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[BadExamp1e]

You have a right to be afraid of her, if she hits like a man, has a nasty temper, and because she's a woman you can't fight back if she does start acting up... You can only run or block xD

Ash more than likely has one heck of a powerful swing too.

Tops:

Modifié par BadExamp1e, 14 juillet 2012 - 10:32 .

[Ushanka]

Yeah, Example, you exactly explained this situation. XD

Looks like she has talent for combat.

[Dragon_Claw]

CptData wrote...

But ... I can't see Ash, f!Shep and Miranda doing something like this. And I'm the pervy guy here^^

As a guy who has had female soldier buddys, trust me. when the camoflage comes off, the mushy stuff comes on...

[BadExamp1e]

Well that can apply to your female soldier buddies, but Ashley's isn't the touchy feely type with other women, or Shepard. So sitting in a room in a thong with other naked chicks is something I can't picture.

Modifié par BadExamp1e, 14 juillet 2012 - 10:37 .

[CptData]

BadExamp1e wrote...

Of course the characters wouldn't do that. It's tartish, and so not Ash. That image is purely the imagination of the drawer there, and I'm betting 50 quid that it's a bloke.

Give me another dialogue challenge and I might consider doing something productive today lol

The only sexy stuff I can imagine with Ash being IC is in an AU where Ash has something for fem!Shep. But she definitely won't to a slumber party with Miranda. And of course ... isn't that slumber party something for girls between 16 and 20 or so? Miri is 35, Ash is 28. Doesn't work for both.

That challenge today is Kaidan and Ashley. ^^



Kaidan: You heard of the Commander before?
Ashley: Just what everyone knows from the news: defending a colony nearly single-handedly with a makeshift militia. He got the Star of Terra for that performance.
Kaidan: Seems someone noticed him, otherwise they wouldn't have made him to a Spectre.
Ashley: I don't get all the Spectre stuff. Special agents operating outside the law? Don't get me wrong, but those are usually the people losing it 'cause all the power they have.
Kaidan: They must be useful, otherwise the Council wouldn't keep them.
Ashley: Doesn't mean I have to trust them. However, I do trust Skipper ... err ... the Commander.
Kaidan: "Skipper"?
Ashley: That one comes with a story.
Kaidan: We're both off-duty ... I have time.
Ashley: Not now, Kaidan. I ... need some time to sort out stuff. The events on Eden Prime, the loss of my unit ... it's still lingering in my mind. And I'm still wondering why the Commander accepted me on board.
Kaidan: That's okay, Ashley. Take your time.
Ashley: Thanks. Maybe I'll tell you that story one day ... if we live long enough.
Kaidan: Better get rid of the bad thoughts, Chief, we're going to make it.
Ashley: Dealing with the most dangerous man in the galaxy that also commands the most powerful dreadnaught? I don't know.
Kaidan: The Commander knows what he's doing.
Ashley: I hope so. My last CO died on Eden Prime. I don't wanna lose another CO anytime soon.
Kaidan: Exactly.

[BadExamp1e]

Slumber parties usually happen when girls are between the ages 4 - 15. I'm guessing. Once you pass that age you're just staying over at a friend's house... lol

You'd have more luck getting a FemShep and Tali slumber party than anything.

[Dragon_Claw]

BadExamp1e wrote...

Well that can apply to your female soldier buddies, but Ashley's isn't the touchy feely type with other women, or Shepard. So sitting in a room in a thong with other naked chicks is something I can't picture.

We can agree on the thong part. Im pretty sure that Ashley wears briefs...

[BadExamp1e]

IMO, Ashley isn't the touchy feely type, or the type to endlessly gush over something or someone. It doesn't even matter if you’re close to her or not. For example, even if you're in a romance with her she'll pull away during the memorial cutscene, and does essentially the same thing in the romance scene - backs away.

As for the second part, you saw otherwise. The good old reliable standard black pants lol

Modifié par BadExamp1e, 14 juillet 2012 - 11:02 .

