it's sexy, or so hot."

She's a character, and was established as straight. Bioware should stay consistent, and I'm glad they did with her at least. I still don't like that they decided to turn Kaidan at the end of the series either. It seems like such a forced thing at the dinner date, but I know why BW did it - to give gay Shepard's more options. IMHO, it's OOC for Ash to be bisexual. That's my opinion. It will always be my opinion now. Does that make me a homophobe?

Anyway… I agree. I wish people would give it a rest with it already though. It's been done to death, "Ashley could be gay/bisexual!" No, she isn't. She's a straight character. Nobody seems to make a big deal about Cortez or Traynor being gay and whine about changing their sexual orientation. I accept those characters and their sexuality, why can't people accept it with Ash? But because Kaidan has now come out of the closet as a bisexual, Ashley must too, right? Geez. I like the way Bioware handled it in ME3. There was a romance for everybody. I'm not homophobic.  I support s/s romances, but I would prefer it if Bioware sat down and considered the sexuality of the character they're writing in future games. Not every character should be bisexual, like in DA2.

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 Hey guys!! Long time no see! I thought I'd stop by and ask if there was a song playing during a reunion scene between Shep and Ash, what would it be? I'm thinking 
 

<3:lol:

Modifié par shar42, 13 juillet 2012 - 02:24 .


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Its good to have you back Shar

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God damn. I always get THE FEELS when I listen to the ME3 soundtrack. :')

That music would fit perfect with a reunion scene, especially the soft piano at the beginning.

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BadExamp1e wrote...

God damn. I always get THE FEELS when I listen to the ME3 soundtrack. :')


I know! It's like I'm right back on the Normandy. B)

@Malcom Thanks! We'll see how long it's for lol

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I wonder what their reunion would be like... ah well that's what fanfic is for. ^^

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Trying to get my sig to work is driving me insane

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shar42 wrote...

I wonder what their reunion would be like... ah well that's what fanfic is for. ^^


Hugging, crying, kissing, and "I love yous"?
All of the above?  Posted Image

I would have liked it, but I don't think BW could have pulled off a reunion scene for everybody though.

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iHorizons wrote...

Trying to get my sig to work is driving me insane


Oh btw. I don't know how to resize sigs lol

I'm no help.

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BadExamp1e wrote...

shar42 wrote...

I wonder what their reunion would be like... ah well that's what fanfic is for. ^^


Hugging, crying, kissing, and "I love yous"?
All of the above?  Posted Image

I would have liked it, but I don't think BW could have pulled off a reunion scene for everybody though.


Lol, Agreed. It would've been an "ending" fiasco all over again. :P

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BadExamp1e wrote...

iHorizons wrote...

Trying to get my sig to work is driving me insane


Oh btw. I don't know how to resize sigs lol

I'm no help.


I dont get why its so difficult ahhhhhhhhhhhh:crying:

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shar42 wrote...

BadExamp1e wrote...

shar42 wrote...

I wonder what their reunion would be like... ah well that's what fanfic is for. ^^


Hugging, crying, kissing, and "I love yous"?
All of the above?  Posted Image

I would have liked it, but I don't think BW could have pulled off a reunion scene for everybody though.


Lol, Agreed. It would've been an "ending" fiasco all over again. :P

More than likely. Posted Image
So far I can only imagine Shepard holding Ash, and whispering that he loves her. She says the same, then they just stand there because my imagination can't think of anything else lol

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shar42 wrote...
 I thought I'd stop by and ask if there was a song playing during a reunion scene between Shep and Ash, what would it be? I'm thinking 
 

Oh that is pretty good! Not quite sad enough for me, though XD

I'm listening to this while writing Officially Unofficial (the Leaving Earth tune, minus the stupid Reaper noises, is one of my favorite things ever):

A Shepley reunion would need some tenderness plus a little snark. You know Ash, she gets a little overwhelmed when confronted with the Big Feelings and retreats a little. =]

- Ren

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FahRENheit06 wrote...

shar42 wrote...
 I thought I'd stop by and ask if there was a song playing during a reunion scene between Shep and Ash, what would it be? I'm thinking 
 

Oh that is pretty good! Not quite sad enough for me, though XD

I'm listening to this while writing Officially Unofficial (the Leaving Earth tune, minus the stupid Reaper noises, is one of my favorite things ever):

A Shepley reunion would need some tenderness plus a little snark. You know Ash, she gets a little overwhelmed when confronted with the Big Feelings and retreats a little. =]

- Ren


Hehe, well I wasn't going for sad silly! But I can see the appeal in that one...it's sweet! :lol: But you'd think that she would be more...what's the word... (normal?) in that situation since it would be almost a 3rd reunion for them.

On a side note, love your fanfic! :happy:

Modifié par shar42, 13 juillet 2012 - 02:55 .


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Hmm.. a reunion song. So many options, but if we're going for sappy then I guess I'll go with Blake Shelton -God Gave Me You

No link, on my phone sorry. =P

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Their reunion will probably happen with Ashley at Shepard's bedside.Which leads me to believe that the soundtrack will be the soft part of "I was lost without you" with the insistant bleep of a heart monitor going. It's been done before, you say!? Well, why can't it be done again, I say!

Wait how long will it take to get back to Earth roughly? Someone told me a week...

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 Yeah Shar is back!!! <3<3<3<3<3

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shar42 wrote...
Hehe, well I wasn't going for sad silly! But I can see the appeal in that one...it's sweet! :lol: But you'd think that she would be more...what's the word... (normal?) in that situation since it would be almost a 3rd reunion for them.

On a side note, love your fanfic! :happy:

Yea, you'd think she'd be used to Shepard rising from the ashes by now. Just have her wave dismissively, "Yea yea yea, we're all impressed with how much you win at Reapers, Shepard."

Thank you! That's very kind!

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Wait how long will it take to get back to Earth roughly? Someone told me a week...

Why would it take that long? The Extended Cut confuses me now, because with Hackett saying "get to the rendezvous point" I'm now under the impression that no one jumped through the relay when they scrambled away from red/blue/green radiation poisoning. Plus Joker is no longer flailing about with the ship disintegrating around him; he's downright leisurely and the Normandy doesn't take a direct hit anymore. If their FTL core was in working condition, I don't see why they wouldn't be as far away as they had to escape, which would be light-minutes rather than light-years.

SPACE PHYSICS MAGIC. :wizard:


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