[CptData]

BadExamp1e wrote...

IMO, Ashley isn't the touchy feely type, or the type to endlessly gush over something or someone. It doesn't even matter if you’re close to her or not. For example, even if you're in a romance with her she'll pull away during the memorial cutscene, and does essentially the same thing in the romance scene - backs away.

As for the second part, you saw otherwise. The good old reliable standard black pants lol

Second that on her pants: Ash is not the type for thongs. Guess she values functionality over sexiness, when it comes to underwear (doesn't mean she's not enjoying to have some sexy underwear for Shepard). My girl for example only picks the sexy stuff when she expects to expose it to other eyes than her own, for example when exercising at the gym. There she has to change with other women.


Ash is not that touchy. She is towards Shepard, but only in private. Outside the cabin, she keeps things a bit more professional, 'though the vibes are still there. In my headcanon, Ashley enjoys snuggling as well as she enjoys sex, but that's it. She's not running around naked or just in underwear at her days off, like other women might do. Infact, I can see her doing it only to either seduce Shepard into more - or tease him to keep his attention. That's it. Lazy nakedness is not what Ash does. And even if she has a lazy day, she won't share it with anyone else than Shepard.

My idea on Ash.

And so, I wrote again how I love my perfect woman.

[Aurora313]

Kaidan: Williams.
Ashley: Hey LT. What are you doing up so late?
Kaidan: Working my way through the ends of a migraine.
Ashley: Is there something I can do or get for you?
Kaidan: No, no. Already recieved medication from Chakwas. I'll be fine in an hour or two. But, uh... thanks anyway.
Ashley: You seem to get alot of headaches, LT. Isn't there something the Docs can do?
Kaidan: I've had these on and off since I was a teenager Ash. Its from my implant. There's really nothing that can be done besides managing pain.
Ashley: Why would your implant cause this? I mean Commander Shepard doesn't have a problem with his... aside from stealing all the coffee of a morning...
Kaidan: What was that, Chief?
Ashley: Heh - just a joke sir. But if it's not out of line to ask-?
Kaidan: The Commander has a new model. And no, it's not out of line to ask. Just - compared to other L2s, I got off easy.
Ashley: I heard something about the L2s, something about insanity, mental degeneration?
Kaidan: You have to be insane to be on this ship, Ash. Its practically a boarding requirement. Especially with two Shepards at the lead.
Ashley: *chuckle* Oh, you're not wrong LT.
Kaidan: But what was that crack about the coffee?
Ashley: Every single time I come to the mess for a cup, it's either gone or mostly drunk. Doesn't matter how early I get up - it's freaking gone! How hard is it for one cup! One!
Kaidan: Heh - 'No Coffee - No Workee', Chief?
Ashley: Amen to that, LT. A-freaking-men.

[BadExamp1e]

I couldn't care less what she wears, that's between her and my Shepard lol

Yeah, in private as you said, but only with a romanced Shepard, or her family. But even at that, she's not at all touchy feely compared to Kaidan who comes off as very ‘touchy feely’ and mushy.

In the romance scene, Ash walks in and stands beside Shepard like a partner in every sense of the word. She doesn't say: 'meet me here for some last night squeeze'. She doesn’t walk up and hug him, or hold his hand or anything - he holds hers. And it looks quite desperate too. Shepard was clinging to her hand like he needed her there.

Ashley is definitely not touchy feely with any other marines or anything. Shepard's the only exception, but I suppose with their kind of history, or if their together then it's understandable.

That's why I like the memorial scene despite it being short. It's a very trusting gesture I think. She's never really told anyone about her family before, she always tried to keep it hushed. I noticed that she tries to avoid the topic coming up in ME1 at first. Eventually, she just opens up and spills the beans though. I guess it all comes back to her being somewhat suspicious of people she doesn't know as well.

I don't think Ash would lower herself like that. There's plenty of ways she could tease Shepard without ditching layers. I'm pretty sure whatever Ash is doing is keeping my Shepard interested anyway lol

Modifié par BadExamp1e, 14 juillet 2012 - 11:41 .

[CptData]

@ Aurora
That's the good stuff ^^

BadExamp1e wrote...

I couldn't care less what she wears, that's between her and my Shepard lol

Yeah, in private as you said, but only with a romanced Shepard, or her family. But even at that, she's not at all touchy feely compared to Kaidan who comes off as very ‘touchy feely’ and mushy.

In the romance scene, Ash walks in and stands beside Shepard like a partner in every sense of the word. She doesn't say: 'meet me here for some last night squeeze'. She doesn’t walk up and hug him, or hold his hand or anything - he holds hers. And it looks quite desperate too. Shepard was clinging to her hand like he needed her there.

Well, you know my view on the things: Ashley is Shepard's equal. Not more, not less. That's why I like her character that much, especially in ME1: she didn't hold the same rank as Shepard and was just an ordinary grunt that somehow made it through a Geth ambush as the sole survivor of her entire unit. Shepard was a Spectre, she was just the fresh one on the ship. And still, she had the guts to speak her mind. At the end of ME1, she felt like Shepard's equal.
In ME3, Ashley went through nearly the same sh*t like Shepard had. She even shares the same rank now, she also is a Spectre. In a way, she was catching up and doesn't only feel like an equal to Shepard - she's nearly mirroring him now.

Ashley is definitely not touchy feely with any other marines or anything. Shepard's the only exception, but I suppose with their kind of history, or if their together then it's understandable.

That's for sure. Again I feel it comes with the "equal thing" - and that they're sort of soul mates. I'd go that far and say Shepard is one of very few weaknesses Ashley has - and vice versa. Threatening one, and the other one will make sure your butt replaces your face.

That's why I like the memorial scene despite it being short. It's a very trusting gesture I think. She's never really told anyone about her family before, she always tried to keep it hushed. I noticed that she tries to avoid the topic coming up in ME1 at first. Eventually, she just opens up and spills the beans though. I guess it all comes back to her being somewhat suspicious of people she doesn't know as well.

Aye, so it is. Would you share any details of your family with someone you rarely know? Ash told Shepard all that stuff only 'cause he kinda caught her while she was chatting with her sis.

Heck, I bet Ash & Shep would never have gotten together with than incident. Or not in ME1, at least.

I don't think Ash would lower herself like that. There's plenty of ways she could tease Shepard without ditching layers. I'm pretty sure whatever Ash is doing is keeping my Shepard interest anyway lol

Well, Ash has many ways to tease Shepard, including "only underwear" or "only hoodie day". She simply enjoys teasing Shepard a lot - as long as it stays in the cabin. I'm sure she'll quit some of that stuff if he can't keep his mouth shut and tells Vega or Garrus while being drunk how "awesome his girl is".

Ya know.

On the other hand, Shepard don't talk that much when he's drunk. ^^

[Aurora313]

My Shepard's a happy/laughing drunk, but he doesn't do it often. Gets tipsy? Maybe, sometimes. Fullblown drunk? That happened once, and he had no idea where that rainbow unicorn tatt on his thigh came from and spent his entire first paycheck having it removed...

Its a story he is quite happy to NOT tell Ash... unfortunately for Shepard... he has a sister, whose main hobby is embarrassing the living hell out of him.

Modifié par Aurora313, 14 juillet 2012 - 11:58 .

[BadExamp1e]

Yeah, IMO, Ashley mirrors Shepard more than any other love interest. We've talked about this before, and it's the main and most important reason why my Shepard is with Ash.

With what I've witnessed in ME3, Ashley is definitely my Shepard's weakness. He cares about her too much. "I need you." x3.

True. But it didn't have to come out there and then just because Shepard overheard that call. The subject of family came up, but Ash could have dodged mentioning the family black-listing if she really wanted to, but she didn't. By that stage they've pushed through a lot together, so she just says it. If Shepard found out later from another source it might feel like a bit of a lie on Ash's part that she didn't say anything when it came up.

Personally, mines wouldn't have got together on the job if it wasn't for Virmire and then the sudden suicide mission that follows.

[Aurora313]

If there was a canon LI based on personality and history alone, it would probably be Ash. Liara feels too much like that token alien romance... quite frankly, Asari remind me too much of Orions from the Star Trek series.

Also on a meta level, I'd rather an interest I chose, not one chosen/forced down my throat for me.


Just watching the Ash romance again... its not the actually love making part that makes the scene for me, it's Shepard outright stating to Ash 'I love you'. I honestly get that impression that he's loved her for a very long time now, and at this point in time he's grown completely dependant on her for support. Which isn't to farfetched considering how emotionally f*cked over he is by the end. Not to mention the considerable signs of PTSD, Survivor's guilt and frankly depression, yeah. Sheppy needs Ashley's support at that point.

He tries to brush her off in the beginning, despite his claim otherwise, but in truth he really needs her.

[BadExamp1e]

I agree, it would be Ash for Male Shepard, hands down. Some players don't like her, therefor they can pick wheover they want depending on who's more appealing to them.

I just said this: I won't use the "S" word, but I wouldn't give into someone who was obsessed with me in real life, so why would a grown, confident, adult man who's a Commander do so? Liara talks about reproduction as soon as you get her, that's like talking about kids on the second date. Ashley and Shepard could have already started to build a good relationship before Liara even steps foot on the Normandy. It makes no sense for me to choose Liara in my canon playthrough, none.

Shepard tries to brush her off because she's not being real or serious. It's all an act of course, but Ash is only doing it for him. It's likely an attempt to get him to take a break. But I believe Ash needs him in that moment as much as Shepard needs her.

Modifié par BadExamp1e, 14 juillet 2012 - 12:31 .

[Aurora313]

Yeah, also - inverse, my Shepards - at leats my fem!Shep doesn't like Asari. The fact that Liara's trying to get into M!Shep's pants while he's trying to figure out his and Ash's relationship doesn't fly with her... like, at all. And leads to some fun confrontations that I honestly can't wait to write.

Yes. Agreed. It was an act. They both need each other. End of the world is a good a time as any to tell a partner how you really feel about them... I just wish we could have gotten the date and Ashley sooner in game... not half-way through...

Modifié par Aurora313, 14 juillet 2012 - 12:38 .

[CptData]

Well, it's Liara's awkward way to get Shepard hooked. However ... I dunno. I don't think I would date a girl again that talks about reproduction right after the first or second date. It's creepy and would take away that decision from me.

Basically all Shepard knows about Liara is that she's an Asari, daughter of Benezia, she's an expert of Protheans - and she is quite straight forward, when it comes to reproduction. Maybe it's not meant that way, maybe she wants to ensure Shepard doesn't fear sexual encounters with her because she CAN'T get pregnant as long as she doesn't want to. But then - worst interpretation - it sounds as if Liara wants a sex-driven relationship with Shepard.
Which feels a tad OOC for social awkward Liara.

--

Ash on the other hand never brought up any "let's have kids" talk. Shepard has plenty of opportunities to get in touch with her: poetry, religion, her family. Which is in my eyes much more than you have with Liara.

Ah heck with it: I love Ash since she's my dream type - appearance and character.
That's why I picked her as LI for my Shepard.


@Aurora: Ashley needs Shepard as much as he needs her. Somehow the word "soul mates" doesn't really describe their relationship, it's far more multi-layered. Guess it's just a "perfect love", 'though something like this is nearly impossible to get. It's kinda interesting only the original romances from ME1 feel like "perfect love", while the others feel less unique. No offense towards other romances 'though.

Modifié par CptData, 14 juillet 2012 - 12:47 .

[BadExamp1e]

Liara's not trying to get in FemShep's pants? I figured if both Shepard siblings where on the Normandy Liara would go for the woman since Liara's species are essentially all women, and it might be abit more familiar and comfortable. But if you're FemShep hates Asari, it's probably for best if she not try then.

Yeah, when Ash leans against the door - her face has got a bit of gloomy need wrote on it. Hell, Shepard was ready to give Ashley a big speech that probably would have went on for another paragraph if she hadn't stopped him. I think in that moment, as Shepard watches Ash back up against the fishtank (for whatever reason) he realized that he's never actually told her that he loves her. And that this is there last night together, so his brain basically went: "No, I do need to say something. Why did I not say this before?"

[Aurora313]

BadExamp1e wrote...

Liara's not trying to get in FemShep's pants? I figured if both Shepard siblings where on the Normandy Liara would go for the woman since Liara's species are essentially all women, and it might be abit more familiar and comfortable. But if you're FemShep hates Asari, it's probably for best if she not try then.

*zip*

Nope. In the DE canon, My Femshep didn't use the beacon for one. Two, she's straight. Three, she has a intense... I can't call it hatred... discomfort maybe? most with Asari. She dismisses them as pretenious with an arrogant sense of self-entitlement. In fact, thats how she see Liara's attraction to Shepard. Kat believes that Liara thinks she's 'entitled' to Shepard's affections because she's the only one capable of helping him understand the beacons.

When Liara tries to be friendly with Kat - Kat pretty much tells her to eff off, reasoning that Liara's only trying to get closer to Shepard through her. (Its her own screwd-up sisterly way of looking out for him)

My M!Shepard is alright with Liara, but her forwardness makes him uncomfortable especially since he's the type to keep his cards close to his vest. With an EB childhood, it's just been so engrained into him - both of them actually - that if someone is that polite and open with him, then they've got an ulterior motive that's usually all manner of unpleasant.

Modifié par Aurora313, 14 juillet 2012 - 01:04 .

[Arivael]

Ashley: Hey LT. I noticed you have been spending a lot of time with Doctor T’Soni lately.
Kaidan: Yes we’ve been working on our biotics together, I must admit I was surprised how good she was with them but then again the Asari are natural biotics and she’s had just over a century to practice.
Ashley: So that’s it then just biotic practice?
Kaidan: Yes why?
Ashley: Oh well scuttlebutt is that the two of you were working on finding “other” uses for mass effect fields.
Kaidan: Williams I know you have never served on a ship before now but I would have thought you had enough sense to know not to pay any attention to unfounded gossip, especially about you superiors. *Sighs* why is it that we can’t have a beautiful, women on-board without people assuming that every man that goes near her is interested in that.
Ashley: So you think she’s beautiful then?
Kaidan: You see out of all that the thing you pick up on is that, we do you care anyway I though you only had eyes for the Commander and his how did you say it “perfectly fine ass”.
Ashley: How… How do you know about that?
Kaidan: Well you did have that conversation down in the cargo bay not ten feet from Wrex and it turns out he is a bit of a gossip.
Ashley: And here I was just starting to like that overgrown lizard.

[DWH1982]

Does Liara really start talking about reproduction on her own in ME1? Or is it something you have to ask about?

I just want to be fair to the character here... If you have to ask her, complaining about it is like complaining about Kaidan "whining" about his past, even though he only does so when you ask him about it.

The other thing to keep in mind is that the asari likely have different social norms, and Liara hasn't spent much time around humans.

That said, on the subject itself: Ash is definately Shepard's equal, which is somthing that attracted me to her character. I like Kaidan, but at times, she felt to me like she was a higher rank than him, because it felt more like she was willing to offer Shepard advice or give her opinion when he was doing something potentially bone headed. During my first playthrough, there were several times where I had to remind myself that, "oh yeah, Kaidan actually outranks Ash."

Sometimes I wonder what would happen if Ash were to be promoted to a rank above Shepard? Edwin Shepard would be okay with it, but I could see Ash teasing him about it a bit in private.

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Modifié par giftfish, 14 juillet 2012 - 02:28 .

[BP93]

Arivael wrote...

Ashley: Hey LT. I noticed you have been spending a lot of time with Doctor T’Soni lately.
Kaidan: Yes we’ve been working on our biotics together, I must admit I was surprised how good she was with them but then again the Asari are natural biotics and she’s had just over a century to practice.
Ashley: So that’s it then just biotic practice?
Kaidan: Yes why?
Ashley: Oh well scuttlebutt is that the two of you were working on finding “other” uses for mass effect fields.
Kaidan: Williams I know you have never served on a ship before now but I would have thought you had enough sense to know not to pay any attention to unfounded gossip, especially about you superiors. *Sighs* why is it that we can’t have a beautiful, women on-board without people assuming that every man that goes near her is interested in that.
Ashley: So you think she’s beautiful then?
Kaidan: You see out of all that the thing you pick up on is that, we do you care anyway I though you only had eyes for the Commander and his how did you say it “perfectly fine ass”.
Ashley: How… How do you know about that?
Kaidan: Well you did have that conversation down in the cargo bay not ten feet from Wrex and it turns out he is a bit of a gossip.
Ashley: And here I was just starting to like that overgrown lizard.

Poor Wrex, he just wants a room with a window.

IS THAT TOO MUCH TO ASK?

[BP93]

Ash is pouring herself a cup of coffee when Kaidan approaches

Kaidan: Chief, you're up early.
Ash: Heh...yeah, didn't get much sleep. You're up early too, what's up?
Kaidan: I'm always an early riser. I kind of like the quiet in the morning, you know?
Ash: No. Because if I had any say in the matter, I'd sleep in every morning.
Kaidan: *chuckles* I take it you're not a fan of the Commander's "reveille"?
Ash: Hell no!
Kaidan: Awww, not even if it were authentic? Like back in the old days?
Ash: If it were authentic, rank be damned, I'd tell him right where he could shove that trumpet. The ship-wide alarm over the intercom is enough as it is.
Kaidan: (muffled laugh) I'll be sure to tell him that.
Ash: I'll pay you good money not to, LT.
Kaidan: Is that bribery I hear, Chief?
Ash: No sir.
Shepard: (walking out of the Capt. quarters, rubbing his eyes) Who's bribing who?
Ash: No one, sir.

Shepard shoots a look at Kaidan for reassurance

Kaidan: Just talking. Chief here thinks someone's bribing the Council is all.
Shepard: Is that right? Certainly would explain a lot, wouldn't it?
Ash: (shooting a devious look at Kaidan) Exactly my point. That Turian Councilor's pockets looked awfully full... if you know what I mean.
Shepard: *smirks* And here I thought it was just because he was full of hot air.
Ash: Well, that too.
Kaidan: You know, you two are always so quick to judge. For all we know, he's probably a stand-up guy...
Ash: I think you oughta go back to bed, LT. 'Cause it doesn't seem like you're quite fully awake yet. *chuckles*
Shepard: (turns around from the counter) Did you just give your Lieutenant an order?
Kaidan: Hah, easy Commander.
Ash: (holds cup up to her mouth) Heart of gold.
Shepard: I was joking...
Kaidan: Well, no offense Shepard, but it's kind of hard to tell. You're like an AI or something, you only have one tone of voice.
Ash: Angry, pissed off, nothing is ever good enough... that sort of demeanor?
Shepard: You know I was *this* close to forgiving you for getting too close to that beacon, too...
Kaidan: *chuckles* That was a little low, don't you think?
Ash: Sorry, Skipper.

Modifié par BP93, 14 juillet 2012 - 03:50 .